 My name is Ketting, I help lawyers help people and on my own time I make video games. Cool. What is the theme of this game jam? The theme of this game jam is legal aid and social justice. It is largely assistance that organizations will give to people when they cannot afford to hire their own lawyers or other legal representation. Now why this theme? Why not, you know, two buttons or the theme of growing? Why this one in particular? Since the games are interesting no matter what we may as well try to add a little bit of social value in there with them. Now, what kind of social value are you hoping to get out of some of the entries? So I'm largely thinking of in three areas. Some games maybe will directly help people learn about ways that they can solve their problems that they might not have known otherwise. Other games maybe will help lawyers learn how to do their jobs better or more efficiently. And maybe a third type of game that could come out would be a game that would educate the public about some of these issues that people face every day that they might not otherwise be aware of. Interesting. Now what got you interested in helping people understand the law? So part of this obviously is my job. I do that every day. But also my family has had a history of working in social areas. And growing up I've always enjoyed explaining things and teaching people. So it sort of felt like a natural meshing of things I like and things that have sort of been influential on me growing up. So now I understand how you got into legal aid and teaching people about the law. What got you into video games? I've always grown up with video games and I've always had the idea that I think these games are good but I think they all have some flaws. In games it's easy to say something's bad but if you want to make changes happen you have to do them yourself. The best way to make games that I want to play is to make them myself and show that it's possible. Nice. And so it sounds like this game jam is just kind of a natural progression from your work as well as your personal hobbies. Exactly. It's been nice that this is the first time I think it's really sort of naturally flowed together. I've tried to do some other small things in the past but this has just sort of felt right and it seems to be going really well right now. So what is your ultimate goal with this game jam? So I sort of have two possible outcomes that I want. First off is if a good game that gets support after this, if at the end of this game jam there's a project which looks good enough to get continued support, then I count this as an unmitigated success because the cost of normally developing a game compared to the cost of this game jam is just one good game is all it takes to make this worth it. The other thing I think would be extremely valuable is that if we can get game developers and legal advocates talking to each other, that will open up a lot of opportunities to create helpful games in the future which I think begin a single game more than justifies everything we're doing here. Cool. Can you tell me about how this event was orchestrated? It's a lot of people in the shadows that don't probably get enough credit. I asked lots of people called in favors and everyone has been extremely supportive so we have about half dozen people on site that are making this happen but offsite there must be dozens and dozens of people that have all promoted this event, given advice, helped find good deals and find locations. It's been a huge group effort to make this happen. Who are some of the major players in the group effort? Obviously I have to thank my boss Brian Rowe who is also here helping out. His boss, Sue Entriman, has been big help and also decided to show up. She has participated in the jam which is exciting because she has never been to a game jam before. At the same time the local Seattle indie community has been huge. They have not only shown up but they have helped promote it and helped give me ideas. They have run all the game jams in the past to build this event off the top of. There has also been the local businesses like Unity, the IGDA foundation, Oculus, many more I probably can't remember at the moment. I thought I would just either give this money or material support or just general help and promotion. So it has sort of been everyone helping. Cool. Very cool. It sounds definitely like a group effort. Can you tell me about the venue that you are doing this game jam in? Perhaps the biggest sponsor, the living computer museum is this. Paul Allen of the foundation has put together this amazing museum which goes back like 50 years of computer histories and working machines. So you can go, I can use every machine I have gone up on just upstairs here and machines from before. I was born before most of the people I hang out with were born all functioning in this building. And now just recently they opened up this new wing, this gallery where we are hosting this event. It has got a bunch of really cool exhibits on video games, of course personal interests but also self-driving cars and VR and all these things. So they have been a huge support. They have been extremely helpful in hosting this event and others within the community. So they cannot be thanked enough. Awesome. How did this game jam come to take place in this venue? So due to some unforeseen issues we had, our previous venue had to change and so we were sort of desperate. We were knocking on a lot of doors and the living computer museum was extremely helpful. They just said, well you can just do it here for free and that was pretty astonishing given the quality of this venue. So we just immediately signed up and they just ran us through the paperwork and we got situated and got onto the road immediately, which was really astonishing. Awesome. Great, cool. Is there anything else you want to add about this event or hosting it or anything like that? I just want to thank all of us. And this into our sponsor is honestly the biggest, the people that really make this possible all of the attendees because they are the ones that are putting all the hard work. We put in some hard work ahead of time but they are going to spend 48 hours just trying their hardest to make something that's honestly never been made before. So those are the people that I believe this event is all about. These are the people that you should be looking up to. These are the true heroes. Awesome. Cool. Thank you, Kit. Thank you.