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This is Jeremy cowell Dad's demand DNA is like DNA test I guess copyright disclaimer under section 107 of the copyright act 1976 Allowance is made for fair use for purposes such as criticism comment news reporting teaching scholarship and research Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing Non-profit educational or personal use tips the balance in favor of fair use No copyright infringement intended all rights belong to their respective owners Talk to me Welcome to a very special episode of the Jeremy car show now each of the stories on today's show revolve around dad's demanding DNA test First up today is David who's here to find out if he's the father to ex-partner Kelly's to yes to youngest kids now since Sprinting with David Kelly's got back with ex-boyfriend Anthony and David firmly believes that he could indeed be the biological father He is here for answers big day for this guy David is on the Jeremy car show give him a round of excited or terrified welcome to the show I'm gonna lie David. Do you want to hope that you're not this? That is her ex she with her other partner or whatever. You don't want to be here. You don't want this Let's do what we always do and lay out a few Details so people here in our home understand Kelly your ex. How long were you with her for? Proxley five years on off Three with her to the youngest to We're doing DNA tests today. You say I'm coming to find out paternity of my two youngest kids And I have doubts why because of um, she's actually said in arguments. They're not mine Emily she's into a woman be gone for a jugular Well, you tell a man these ain't no kids anyway in the middle of our argument like what are you? What are you expecting from that? What do you? What do you what response do you really want from that because it could go a multitude of ways What you mean is a monkey. I could like you know I'm saying it could be a domestic if you that type of man It could be you know I'm saying it could be a lot of things could happen at that junction You got that's a spooky woman that don't care about a lot of things in life when she say that type of stuff November and days Taylor He's five months going on six. She has actually told you yeah during an argument these kids aren't yours Yeah, she's absolutely why you want to come and do a DNA test Let's talk about the break because I said in introduction since the split which was a month ago. Yeah, prox. She's now back with Were you aware of this guy? Yeah, I was because she she's done it before and I forgave her twice. She's twice You're an idiot it before yeah with him. I don't know for a hundred percent, but What happens when you don't set boundaries in a relationship? I have a feeling yeah with DNA tested Anthony as well. He was by all a care insecure in your relationship So insecure when you insecure in your relationship. You don't set boundaries because you scared the person. I'm going to leave you Example is Kelly your ex his first love. Yeah, they suddenly get together literally a number of days after you're apart She's cheated before she's admitted that you might not be the father that would make you think maybe answering is part of it He moved in is he there with no, yeah, he knows not to dare to come near me in fact somebody was telling me earlier that the Who are you I'm sorry, what do you mean? He knows not to dare not to come near you. He came near your girl Twice three times He put children in a while you were dating like who are you nobody them no offense But like that line didn't resonate it didn't hit it wasn't giving what it was supposed to give That the situation isn't great. You've got a shared tendency. Yeah Going and yeah, how's it affecting the kids this break up? Well, Emily keeps saying Emily's actually said to me I asked her why she was crying and she goes up because your mommy keep arguing and then you're going and You know you told my team this morning. I've always tried to do right by my kids I'm a brilliant dad and the big shock for you with this story Which is relevant to the audience is it was only a month ago? I think or literally a few months ago two three You were gonna settle down you were gonna buy an engagement ring and suddenly she goes It's over and moves. Well, yeah, as soon as it gets tough. She runs What six months to two years with auntie don't you do the same? What sort of mother is she? When be honest look at be honest look at me I do most of the stuff you tell my team. She's lazy. Yeah, she is very lazy When I'm not there. Yeah, she'll do what she has to do But when I'm there she asked me to put the dinner on given the dinner put them to bed Firstly all of it and like when I'll go out the front and have a fag and that she goes I am when you finish that can you take chain trailer's bum? Well, God, you might as well try to go to the court system and get your kids for yourself What is her point? What is her existence? Like what was the point? You know I'm saying I'm a single father got my daughter do all of that without the hassle of a bum baby mama, so it's like just get rid of her You could do all that by yourself And you know she could easily just do that Do you want it do you have feelings for this woman? She's with this guy because that opens I guess the floodgates in your mind Which is were they together before and was was he if they are your kids there? She is with the new love of her life Anthony If these kids are yours what happens what do you want? I just want him to back off and Sort his own life out and stop interfering with mine and you want to you want to be their dad What if she is the lie you purport that she might be and he turns out to be the father of one or both of these children? It'll break my heart because I adore him a lot because like I just I say to little Taylor He's only five so I say can daddy have a kiss and that and he what was his head to try and give me a kiss And he lays on my shard and gives me a cuddle massive day for you. Yeah, all right This is your ex Kelly together five years. She split a month ago. She's already with the first love of her life It's a good guy man. I can sell my Kelly I Can tell why Kelly walks all over him because he's she's given the opportunity every day You got to have that edge to you know, man. Well, you're a good guy. You got to be able to know. I'm sorry You got Anthony DNA doubts and the two youngest Kelly's on the Jeremy Cal show that way I'm all right. That's so great. It didn't take you long to get back with Anthony. Did it? No. What no So we're seeing him before you split out with him No, but why did you tell him that he wasn't the father of both of these kids in the middle of it? I said it in anger. Oh, that was intelligent. Wasn't it? Because he was nasty to me He might well have been nasty to you but telling him that he's not the father of the two youngest kids that apparently he Does everything for cuz you're lazy. That's his words not mine. That's not very nice. Is it no Well, you're very quiet for somebody who's very goby backstage talk to each other. I'm not a liar I did plenty for my kids. You put your car before me, right? Okay, you're not asking names Right, who's time for me to each other. I'm not a liar. I did plenty for my kids You put your words not mine Okay, you call me nasty name for my kids. You put your car before me. So you put your car listen For all the ladies in here My man put his whole life on hold had children with you moved in with you All he has left is his car. That's it. Let the man have his car Whenever he want to do something with that car think about what you're doing when you stop him You're taking his peace his quiet time his surrender. That's like a man cave Like let the man have his car God Lee. You got every other piece of it Right, okay, you call me nasty names right who starts it. Hey who starts it you do Yes, sometimes sometimes I only get angry back because you start the start the argument Yes, so do you you tell my team? He was a controlling bully, which is why I finished it and the man He was more interested in his car. There he is but um When you've got an MOT and touch your car when it's due to run out What are you supposed to do get the let the council take it away? I've absolutely no idea, but there's a bigger issue here. Uh, you are saying you're saying that that that he was not very nice No Jeremy said I have no idea. I get too much money to be worried about that But let's focus on the real issues here. That's tough. Why don't you keep having kids with him then? Yeah, they weren't planned They weren't planned. No So you were with a man who you didn't like who was a controlling bully who was more interested in his car Yet you kept having kids with the man who was sort of father is he because he says he was a brilliant dad He said he did everything and you didn't do anything. I did plenty for my kids Yeah, when I'm not there and you have done stuff while I was there But you know nine times out of 10 you asked me today. There are too many people. No any chance. He ain't the dad No, he's the dad 100% 1,000% Why say because you're nasty to me I mean, I'm just asking stuck in the middle Hey, what do you try to meet you try to meet his energy? Is that what you're saying with Anthony quite quickly kelly? He's an ex from school But I mean, how did you get together with him in a number of days after you'd finished after five years with I was friends with him. It's not what on facebook. Yeah on facebook And she's deleted me on facebook. I don't understand that So you you you had contact why am I doing that you had contact with See man, that's why it's tough man. This is the reason why you why you really can't if your girl Doesn't have enough respect for you to cut off her guy friends Then don't be with her. I'm gonna be real with you. Oh, I've got guy friends. He's just a friend No, he's not because at any moment you can call that man and be like a let's Have intercourse and he gonna say yes 100% He's just waiting men play the long game. We will wait. We will pretend to be your best friend And as soon as that man gets the act is enough. Oh come cry on my come cry on my shoulder Put your head in my lap Oh god, don't do it If your girl got male best friends, they want her And she knows it. She's back pocketed them for a rainy day And I'm I'm not even even cabing to you. I'm being dead. I'm so serious Don't be that person It's me on facebook and then when it went wrong with david you turned to antony. Yeah, he was a friend as a friend Yeah, but now friends more every time those two end up talking they end up getting back with each other You are in a relationship with antony now. Yes, and how's that been? How's that good? He makes me happy. He works. You told my team he works. He's a better dad than he'll ever be I ate that phrase. Is that true? Yeah, he is. How can he be? You just said he was a good dad this one He can be a good dad. He just said that one was better than him. He just puts his car first Does he give you any money for the kids? He gives me money to get nappies in that but he wants the money back What do you mean he wants the money back? Not not always straight away He lends you money to buy a napkin Obviously, it's there your kid lends you money to buy a napkin Obviously, it's there your kids. You can't see here's the thing You can't get the money back. You have to provide for your kids. Yeah. Yeah, I know that does antony provide He lends me money There's a lot of lending going on So we're going to prove that he is indeed the father of both of your kids You're going to say to him. I'm happy with antony. We need to sort this out for the sake of the kids Any doubt in your mind at all 100% you have doubts you haven't Antony have you that's coming next plus for the break talking to david and kelly here For double dna on your two youngest kids you came a david and you said look I was with this woman I was planning to marry her right then there's an argument in the argument She says you're not the kid's father then with a number of days of us splitting despite the fact that I was happy She's back with the love of her life antony. They were always on facebook or whatever you came out and said no No, hold on a minute. He's horrible to me nasty names uncaring despite the fact. He says I do nothing He doesn't do anything. He doesn't provide for these kids Yet another example in modern day britain of two people who maybe or maybe not created three lies and didn't stop and think about the Consequences. This is the new love of your life. If an antony's on the jeremy car show Kids you don't support her and you don't call her no give it six months or two years No, she will do nothing like that. I'll waste your time. You're going to waste the space You're going to waste the space if you're low because I don't give a f**k to you For the end of the day you don't give a f**k about your kids Daddy They both look like they eat slim gems and drink mountain drink mountain dew I play video games No offense. I mean, especially Especially buddy I'm here to support kelly and the kids No, at the end of the day, you had you pay nothing for them. All you do is think about your car At the end of the day, if you've got kids you do one of the car you support your family and your kids Yeah, I do Nice, uh, welcome to the show, uh, so please don't rub her leg like that. Um, so You uh, so you um Anthony, how long did you know kelly? I mean were you friends for quite a while? We've known each other since we were 14 15. Did you have a relationship at all with her? Yeah, when we were in school and we've got back a number of times But we're 10 times stronger now than we've ever been When she was going through the problems with david you were A friend. Yeah, you weren't sleeping with her. Yeah, right, whatever. He thinks you were when you were on breaks Did you ever david don't sit up here and be like that now? You let her be her his friend You let them be friends even knowing their history like that's Break up with him and sleep with him. Is there any chance in your mind that these kids could be yours? No, none of them are mine. You came out here and you gave it quite large that he's a bad dad What do you mean by that? He doesn't support his kids. You've only been there I gave kelly a 240 quid and leaving all my stuff behind for the kids to use. Yeah, they can't do what You don't support your kids kelly asked money for you from you to buy the kids stuff You want it back so you can pay your road tax in your car get rid of your car and support your kids Quite right. They're more important than anything else Yeah, I had kids if any of the kids that is true, but you you kind of need a car Son of Jasper man for the file I didn't know you listen because you Some of you At the end of the day if I had kids I'll get rid of everything I'll get rid of my car I have a job at the end of the day and I'm here and I had a job and I'm on the course at the moment You're a waste of space You don't like the fact that that he I mean naturally because you're with her now You don't like the fact that he insults her but you told my team that he insults her and swears that are in front of His own children. Yeah, he goes our fat Was there a job? Um, I have done in front of your own kids. No, they've been upstairs still not great Is it but you rattle with her in front of the kids? That's not good for any of the yeah I try and calm the matter down. You're not there. So just keep your butt out No, I won't at the end of the day. You don't insult anyone. You don't get aggressive. Yeah, you don't watch when you come out Right and start having a go at me then a Backed on your word, ain't ya. How have I you're a waste of space. You don't support the kids Yeah, nasty you have a serious attitude problem. Yeah, I've got angle issues Yeah, I'm probably denying to get on you yet. Bring it on. Like I've said at the end of the day You don't hit waltz when you've got kids in the house. You don't call her. Yeah, it's better than hitting waltz than her, isn't it? You wouldn't dare touch her at the end of the day. Are you gonna get your in then? I I'm not I wouldn't touch you because I couldn't hear Anyway, I don't trust you. I don't trust you. Yeah, I don't like your eye for me space Bro's all verbal like y'all said in the chat. He's only talking because security here. I hear it We can all hear it right now Anybody ain't tough About two two and a half months into the relationship I just started to tell you over Kelly's more because they do Emily was actually teething Somebody in the chat said is this potter paper that's that down that Y'all doing good in the chat with the jokes. Hey, listen Um, to give that last week y'all be willing to come out the following morning to get in my car And I had two large X's carved in my driver and my passenger which I didn't do Which is rubbish. I I did a little tiny scrap because the key was blunt on the wing And I didn't do no X's on the car So you did a little bit and your key was blunt because you've admitted to it already And then once somebody else came down the road decided to the rest of it. Yeah You're a liar, aren't you? No. Yeah, you are you can't handle the fact that she's moved on I didn't do no, I don't know whether he's definitely a bitter ex 100% dad or a bad dad But actually he strikes me as quite sensible and quite balanced and I call like the fact that he's out here Like that saying I don't want my wife or my girlfriend being called this that and the other I said it before and I say again two kids. Do you have any doubt that they're his? No, they're here. It's 110% But you are there now you're with her your protection your woman you're gonna help bring those kids up How's this gonna work then? How's it gonna work? Um, well, I told him I don't want any of the house for two guys But here's the thing. There are you two beautiful kids and I hope I you know, I don't know But I hope you're right. I hope David is their dad But how is this going to work because they do not look David's kids Need all of this rubbish. No, you don't want him near the house My friend said he can she can pick him up from her house But she makes life a lot more difficult than what it actually can be How'd you work that out? Well, how do I know how she's doing everything for your kids and you do jack She asks for money and you want it back straight Eyes there mate. I want to walk. You want to clean your eyes? No, why do I? Why do I? Like I said, if I had kids, I would get rid of everything just as important Have you done enough for your kids David? Yeah, I've done an awful lot How sure are you that they're the you are the father of those two that are on the screen? Well, 90% and 10% are not Kelly, you're 100% Yeah Anthony, you're 100% it's true there's all important DNA results I think yet again another example of people who seem to not think about the consequences. I've said it before Haven't you got kids from a previous relationship three namely that you don't see? Uh, I do see them. How old are you? Uh, 20 Well, I suggest you go and get a job in 29. You got five kids. He out here just He's just going crazy. He just You got to wrap it up my boy Pay for if these two are yours come out with some ridiculous comment Which is what was your comment? I've got a full-time job with power time money Maybe you need to get off your butt spend less time with your car and concentrate on providing The DNA test results show that the biological father of Kelly's two youngest children is David, of course. Yeah, she was right I still want the paper I'd be saying sorry to her to start with sorry It's all because two seconds late. You're chucked that wall back in her face. No Shake it You haven't done enough so you can stop telling me the kids are not mine to be fair Got a balance that she told him in an argument. He wasn't that's why I got like Like y'all got into an argument. You told me the kids are not mine. That's automatically doubting my mind I wonder you what did you expect? Yeah? I want a paternity test off rip Oh, I was just sitting under the anger. Why are you holding it against me because you said it? You said it period point blank Now I now I don't believe that they're mine I love them, but now there's doubt and I don't want no doubt. Give me over test, please I'm right here You've got it. You've got it. You've got to understand the answer And if you didn't have me to go on then then we wouldn't be having this argument A lot of people say things in an argument that they don't mean it shouldn't should you know I agree with that Kelly you were vindicated They're his what's important presumably now is that all the anger and all the animosity goes to one side You're in a new relationship. That's your business. He's moving on with his life. They those two beautiful kids Deserve a relationship with their mother and their father. We will work with you on this. We do it every single day But it's give and take right It's no point in people going he's not coming it You can't base seeing kids on whether you're having a good day or you're having a bad day Whether you don't like her fellow or you don't like his lifestyle That's what I'd be trying to tell my big mama You don't like me because I tell you the truth about yourself So you don't call your child or nothing like so what you all right? Hey Hey We good You should be the most important as they are Can we sit down in a room? We try and work out a plan We'll find a place that's convenient. We'll set up about the minute you don't turn up because you're too busy doing your car Right, she's every right to say you'll never see him again the minute you change your plan because You don't like him you're angry or whatever I won't stop my kids from staying there for good. Good. These kids make sure you keep to that word then You you guys for an argument you guys have created lives and you have to accept as many people do in this country The ones you do there you have a moral responsibility for the rest of your lives Now get off this stage in separate directions sit down with the team I'll work out a plan that will benefit not you two and your egos, but those kids come prende you go that way You took her that way give him a round of applause. We're done. Thank you very much Right the next guest today. Colin is here to find out he's the father to his ex's daughter He says that although he knew his ex jade was still in a relationship when they got together She always told him she wasn't sleeping with her ex him my bad. I don't know why I keep muting it um I said there's two guests The max is two that we've ever had I said it looks like this one can fit three though on this episode How many times have we heard that one when she fell pregnant? Colin says he believed the baby was his until that is jade confessed that her ex could also be the daddy says The doubts have destroyed their relationship and today wants the truth before he can decide if they have any future What's server big day for collin on the show guys could death for you that wasn't it? Right now this is a I don't know it's complicated or not Jade your ex you were together two years you split just two weeks ago. We're doing a dna on hailey. How old's the baby 14 months um You met quite a while ago. Yeah first your friends Then you start having sex Pardon. Yeah Do you know she's with a bloke at that point? Yeah that so what you're doing sleeping with somebody else's bird then? I don't know. Yeah, I know it was wrong here, but Duggin You know But she told you She wasn't sleeping with him. She was trying to get out of it. It was all over and she fell in love with you Yeah, so why are you here? I'm feeling like when I'm talking sometimes. I'm I'm slight toxic Because I'm talking about some That's her problem. Now he is like why would I say that that's toxic What's the problem start speaking well when she fell pregnant? She was still sleeping when I'm a so how'd you find that out? She had wrote down the dates on a piece of paper Like to try and figure out trying to help herself. Is it not true that you found her darry and she right She'd written down the dates and the time so when she'd slept with both of you No, it was the dates to try and figure out like see if she could figure out herself And at that point you naively didn't think that she was sleeping with her ex Then you find that piece of paper. What happens? I asked her about it and she had made it to me How did that make you feel Where is he from Scotland you said I was heartbroken, but I stuck by her And what's a credit to this man? You've paid for this child. You bought this child clothes. You've bonded with this child You've even sold personal items. So you've had more money to provide. Okay. What would it mean today if it is? True Haley is yours. Oh What if she's not The relationship finished two weeks ago because of this pressure this pressure that won't go. That's what this is about Get up that kid Good for you, mate. I can see it in your eyes that you do love this kid and I know you've stepped up to a degree So change everything about your life when you see this child What I was doing the introduction I sort of implied Okay, y'all let me know if y'all think off the looks of the kid To change everything about your life when you see this child Is here is he not the father? All right, I gotta look at him again when I was doing the introduction I sort of implied that you I mean you're not together, but is there still a future Maybe look like her 100% But it depends on this. Let me see. Well, I'd like to just get this at the base first there This is think your fail is yours you and jade and haley can be a family But if haley's not yours, that's that's not like to try budget Okay, let's get her out jade's on the show guys the risk of you not liking me from the moment you walk out What you're doing lying to him about your ex and sleeping with two blokes at the same time love Sorry, no, but you know if you were a bloke everybody would be going oh, that's disgusting. That's wrong You did that absolutely what you don't have an unprotected sex. Let me read you a comment a statement from andy and is your ex. Yeah During my relationship jade cheated on me with collin. I'm only 50% sure that jade's daughter is mine And she slept with collin around the time she fell pregnant Collin is not the dad that i'm certain her daughter is mine. Whilst I was with jade I raised her eldest daughter as my own I've not wanted to bond with this baby before she has the dna test because it was heartbreaking for me to stop Seeing jade's eldest child when we broke up I've never wanted to get attached to another one of her kids and have to lose that bond again If collin is not her dad And I want to be involved and have regular access might I just say jade without you thinking i'm the devil Yeah, I can't really tell Kind of look like him though Lincolnne that my darling is the reality of your actions not him being heartbroken or this one being upset But kids who have bonded with no, yeah, that's his kid Well, I would say it'll look like him Oaks who might end up being their fathers. Yeah, we lied to it one night now. What was that? I'm breaking up my oldest child You also slept with excuse me What did she just say? This one being upset, but kids who have bonded with blokes who might not end up being their fathers Yeah, we lied to it one night now. What was that? I'm breaking up my oldest child You also slept with two blokes and lied to him Yeah, I know that Yeah, I know that To each other you like affronted that I should say that to you Talk to her Oh god, I didn't know what to say here. She's helped all before Why just she looked like the neighborhood bicycle It's about two weeks ago Because about the big massive argument Respectfully About this No, that's just I don't think if this baby is his it can make everything right I don't know I don't know She wants it to be right Yeah Cute kid What's he been like before he went and argued? What sort of father is he? He's a brilliant dad He's a completely brilliant He couldn't ask for a better dad So everything is on this. This could be the perfect family relationship that works All disaster in effect, yeah? Genuinely don't know the results. God, it's turning into that sort of morning So there's all important DNA results, please Dang, this is quick. What are you doing? Slow down I'm only paid to read it and I'm being completely straight, okay? I think he looked like her. I think it is. He's the father Jermy The DNA test results show that Colin It's your baby Yeah, you look like him Told y'all my DNA detector From eyesight is what I have to say Two for two Do you know what? I gotta tell you this. Sit down pal I look into your eyes and I was listening talking to you You're gonna be a great dad if you're not a great one already You might be a team, but I could tell straight away and you saw that, didn't you? Good dude And you've both said throughout your notes to us that you're both really good parents and that says a lot to me That's all I want to know. Go look after that kid. Go together. Stop listening to everybody else Put the past behind you. Draw a line and have a life. All right? It looked like him right here. It looked right here Like right in here All of that looked like him. Yeah, give him a round of applause Today Liam is desperate to find out if he's the father to ex-partner Haley's six-week-old son now He claims that the baby is identical to the two kids he already has with her And despite them not being together at the time of conception He claims they were still having a sexual relationship today wants the truth And he also wants to tell a new boyfriend James to back off and let him be a dad. Liam's on the boat walk Oh, you've gone quiet. You're as loud as anything backstage. Sit back. Welcome to the show Haley your ex-partner Liam of seven years with DNA testing her six-week-old son. When did you split? Um, we've been split up, um, about three and a half Okay, but you say that the reason I believe I'm the potential father to Haley's six-week-old son Is that although we weren't together and she's moved on and she's with James We were sleeping together. Let's nail this story here and now They both say you're talking out of your backside and that's rubbish. You are not the father. This is just you spinning a yarn Yeah, she she does that set obviously Well, she does lie and she says that we won't sleep together. Were you sleeping together? Yeah, we were while she was with James No, she um, she won't with James. It were another partner that she won't with Before she's grown up to gain Different partners falling pregnant and then getting rid of them and gaining other You said that I am the father because and this is how you describe yourself to my team. I'm super sperm. Yep I get everybody pregnant. I beg your pardon. I get everybody pregnant and that's a man knows his sperm 100% hey, what can you say something to be proud of is it can I make us how many kids have you got? Um, I've got two on one away. I'd put some no that actually is something to be proud of Got active sperm That's a proud moment What do you mean? Something on the end of it my friend. Um, you told my team. I impregnate every woman. I've been with. Yep It's not something to be proud of. Yes, it is. Let's talk about her You said the reason there were doubts was that she's a cheat. She cheated on you. Yeah Tell me well when we were we a mom, um, I were cleaning all house up an hour in Oatesair's bedroom, which you can actually see it get from bedroom window. Um She was stood at gate and she was waiting for somebody. I thought she was waiting for postman. Um, but she want A lad walked up went off at gate gave her a case and carried on walking. Did you confront her? Yeah, I went straight outside confronted her and got it wasn't the postman I went out confronted her and she'd she denied it all making it that I what making it out that I was seeing things Arguments kept going off on you're still in love with her, aren't you? I mean, let's be perfect and she's just cut out all the rubbish about decorating rooms and Jeremy is toxic Postman who are postman kissing your mrs. The fact is are you not truthfully still in love with her hacked off? She's with James. You told my team. I'm 90% sure that I'm the father. I need proof I want to be the father. I know she'll cheat on him That shouldn't be any of your business anymore who she's with you are still in love with her, aren't you? I don't love her as in wanting a relationship. I think it's wishful thinking I think you think you want to be the dad because it might bring you back to her come on I love her because obviously she's I think you're still in love with her like it's mom back and agree with you Wow, this is the new dude The new dude and the old dude look exactly alike. Look me full square and tell me you don't love her I don't I don't believe that is insane. Are they brothers? she didn't move Up or down she moved laterally for one second Do you honestly believe you're this kid's father? Yeah Before we bring James out. This is the new boyfriend. I mean, what's your relationship like with him? You don't like him at all you get on with him. What? Well, sometimes I get on with him like but sometimes obviously He has real little digs and just like makes things up and well He probably thinks you're the ex who wants to get back with his bird And you probably think he's the new bloke on the scene who's taken over your kids Should be a recipe for a nice morning. James is on the Jeremy K Because end of day Yeah, I'm not going to take your role over your kids and you're not typical baby's dad How do you know? Because It's just what I've been told in So you don't know you weren't there were you end of day I've been told I feel it is not the dad and I've been told always the dad and I've been being told off the person So why in your mind James welcome to the show is Liam on national television wanting a dna test and believing 90% Believing that he is indeed. Hey this six-week-old And brother these accents are strong today Son's father is it wishful thinking does he still love it? What do you think? I think he still loves me You got to answer that mate. You had so much to say backstage Well, I don't love her because obviously she cheated on me three times and obviously I owe me hands up to the full actually wanting to try and have a relationship. We're in first place So, um, I don't love it. Obviously. I'm only wanting. Yeah to see me We do you know he told my team come on You said the only reason he wants to be the dad it isn't wishful thinking he wants more benefit money That's what you said, isn't it? Yeah Come on then right as goes from it in benefit money. Yeah Do you know if I could actually go out to work? I'd I'd actually go out to work get a job and provide for my kids in the best way possible. Why don't you? Yeah, but in the day you can go out to work because Your oldest daughter is a full-time school. Yeah, she's only just started. Yeah, why don't you get a job? I've put all my CVs in I'm at job center I've cancelled me and come support claim and I've asked them to put me on jobs Why is it taking you so long when you've got three kids potentially? Why didn't you do it five years ago because I wanted to be there for my kids? Yeah, but in the day, wouldn't you I'd like to be there for my kids But I have to come to work to pay for my kids so the rest of society doesn't have to wipe my backside. Why don't you go to work? Jeremy's not in his kids lives He just said it He just told us I'm not in my kids life because I might work taking care of them But what Well, it's gone mad you say he's not the father so you think what he's still in love with your girlfriend and he wants benefit money Yeah, and he says I don't even know why it's his business, but he says I'm 90% sure that Hayley will cheat on James No, she won't But that's your business isn't it? That's why you missed the point because people are going oh come on He's just desperate to to to get back in her good books Well, no, why have you gone he lying he's still in love with that girl 100% So quiet pal. It's because Obviously number one. I'm I'm obviously telling saying that um, aleel Like 90% she's like what's that got to do with you? Right it ain't got no to do then why'd you say it then because he probably will happen and she she cheats She cheats Jeremy cheated on his wife with his kids nannies Oh my days Told you I think man, I can't go before y'all even told me this. I knew what was up And everybody Yeah, end of day though Liam go on into her list ship. Why she probably had done it for because she probably wanted to be napper She she wanted to be an episode. She's not happy with anybody. So why cheat on why does it bother you so much? Because you're still in love with her, aren't you? No, yes, you are I don't love her You must be the only thing I want to be there for is my kids end of day So all you want to know about is to stop you from seeing your kids Do you really believe this kid is yours? Yeah, why because she looks he looks a bit in her image to hold me other kids Let's get her out the lady in the middle. Haley's on the Jeremy. What's the story? That's a valid reason 100% That is a valid reason but You gotta remember the kid got her DNA too, but like most most girls That come out if these are girl children we're talking about they look like the father Are you sleeping with him? No, he weren't even on seeing at time. So he can't be the father. No But he says you were having sex. No I won't have seen it seen at time when you felt pregnant No, I went actually we are Well, you're having sex with him. No, you were living at mine Yeah, but we're actually are you 100% sure he's not the dad because he was living with that man and not Dropping down and getting your eagle on This is the kids look like him. I'm telling you. I think he's still in love with you It's wishful thinking new fellow thinks he's a pain in the backside and you've come out and gone Well, I wasn't with you. Did you have sex with him around? So you're 100% sure he's not the dad Yeah, so what's today about for you proving that you're happy with james. He says you're a dirty cheat No, you told my team that this guy stole money from his kids. Yeah All time when I'm living with my own it A team that this guy stole money from his kids. Yeah Oh Why her shoes so big? She got the eu stepper eights on that's tough like gee She looked like she can cook a soccer ball very far in them That's tough Time when I'm living with my own living of 20 pound a week I know I'm pregnant at time Is that true? Um, no early earlier them Ailla try again. Did you steal money that was meant for your children now? I'll have to steal money off my kids. Yes I don't know what people expect me to think sometimes you come out here and you're like You know, you you butter wouldn't melt and yet. I don't know. I just Have you played him? No You weren't sleeping. You're a hundred percent sure. Yeah So we're gonna do the dna results, but we've got um, who's keely. Oh, she's my friend keely's on the jeremy cup Right cheating on him three times And you're a cocky little money to stop speaking down to him I beg your pardon. What right do you have to say that? How long have you known him? This Jesus So you were she came out on business though Around I mean, I don't get the story. I mean I get this. I mean that's not right. I get the story I don't know what I'm supposed to say. He says I might be the dad because I would see now you've come out. I don't believe you either He says they were having sex despite the fact they weren't together. He wants to know the truth Have you ever told him he is the father? No, yeah, yeah, yeah, she has when One of my friends is my friends on facebook telling me and Telling them saying oh, do you think favita? Have you ever done that? No? Yes. Yes. I've been there one Everybody is just a liar on this I don't I don't know about this one Every time I get into a relationship She messages him saying that um, I've always took money off them off of me kids See I got an eye for him to listen. If you see my track record in real life, you'll understand My bad, let me not get into that. I don't want to sound like that person But I'm just gonna watch even though I've got to save as a counter for both He just explained also how weird this situation is the two of you have split up You had two kids irrespective of the one we're doing dnn on those kids have been split up You have one each Yeah, who the hell made that decision and how the hell does that help when men when it men nearly split up and I signed my house over to ellis or alien. How does that? I don't want to hear about your bathroom I want to hear about how no no wait a minute When you and who split up and you gave you signed your house over to somebody Also the two ellis or alien when it men nearly split up and I signed my house over to ellis or alien. How does that? I don't want to hear about your bathroom Jeremy, why would you stop that? That is valuable information that we need to know that that that speaks to his character I want to hear about how that Possibly is good for two children being split up Well, it's him. We were all his idea that case he came to live with me because case he had too many needs because she were older No, it's because he will live with me mom And basically a 10-hour system. So you have one child and he has one child. Yeah, because he turned out Do they ever see each other the children? No, she stops me off at times just using kids You stop her from seeing your own child now I try I try and see jazz. I tell you I don't care if if the whole world disagrees what I'm going to say That is appalling that you were allowed to even make that decision because despite the fact that you know You might or might not be in love with her or you might or might not hate him I don't really care about your relationship to kids siblings Don't get to see each other because you two are too damn selfish to work it out for your own Okay, okay, okay If you would have said anything else generally besides the two siblings not trying to see each other, I would have questioned you And and now and now another one six weeks old. I thought he was all in love since you came out I don't know what to think. Why do you all keep having kids? seriously Does anybody ever think about the impact you can sit there and grin benefits a kid that doesn't see its sister And doesn't see its brother because you two can't argue but all you do is argue the toss That's the realest year. It's disgusting. You still be made to stop having damn children That's the whole truth six weeks. Jeremy you you never mind. It's a wage. Are you 100%? He's not the dad. Yeah a hundred percent. There's the baby beautiful. How is the baby? All right. It's fine Not the dad. Yeah a hundred percent. There's the baby beautiful Man I'm gonna go I'm gonna go on a limb here and say it looked like her current boyfriend This baby is this a cute baby. I'm gonna hold you but this baby looked like her current boyfriend How is the baby? All right. It's fine. How sure are you that you are the child's father? He said it looks like all the others. Oh, yeah 100% sure he's not yeah 100 This it looked like he the daddy I could be wrong because they look alike But what you are this is interesting the dna test results show that Liam is the child's biological father So you are a liar aren't you? She got caught up on Steve Didn't have sex with him you liar. Yeah Nothing no What's your back pal because he's right you denied that he's the dad you said you didn't sleep with him You're a liar. That's what you are I told you Liam was like his but I said it though and I forgot I had said it Liam said it looked like the rest of my kids when they came out. That is a valid observation that that I don't Appreciate the father trooper like that. That's a valid observation If you've got kids, you know like all your kids be looking the same when they come out and if it's something off then We gotta hold on for a second Yeah, I don't know She had sex with him. How can you honestly sit there and have said I'm 100% come on She did say Guilty as sin He was right And what we're gonna do with that one you can have it three days a week and you're gonna have it for four Do you know what I do? I'll get all three. That's what I do. Oh god. Yeah get all of them I really changed my mind on this story. You're a liar Nothing to say speaks to me. You was just dogging broke out volumes until you got the proof You're just like the rest of society You're gonna land to see this child. Yeah, how are we gonna do that? As long as as much as he wants to see it there be a blurring Anything I want you lot to think about before I put you in a room with graham because I haven't got the patience Is that all three of your children deserve to not only know actually the only good thing in your three children's lives Are each other and you should concentrate on making sure that the three of them spend time together because you two I hope we sort it for you pal I hope so as well And to tell you something else as well lady You know the word passion I would have expected you to be a bit more passionate about your kids I don't think you care about your children at all. I think it just becomes What the latest man and whatever they're human beings They have feelings and the best thing about it is if you carry on treating them like this when they're 16 or 18 They won't want to know you but my concern is it'll be a cycle and they'll go I don't know cat Jimmy be speaking facts, but he also be waffling a lot, but like A lot of especially now it seemed like back then I feel like younger people like in general And I'm talking about my age too when you had kids like you forget that they are human Like don't be treating them like like objects or something like Have kids at a young age do what's right by your kids you do that way you do that way we'll meet backstage Right again a story Of two people creating lives one with the mother who doesn't see the father The one with the father who doesn't see the mother in a six-week old as she said he wasn't the father and he is All you can do and we'll try our best is try and get them to focus their brains On what's right for those kids I despair right next This guest today martin has been with his wife nathalie for 20 years now at the start This is four episodes Four pieces of their relationship nathalie slept with another man and around this time she conceived their first child Andrew now andrew is 19 years of age and today martin will find out if he is indeed the father He's waited to spare this in mind 19 years. This is a massive massive day martin on the jeremy karshall All joking apart. I can see this is Absolutely huge right Um, really appreciate you being here. Um, and it's not a story based on anger or whatever. It's uh Probably the biggest day of your life Yes, not long after you and your wife, um had andrew you discovered that he might not be mine Take me back and tell me how you found that out. Did you confront her? What was the no, um a member of a family turned around and told me that he wasn't my child Had you any had you had any doubts to that point? No Did you ask her I did but it was all it always got pushed under the carpet. We'd never speak about it properly And it's just as andrew's growing up. We just thought he needed to get sorted out At what point did she admit because I said in introduction around the time of conception She had the one night stand at what point how old was he? I'm I'm not sure but it wasn't a baby when I found out When you when when you told when you're told that did you Was there any part of you thought i'm done. I'm out of here. I can't do this No, I like what you said. I'd like is the wrong word with what you're going through but For both of you it's been easy to throw it under the carpet, right? Yeah So the question that I want to ask is why now why today is it for andrew? Yes because he's grown He's he was 19 last saturday and we thought now he's grown up enough It's the best time for him to find out how has it affected you the last 19 years Not good Is it affected the marriage? Yes But you've stayed for the right reasons. I guess it's the thing that comes up if there's a rail Yeah, I really respect you for being here and I mean that what about andrew when did you tell him? When was he made aware that he's it's about when he's 16 I thought if you tell him when he's he's understand a little bit more He's about 15 16 year olds when I told him And his mum wouldn't tell him the truth at first, but she has told him the truth now There is y'all don't even got to waste no time that is your son buddy Y'all y'all ain't got to go ahead. I don't even know why you brought that boy here Y'all could have just looked in the mirror The man look just like you. Bro got your whole nose All of this is the exact same I mean, I don't know the results. I mean, I have to do this the only way to if he isn't what happens Nothing changes. I'm still his dad. I I brought him I don't know why you even wasting our time You'll you'll be heartbroken anybody can see that what will that do to your marriage? Um, it's gonna be hard for a while, but I will try and get over it Can I tell you something without you taking this the wrong way because you're much bigger than me? Um, you are you are the sort of person who I meet that makes me want to continue to do this show Because you're a good man and a good person and I hope you get the result you want I can only read it out But whatever happens what you just said is true and I suspect he's gonna come out and he's gonna say He is a good man. Good person, man. And he got one of the most elite Dad fits on that I've ever seen. This is elite. Look Comfortable shoe wear you feel me shorts To be free and and and get you a good little breeze But you got to be professional up top. You got the collared shirt on Collar dress shirt, you know what I'm saying like this is elite dad fit one on one I need to step my dad fits up clearly You know, this guy has been amazing and like it should be your judgment We're gonna start though because he's backstage at the moment taking this all in Natalie Married for 13 years together 20 Is that all right? You're okay. Natalie's on the Jeremy Carr show. Give her a now. Welcome to the show. Um, what a man I don't want to ask you about what happened 20 years ago. I want to ask you what sort of relationship martin has with with andrew He's got he's got a good relationship. He's fetched him up from day one. Thank you Did you expect him to hang around when you told him that you cheated? um now I didn't know What say he's been there from day one and Has it he admitted it has an interested in your point and said i'm too young to have a dad fit Listen, I like to wear a dad fit every now and then And i'm saying to them if I go outside, you know, I put some youngsters. You feel me? Let you know I wear a dad fit every day until I got to go somewhere Then we switch it up Has it affected the relationship badly this um I won't say he's affected it. It's just we've argued and Occasionally it's been fetched up. I want to point out this lady was 16 at the time. This is you know, it wasn't Not condoning anything. I'm just saying and martin made that decision. Um He did say that if if martin is the dad you believe that everything Literally will be perfect like that. It would be do you worry about the other side of the coin? Um Um She was 16 when she had the the child How old was he? I'm worried that it's going to come back. I might it's not his dad But as far as i'm concerned martins is his dad anyway. How old is martin? I feel fuel. Listen. Um, he's a little bit nervous. I'm gonna go and get him. Okay. Is that all right? Yeah, you both all right give them a round of applause for now We might have just uncovered something and 720p not 4k, but 720p How are you fella? Huge day for you. Oh, he even dressed like his dad. That's tough. These are the same people. Thank you gray. Um How are you feeling stupid question, but how was to start? I know I'm quite upset but I'm glad it's coming out. I want to know now How did you find out it was asking martin? He said about 16. He thought you'd be ready for it Was that a shock? Did you ever have an inkling? Yeah, because of the eye colour. I've always thought I'm not his son, but never really from What sort of dad has he been? Great. He's always been there for me Do you He's just He said to gray all the time. How'd you ask these questions? But Do you worry about your relationship with him if he's not and I can only read out the truth Obviously, do you worry about how it will pan out? Yeah, but I think he's gonna be there for me still You want him to be your dad, right? Yeah Can we get martin and your mum backstage, please? Thank you very much indeed You'll be all right, mate Man, I hope this is his dad, man. Don't do this man like this I'm gonna start exactly the same with you Niceest thing I've ever heard Shut up, Jeremy Um No reason to do it. Why are you standing like that? Do you think you're gonna laugh? Hey, Jeremy, chill. That's the nicest thing I've ever heard He's cutting that back here. Um No reason to delay this. Should we do this? Yes, you sure? And I just want to say before I open this I can only read the results. I don't I don't know them and I don't know Did he know your test results so that martin He's just That's good Good. Good. That's good, man. Because listen Today's not the day I didn't want to go through no heart ache. You know what I'm saying? I just wanted to have a good time The show hit different when everybody on the stage is mature and older, you know I know it's not cool to lose it on television because you've got friends and stuff But that must be a hell of a great for you, right? Yeah Oh Because you know like I should say it's just something's just gone like that. What do you want to say to me? Leave him alone Oh good after I thought I would Got to sort all this out my own. I've a real good chat between something. Yeah We'll get this sorted mate. Honestly, we'll get this sorted Yeah One thing I noticed about this show man. Jeremy don't never know where to sit or how to stand He'd just be outside. He'd just be there Guessing brilliant brilliant news It's all I've ever wanted Do you know what's really weird as well and again I said it to Andrew about what's your ideal age and all that to tell The irony is you've spent 19 years arguing about this Um, I'm delighted that we can get you the the truth and that is the truth. Andrew. He is your dad and I just I'm chuffed to bits for you and we'll give you whatever support we can even Graham's got a smile on his face Happy you came. Yes. Yes You know, I'm not a silly person. I shouldn't have had this sort all the time ago But I just every time we not they try to do it. We we just argued about it I guess I guess it's what I said out there. It's easy to sweep it under the carpet. We've all done that all our lives Are you happy Andrew? Final word from you Thank god Really good to meet you, Martin. Thank you mate. Really good to meet you. Are you all right? Yeah, I am now Graham will come in here. We'll leave you give him a round of applause those gentlemen. Congratulations guys So so pleased to that family specifically for Andrew and Martin and it begs the question that sort of story Doesn't it when is the right time to tell a child that you know, there might be doubts about paternity When is the right time to do something like that that family could have saved 20 years of arguments But the great yeah, man. It's the spooky thing. You never know what the right time to tell a kid like Me I would like I don't know bro because there's really no I don't know Like you would want to say like get it over as soon as possible But like a child's mind between them before 10 It's like you don't know how that could affect them But you don't know how it could affect them after but I've been waiting until like 9 10 years old to be like, all right Now's the time You know what I'm saying, let me tell you in seventh grade so you don't bring this into high school You know Or however old you are at that age So now that with Graham their lives are back on track. I am for this morning out of time. Don't forget All right, till I leave a like, comment, subscribe, turn on your post notification I'm done