 What's up my friends? We're making a new bike and we need your help. We essentially want to build a fun adventure machine that is more budget friendly. So more people can be riding their bikes and experiencing the magic of bike packing. During our initial conversations about what componentry to put on this bike, we thought the Alphine 8, the Shimano Alphine 8 would be a great gearing system. Do we put on a hub like that, which is good for most people, the 8 or the 11, or do we bounce up and go back to Pinyon, which is the ultimate in reliability? Hmm, this is where we need your help. What is more important to you? A cheaper bike with a limited gear range or a more expensive bike that has the gear range of the 600X?