 Hello and welcome to today's edition of Frightfully Forgotten's Trash or Treasure Today we have a Patreon request If you want a movie reviewed by us You can join us on Patreon The link is below Stanley Surik wants us to cover 1990's Mirror Mirror But what are we drinking? We're drinking Mirror Dark, Check Dark Lager Finger licking good Yeah Mirror Mirror was directed by Marina Sargenti Rainbow Harvest stars in this Very odd eclectic name Sounds like she was named by hippies It's a very hippie name Karen Black is in this And she is kind of horror movie royalty She was in Burnt Offerings Which we covered She's in Trilogy of Terror And she's in House of a Thousand Corpses Oh that's right, yeah Yvonne Decarlo is also in this And she again is kind of horror movie royalty While she was Lily Munster And the Munsters He's a fucking icon Pop culture icon And she was in American Gothic A very underrated Canadian movie We covered years ago Many moons ago And she was also married to like princes Yeah, like royalty Back in the day, like holy Christ She's got quite the story So the movie starts off with a flashback Back to the 50's We hear this old music playing There's a woman that bust into this room And there's this mirror There's this giant ornate mirror That's sitting in the room And it's like making all these noises Growling And everything is shaking And we see the one girl Bring a knife down into the chest of the other Then we get transported into Nowadays The 90's which is like 30 years ago Yeah Long fucking time already The house has been sold We get introduced to One of the women that owns a shop And she's helping to liquidate the assets in the house Including this fucking mirror That's sitting in the room We get introduced to Susan and Megan And they're a mother-daughter team And they're kind of just inspecting the house For one final round Just to make sure everything is to their liking Before they move in The mother's all smoking in the house And is there an ashtray around anywhere Super beetle juice scene Exactly The hoity-toity kind of posh mother With the goth kid Moving into the new house Like holy Christ Winona Ryder 2.0 She's all dark and disturbed of course And she goes upstairs And she sees this mirror that's in the middle of the room She feels an attraction to it almost Right? Instantly she doesn't want this mirror to go Nope, the mirror stays She goes to school And of course With the way she looks Instantly she starts getting mocked By all of the fancy hoity-toity kids Charlene She's running for school president And she's got some Mighty fine assets in her benefit too Right? Yeah She's kind of running against this girl Nikki and Nikki be friends Megan All the school politics bullshit That's going hatred for Charlene Megan has the door close to her room With this mirror in it And one of the dogs starts barking at the room And all of a sudden the door Opens and the dog gets let in And you hear this big yell Megan comes home to the dog Just on the cutting board in the kitchen Like dead with all this blood All over the cutting board Like the mother's all distraught And oh Oh, can't you get rid of this thing? Can't you put it somewhere else Besides on the cutting board? Does it bother you? Yes, it bothers me You cut our food on this fucking thing So Megan Starts to get closer and closer With this presence that's in the mirror Right? She starts to get more and more attracted to it Touching it Yeah, getting all weird And one night she has A weird dream with her dead father That appears from the mirror And he kinda gets closer to her And he's like, why are you Torturing me like this? And he's all ripping out his own hair And he's all melting and everything And it gets pretty fucking crazy So she wakes up and that's just All a dream but it's still enough to Kind of freak her out and know that something Weird is happening because she goes to school And all these kids are bugging her All the time, you know, tormenting her And she's eating in the cafeteria lunch And she kinda goes in this bit of a trance And then her nose starts bleeding And everything is like, whoa Obviously there's something happening here And the mirror is bleeding at the same time Yeah, one of the teachers Ned from Groundhog Day Giving Megan a bit of a hard time In class, stares him down And he has this crazy Like asthma attack in class You all take that Puffer thing too Taking out some stretcher He's all laid out She has these powers That she's harnessing From this mirror Because Charlene is running for class president Megan and Nicky kind of have it out for her Right? Megan Kind of starts seducing Charlene's boyfriend Takes him back to her Place They're getting pretty serious She's about to like Do something there And he's like, oh no, no, no, no This is all wrong, this is all wrong And he kinda gets close to that mirror These arms come out of the mirror And start tearing his face all off And shred the shit out of him Pulling him into the mirror And he's kind of fighting Dies, and then he kind of like disappears So because Evelyn Has taken all the stuff from the house And killed it at her antique shop Or whatever, she's reading all the journals She starts reading about this mirror And that it's like possessed by a demonic force And the only way to stop it Is to like drape this black Cloth over it Cancels out the powers and all that So she decides To go to the house And try to stop this mirror And that's where we're gonna end the plot So if you wanna know what happens in mirror mirror Keep watching Trash or treasure Well, that'll bring us to the treasure part of this And one of the biggest treasures of it Is the characters, right? They're pretty well defined, they're pretty well rounded And the movie takes its time to flesh Everything else, right? And you kind of ride along with the characters As it's going And they're all pretty memorable characters too Like, you know, I've only seen the movie the one time And I can remember all the characters Exactly what they look like What their traits are Good characters Yvonne Decarlo is great Karen Black is great The weird neurotic posh mom Rainbow Harvest is as good as Megan The Goth recluse It's casted really well That's right, yeah And the fact that it takes place Mostly within the high school realm It's relatable too, right? Because obviously those characters Really do exist in real life Yeah, we've all been through high school Exactly what she was going through I didn't have any powers That was given to me by Amir But I know the torment you went I think everybody wants Those kinds of powers though, right? At some point in their life Especially school, it's a tough time And then somebody's making fun of you And you can't really do anything about it You'd love to have those powers To just, it's like, you know what? Fuck you, this is what you get You're getting your comeuppings And it's funny too, like, you look at high school Like, you look back at high school And something as stupid and trivial as Class president In the grand scheme of things, that's It doesn't matter at all But in high school, that meant Everything That was your whole existence Was running for class president But in the grand scheme of your life That's a blip on the fucking radar, right? And in the grand scheme of the school It's nothing, do you not have the power But I like how it kind of goes into that Like, for a kid That's everything, that's your whole existence At that moment in time And Megan's character arc is really good in this too That's a really good piece of treasure How she's like, starts here And on a record, but then she ends up here She may be a dark looking person To look at, but really she isn't But she becomes that in the end It almost seems like the mirror Is a metaphor for something For her transformative Time The mirror kind of mirrors That, almost The effects for this movie, for what they are Are actually pretty good The demon hands I like the demon hands coming out of the mirror The mirror bleeding, there's a great Scenar of the mirrors bleeding And Megan's like, kind of getting sexual With it again, it's a cool scene It's like something out of a 90's Music video, right? The effects of course go hand in hand The kills, right? And the kills are really good In this movie too, like when that girl Gets all steamed up Like in the showers It's a neat scene because it's all Steamed, hear her screaming You know what's happening without really Seeing it, and then when you see the aftermath And she's peeling skin It's like, aw man Still see a steam? Larry David Ron's death in the tub is really good too And it's really actually fucking creepy That double, and that's what lures Ron into the bathroom And then she uses that To drown Ron in the tub As she's drowning him, she's tearing his face All up too, so like His throat and everything So his skin is coming off, and the water's Getting more and more red from the blood It's a really neat scene Classic Garberator scene where Karen Blacko's go put her hands in the Garberator and It turns on, and of course there's a false A false one First where nothing happens and then it happens You have to have the false one first But yeah, it's classic And as Cookie cutter as that scene is It still works, and the ending of this movie Is really interesting too, and I think it's a piece of Treasure because they They trick you, they make you think That they're gonna cop out On the ending, but they don't Basically it's a mirror, right That wishes it wants to For the right people And at the end, Nikki's like I wish things were The way they were before And you're like, aw man, are they just Gonna rewind the whole fucking movie And it's like, none of this ever happened Like, aw fuck, they're gonna do that And then, no, it's the opposite They flip you and it takes her back in time And she is the woman In the beginning, in the fifties Stabbing her sister, so it's like Yeah, things were like they used to But now you're back in time As a murderer It's a really weird ending Makes you watch the beginning again The first thing I did is like, is it really Them? Is it them in the beginning You rewatch the beginning, no it's not As different actors in the beginning Then the ending, so it's like It does make you kind of rewind it And watch the beginning again She gets fucked in the end She gets sent back in time Which is interesting, because you think That they're just gonna be like, aw it never happened That'll bring us to the trash of this movie It's far too slow And we like slow burns We're slow burn people But it has to be done right And in the right kind of movie That's right This isn't a slow burn Type of movie, at least It doesn't seem like it should be You know, you have a haunted mirror So it's all ready to the silly side So let's just go full on Just go for it Trying to make a smart movie Out of an odd ball Silly concept Yeah, that pretty much sums it up Right, because the fact is this haunted mirror Takes this movie down a notch Yeah, exactly Yeah, it's great for the character building Because they took it slow, it's good for that But I remember it's like When is something gonna happen There's no gore, there's no real kills Like what's this movie rated Yeah, looked it up, it's rated R I'm like what the fuck is happening In this movie where it's rated R It seems PG-13 And then you get like just over halfway Into the movie And then you're seeing all the crazy shit Nudity, blood, Dance, it's like okay Yeah, but it's a little Too late where you kind of started To lose me Before that kicks in Yeah, I was getting bored I was starting to look at the time That's the biggest indicator there And I didn't want to do that You look at the remaining time And you're like how much more is there to go And then yeah, it starts to ramp up But yeah, by that point Yeah, it's like a real Fine line there That they ride Because you can get lost there And so weird movie where it's like the first half Is PG-13 And the second half is full bore Blood, guts Nudity, sex That needs to be spread out A little bit throughout the movie So that I know what movie I'm watching Earlier on You need to get gripped in The story gripped me in But I needed a bit more And I got it, but it was a little too late The production value too I think it really hurt this movie It felt like an extended episode Of Are You Afraid of the Dark It felt very like made for TV Yeah, made for TV slash Canadian The effects were good and all But the overall Look of the movie was a little Look like an episode of Degrassi Junior High If you know what that means If you do, you know what we're talking about And the music in this movie Was a little to be desired It was okay in parts It kind of worked But overall it was very generic And it just, it was almost too much Turn off the fucking music I don't need it at this point It was a lot of generic music So Mirror, mirror, 1990 Trash or treasure For myself, I'm gonna say trash I don't think I'll ever watch it again I'm gonna say treasure As much as I did have a problem With the pacing and I did Like just like you I looked at the time and everything What is this thing gonna pick up? But I thought the movie was kind of original enough And I liked the characters enough And I kind of knew what they were going for Just enough to kind of like Okay, this is a little gem I hate to be shallow like this But a hot goff chick in a movie That's gonna help the cause a little bit If I would have seen this movie Like earlier, like in the 90s I would have had the biggest Crush on Rainbow Harvest, man I would have been like pictures on the walls And shit, I totally got a craft vibe From this, in the craft The goff kids, and it's the goff kid Who gets special powers That can make Bad things happen to the kids Who are tormenting them And then even like the showdown at the end With her and her best friend Meers the craft a lot I wouldn't be surprised if they were inspired Or bored from this movie a little bit Probably, yeah probably Well there's a bit of Carrie I didn't feel as much Carrie as Jennifer, I felt more Jennifer From this actually And I think maybe this movie Bored from that, right? And there's also Beetlejuice vibe in there, of course There's also Prince of Darkness vibe In there with the beer, arms coming From the mirror, like you can't help but Think of Prince of Darkness when you see a hand Coming through a mirror like, come on It definitely rides The fine line I think Between trash or treasure It had just enough for me to tip me over that edge Yeah, see and I was the other way Like it just is not enough And it's probably just enough To go either way So again, split decision Yup So let us know what you think about Mirror Mirror 1990 I'm sure For a lot of people it has a bit of nostalgia For us it doesn't It's coming in fresh It never played on TV, not that I knew of Not in Kanata Kanata so Let us know what you guys think and until next time Keep drinking