 It's October 19th the Astros could not eliminate the Yankees. There will be a game six and we will be discussing five and six Let's do it All right. What's up everybody? Thank you for joining us and listening to the episode today My name is John Boy. I'm coming to you from New Jersey And I got my best friend and co-host Jake and he's not coming to you from Denver And he's not coming to you from New York City He's not coming to you from Montana, and he's not coming to you from Sydney, Australia And he's not coming to you from Japan, and he's not coming to you from Maine, and he's not coming to you from Texas He's coming to you from Nashville How you doing Jake? Music City Music City, thanks for that intro. I'm uh, I'm good man. I'm good. We've got a We're riding hot. I think we need to be honest about that from the start Especially compared to where we were 24 hours ago and we've got a special thing going on for the people It's like it's like that first time you combine two groups of friends and you're like oh boy Yeah, these are my high school friends, and I'm introducing them to my college friends I hope they don't get along. I think Tom and Eddie or might fight. It seems like they're gonna hate each other But like come on. Let's just let's be cool Yeah, everyone just you know be cordial like yeah There's some people that like us that we like the Yankees. There's some people that don't even know we like the Yankees still Yeah, and if you don't know in a room Everyone grab a drink and be friend. Yeah, and if you don't know what Jake's talking about We are doubling up. We're doing one episode for Yankee talking yanks in one episode for talking baseball We did it yesterday, but what we did is we gave the talking baseball people the most like biased Emotionally driven talking yanks episode probably Recorded since they got eliminated last season this this will be a little more level-headed talking baseball episode that Everyone can enjoy. I hope Honestly though Jake yesterday I'm so embarrassed looking back at it You know what I mean like an employee bill was hanging out and he was like you guys are pretty pretty sad And I'm like man. I mean that's like kind of I think why people enjoy listening to us is because I Didn't want to record last night because I was fucking no I was as low as I'll get but We commit to putting the microphone in front of us and trying To rip our hearts out and put them into actual words and people can commissure at that and like it's embarrassing now But I think I said I have no hope. I have hope now. So it's just kind of how it goes But yeah, yesterday's episode is pretty sad Jake Yeah, and that's that's why we we made a mutual decision to a not wake up early to record the same shit again We're just gonna be really sad about it and B We thought it'd be funny to put it on talking baseball because it was honest Yankee sadness Which if you know that that's still people can enjoy that a lot of people Enjoy the Yankee tears a little bit. But uh, yeah, man, and it's it's funny with sports And it's why sports are awesome. I mean we try to script it whether it's You know at any game you see played you can you can bring up a regular season pitching matchup And you and I could say like oh, you know it could be any team and you're like, oh, well this pitcher should be good He's been hot lately That lineup's been struggling And you know, I I think you're gonna see some good baseball today and then if they get into the bullpen they should do great It's just not how sports works. It's just not and uh, the Yankees come and they they beat Verlander at home The crowd does their job the Yankees recover from I mean another laughable start. Don't give it away and uh Yeah, it's it's it just it feels good, man And I know you and I are running hot and what's gonna be the trickiest for Yankees fans is tomorrow When we talk about tomorrow's game in the later part of this episode You know, it it's almost like we're I feel like Yankee fans are gonna start assuming tomorrow and be like Oh. Well. Yeah, you know Cole's going to be ready in game seven. It's like no No, yeah Go to houston you have to execute everything perfectly to hopefully get a shot at that and uh let's go yeah you want to burn this game and then we'll get into it and then I think there's some at whole stuff we need to discuss in the series now that we're five games deep three wins to two wins like there's a lot this is the point yeah that when you get to a game six in a seven game set is when you're like wow we've really played the same team an unusual amount of times so what I was thinking today yeah like seeing Verlander twice in the same week and them seeing Paxton twice and like you know Alvarez is doing nothing and Gary Sanchez is doing like you know like we're like so ingrained and we're so deep that you're like all right let's see who everyone's doing so I think we can kind of pull the picture back a little bit more but uh yeah I mean I am uh just more on my mindset I I had conceded Jake and I'm not ashamed to admit it I'm embarrassed for myself but I'm not really ashamed because you know I told Katie like hey if the Yankees lose tonight uh Saturday is completely an off day for me like I'm not gonna do anything and we can have like a full on date day go to the movies go get massages do all this uh my cousin is hosting a pumpkin carving contest and I got myself kind of up for that I was like that'd be nice I can attend all that stuff you know and not tied to my computer watching baseball okay I guess the season's over and then um Hicks hits that home run and I'm like fuck all that that's more baseball so but I was I was I was pretty bad I was in bad shape yeah yeah enjoy your pumpkin carving I uh I got work to do I do like the pumpkin carving competition yeah and it it's uh you know it's I don't know some different things about our personalities where you and I are so similar on a lot of things but like if if there's a two percent window I love I love leaving that window cracked just because I'm kind of a horse's ass that has some bad gambling habits um but yeah you know I I thought I thought I'd wake up today with hope um last night it was really tough to find it and then I found enough of it and uh here we are and let's uh let's more baseball baby let's burn it right after a word from this sponsor you've been listening Jake we get like this cheese and wine sponsor and a Casper sponsor I'm like yo give me some beds I need some beds all right you ready to burn you got to do vocal stuff because your video is just into it frozen uh oh yeah you you were coming in clear and now you're very choppy okay we just had like a lake you followed delay there so I'm hope we don't run into that scary oh no we got a delay okay on your mark get set burn game five ALDS Yankees are in passionate kiss mode as their backs are against the wall James Paxton verse Justin Timberlake Verlander as the Yanks try to bring their sexy back for game six in Houston top one the Yankees house of horrors continues Tapper under Pax's glove past balls Yanks are lucky to get out of the first only giving up one the Astros would not be so lucky DJ26 with another one lead off Homer to spark the Yanks and the crowd speaking of spark the crowd they're calling Aaron Hicks a con because I see him winding and grinding up on that pole three run yacker off the right field pole Yanks have an intentional walk inning as they throw up a four spot then guess what like me playing pick up verse LeBron it's scoreless the rest of the way who knew Maple Leafs had nuts in it ballsy performance by the big Maple Kane Lee Britain and Chapman hold it Yanks win for one bring the series back to Houston very nice Jake very nice very nice I liked the wind and grinding up on the pole I liked bring the Maple had nuts in it and it looks like if I'm judging your reactions on your face we got rid of the like you follow delay yeah I don't know I know you were clear as day the whole way I don't know what happened there but yeah you're a low key huge a con fan oh yeah yeah yeah yeah I mean I was felt bad for him you know like how is he supposed to know that she was underage when it's an 18 and older club they say you know that's not his fault right sorry for the times I let you down yeah and all that shit so you know Mr. Lonely I'm all about it you know Mr. Lonely is one of the more hilarious songs of all time Mr. Lonely I'm so low I have no put it on a record now yeah they sound like they're in a better mood tonight all right open up the game and the Yankees shit the bed right away I mean a little tipper tapper up the middle goes under Paxton's glove and then Glaber tries to barehand it and he can't do anything with it and it's like okay we're gonna unravel from the jump this was the one thing we couldn't do and we've done it then we double up Gary has a pass ball goes to or wild pitch I don't know which one I don't know what the scoring was goes to second and then we double up again Paxton loses his own and walks a guy and then we quadruple up and he scores Springer scores on a wild pitch pass ball and I mean as a Yankee fan like you're like this is hell we just came off the worst game we've ever played in game five or game four and this is how we open up this one Paxton who can crumble he can unravel and by God DJ opening up with that home run right away is I know like the Hicks home run is really what solidified it but that DJ opening up right away just before they even get an out before there's a hit before there's a base runner it's tied back to zero zero and it's huge yeah I mean we we laughed I right after we recorded the pregame show I was telling you I was going to tweet out this list of things that can happen item one was no errors which is hilarious and after the massacre yesterday they come out and they have two errors in the first inning ball goes right under Paxton's glove and all you could do is laugh like I don't know tell me if I'm wrong but like I wasn't sitting there angry I was just like oh my god I was already dead it you can't kill the dad yeah whatever yeah that'll they our fate our best-selling shirt you can't kill the dead and we uh I don't know you just had to laugh and then okay you get out of the inning again and you I think the thing that was different mood wise is that we've seen James Paxton's first inning struggles all season literally the worst first inning pitcher in baseball um so I think there was a little solace in that that would not have normally been there if this was Severino Tanaka or other and then yeah the La Mayhew thing is huge because it's the punch right back it's over first batter of the game and it's Verlander and it we're on it you know he not only his I mean his home run to tie the game so you could make Paxton's first inning awash is huge but also just La Mayhew comes up and he hits that judge ropes a ball glaber ropes a ball and it's like okay like we those were like the three I'd have to double check stat cast but those felt like the three hardest hit Yankees balls we've seen basically all series hmm yeah I don't know I'd have to check stack as well judges pretty hard I was I would say this though like the Yankees have had a lot of guys a lot of pitchers on the ropes and they can't score in the first and Paxton got out of it because the Astros couldn't score in the first either and whoever scored more runs in the first inning was going to be it and that's kind of been the model for Paxton and Verlander where you know Verlander is going to deal like he's gonna find himself and if you want we've been saying this on talking baseball for a while if you want to get to him you have to get to him in the first otherwise he's gonna fuck you up and I mean Hicks hitting the foul pole it's a I mean it's a it's a series saver at the moment because the the offense didn't do anything the rest of the way the Astros one two three Verlander one two three to Peacock one two three six times out of eight Yankees got up eight times Jake and six times they went down one two three like besides the first inning they were utterly dominated and and the foul pole this is going to sound corny but I think it's also why people enjoy us because the romantic side to baseball like the foul pole just feels like the gods are on your side oh like so much shit can go wrong in this game when you see that ball hit the pole and when they show showed the zoomed out reaction to the whole stadium because the whole stadium can see that it's just kind of a special thing and you as a Yankee fan you hope you look back and be like yeah that that damn pole turned around our whole series but like dude think about and maybe this is dumb but Yankees lose this game if that ball goes a foot to the right like if that ball goes to the foot a foot to the right of the pole and Hicks pimped it the Yankee fans and the Yankees team are just looking around each other like it's just not our fucking week huh but instead it hits the pole and you and I have been harping so much on the first inning of these games that we've sounded kind of lame like I've been coming off of it just because it's felt like we've been saying the same thing every time all the runs in the first inning that was it yeah no I mean yeah I mean but like that's the we got a lot of pitchers here that once they settle in I mean even Grankey once they settle in and they find their rhythm good luck you're not going to touch them you wait to the bullpen and it's and I mean obviously most of those pitchers are are Astros pitchers Paxton and the three Astros pitchers because even Tanaka's not like that but yeah I mean all all of these pitchers are I think what you're saying all these pitchers are at the quality level that if they get on a roll that they're going to start rolling like you're you are you're hitting is now the problem like you have to find a way to break them yeah well I mean Paxton was good in this game did you like my theory that he was only allowing a base runner every inning just to keep the crowd into it yeah because when I did see that when you strand a runner the third out means more the crowd gets more hype going into the next inning it's a good strategy and I think maybe that's why Astros weren't able to put any across because they were just one two three in the Yankees Verlander needed to let some Yankees reach base to give them more momentum when he got the third out it's it's a new it's a new strategy I'm developing called don't do this don't ever do this again uh yeah no it's a theory thanks for bringing it to all of us I do I do have something that's a faux theory PHO theory okay that I want to bring yeah FAUX theory yeah we got it that uh that's a abbreviation for phony I I mentioned this during the pregame show and now I'm glad I did but the game I wanted to play with you was I thought James Paxton could decide a lot of how he's viewed by Yankee fans by this performance tonight because if he threw up a dud you know Yankee fans were going to point to two bad starts against Houston they were going to point to the middle part of the season where he was bad or if James Paxton had a great performance tonight you know you could point to him ending the season on like a 10 game winning streak and he can kind of be this endearing figure to him it also ties into his personality a little bit and I think and and this is the corny part of it but I do think there's a part of that that ties in that like I don't know if James Paxton had his a plus plus stuff tonight and he was pegging 98 99 casually here and there and just dominating the strokes like yes that would have been awesome and we would have been like yo Paxton shoved but he didn't have his a plus plus stuff tonight he had to fight and he like he he worked and he earned this game and I think he I don't know if he earns bonus points for that but he he gets a little credit in a different area Paxton yeah he gets credit for being gutty dude it's like something we haven't seen in a while and and the right and that leads into something I got DM about that's funny when Boone went to ask him if you're okay and and he and you said I'm good let's go let's fucking go so I just got a DM from our good friend Lindsay Adler who writes for the athletic and they asked him so was it I'm good let's go let's fucking go and Paxton's response was yep did John Boy see that that's pretty cool nice he said all his friends were texting about it that's funny I mean it was pretty clear that that's what he said and it's cool I mean you want those moments yeah that uh that home run might have almost ruined it you know what I was gonna do Jake I had it set up to like have the gif of him lips like reading his lips and let's go let's fucking go and then I was gonna play like the out right afterwards like if it was a strike out you know because that would be even more badass but then it was like a deep fly scary ass fucking rope and I was like you know I just do I'll just do that that was cool never a doubt yeah I mean if you're the Astros you came into Yankee Stadium and you won two games and now you have two games at home and Cole is saved so like do you think there's any Astros fans shaking right now because I mean putting taking off my Yankee cap as much as I possibly can to the talking baseball listeners right if you're Yankees if you're an Astros fan if I was an Astros fan I'd be sitting pretty cocky still you got to come to our place beat us twice and beat Cole once I'd be sitting there pretty cocky like as a Yankee fan I can try and talk myself into it rile up hope as an Astros fan I don't think they should be fearsome as an if I were an Astros fan if I were a boy if I were an Astros fan the first time you would get genuinely nervous would be before a first pitch of the game seven because they have literally an ace in a hole they have the ace in the hole in Garrett Cole so a they're saying all right we're going to go back home we'll take care of this in game six and move on if they don't they're still going to say well this is why we like they'll be saying like well we could have pitched Cole game six but we saved him for game seven because we knew we'd have them so and you're welcome Houston for that impression I just think and then right before game seven you'd go like holy shit the pressure would be on us because we have we had a three one lead we have Garrett Cole on the mound if we fuck this up we're the assholes but yeah if you're Houston you're still confident I think what is the funny thing Jimmy that I'll I'll say confidently because it's kind of bad for Houston it's it's gotten overlooked because the Yankees haven't played good baseball in about two games Houston hasn't been great I think they have three games where they're hit list with runners in scoring position there's a couple guys in their lineup that are really struggling but the Yankees were like one upping them and now I think some of the Houston flaws of this series are being brought to light a little bit more the Houston flaws like alvarez is there hitting it's just no one can hit really do you know that Houston is worse than the Yankees that with runners in scoring position in the series yeah and I think I think that's what I'm saying like it was funny before today's game some of the Houston beat riders were like posting the numbers and be like you know oh yeah you think the Yankees are having bad look like look at Houston and it's like well a a lot of the pitchers are shoving and be yeah like it was before today's game it was a great thing for Houston that they were still winning with these stats after tonight's game it's kind of like oh Houston's got some problems too yeah what how many how many players do you think in this series and we're five games deep have a batting average on both teams um uh damn this is through the first four games so it's a little harder yeah damn through the first who's hitting let's play that game no I was gonna play let's I was gonna boy this I was gonna I was gonna play who's not hitting because the astros actually have more they have more players after four games with the batting average that starts with a zero than the Yankees which I wouldn't have guessed yeah they have Yuli Gurriel and Alvarez both those guys have a 063 and 067 after four did Yuli get some hits today no Gurriel and Alvarez both went 0 for four so those guys they those guys are the biggest black holes for the astros and then on the Yankees you have a lot of Gardner Gary Edwin's out now but Stan didn't look good who is hitting yeah I mean it's it's kind of it's it's what the Yankees just did when when Jordan Alvarez and Yuli Gurriel the the Y guys when they were involved a little earlier in the series I mean those were their five and six hitters and Correa was seven hole which and Correa you know was a big thread he obviously had the game winning home run you know that stretches out their lineup so much more now that those guys are struggling and even Correa is not having a great series the ones he's hit have counted big time but yeah I mean Houston is having a very similar situation to what the Yankees were having with only their top guys really bringing it to the plate and the rest just being a dead hole Chorinos is now 0 for 13 in four games after five games Jake how many how many people have more than two hits oh this sounds like an awesome stat I'm really excited for this so you have to have three hits or more three hits or more after five games the Yankees have the Yankees have four players that have more than two hits and and the Astros have four as well it's four and four or no did did Braggman get a hit today okay it's five and four Astros have five Yankees have four Altuve, Brantley, Correa, Springer, Braggman all have more than two hits Springer and Braggman only have three each DJ, Glaber, Judge and Didi, Didi have three it's really just the top of the line-ups for both teams man Altuve, Brantley, DJ, Glaber, Judge those are like the guys that are hitting it's very top of the order heavy it shows up in the stats and it shows up in the field for the game I mean when when was the last time that we were at a team's you know eighth or ninth hitter and we're like oh crap well it just hasn't happened no and they let Mariznik because all those guys all those guys feel bad Mariznik got a hit today and I was like come on because now you got now Paxton puts two on for Springer that was I was pretty like you can't do this Paxton come on man and then he gets out of it he struck out Springer so that was cool but but he had Mariznik 0 for two they throw Mariznik in there versus a lefty right what's what are the what's are they gonna make any changes to their lineup they have Tucker who they can play they started him a game and they started him in the ALDS game Redick had a couple hits and a bomb home run do they make any changes do they take out Alvarez do they take out Guriel for a start because tomorrow is going to be all bullpen days so you're going to want to mix and match a lot of people and maybe like you know if you can sprinkle Tucker the lefty in to change up the matchups a little instead of Alvar or instead of Guriel or I don't or no Alvarez is a lefty so put Mariznik in instead and then Tucker I don't know do they make any changes do you think I'll say this I think with the lineup they don't really make any changes I think right field for them right now Redick and the kid Kyle Tucker is kind of a coin flip Kyle Tucker's obviously much more talented but Redick's the veteran and you saw like a mistake got made to Redick and he put in the seats and he made a really nice catch today that Redick basket catch that was underrated that's a nice play it also it was it is a very very nice play but it looked funky because when when broadcasts switch from one camera to the other you lose some frames so they were on the wide camera and he didn't catch it yet he was running it down and then they switched to the closed camera and it was in his glove and in that one frame that it jumped we didn't see it go into his gloves was like what the fuck just happened it was weird so I think for Houston it's less of I don't think for game six you make any drastic changes I mean Jordan Alvarez is going to win the rookie of the year having only played like 90 games or something I think what what has been allowed is that you're more open to pinch hit opportunities like like maybe they'd I don't know maybe they wouldn't be scared to use Mariznik you know he's a defensive specialist for them does that mean they start them and they're not away to go not afraid to go away from them or if Tyler Lyons came in for a Josh Redick at that would they pinch hit him I don't know I think if you're Houston you definitely have to be more open to that because I mean let's let's be honest coming into tonight there was a chance Houston steamrolled this series four to one and you know things were kind of rainbows and butterflies it's compromising no no love maroon five but I think again after today a lot of the things that have been like oh yeah the Astros you know they're they're a great team and stuff has been going their way the second line has been like yeah the Astros are a good team but they've got their problems too and it's uh it'll be interesting to see how how aggressively hinge does attack those yeah I mean it's gonna be interesting to see how hinge attacks is bullpen day tomorrow I mean your kitty is gonna get a chunk of action I'm guessing Jake yeah and I don't know I think we wrote I think we roped a doped Brad Peacock you think so we let it they let him get get him out one two three today I mean judge was they judge was sitting off speed again and took a fastball on the middle strike three they they let Brad Peacock look good because I think now AJ Hinchell use him tomorrow and they think Brad Peacock's meat so that was that was the old rope dope that was smart of them yeah so uh Jose you're kitty and I have no idea if I'm saying that right he pitched one postseason outing uh like in Tampa Bay when Verlander sucked he hit Darneau in the first then they got the double play ball then he gave up a single then a walk so the first four batters he faced he allowed on then he got a strikeout got out of that and then the next inning single strikeout single strikeout so I mean that's that's a lot of base runners and not a lot of time and I think five he got he let five base runners on while recording five outs and it's a small sample but it's in his first time in the postseason button right trying to say is your kid he's not really a threat um and he's their bolt guy I think the I think the bigger thing and I think one thing that you and I will mutually agree on Jim is that if we were AJ how about on the count of three if you were AJ Hinch who do you start in game six one two three Joe Smith yeah okay that's cool it's a no-brainer for us he looked really good the Yankees are gonna have those three righties uh at the top of the order um and Joe Smith's a veteran I think he's like 15 years in the league so that seems like a no-brainer we'll see what Hinch actually does uh for Akiti Jim I I think again I'm getting into gym mode which is my favorite mode I think we've been saying this all series so I don't think this is too Yankee centric to say the Yankees are rooting for bullpen throughout this series when the Astros bullpen comes in that's a win when the Yankees bullpen comes in they feel like that's a win but it's a bullpen day yeah but the Astros bullpen has been great and not bad so I don't know if that's they have they have they have but I mean if you're the Yankees like this is this is what you want it think about before the rain out how excited Yankee fans were for this for the bullpen game I know no I totally agree with you but we we were expecting to get to the bullpen and after game one we haven't they've been fine I mean the bullpen looked better than Verlander then the bullpen looked better than Cole almost like yeah I think the bullpen stats are actually skewed a little bit because Glaiber got the one run off of Joe Smith and then um in the first game the Yankees put up some bonus runs against the bullpen uh so the those numbers look skewed but in in the innings that have mattered for Houston's bullpen they've been great yeah who do we all right well we're we're gonna we'll kick into what any final thoughts on today's game final thoughts is uh this was a judge there was a quote that Bregman said after game two where Bregman said something like we weren't gonna we weren't gonna let this we weren't gonna go to New York down 02 that was Bregman's quote right right yeah we this like our team was never gonna go down and there was like an extra in this game and I had no problem with the quote at all like I totally get it but a lot of Yankee fans had an issue with it no I thought it was a hard oh quote I thought it was a hard oh quote and I think the same with judges yeah with it well judges just judge just said the same thing so my message to Yankee fans is if you if you were upset with what Bregman said the judge just said the same exact thing his quote after the game was I knew we were going back to Houston after I woke up this morning it's fine like that's what like their athletes like yeah if they had if they lost he would he would have pocketed that feeling yeah yeah that that thought would not have come out if the Yankees lost I just think it's I just think it's funny how much there was an uproar and Bregman said it in Yankees Twitter and like I wonder if there's not now because it's uh it's the same exact quote and it's fine just like yeah I was confident it's easy to say yeah I was confident after the fact but anyway uh let's take a quick break and then we will come back and uh preview this game six a little more okay cool break over Jake who is the Yankees bulk guy Chad Green is going to get this start I would if he does and I'd be shocked what can Astros fans third-party fans expect because it's kind of a toss up do you go Hap do you go Sessa do you go Johnny L's who's getting who's coming in after Chad in your perfect world if you map out nine innings and we can try to do this for the Astros but we won't be able to do it as well can I try to do it first yes I think you get two plus out of Chad I I'll add on to this before I do whatever my spiel ends up looking like I think Chad is the bulk guy I think he's going to get to face the most batters up until the Yankees get to the meter their bullpen I agree with that I agree with that well okay let's work backwards here Chapman for the ninth Britain for the eighth Cain leaf well you have to imagine those guys for you have to combine those guys for three innings in a bull game okay okay so eight nine eight seven I mean Britain just threw a good amount of pitches yeah not too bad but he didn't pitch the day before okay Cain Lee Cain Lee Cain Lee's the dude who's pitched back to back day so he's so let's eliminate three innings for Chapman and Britain yes one for Cain Lee okay so we have five innings to go so you give two plus to Chad let's call it two to be safe two to be safe now we have three innings I think it's the kitchen sink man it's three innings and yeah you might get some you might I mean you might get some fucked up shit you might get because Van Heller for writing Tyler Lyons for the lefty bring in Cessa for batter by batter bring in Hap for the next lefty yeah it might be nuts Ottavino please toss him in the dumpster I'm just joking item Ottavino I don't want you in the dump no I mean he probably he probably gets a shot I you know if it's cherry if it's Cherinos and there's two outs I that might be a bad amount of you know gets in the second inning how the times have changed but yeah I think the Yankees try to ugly this came up I think it's the classic when you watch a lesser football team and you're like yeah they got to run the ball control it make it ugly I think the Yankees inning three through five might be ugly you might see LeWisiga Heller Hap Lyons who might miss an Ottavino you could see five pitchers in those innings I don't you know Ottavino will get a chance but he better be batter by batter like he better be quick quick quick hook and you know what might be good for him is is finding that window if if it's you know if if there's a guerrilla if there's back-to-back righties towards the bottom of Houston's order like maybe be like Adam prepare for these guys because you're going to face them in the fourth inning like just be ready for that because you you have to do anything you can to make him more comfortable than he's been but yeah I I think you know a lot of people are assuming Hap Jimmy we've come this far it's game six let's let's say Chad is going to go through the the Astros lineup once 30 pitches whether it's 1.2 innings or it's it's three innings if he gets somehow clean when the Astros come up for their second time through the lineup you're not going to open up Jay Hap with Springer, Brantley, Altuve and Bregman that's not how the Yankee ship is going down and maybe that's what you tell Ottavino maybe you tell Ottavino like hey Chad's open in this game George Springer's first at bat you better come out and fucking get him because that's yours and then we're going to go Lyons to Brantley and then we're going to go another righty Heller to Jesus Heller to Bregman and Altuve yeah screw that I don't know man I don't know why is it going to get loose yeah why is it going to Sesser above Heller I think Sesser I think Sesser you could go batter by batter yeah Lyons get a lefty and get him out of there I think the end of the story is the Yankees are going to be kitchen sink every literally all hands on deck until about the fifth and then on Astros side like I have no idea I mean we want we say Joe's we would start Joe Smith but we don't know if they're actually going to do that they might start or Keady and like dude they might roll or Keady like if he can give them four then they'll roll them I think I think it's a it's it's definition of like and and Astros fans again correct us if we're wrong because we understand that like our point of view isn't perfect on this but I mean or Keady again like they're only going to let him get in so much trouble you know like yeah but if he's he's a talented he's dealing I think they they they'll let him roll whereas if Chad's dealing he's not going more than one time through the order right I mean literally literally for stretched out reasons I don't know I I don't think or Keady would if her Keady makes it clean twice through the lineup I still think they pull the plug twice yeah like I don't think her Keady's per yeah I think the most he'll do is twice the lineup if he's even starting like we don't know I guess I should check Twitter but I doubt they would announce it in a bullpen game actually shouldn't and then like as soon as going to take care of the back half right Joe Smith and Will Harris have been have been getting a lot of innings Josh James but the Yankees scored on yeah James has really been James has been good for them and he's semi he's not starting pitcher stretched out but he's he's got he's stretched out decently for reliever he's another guy that could open or they could save him for innings five and six I don't know but he's been good this series and he's one of the more talented arms they had and then Ryan Presley like Yankees fans are kind of hoping that he comes out yeah that's uh that would be the fun one on talking Astros that I I don't know if our bias is in there but the I think talking throws they're saying please don't start Presley and I think they're saying don't use Presley in six seven eight nine yeah I mean he uh he's got two outings this postseason zero point two innings two earned runs in game two versus the Yankees he came out gave up a hit they pulled them right away didn't even get it out in game four versus the Yankees he got two outs but he walked a batter he got credited for the win um yeah I think I don't I don't know I don't know where I don't know if they have blind faith in him like the Yankees seem to have an out of you know or or if they're like nah he hasn't looked great I've got a I've got an interesting question for you and I I don't know if you saw any of the AJ Hinge quotes but um when AJ Hinge was asked about Garrett Cole he said he's pretty much said like yeah Cole Cole should be off the table for tomorrow do you think if Houston has a lead maybe after the sixth inning there's any chance they tell Garrett Cole to fire it up because he's their best dude no because if you do that you should have just started them because if you're gonna burn them for game seven start them yeah I just I I agree with you but I the way that he said the quotes has me just a little hesitant and I mean they they they watched that Boston Red Sox team who literally was like hey whoever's up next like get ready and get loose and the Red Sox pushed their team to the limit last year and it worked I could see a situation where if they're up three one in the six that they go to Garrett Cole that would be nuts it would be a dagger but also if you man if you if you do that Cole needs to be the rest of your game right like you can't use Cole he gets the eighth inning then you go to Asuna in the ninth and then I can't do that if you bring in Cole you need to ride him to the game ends I don't I don't think they just start I'm just picturing I'm just picturing the Red Sox run last year they had a couple moments where it was like holy crap if Houston can somehow push one across Boston just played their whole hand it never happened but Houston might have watched that last year and if they've got a chance and they have the lead in the later innings they might just go for the throat with Cole because as soon as look good will Harris is look good but they're not Garrett Cole yeah I'm very interested to see how a bullpen play bullpen day plays out we might get like a one nothing game these offenses are doing absolutely nothing bullpen days are harder all the runs have come off starters it feels like besides out of you know gave up some runs and then their bullpen gave up some runs in game one but doesn't I think majority of the runs have come off starters right Chad gave up a three-run homerun all the impact runs have come off starters is that correct to say like games have been one off starting pitching besides game two yeah I guess no I think um well the the Gary home run I think that was relief and it wasn't impact in the game necessarily and then the Chad green three-run homer in the out of Vino Homer so no yeah no I guess not it start starting pitching is still your best chance to score early I don't know admit hey maybe it'll be a baseball Susan moment that we wake up to a nine eight game and the the lineups do their job on bullpen day I don't know man yeah all right I think we then we talked through it all nationals are just sitting around hanging out other teams are still doing their manager search like there's a lot of other baseball news I guess once the world series is over we're done with these daily shows we're gonna have so much to catch up on but yeah for now this is in the grind um if you're Yankees fan tune into the pre-game show tomorrow before the game and then uh I don't know if we lose if the Yankees lose tomorrow I I don't think I'm going to hit that bottom that I hit last night I think uh it's kind of like I accepted death and now we're dancing with the devil a little bit and either we're still dead or I'm like if it gets to game seven I can't even say it yeah then you'll see some you'll I'll be unable to control myself as well again we'd be fucked up mentally if it goes to game seven um uh Jim the the scariest thing speaking from a Yankees fan perspective is if tomorrow is a tight loss or a crushing loss or however it happens that would mean the Yankees would have two games they'd point to in this series and say like those could have been ours that's that's the that's my biggest fear as a Yankee fan right now is that we point we end up pointing at game two and being like fuck we had them um so I don't know you're right we we died after after game four um but I don't know man I'm uh I'm locked in it's how about this I'd be saying this if it was the other way around after game one I said or after game two I said I think this bad boy is going seven it's two great teams let's get to seven yeah all right that ends this episode thank you guys very much for listening and hanging out with us we will be back tomorrow either incredibly happy in it nervous or incredibly I guess sad and uh thank you for going on this ride with us we appreciate it we love you we'll see you tomorrow