 My name is John Getz. I'm the editor of Investigations for the German Public Broadcaster NDR. And between 2011 and 2017, together with the Suddeutsche Zeitung, we were in a partnership, well, we were often partners, but at that way with WikiLeaks when it came to doing different stories. And we went to the embassy, I went to the embassy repeatedly in that time, also 2015, 16, 17 to discuss stories and basically to have kind of editorial discussions about stories we were going to do or not do. And I find it quite disturbing that what was essentially a private editorial situation was conceivably or possibly or likely being listened to. The procedure that the others have spoken about was also the procedure that I experienced in the many times I went to the embassy, that my phone was taken, often other electronic stuff was there. I'd love to find out exactly what was done. I also know because I am, and the broadcaster NDR is behind this, we also sued UC Global in the Spanish case for having listened to our conversations. And we found in that process a series of documents that they prepared about my meetings with Assange when they're. And so I just find it very disturbing and I thought that we were protected, especially as an American citizen by the Fourth Amendment.