 All right, so I don't wanna waste people's time that much since if you're new to the group, I will share. So there's the white paper that we're essentially working on which is basically trying to explain chaos engineering for a specific audience. I will post the link here in the chat. So we're basically looking for community feedback. I'll send an email to the whole mailing list after this too. So we're looking for feedback on the white paper essentially. So I pasted a link in the Zoom chat. So basically it's an overview kind of the practice of chaos engineering, what tools are out there and available so trying to index them in a way that makes sense to an outside reader. So we would love feedback on that. I am also looking for volunteers to present at the kind of one of our conferences coming up in December. So, but I'll make that call over email. Other than that, like we're also working on a cloud native landscape that features chaos engineering. So if there are tools out there, we would love to have them featured. I'm trying to go get the link in front of you once I find it. So right now this is kind of a short list of tools that we have available, but we're looking for essentially more additions and feedback on that one. So there's definitely a lot more than just four tools and services for chaos engineering. So we'd love to get your feedback. Other than that, like I have nothing really else to cover outside of we need to essentially get this group meeting again with more people attending and actually getting formal folks presenting. So other than that, like I have nothing else to be any questions for me. I'm happy to answer them otherwise I'll end the meeting short you may be muted. So sorry. I was looking at the white paper just before the call. I should not finish the whole thing. I've reached the terminology section. One interesting question that we were probably just came in because we were having this discussion at our workplace as well. It's interesting that we have the term in experiment because then you define a chaos experiment which some template or a specification in particular like as a scientist who has a hypothesis would have an experiment. Correct. And then they would run certain, they'll run the experiment few times with different patterns. So what would you call a unit of an experiment run? Because each experiment run may have unique parameters like a unique environment. Example, the same experiment you may want to promote through different, you may want to promote through different environments. You want to run in your active region, in your DR region. The survival experiment is interesting because it's a specification. Runs are interesting because they carry a lot of important information. Yeah, I don't know what would be a better term for that than just generically experiment. I get the question that you're asking. I don't know. I mean, one thought process is just ask your question on the mail list and see what people feedback or open up an issue on the white paper and go from there. So I don't have a term for you, but we have other experts in the community that probably are a little bit better than me where I'm a more of a chaos engineering novice. Yeah, I think we were having the similar discussion. We couldn't come up with the right one. Yeah. Interesting, but it was so important because each thing was unique. It's not, it cannot be represented by the same object. It's like different instances, right? Yep. I think through this a little before proposing the possible. Yeah, you don't have to propose a term. I would just ask the question, just ask a question if there's a term for this and then maybe there is or people will like say, hey, let's come up with something. Cool, good question. Thanks. Yeah, so other than that, I'm gonna follow up over the mailing list kind of with getting a volunteer for the next meeting to actually present, get some more eyes on the white paper. Ideally, our goal was to get something in shape for there's an event in a couple of weeks in San Francisco called Chaos Cough. So essentially we kind of want to at least say like, hey, we're having like a final draft of this. We like feedback and so on. So cool. Oh, got the message from Miko from something but I'll go through it. Cool. All right, anything else, Miko? You want to say something or are you good? Are you coming to the cons to the Chaos Cough? Okay, you'll be there. Yeah, I'll be there. I'm gonna give a quick talk about what we do with the Powerful Seal at Bloomberg actually. All right, perfect. Yeah, looking forward to catch you in person. So I'll see you in a couple of weeks in San Francisco. Oh, that's great. All right, other than that, I will end the meeting a little bit early and get things a little bit more organized for next time. So cool. All right, take care, everyone. See ya. All right, bye-bye. Bye-bye.