 There's a breakfast in plus TV Africa time for off the press as always. We have a Zika Nyaituk who joins the conversation is a public affairs analyst. Good morning is Zika. Yeah, I took it's good to have you join us Good morning. It's a privilege to be on plus TV Africa. Thanks for having me many. Thanks as well let's set up with the leadership newspaper and the manner caption for what the leadership says 2023 PDP governor's shown at Tico's declaration meets in Abia very interesting as we In closer to 2023 a lot's going to unfold national chairmanship APC governor's concede to President Muhammad of Oari. That's PMB on consensus candidate Say we will support presidents anointed are aspirant in a democratic dispensation and we constantly talk about democracy in our political parties Because if you can't have that, you know at that point to the foundation and would you rather not expect, you know The largest skill or the biggest skill You also have pressure mounts on all the aspirants to step down ahead of the convention Bonny meet senator today. So all of the politicking and All of the interest and lobbying would actually start Electoral at Nass set for showdown with executive over Abia courts vetted federal executive council approves 92.1 billionaire the second Abuja airport runway That's also what you find and just before we move away. You also have 5000 resident around leaky deep seaports may relocate interesting I'll cry in a door as a basket sack 514 workers and You also have neto chief ones Moscow ahead of the emergency meeting talking about the Ukraine issue Ukraine and Russia consent. This is some of the headlines would take this morning on the leadership Away from the leadership we'll move on next to the nation newspaper The lead story this morning. Buhari governors agree on Adamu as consensus chair Which I'm right is there senator in the money south senator carry north endorsed as deputy chairman on unity list No election at convention or that chair aspirants to get refund of nomination fee That's the main story on the nation above the masthead Oguani or ladik both 35 others in PDP zoning panel beside that story Widest circulation, okay showing card the cries protests over all a uvc Agitation is crazy. Once again showing card the cries protests over all a uvc Millions gone as fire raises leaguers at Benway markets Give us another chance be the big governors big Nigerians other stories on the nation this morning IMF ready to lend more to Nigeria So all lunches legals ride with 1,000 cars And then the red strip here. Let's see who can take that one or your government said to hand over GCI to old boys Association those are the stories you can find on the front page of the nation newspaper away from the nation we take a look at the Punch and on the punch she talks about the electoral act National Assembly Plans appeal tackles George Malamune system amendment and this is what you find underneath Bajabia Miller acts a Tony general not to temper with electoral act Caught ruled that the provision be deleted not part of our law Malamune is quoted APC moves to bar appointees from voting at convention and primaries. These are riders underneath the board caption Still looking at the front page of the punch quite interesting headlines report where your husband resides and NYC tells married prospective corpus and Buhari others silver carry CDS to hold crude oil theft and Sardin Kaduna Boz dead for he's 37,000 church attacked Settlements raise very very sad PDP governors list Buhari regimes economic woes and boast better leadership and Just at the time where you know, there's a lot going on especially in security Economic hardship and what have you? You I mean politics is still ongoing. So you have people I mean governors senators everyone Lobbying and the politician is ongoing who becomes the next governor who becomes these and The issue of governor especially for those who are contesting. I mean for those were Incumbent for instance governors and senators and what have you has actually been relegated You know to the back end. So politics has taken the front seat really sad 1000 taxes will provide employment says So will you that's talking about the governor of legal legal state and the lag right that was launched you also find out autonomy this regard fire me I carried the loser position NUL GE tells Buhari legal shorts Damage a co-bridge as fire destroys market traders actually lament These are some of the headlines we take this morning on the punch newspaper And then we'll move on next to the Tribune All right, electoral act National Assembly to appeal judgment on section 84 subsection 12 With the writers there we are working to implement court or they had a court into the AJF But Jabya Miller wants Malami against hasty enforcement of ruling Lagos right someone Lou rose out 1,000 cars for taxis Kim Pegasus and a blames fuse Cassidy on lack of Forex Traditional worshippers dissociate selves from invasion of all AU campus Lagos free trade zone investments to heat 461 billion dollars in 45 years. That's according to nebsa APC governors in those Buhari's choice for party chairman as Zones work toward consensus candidate Adamu Musa Alma Kura Akuma Most of our mission ray face screening committee Senate caucus meet CEC PC Today now fact. Okay, it's ninety two point one two three billion narrow contract for a Booja airport second Runway above the must-have Nigeria a sinking ship Needing urgent rescue a Tico says twenty twenty three a choice between unity and division fire raises bridge shops at a book more in Lagos, those are the stories you can find on the tube in the front page that is All right, let's have is he coming out to show his thoughts this morning on the papers is equal once again Thank you so much for joining us All right, let's take a look at the the punch newspaper here talks about the National Assembly and the plans to appeal Section 84 subsection 12 and the fact that Malami insists on amendment Calling the Electoral Act. What are your thoughts? The very first thing is that we must realize that this nation belongs to all of us and that the people that have been Elected into government and those who are appointed by those who we elected All put there to serve us they are paid by our money and As a result, they owe it to us as Nigerians for them to do What will be in the best interest of the generality of the people? To that end, I think it is despicable. I think it is shameful I think it is unethical for the attorney general of the Federation To handle a matter as sensitive and as important as an electoral act in a way that he goes to one place brings up a case Without getting the principal partners to that case to be heard and a man who is a judge sits on that case in almost record time Gives judgment to that case without any difference To the principal partners to that case In the electoral act You cannot But see the National Assembly as a principal partner You cannot but see INEC as a principal partner You cannot but listen and hear from them before you make a judgment and Anybody but the attorney general should be one person who says for such a sensitive matter Let hear from all the sites before a judgment is given No, the judge goes ahead to give a judgment on such a sensitive matter And then the attorney general who should be the custodian of do-rightness in legal Judas prudence is the same person who is rushing with lightning speed to want to Activate the necessary legal proceedings to ensure that it is expunged as directed by the law and Yet so many other judgments that have been given Validly given seen by the public as being valid No response is made to them by way of implementation now The the the National Assembly I must commend them Particularly the House of Reps have said number one. We're going to appeal. I think that's both arms of the of the National Assembly Number two from the House of Reps We are going to write the National Judicial Council because this is unethical This is an abuse of office. This is something that is unacceptable And I want to say if you follow the readings on the social media Which is the the the market place or the village square of Nigerians You can see that Nigerians are incensed and they are 99.9% behind the National Assembly my la mission Please know that we are paying him to serve us and not to serve his personal interests If he wants to contest no problem, you are at liberty to contest, but please step down and contest No problem. That's what the law says for now And if you don't want to step down then follow the proceedings and I finally want to tell a PC That they should be very careful because if they want to take the law for granted Zanfarah experience might come back to bite them All right. Let's do talk about the APC. They are still in the news with Different captions from different Newspapers leadership caption. Yes, this way national chairmanship APC governors concede to PMB on consensus candidate. Well, the nation captioned it this way Buhari governors agree on Adamu as consensus chair their national convention is just Days away all about it's a day or two away So what do you see playing out really on the 26th of March is you can I will tell you this for free APC has found itself between the rock and the hard place and They've got to bring Strategies to help them navigate the minds We are the minds Number one, there are people that are not in APC anymore But they are still in APC. Sure. You understand what I mean They are there to Scatter that whole thing because they've left APC already. Okay, I'll give you a very little example Please do a man like Juan Cuasso was not like trying to be a gentle man He probably would have stayed in PDP Until the dying minutes when he knows that it was his heart was out of the PDP and then all the damages are done And he will leave. There are people in APC that are no longer members of the APC But they are going to get their pound of flesh They are determined to get their pound of flesh. So they are waiting and APC needs to find a way of praying to identify such people and know how to handle them and not to take them for granted number two, I Believe that APC advices have been able to read the current electoral act Which is so important on the concept of Consensus well, you may say this one. It is about the party and not about election I don't know how those things tie up, but within the concept of Consensus in the current dispensation there must be an Agreement of all parties concerned possibly in writing All parties if one person says no, I don't agree You've got to go to back to the back to feel that before they could ignore the person and just move on these days One insignificant person can go to court and the court will be very clear on the matter So I think that APC needs to be very careful on what they are looking at as being their Consensus person to ensure that whoever emerges as a chairman will be a man that is Eligible to sign the forms of their candidates to INEC that is recognized by INEC So the processes and the procedures know the such that they're known is imputable that's very very very important and Finally I've said it before and I say it again The extent to which everything hinges on one man Just shows a very weak party that has no systems. No structures and such a system Wanting to come back is taking Nigerians from granted This convention should have been one area where they tell Nigerians we've rebranded with change We are coming with a new approach. We are doing things properly Trust us, but if at this dying minute APC is still APC They are wanting to come back. I think there's something they know that I don't know but trust me that thing Must be in their minds But let's still stay with you know the APC and the fact that's on the leadership By the way, you have the leadership seeing the national chairmanship APC governors concede to President Mohammed Buhari on consensus Candidate and it's part of the thoughts that you have held just before now But as you can I took we know that internal democracy. It's a principle that's so important You know to a democratic regime. It's not just in Nigeria, but it's a global phenomenon and the fact that if you know the lack of internal democracy would always cause Interparty conflicts and that at the end of the day would trickle down to you know democracy as it is So, um, don't you think that you know at this point in time? Where we're thinking about I mean having the electoral laws because we begin to question some people like you have always said you Have become a big fan of the president for just simply, you know, giving a yes You know passing an assenting to this electoral at as it is but we still find all of this element which are still very You know fundamental to our democracy You see those elements Will have to be there until the mainstream media Wakes up to the reality that Nigeria does not have two parties Those two parties are going to keep making the mistakes They are going to keep shooting themselves in the foot and they are going to get themselves out of reckoning Now what what bothers me about mainstream media with all due respect is that We why do we think that we have two parties in Nigeria? It's a myth. It's not a reality you see One day I'll have an opportunity to do a synthesis to Nigerians on What we have been calling election and under this this Bogus thing that we call two parties Two things I would like to tell you for free one APC members plus PDP members All put together the form less than 40% of the voting population We've got to know that Forget those figures they give you go to an umbrella state Man that had over three to four hundred thousand at primaries could not get 50,000 at the election This election is his members and Non-members of his party combined. He could not get 50,000 or there about but in his party primaries alone. He had over 400,000 this is bogus figures that are founded that is why I like the current electoral act Secondly the way they conduct elections in the past is you just take a few forms and go there to the polling unit As soon as they leave there just divert between the polling unit and the coalition center Divert pack the car settle the police settle the parties settle I net settled Everybody and then feel your funds. We've never been having elections in Nigeria. This is going to be the first time We're the figures at the polling unit are the figures that get transmitted to Abuja Are the figures that everybody I'm contesting the governorship I am telling you that at the close of the elections in 2023 I already know myself from the current electoral act Nigerians need to be a lighting to know that But as you can yeah, I took I totally understand where you're coming from But one will begin to query an electoral act that does not promote internal democracy an electoral act That does not address the issue of you know fundamental Democracy and allowing the people to express and allow people, you know to express themselves At the party level, which is very very critical. We can't take that You are wrong the electoral act has made it very clear That you have three ways that you have your candidate emerge You have direct primaries may every member of the party vote like we are going to do in a DC It's a choice. These are the sort of things that the main so So why do we give the choice because as long as you leave that option? We understand the back and forth that has been but is it going? Yeah, I took you on this I mean we were here We were here when we had the back and forth with the particular close until that close was included And we know that the consensus clause that has been included in that bill just allows power to you know It's like few leaders and that was That's what's going to constantly happen. No, let me tell you let me say I've been a national chairman of a party and I'll tell you this globally Globally you can have direct primaries. You can have in direct and you can have consensus Now what the current electoral act did was to Make sure that what they did before on consensus is stopped. You just get inside and then they will legislate Everybody step down. We are bringing that man, which is autocracy, which is in position They said no if you have sold forms to four people all the four people have to agree that We accept this man All the other three must agree If any of the three does not agree you've got to go to the field So so in the case of the APC you think that there's some some sort of agreement That that is they are they are still living in the past They are living in the past they've not come to terms with the current realities That's why they didn't want this this electoral act to see the light of day when we sit down and do a Synthesis of the current electoral act. You will see that we've taken a bold step forward It might not be everything then we've taken a bold step forward We could not all do direct primaries because there is no party platform That will be addressed after this election. I've written a letter to National Chairman of INE There is a way to organize the party register of every party and put the membership in three categories active financial Non-active financial others active financial means you have your PVC and you've paid your membership dues Non-active final financial is that you have your PVC, but you're not paying your financial your dues Then the third one others is anybody including children where you want to know groom them on the ideology philosophy of the party Now those that are active financial They have your PVC and they have paid your membership dues will all be voting members Delegate in every election By so doing you get people to pay by dues and you get every member of the party to be part of the leadership recruitment That is the way forward that is too soon for now. You can have that register now So let us manage this first process and get to the second phase for now I think Nigerians need to know that if a PC and PDB are not willing to do the right thing There is an alternate and the mainstream media should also bring up this alternate because there's too much silence about the third force which is ADC don't dismiss them Don't dismiss them bring them in the mix so that Nigerians have a choice All right, uh, Mr. Aitok. Let's move on to other things for sake of time So always in the news, uh, practically all the papers are picked up on these um legos, right? He has launched a some sort of a taxi You know scheme and uh with our thousand Taxis Yesterday, you know, I also want to get your opinion concerning that it's in the punch It's on the punch on the nation newspaper as well You know, so the thing is that uh, legacy government is actually taking Into or investing into transportation yet again You see that as a as a good step a step in the right direction Or they want to compete to the private sector. What are your thoughts really? You see governments I am one person who believes that government has every business being in business because Government must be the most organized sector The most focused sector because government has our lives in their hands And Miyato cannot afford to live his life on the hands of somebody who is irresponsible We must come back to seeing government and putting it on them to be the most responsible The most organized the most focused If you look at chapter 2 section 14 subsection 2b It says the security and the welfare of the people Shall be the primary purpose of government now leave the second part then the first part the security and welfare of Your yourself everybody is the most important thing And that is put as the primary purpose of government Come back to um, my brother obon samolu You know when he removed my friend and schoolmate ambide from office. I was very very unhappy You know ambide and I were schoolmates federal government college worry and understandably You know secondary school is where you have like your best friends and all that But I must say that just like Buahari has signed the electoral act and I'm forgiving all his son his sins I am since someone who has come in he's acted very well And I'm I'm very happy with him very very very happy with him coming to transportation Let him Look at ibum air for instance in akwaibom Everybody including myself. I was the first person that said that was absolute rubbish nonsense Waste of our resources. I don't agree When they started operating I came back on air say I take back my words. I apologize. I'm very happy Today ibum air is the best run airline in Nigeria without a doubt Any businessman who wants to go on time takes ibum air to that extent if lego state Can also play that same role Of bringing if uber can be that you know both can be that effective and efficient Lego state can as well come in and play in that market And get a good chunk of the market share and give legations They can even as government be able to play down on the profit margin Such that the drivers the commission that goes to these both people Can now go back to the community to the drivers and they could be a relative Regulation on the first So government has every business in kind of networking with the organized private sector to get this thing done I don't know the modalities But I want to say if the modalities is right the lego state government would have studied something that other state government Will emulate and by the grace of god If I become the governor and we also emulate because there's nothing new Is it okay? Yeah, I took let's get it a little bit into this one I mean you still have some people who say government has no business in being in government. I mean in being in business Governor So if god, I mean because a lot of people would still say and it's an argument That's been very valid because if you begin to look at some of the enterprises and Businesses that government has been involved in I mean, it's really in a sorry state So, um, that argument will still remain that government has no business in being in government or in business Rather government should be In the business of ensuring that there's an enabling environment provide security Where you have the private sector thrive and we have seen that you know As an international Phenomenon and practice across board, but let's even calm down I mean it's a good thing that the lego state government is delving into transportation thinking about it But recent incident that has happened where we still hear the government saying oh, we're involved And we're here in the back and forth with the brt The brt would be the most safest one. We think it's the most safest But the sad incident that happened in lego is one that has actually discouraged a lot of persons Even though you still have some people patronizing and so with that, you know Thinking about that and looking at that situation and having this what's what's the security because one would not think that Elements would take over, you know a system a transport system at that and begin to perpetrate evil. So, um, How then is government good at being? You know in business or should governments to really be in this business of transportation? I'll tell you this Google Is able to track globally everything going on Both is able to tell you all the streets In all the cities of the world What am I saying the power of technology? What the lego state need to do is to have a camera in every car as a precondition That camera is strategically located and must never go off Anyone that goes off an alarm is triggered and whoever is in charge is sanctioned With that you create a safe environment Where and that camera has night vision Once you do that you bring safety. You don't run away from problems any problem that comes Like I just thought of this Okay, it means that if there are people that are in charge of that transportation system and they they are only safety In two levels Safety of the vehicle to make sure it's in check at all times. There's a checking manual There's a center that services and gives you every six months You go for accreditation and because of the way it's done you get in the fix your system You get out you must then you have certificates of change of tire If it's every year or every two years In fact, there's a system that they regulates that and then you have a camera inside That camera shows what's happening in that car 247 is a tracker when that is done Lego state government would have given us a system of transportation that is safe And can be subsidized Because the business of government is to make life easier for the people what I cannot and finally let me say this PPP is a global best practice as of today I am building one of the biggest estates in a quiet bomb In fact in the southern part of Nigeria where government is not putting 10 naira for any of the houses And yet they have an estate with full infrastructure and everything Now that is the way to go PPP. So let this transportation be done through that PPP platform And then I mean not that I'm going to expect a response from you because we're out of time But if PPP is actually that model that should be adopted We still have some governors, especially in the south side. I mean the south south region who have said We're going to adopt this pattern But there's really nothing to show off at the end of the day in that state. Anyway, so get the right people get the right people This is the time All right. Thank you Izzy Kenya ita for your time and your input on the show this morning. We do appreciate it Always a pleasure. Thank you. God bless you All right, it is still the breakfast and plants TV Africa. We are going back today in history. What happened This day back in history. We'll take that and we'll be right back stay with us