 Welcome to the RA-23, the Radio Communication Assembly, just before the World Radio Communication Conference WRC-23 in Dubai in the United Arab Emirates, where I got the great pleasure of being joined in the studio today by Bezebi Jackie Mosini, who is from the Botswana Communication Regulatory Authority. Bezebi, welcome to the studio. Thank you. Now, I'd like to start off by talking a little bit about a resolution on gender that's just been approved. The international telecommunication, the ITU has had a number of firsts on the journey towards gender equality and mainstreaming in tele and radio communication and information communication technologies. Last year, as you know, Doreen Bogdan-Martin was the first woman elected to lead ITU, historically shattering 157 years glass ceiling. And recently Carol Wilson, the 2023 Radio Communication Assembly chair, became the first woman to lead these significant proceedings. And just in the wake of this, there's been even more good news. The resolution on gender at RA-23 has also been approved. Can I start off by asking you, what would you say are the career obstacles that women engineers face today? Well, many. First of all, I think it will be very much how we are raised, right from the family level, where we will be given roles differently between the girl, child and the boy, child. And the boy, child will be having roles which deals with electronics, maybe, or, you know, things to do with the mechanics, which would not necessarily be given to a girl child. Now, with that mindset being embedded on a child at that very young age, it then means as we grow up, we grow up knowing that this is for boys or for men and this is for girls and women. Now, when you are able to go beyond that barrier, as in terms of me being a woman engineer, even when that was the case in growing up, you then also confront another one. And this is dealing with our male counterparts. That is to say, you feel so out of place. You feel, because it's not even a lot of us in this space. And even in consideration for maybe promotions or otherwise, it's like, no, it's men. It's men who should lead, who should be given those posts rather than women. And also maybe from the family aspect of Africans. Let me put the African culture here where men are the leaders of the family. So it's like it's even taken to the issue of the workplace where they are given those leadership roles, even though we have many women whom I do better in those roles. So, I mean, there are still many obstacles. And with this resolution, I think it's going to go a long way in empowering women, like you have already talked to Doreen, to the R&E chair. And I think many women will be able to now assert themselves because this resolution empowers them to do that. Just that. What are the elements within the resolution that you think will help? I would say, oh, really? And I mean, the focus of empowering the women to do so and, you know, the issues of parity, equity, those elements are quite critical. And I think that is the reason why my country ended up nominating my name to chair committee two of the WRC. It was because of these resolution taking shape, taking form. And then we were like, okay, let's put our lady there. Let's see how she will fare. And well, although I'm waiting to hear the news next week Monday, but I'm very confident that this just adopted resolution will, you know, to a large extent assist me in getting that role. And finally, what advice would you give to other women, especially the younger generation who are looking for an opportunity to advance their careers in the radio communication sector? This guy is the limit. I mean, the network of women has, you know, done a lot. I mean, I have been mentored by women who have been in the radio communication sector for a very long time. And I'm also here to mentor others to ensure that they don't go through what we had to go through before all these networks and even the resolutions were, you know, in place. So I would say, ladies, young girls, the sky is not even the limit. The limit is yourself. So you go for it. Wise words. Well, but so we thank you very much for joining us in the studio today. And we look forward to catching up with you again very soon. Thank you very much. Thank you. To have me. Yeah. Thank you. And if you've enjoyed this interview, which I'm sure you must have, then please tune into our it YouTube channel, as well as our SoundCloud or wherever you get your podcasts from. And for further information, please visit www.itu.int. Thank you very much for tuning in.