 Good morning, everyone. Welcome to this week's mentoring hour. It's wonderful to see you all. I hope you all are doing well. Before we get started, can I request one of our students to open with the word of prayer, please? If any one of our students could please unmute and pray. It would be great. Thank you. Good morning, everyone. Let us pray. Heavenly Father, we just want to thank you once again for this time of mentoring. We pray that whatever we're going to learn today, Lord, that you lead us, Lord, that you will minister to us through your word, Father, and we'll be able to apply whatever we've learned in our own personal lives, Father. We also pray for a blessing upon our entire faculty and all the students here in the Bible College. In Jesus' precious name, we pray. Amen. Amen. Thank you, Sanjay. Okay, so welcome once again. Today we will have a general question and answer sessions where you are welcome to ask questions regarding any biblical topics or any questions that you had regarding theology or the Bible or life in general or ministry. I want to welcome you to please post your questions in the chat section. We have our faculty present and we would be very delighted to answer those questions. But before we could get started, there were two questions from last week which were not answered due to time. So we're going to start off by addressing a couple of those questions. Okay, so sharing the question in the chat section. One of the questions was from Komal and Komal had asked, I know one family in that family, one boy cannot speak. He is dumb and he is not a believer, but the whole family is a believer. So the family are asking for what a baptism for that boy. So some pastors said he cannot speak because of that we cannot give him what a baptism. So what should we do for that boy? Should we give or not? So that is the question. So there's a family and there's a person in the family who is unable to speak, who is dumb. And the question is, the family wants him to be water baptized, but some of the pastors have said, you know, without his consent, we cannot give him what a baptism or without his agreement or without hearing what he has to say or expressing his desires. So can we give him that person what a baptism or not? Can I request one of our faculties to please respond to that question? Pastor Nancy, may I request you to address that question? Yes, sure Pastor Roshan. So quite an interesting question there. So I think the issue here is to understand whether that boy is a believer or not. If we have evidence to that fact that the boy is a believer, he can be given what a baptism. So the way we will understand that is, see, in day to day life, I'm sure he's communicating in some way, even if he's not able to speak. It's possible to know what he wants, you know, about other things. So similarly, if, you know, the family can understand what he is saying, maybe they can talk to him. I'm assuming he can hear. So if they can talk to him and then if there's a response from him, where we know that, you know, he is confirming or affirming his faith. What about is the next step to someone who has received the Lord Jesus as their personal saviour. So it's just a matter of ensuring that he's a believer. So I think some form of communication is possible. And if he's able to write, then maybe, you know, some, some kind of a script, then even then they can confirm it. So the point is, we need to know whether he's a believer or not. So if he's not a believer, we cannot go ahead. Right. Yes. Okay. Thanks. Thank you. Thank you for sharing with Pastor Nancy. Is there anybody else who would like to share their thoughts? Any other faculty? Okay. It's Pastor Nancy and I think I agree with you in terms that there's some form of communication is possible. And I'm just reminded of my father-in-law who had a brain stem stroke and he was locked in his body, I think he was kind of paralyzed, but he could feel and, you know, but he just couldn't move. And it's not much so that even only one side of his eyes could move. And his daughters, one of whom I married to is, I mean, they trained him to respond to questions in a sense that if it's a yes to just blink or close an eye that is functional. And with that way of communication, God understood that his desire to accept the Lord and also to be water baptized. So yeah, I feel if we can establish some form of communication, which I'm sure is possible, as you mentioned, you can go ahead. Thank you for answering that question. We also have another question. We had another question last week from Lucy and Lucy had shared. How could I help some of our relatives in our family who still go to pilgrim centers for cutting their hair as a practice from years, which was followed? How can I help them with scriptures? So how can I help? How can Lucy help some of her family members who are still practicing their customs and the traditions? How can I help them with scriptures is what Lucy is asking. Can I request a faculty to respond to that, please? Thank you, Lucy, for your question. I think you can just tell them that it's not the outward observance of rituals and laws that is going to make us righteous in God's sight. Or it's not going to justify our sins or it's going to wash away our sins because like you can quote scripture passages like Salvation is in no other name but in the name of Jesus. If you confess the amount that Jesus is Lord, then you will be saved and that we are made righteous by grace through faith. So that is what Paul also talks in Romans. So you can talk about these scripture passages and also maybe share with them Matthew 23 verses 25 to 26. And in this passage, Jesus basically is rebuking the religious leaders of his time, the Pharisees, basically for their hypocrisy and for their external focus on rituals and ritual purity while neglecting their inner transformation. So Jesus is comparing them to whitewashed tombs that look beautiful on the outside but full of dead bones inside and basically they're impure on the inside. So the key message is that true righteousness basically involves more than outward appearance and it requires purity of the heart and genuine obedience to God's command. Also if you look at what God tells the prophet Samuel that obedience is better than sacrifice. So I think these scripture passages can help in telling them that it's not about doing things or giving things. That is not what God requires of us. But what he's more interested is in our obedience to his word and us loving him, which is the greatest commandment is to love the Lord our God with all our hearts, soul, mind and strength and to love our neighbor as ourselves. I hope that helps. Yeah. Thank you, Roshan. Thank you, Pastor Selena. Lucy, sorry Pastor Nancy, please go ahead. Sorry to interrupt you there, Pastor. I just wanted to thank you, Pastor Selena, and just wanted to add one more point to what Pastor Selena shared. So in the New Testament we see, especially in the book of Hebrews, that the Lord Jesus has become that perfect atoning sacrifice through whom we now have received salvation. And so many of the temple practices which were followed where people were sacrificing things and matter, that has now changed. So for us as believers, we don't have to engage in those kind of rituals anymore. And we see a verse from 1 Peter chapter 2 and verse 5, which says that we are now living stones being built up a spiritual house, a holy priesthood to offer up spiritual services. We offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God through Jesus Christ. So now we are part of the new covenant and what God expects from us is to offer up spiritual sacrifices. So just wanted to add that one point. Thank you. Thank you, Pastor Nancy. Lucy, do you have a follow up question that you'd like to ask? Okay. All right. Thank you. I want to encourage everyone of us to keep your questions coming. We will try and respond to that as much as possible. Excuse me. Okay. We have a question from Joseph. It says, his question is, does getting angry repeatedly give Satan an opportunity? Is Satan responsible for anger? Again, I request one of our faculties to respond to that question, please. Okay. I'll just share my two cents on this. Well, anger, like every other emotion that we have, is neither good or bad. We feel, you know, happy. We talk about several of the same emotions that we have. It's neither good or bad. We feel, you know, happy. We talk about several of the so-called positive emotions. Similarly, God has given us anger as well, which is an emotion. And it's like a thermometer. Like we can, we can assess what's going on within us by these emotions. So, so, you know, anger in itself is, is not evil, but the management of anger is what, you know, we should be concerned about. So all of us do get angry. And the Bible says in Ephesians chapter four, you know, in verse 26, it says, be angry and do not sin. Do not let the sun go down on your anger. So it is, it is understood that there will be times when we do get angry. But how do we manage it? So when we manage it well, we do not have to sin because we got angry. It can be a righteous anger and it can be dealt with in a proper way so that the outcome is positive. So, you know, that is about anger. And just look at Joseph's question again. Does getting angry repeatedly gives Satan an opportunity? So, yes, if you know it's not a righteous anger and we are constantly getting angry and it is affecting our relationships, then yes, obviously it's giving Satan an opportunity to work in our lives. And is Satan responsible for anger? So, having said that anger is an emotion given by God to us, I don't think we can, we can put the soul responsibility on Satan. Yes, he's a tempter, but it depends on how we manage our anger. So, yeah, it finally boils down to managing anger the right way. So that's my view. And I'll just leave it open for others also to share. Thank you. Thank you, Pastor Nancy. Thank you. Joseph, do you have a follow-up question to that or any of our other faculties would like to add to that, please? I'd just like to share from Ephesians chapter 4 verses 31 and 32 where, you know, Paul is advising us to get rid of all bitterness, rage and anger, brawling and slander along with every form of malice. It says, be kind and compassionate to one another, forgiving each other, just as in Christ God forgave you. So this passage encourages believers to manage their anger in a constructive and godly manner. And like Pastor Nancy said that Satan is often not associated with temptation and sin, and he's not directly responsible for human emotions like anger. But anger is an actual human emotion and feeling angry is not sinful, but we need to learn how to manage our anger in a constructive and a godly manner. Like she also pointed out to Ephesians chapter 4 verses 26 and 27. So if we repeatedly give in to anger and allow it to control our actions, it can lead to sinful behavior and can damage relationships as well. And so it's important that, you know, we learn to, you know, ask the Holy Spirit to help us in this area to fill us and also to, you know, to meditate on scripture to fill our hearts and mind with the word of God, so that, you know, we can bear the fruit of the Spirit and, you know, the Holy Spirit can sanctify us and help us. So sanctification helps us to the extent that we, you know, allow the Holy Spirit to work in our lives. So if this is anger is an issue and it's a problem and it's something that's troubling you, then you can ask the Holy Spirit to take control and to help so that it doesn't give an opportunity to the evil one to take control of your life and to lead you to do things that can be harmful and destructive. Yes. Thank you. Over to you, Pastor Roshan. Thank you, Pastor Salina. Joseph, I hope that's answered your question. Thank you. Awesome. Thank you, Pastor Nancy. Thank you, Pastor Salina. There's a lot of wisdom in that answer. You know, a lot of my friends will be surprised that I'm a pastor because 18 years ago, if you had met me, one of the tags that I had was Roshan equals short-tempered person. So I didn't think I'd be qualified enough to answer that question, but yeah, I think I've gotten better. Okay. Let's move on. We have a question from Jafina. Okay, so I have a question from 1 Corinthians chapter 11 verse 10. She's seeking understanding. It says, for this reason, the woman ought to have a symbol of authority on her head because of the angels. I believe it's the very famous well-known chapter in 1 Corinthians chapter 11, talking about the covering the head in worship, and that is the context of at least the first section from verse 1 to 16. But again, I'm just going to request one of our faculties to respond to that question and give some context to it. Okay. Thank you, Jafina, for your question. So when we interpret what Paul is writing, especially to the various churches, where he's writing this to the church at Corinth, or he's also mentioning about similar things in the Book of Romans and Timothy, we need to look at it and study it in the context. So here, basically, Paul is talking about the order and decorum that is needed within the Christian community in the church. And so he's particularly talking about gender roles and head covering during worship. So he's suggesting that women should have a symbol of authority on their heads. So this symbol traditionally is interpreted as covering their head or a veil that signifies submission and respect for authority. So this is particularly in the context of worship gathering. And so he's saying that in the church, women should submit to governmental order or structure or the authority that God has placed in the body of Christ. So we know that in every area of our lives God has kept authoritative structures or authority structures. So if it's at home, it's the husband who's the head of the home. If it is the church, it is the pastor. If it is the society that we live in, it is the government. And that is why we see Paul writing too tight is to Timothy and to the church at Rome and saying, you know, submit to governmental authorities because the Jews were basically saying that, you know, God is head. We don't have to obey to come under any we don't come under any human governmental authority or structure. And then so and the workplace we have our bosses. So God has placed governmental structures with authority in every sphere or area of our lives. And it is what he requires of us is that we submit to these authoritative structures that he has placed. So he's basically saying that women have to submit to men in the church, like, like even when he's writing to Timothy, the churches at Ephesus, you know, women had an upper hand because of the of the goddess Diana that was worshipped there. There was a lot of a priestess that we're serving in the temple of a dynamic. And so when these people were coming into the church and they're becoming believers, they thought, you know, they could also, you know, exercise their authority in the church, but Paul tells them that, you know, they need to be quiet. You know, they're not allowed to preach and teach doesn't that's not mean that, you know, women are not allowed to preach and teach or keep quiet. So in the same context here as well we see that this is basically in regard with the decorum and the church order and he says, you know, that covering their head is a symbol of authority. And the phrase because of the angels has been interpreted in various ways. Some scholars suggest that it refers to angelic being observing worship service and therefore emphasizing the importance of keeping proper decorum and orderliness in worship. And other scholars say that, you know, it indicates spiritual significance of symbol of authority in the presence of God and his heavenly beings. But basically to understand this verse, it is important that we honor God with the order and authority structures that he has established in the church. And not that women have to cover their head for any other specific reason but just for this. Yeah. Over to you Pasarosh and I hope that helps, Jeffina. Thank you. Pasarosh, I just want to add something. Yes, thank you Pasar Salina. So as Pasar Salina shared because of the situation in that Corinthian context, Paul had head coverings and just want to also add the fact that, you know, when there is head covering involved, especially here, now it may kind of sound like to express the acceptance of authority or in order to express our submission, you know, that head covering is required. But we must understand that it was only in the Corinthian context. And it was, as Paul writes, so he says like if a woman is married, then, you know, she needs to cover her head. So wives in other passages we see in Ephesians 5 again honoring the institution of marriage where Paul writes to the women, married women, he says wives submit yourselves to your own husbands as unto the Lord. So it's this particular head covering thing matter here is very specific to the married women. So women who were married were asked to cover their heads. And also just want to point out that as we look at verse 16, it says that there are no such custom in the other churches of God. So, you know, it's not like a blanket rule which was asked to be done. And with regard to the angels, yeah, I think Pastor Selina has already explained that. So thank you. Great. Thank you, Pastor Nancy. Thank you, Pastor Selina. And thank you, Jeffina for your question. Okay. Is there a follow up question, Jeffina, that you would like to ask or are you satisfied? No, Pastor. Okay. Thank you. All right. Let's move on. We have a question from John Paul. The question is, in our study of ministering healing and deliverance, we have learned that a believer cannot be possessed, but be oppressed by the devil. Being possessed by the devil shows part time or full time manifestations. We also have seen in some cases that believers manifest while praying. Does this mean being oppressed also can show a certain level of manifestation? Thank you, John, for that question. Right. And Pastor Nancy, can I request you to respond to that? Yes, sure, Pastor Roshan. Thank you, John, for that question. And the answer is yes. So one need not be possessed to manifest. Even oppression can display some sort of a manifestation in certain cases. So I hope that helps. Thank you. Thank you, Pastor. Yes. Yeah, I would just concur with Pastor Nancy there because I mean, there's always a response to any kind of oppression. Even if you take simple examples like if a nation is oppressed or if a group of people are oppressed, there is a response or a manifestation is just an expression of their response. And they would respond some way if a person is oppressed by say, depression of some sort. There is a way they behave. And that's just how they manifest in terms of how they express. And so, yeah, John, I hope that answers your question. But if you would like to ask a follow up question, please. Yes, that answers. Yeah, thanks. Awesome. Okay. Thank you. Great. Keep posting your questions as we have and we would love to respond to them. It's a general question and answer session we, as you've noticed already, we do not have a topical discussion this week. So if there's been a burning question in your heart regarding the Bible doctrine and the Trinity and theological questions, please feel free to share questions regarding ministry. And life in general, please feel free to share. Okay. Well, we wait for the questions to come in, which I'm sure will come very quickly. Go ask, Austin Nancy, do you have any of your favorite encounters with God or in your journey so far that you hold very close to your heart? Okay. One or two maybe. It's fine. Yeah. I mean, I wasn't expecting this. So it's a little bit of, you know, a surprise. There are too many. I just I'll just probably talk about whatever I can remember now. I think encounters during worship, I would say, and this is as a child because my mother would take me to some of these. Those days you could have crusades and you know, every small ground around our home. There'll be something going on. And so she would take me with every opportunity. And so in those worship sessions, most of those, you know, worship sessions had, they would do it in the local language. And I cannot forget the kind of experience I had of the love of God. You know, words cannot express what one experience is. And I feel like some of those sessions were rather long, but it would always feel like we just walked in and it's already over. And you never want to get out of it. In fact, in one of those worship sessions, I still remember very clearly that it was an ordinary evening. But during the worship, it was literally like there was a cloud over that group as we were worshiping the Lord. And as a child, I mean, I had no reference, like I hadn't read a lot of the Bible and I mean, forget about, you know, reading, there was no question of understanding it. But I didn't even know about the presence of God being like a cloud, but I did experience that and that's something that I can never forget. And it always comes back to me, the powerful presence of God and encountering God in that way. So yeah, that's one that I suppose I can think of right now. And yeah, thank you for sharing. Thank you for sharing. That's wonderful. Thank you. We're still waiting for questions to come in. Please keep them coming. And let me ask Pastor Selina the same question. That's okay. Yeah. So I think encounters with God is one was, you know, when I was in Bible college and I was basically thinking of the whole significance of the Lord support what it really means and and all that. And I was just sitting there in the chapel and praying and we were, you know, they were serving communion. And I just, you know, saw this whole, I saw this whole thing in front of my eyes. I saw Jesus. And he just showed me his, his head that was bruised with the crown of thorns and his hands, which had, you know, both the nail marks. And it was just such a powerful encounter that it just, you know, I just just crying there and it just put a whole new significance to the to partaking in communion what God has done, what Jesus has done for me on the cross, the significance of that. Of course later on when I came to ABC, I learned more about the significance of partaking in the Lord's table. But, you know, this encounter was very, very powerful. It was very real. The other thing, yeah, I think I'll just stop here because we have a question from Esther and Rose. Thank you for sharing that. Thank you. Thank you both. Thank you. Okay. So let's go back to questions here. We have a question from Esther. It says, How to not get discouraged and feel down when people accuse you of past instances. Whenever they are confronted or asked to explain their present activities which are not acceptable in the sight of God and man. How to not get discouraged and feel down when people accuse you of past instances. whenever they are confronted or asked to explain their present activities which are not acceptable in the sight of God and man. Esther, would you also like to elaborate on your question and explain a little bit more? Yes, Surya Pasterushan. What I was just a normal instance which happened yesterday, like two of the people were not in, I mean they were at the drop of a hat. They were trying to pick up a fight over something very, very trivial issues. And then why don't we forget the past and go forward is what they were saying. And instantly they started saying last time also you did this. So instead of forgiving and forgetting, people at a drop of a hat try to bring back the memories where one got offended. And then even after repentance because God forgives and forgets. So whenever there is an issue and when people go back and start accusing. So we as human nature, we again bring to our remembrance and maybe feel down and not get interfere when people are. I mean, it's good to make peace between people, but then this may be a repercussion. So how do we deal with this? Thank you for explaining your question, Esther. I'm going to again refer back to faculty to please respond to this question. Any one of them? Yeah. Oh, Pasterushan, if you have something you can please go ahead. No, no, I was going to ask. You're going to ask. Okay, great. Yes. Thank you, Esther. Thank you for sharing and sorry to hear that, you know, you had to go through this difficult situation. So I think the way to keep ourselves strong in the midst of such accusations is to just be clear, right? Yes, we may have made mistakes in the past, you know, that people know about. And if we have dealt with it in the right way with God and set our relationships right with people, we know that we have accepted the forgiveness of God. And, you know, the forgiveness of God, you know, as as we study once we come confessing and we are genuinely bent in before the Lord, like one John one seven to nine, we know that God forgives us and we've received it. Now, people may keep bringing it up, but we must not let that affect us personally. That's what I would say, because we know that we've dealt with those issues earlier. And so we still remain strong when people are bringing it up over and over again. And in case we're not able to stop them yet, let them say what they want to, but at least we know that this matter is under the blood of Jesus. So, you know, that's what I would say. I'd like to just share something, Pastor Roshan, regarding Esther's query. So Esther, yes, one, you know, we have all of us have our past and our past baggages and our sins. And we know that, you know, once we confess that to the Lord, you know, he has forgiven us. And Romans chapter eight, verses one and two says there is no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. Also, one John chapter one, verse nine says that if we confess our sins, he's faithful and just and he will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness. And just some few encouraging verses for you to remember is Isaiah 43 verse 25 where God says, I even I am he who blots out your transgressions and remembers your sins no more. Hebrews 812 says that, you know, God forgives, I will forgive their wickedness and will remember their sins no more. And of course, the famous, you know, the very familiar scripture passage Psalm 103 verse 12 says as far as the east is from the west so far as he's removed our transgressions from us. So these are encouraging scripture passages that we can think about and know that, yes, you know, we have done some mistakes in the past. And we have confessed that the Lord and the Lord is forgiving and he forgives and he chooses to forget and he remembers them no more. So when people accuse us of that again and again, then, you know, we don't harbor anything against them because it's human nature for them to do it. And we understand we can understand, you know, they need also spiritual, you know, renewing and help from the Lord. So we pray for them and ask God to help them to be gracious in the way they speak to be forgiving and not to keep condemning others. It also helps us and teaches us that, you know, we also learn to forgive others, not condemn others and keep going back to their past issues and faults. And look at them the way Christ looks at us. So just when God looks at us, you know, he looks at us just like we haven't sinned because we are justified. We have, you know, the righteousness of Jesus has been, you know, put on us, we are cloded with his righteousness. And so, you know, he looks at us that way. And, you know, God looks at us just like he looks at Jesus the same level he has placed us. He loves us the same way like he loves his son. So when we attitude towards them is to one that is loving, forgiving, kind, gracious, then they will also learn and it will also enable them to come to the knowledge of the truth and to know God as their personal savior. Yes, I hope that helps. Thank you. Over to you, Pastor Roshan. Thank you, Pastor Serina. Thank you. I'd like to add just a couple more thoughts in addition to what is already shared is Bible talks about that we cannot avoid offense, you know, in the Gospels. I think, Matthew, I forgot the reference. So offense is going to come away. And there's two ways, two things that I have learned personally in my life is one of my favorite scriptures about David in the Bible is from first Samuel chapter 30 verse five. If you read about David's story from first Samuel chapter 16 and 17 onwards and all the way to 30 is so many things that happens in his life, how his, his own people betray him, they want to kill him. How is, you know, the person that he looked up to as a king, who was a king, wanted to kill him, etc. And there's this verse in first Samuel 35 verse five says, David found his strength in the Lord, David strengthened himself in the Lord. And so I understand that it's very easy for us to score scriptures and not, you know, because when we go through life, it's a different scenario. But, but something about that prayer or that line, it's always stayed with me that David found his strengthened himself in the Lord. And I think we can always find a strength in the Lord no matter what the situation of the circumstances. And we go back to his word and I'm sure, you know, the Holy Spirit is always there to help us comfort us, guide us, teach us, etc. Okay. All right. Thank you, Esther. I hope that answered your question. Yes, it did. Thank you, Pastor Nancy, Pastor Selena and Pastor Roshan. Indeed, Pastor Selena, you have given the not only just not to get offended, but how we pray about them because end of the day, it is like they treat the others also the same way with a drop of a hat. It may not be a major issue, like very small trivial day to day issues also when they are when they are asked to explain they say you also did the same thing. So it's right that we have we know and we have to forgive, forget and pray about them so that they their conversations with people are seasoned and are acceptable to God. So thank you so much, pastors. Thank you, Esther. Okay. We have a question from Rosalind. If a person is demon possessed and refused to recognize and also refuses to get prayed for deliverance, how can that one be delivered? Can the pastor do the spiritual warfare at home for that person's deliverance? The follow up question by Rosalind at the bottom says especially demons like rebellious spirit and homosexuality. Okay. Let me read the question for our benefit. If a person is demon possessed and refused to recognize and also refuses to get prayed for deliverance, how can that one be delivered in the past to do the spiritual warfare at home for that person's deliverance as a second half of the question. So once again, I'm going to request one of our faculties to respond to that question, please. Yes. Thank you, Pastor Ocean. Thank you Rosalind for that question. As we can recall, we've learned a couple of things in the believers authority course where there is a 10 step model by Pablo Botari, where he recommends a couple of things that need to be done in order to help a person who is demon possessed. So the initial steps of course is to be able to communicate with them, speak with them to bring them to a place of willingness if they are still functional cognitively and they can understand us. Now, there are instances where they absolutely will not be able to understand because they are that, you know, sort of oppressed by the demons. But in the case where they are able to understand, I think it helps to actually speak to discuss and to bring them to a place where they are willing and willingness in the case of deliverance is very important because demons will not leave if the person is unwilling. And so, you know, that aspect is important. Now, having said that, there is an aspect of a spiritual warfare prior to or during the process when, you know, we are ministering to this particular person where we can be on our knees and fight out for them. So, you know, that, that greatly helps. And in addition to that, the willingness of the person. Now, let's say, you know, we've done all of this, and the person is still not willing. In fact, in that 10 step model, you know, he says that if when we speak to them, right, like after all this we speak to them and they say, No, I don't want to be free. Sadly, there, we will have to stop our, you know, trying to deliver that person at that stage, because it's not going to help. We can try all we want to cast out that demon. But because of the will of the person still wanting, you know, the same life, it's going to be very difficult for us to get that demon out. So, yes, some thoughts Rosalind, I hope it helps. Thank you. Thank you, Pastor Nancy. Rosalind, do you have a follow up question? Did that answer your question? All right. Okay. Thank you once again. Right. We have a question from Jafina regarding Don chapter nine verse 39 says Jesus said for judgment I have come into this world and that those who do not see may see and that those who see may be made blind. I'm just going to continue reading a couple more scriptures for context. Okay. Then some of the Pharisees who were with him heard these words and said to him, Are we blind also Jesus said to them, If you were blind, you would have no sin. But now you say we see therefore your sin remains. So I've read from verse 39 to 41 for context. Question Jafina's post is what kind of judgment does Jesus talk about here? Pastor Selena, may I request you to respond to this question, please? Sure, Pastor Roshan. Thank you, Jafina for your question. So here in this is in John, the Apostle John is recording these words of Jesus as part of that men were divided over Jesus somewhere accepting him and some were rejecting him. And this is one way Jesus brought judgment into this world by being a dividing line because some were accepting him and some were rejecting him. So when he walked on this earth, there was like a dividing line, some basically accepted and some rejected. So here, you know, when he's talking about Jesus is speaking metaphorically about spiritual blindness and sight rather than literal sight or, you know, so he uses the idea of sight and blindness to illustrate a spiritual truth. So here the judgment of spiritual understanding is brought about because Jesus is referring to the judgment of spiritual understanding or perception. Those who acknowledge their spiritual blindness that, you know, they are spiritually blind, they need for God and they accept Jesus as their Messiah, they are given spiritual sight. They are led into the truth or the truth is manifested or known to them. On the other hand, those who claim to have spiritual insight and knowledge but reject Jesus remain spiritually blind like the Pharisees and the Sadducees. So there were many people who desired to know Jesus, they had a need for God, they kept following Jesus and, you know, they accept him as the Son of God, as the Messiah. They were given spiritual sight by the others who like the Pharisees, the scribes, the teachers of the law who are just waiting to, you know, judge him, condemn him and to put him away. You know, even though they had spiritual insight or knowledge, they knew the Old Testament Torah, they knew the laws, but they rejected Jesus, they will remain spiritually blind. So it's basically the judgment of spiritual understanding that is mentioned here. I hope that helps, Jeffina. If you have anything else to ask, you can feel free to ask. Over to you, Pastor Goshen. Thank you. Thank you, Pastor Selina. Thank you, Jeffina, for that question. Thank you, everyone, for asking your questions. We have come to the end of the mentoring hour. We do not have any questions that's left out to be followed on next week. So thank you all once again for joining for this week's mentoring. I hope that there was something that you have learned from today. 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