 I'm going to call the meeting to order of the License Hearing and Public Safety Committee July 27th, 2022 Girl Calls All the persons are Feldy. I'm here Eddie Ackley here all the person Dean Decker here all the person Joe Heidemann here all the person Amanda Salza here We're all in attendance Please stand for the Pledge of Allegiance. Allegiance if you're able I pledge allegiance to the of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible Introduction of committee members Start we'll move around the table finish up Okay, I'm Barbara Feldy I am the chair of the License Hearing and Public Safety Committee and Alderperson Ford District 1 Betty Ackley vice chair of the committee and Alderperson for District 4 Alderman Joe Heidemann 10th district Amanda Salazar district 3 Dean Decker district 6 John Adams, Louise Wrench Kathy Hoffman city attorney's office Kurt Semple patrol captain with the Chevrolet police department Eric Mattiano Archie Approval of maybe yeah, we're gonna say I always look for David. No, he doesn't like the attention We're gonna do approval of the minutes from July 13, 2022 So moved Any discussion All those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed nay Chair votes aye. Motion carries items for discussion our own number 41, 22, 23, 7, 8, 22 to chief of police Christopher Domingolf he pursuant to section 54 through 65 municipal code submitting the quarterly report showing the benchmark measurements for the police department for the period commencing April 1 2022 and ending June 30th, 2022 Alright take it away Alright see I'm here on behalf of the chief So you have some of the highlights in front of you on the sear if you've had a chance to review that I think just a few things to maybe Call attention to One is that violent crime is up By numbers that in Cheboygan is primarily driven by assaults and We did some did some looking into what was driving that For us this year and it's primarily been school related assaults and so What we've heard from our school resource officers is that as kids are back in school they've kind of forgotten some of the social skills over the last couple of years and But it is in line with Previous years before the pandemic shut schools down So that seems to be what's sort of driving that as a return to what was happening previously This school related assaults property crimes are also up. That's primarily driven by thefts We have had a couple of groups of juveniles that are responsible for a good proportion of our thefts including thefts of vehicles I Think when you compare it to other municipalities around the state I think are really all of our crime in general, but certainly property crimes are quite a bit lower and especially vehicle thefts Which other jurisdictions are experiencing really much bigger problems with that and in Virtually every vehicle theft case that we've had they could have been prevented by someone not leaving their keys in their car So so that's still unfortunately a driver of that as well. We're a caring community What's that? Trusting Well, I suppose sometimes we're the victims of our own success what people feel safe, right? Yeah, I tend to not engage in practices that they would if they didn't feel this way Regarding traffic crashes so you can see as of the quarterly report there was an increase of 27 crashes I can tell you that as of Monday they have equalized again. So we're exactly on pace with crashes last year and Another good thing to report from that is that our traffic stops and arrests are up Over previous years and so I know many of you hear complaints from your constituents about traffic related issues So we are I think doing more to focus on that this year Done And then the chief also mentioned about involuntary commitments. So these are the chapter 51 mental health commitments are up as well and so I'm going to point out that that's something that still occupies a considerable amount of our time and increasingly over previous years I have a question. Yeah, have we hired anybody for like a ride-along for mental health issues or To come to the scene and help handle it So the what they call the co-responder model where it's a police officer and a social worker or a mental health professional that respond together That project the county has approved money for it And I think there are still discussions taking place about what the city's role in that should be and whether you all as the council want to Contribute to that program as well. So it's in the works. We've been working on it for sometimes Yeah, that's why I asked because I know Talking about it time to stop talking and sir So I do think there's progress so the chief knows a lot more about it than I do Also Difficult that's what Tony comes in right the social service. Yep, so they contract with a service that that does The screening for mental health and voluntary commitments called Vista care And I think they feel like they probably have the staff that would or they would be able to bring the staff in through that I think that's what their plan is Is to use this to care for and they do have some staff there kind of around the clock as it is Okay Any other questions I guess what was alarming to me was the increase of the Bounds in the schools. Okay. If you took shaboy, okay Are can we pinpoint what schools they are do we know? Where the where our resources to be addressed? I think that they probably are I mean I think we are addressing it so Primarily, it's the high schools where we've had assaults and it's both high school all three high schools really and we have school resource officers in both of those schools and There's security guards down at a to downtown and at the schools as well for this school from the school district and I don't I don't know that it's Again, I think it's in line with what was going on before the pandemic and even with some of the just the change in behavior that The schools and the teachers and the counselors and our school resource officers have been dealing with where kids have forgotten how to be social creatures Yeah, okay. So in comparison if you took shaboy again, Appleton Green Bay Are they all the same? Are all the school districts other than I mean it's shaboy been standing out as one of them. That's the highest I don't think so. No, no, I don't have numbers from those agencies, but I I Would be shocked if we weren't doing better than okay And my other question would be now the school board gets this information too, right? Do they do they have a plan of attack or do they have something that they're going to improvise so that our students are safer? Or does that not happen so I I know that there have been discussions with our department the school district health and human services with their juvenile justice Social workers and the district attorney's office about how to respond to and how to make sure that there's accountability for kids who are you know causing and this goes both in the schools and Like with some of the property crimes that I was talking about that, you know kids are out committing crimes and stealing vehicles and things like that so I Would say that there's I think that we're pretty coordinated with the school district as far as our response. I think that there are Maybe different approaches from Health and Human Services at times about Some of the resources that they can offer But I think that you know we we communicate pretty well with all of them as far as how to respond and really which Which kids are the ones that really are in most need of intervention? Okay, so then after looking at these numbers at the end of the school year going into the next school year They're already have things in place that are going to try to address those issues and make that make those school savers. I Don't know I'm in a position to answer that question for you So the the schools are in our criminal investigation division the school resource officers That's not my division and so what discussions they've had as far as plans for the fall. I don't know I know that truancy was an issue that they were Working to address and making sure that that there was a procedure that everyone was following For that but if if you want I can certainly have either the chief or Jim visa to get back to you Appreciate it. Thanks. Sure Okay, any other questions all right, we're going to move on to oh, I think oh that was some information only No, no, we have to accept it. Don't wait. Okay. I need a motion to file it Second any discussion now Right all in favor say aye. I was nay Chair votes aye motion pass Number seven our own number of thirty nine twenty two twenty three seven eighteen twenty two by fire chief pursuant to section 5564 of the municipal code submitting the quarterly report benchmark measurement For the fire department for the period commencing April 1 2022 and ending June 30th 2022 Okay, thank you chair. So you y'all have the information and I have see just a couple highlights our year-to-date call volume is 603 incidents higher than it was last year in 2021 which is a 21% increase. So that's quite a bit Couldn't tell you exactly why probably because we're back to life and everybody's doing the stuff they would have been doing in 21 but I Rescue or EMS calls have increased excuse me by 16% And I think that's a trend that will continue to see Moving forward in the future. It's just the way of the world now Which is going to be and it'll have an impact on our services sooner than later So down the road will be having discussions on that y'all look nice today. Don't forget Fire inspections have also increased. We're back to getting out in the road with COVID Winding down. So that's great news Obviously, that's our fire perfect prevention. It's our bread and butter. So we want to make sure we're safe Well, the one thing you will notice that's down is our training hours for EMS And I'll give you a presentation after for about Two-minute presentation here on our live burn. So that really took a lot of our time And we knew that so we had to make some adjustments in our schedule But we appreciate everybody's support. So we will be back back on track getting our EMS training hours back up here over the next couple quarters and Due to the higher call volume and the increase in calls for our staff It's been tough meeting that benchmark of 90% Efficiency with our our response time and it's just because we're having multiple calls coming in all the time So crews are responding from a previous call, which is might be further away than where the station would normally, you know It's located if they were quarters That's just going to continue to happen until we can Kind of iron things out and and slow down with the call volume I'll be glad to answer any other questions. Otherwise, that's not Pretty big percentage of it is a huge huge increase and Luckily the guys aren't complaining just yet How are you finding it's working with a new memorial? Yeah, yep for sure it increases our Transport time, but really it's insignificant. We're it's just next door. So we're still able to respond as normal, but Yeah, it's a nice hospital. So we'll see how things go. It's still new So getting some peaks out haven't been there yet back on wood We talked about this last time bar I'm trying to stay away from those places All right, any questions? All right, I need a motion Thank you. I'm going to accept and fail said second Is there any of the discussion on it all in favor say aye Bosnay Share votes aye passes All right number eight Presentation to the committee regarding live burn in training presentation only yep, so thank you chair and So I asked Carly just put a quick PowerPoint together just So you guys can see what one of the main reasons Kathy if you don't mind Do you know how to do that? Do I just click to the next one? No, you can click out here Okay, so we had a house on the south side don't ask me things to address but it was near stall We're the just south of the industrial park or the business park that we have So I just wanted to give you a quick little tip because people don't know what we do at a live burn So you'll see here We have to obviously be safe so we Surround the burn rooms with plywood and drywall when it's appropriate we seal all the openings and holes This window here you'll see has plywood over and then it's actually this window Where we could open it up and ventilate or use it if we were burning in another area to ventilate Simulating firefighters busting windows and doors But that's how we do it Something I didn't know this is called Excelsior. I'm not a farm guy. I'm a city guy I didn't even know what Excelsior was but a statement, but apparently it's some head burns very well quickly so The guys are here we obviously in a burn like this because there's live fire You want to be safe so before every scenario and and we would do four or five six scenarios each burn day Because each ship would work So you want to before every single scenario because we're changing them You want to have a little powwow make sure everybody's safe and then you debrief afterwards So this is one of the debriefs Seeing how the burns went how the scenario went and then the guys talked about it and see if there's things we need to improve These pictures here are So this is we have ventilation So this crew would be simulating going to the roof or breaking a window poppin You know to try to get the smoke out But when we do ventilation we do a coordinated kind of effort where you would send in your attack crew Which is this middle slide with the hose line and then while they try to find the room the fire room The crews are ventilating when requested if you ventilate too early You could spread the fire and burn the crews going in and that's where you lose a lot of firefighters Throughout this country and then this that one room. I showed you this is when you know This is kind of end the beginning when the fires first starting But it and then you'll smoke up the it looks great then in a couple seconds You wouldn't be able to see anything because of the smoke This is just showing you what tools they use the tick They're going in with the hose line and then they bust the door in that's what we would do at an actual scene Just here's some action photos of the smoke Textings for thermal imaging. Yeah thermal imaging camera. Sorry. Yeah And Yeah, so this is one of our crew members who lit the fire he actually has a hose line in here to control the fire so it doesn't get out of out of hand out of control and Allowing the crews to come in and search And then this is just what it looks like you can see the smoke layer here. This guy's advancing the hose We also had a mannequin in there to simulate a victim so they would have to find the victim and bring the victim out And then here this is what we refer to as a backup line So in one scenario, you might have the crews going in on the front with the hose line This backup crew might be coming in you can see the two hoses here. This is that backup line And then we also practice incident command So we rotated our crews in there to simulate like they were the incident commander and learning what it was like And what things they needed to do to not only put the fire out but keep the crew safe and get help when you needed it this is just simulating a Ventilation true on the roof and quite the handsome fella in the jacket there So Just some action photos. Are you with me Dave? All right just some action photos of the house You would be amazed at how much heat this I wish I would have taken a picture of where our cars were But we had to move our vehicles back because it got so darn hot and we were already back far enough It just is amazing. So This just was just a little action video And Even where this distance is you're burning you have to be careful. We're not here So really that's it and then I just wanted to say thank you for all your support You guys have been very great for us. So I really appreciate it so Glad to ask any questions if you haven't so the venting is that more for vision so that there Clears the smoke so you can see the fire better or is that the main reason? Yes, and then also it also clears the heat out. So Even though we're in our gear If we were not to ventilate that we a we're we're gonna start overheating ourselves You wouldn't be able to see where the fire is you truly cannot see your hand in front of your face I know in movies and like this picture here. You could see the smoke in the background That's because it's upstairs. It's deceiving if soon as he hits the top stair, you can't see anything It's just so you have to ventilate to get that out But if you ventilate prematurely you're gonna spread the fire and it will burn fire fires And any victims that may or may not be in there So the key is to kind of what we call a coordinated attack You want to ventilate when that hose line is in there so they can keep fire and check Get the smoke out and now save the property content for victims Yeah, when did you do that? We did three different Evolutions in May at the end of May and then we burned that house So those two live video streams were us burning that house. That was the first week in June we had town of Wilson assisting us and Training with us town of Sheboygan and Kohler, which was great Because again with the more we work with the county at a fire like this we can't We can't do it ourselves. We just don't it's labor-intensive. So the more they train with us the better it is for all of us So, but thank you a years ago when my mom moved out of the house. We lived out on Sheboygan Falls Falls fire department or the town of Falls came said we'd like to control burns in the house and We said well sure boy, not a big deal. And you know, they look they said we're gonna do this one And if you have any family members that want to watch that's fantastic So I went out there and my brother was there and it went from a control burn for a certain area And then the whole house went up. So They get a little better because otherwise they weren't gonna get to see the house it was like They got into an interior walls and they said however that house was built There was no stopping it and I meant and these guys from the town of Falls are all went From, you know, a training exercise that well, we'll just watch the house burn down We were we were pretty fortunate all the evolutions we did There was one close one But we were a little That's what can happen happen easily That excelsior stuff I I recall There was a fire about 40 years ago because we have the business american excelsior And we had a business alongside the railroad tracks and some young kids found a railroad flare And tossed it in there and that's And that stuff goes up and that place went up just like that too. Yeah I remember that fire. It was We didn't have kids that did that back then They probably went to the same school where the incidents are Yeah All right, that was information only is there any questions on any other comments All right, thanks dude. Thank you All right, number nine our own number 42 22 23 718 22 vice city clerk submitting various likes and Application it's actually only one application on this arrow. We're recommending holding it for further investigation and discussion with the applicants They would be have an issue to them yet anyway, so It's fast taco and uh, there are some issues about What other premises are going to be because they also have a drive-through and and At least in the past this committee has been concerned about drive-through alcohol as is the police department or stuff I remember talking about it. I was just gonna say didn't we talk about fast? I think we probably have a solution But we're gonna call them all right um And I need a motion to hold Until they figure out what what should be done so second Is there any other questions or comment all in favor say I pose me Chair votes. I motion carries Number 10 our own number 42. No 43 22 23 718 22 by city clerk submitting a license application. This is the application for la casina familiar and we're recommending that it be granted all right Any questions for attorney All right, I need a motion I'm going to grant the license second Comment to anything all right all in favor say I What was the name? Chair votes. I motion carries um next meeting date will be august 10th 2022 Okay mark that on your calendar A motion to adjourn Motion to adjourn second All in favor say I