 Well, I'd like to welcome to the show noted expert in creating GPTS, Bode Grimm. How are you doing today, Bode? I'm doing really good. However, I would like to point out I put a disclaimer at the top of our show notes that says that I am not an expert and I know not even a fraction of a percentage about AI. So yeah, I just want to get that. I just want to set a tone for people who might actually know about this stuff. Well, what kind of fun would it be if I didn't yank your changes to start off? But you may or may not have heard from Bode before. Bode is the host of the awesome Kilowatt podcast, which is broadcast all about electric vehicles. And as I like to say, he's informative, he's intelligent, and he's also ridiculous, self-effacing and makes me laugh every single time. So big fan, big fan. Yes. Well, thank you very much. I'm also a fan of yours. I don't have as many nice things to say about you as you do about me, but we'll get through it. Well, that's good. That's good. OK, so everybody's heard of chat GPT. If you haven't heard of it by now, you've been under a rock somewhere. But I've started to hear about this thing called GPTs, not chat GPT, but GPTs and something about you can make them. And you said you could teach me how to make a GPT. And I don't even understand what it means to make a GPT. So on a very basic level, very basic again, I'm not an expert in this, but on a very basic level, this is just a chat bot that does something specific for you. So if you are a person who is really interested in Marvel comments, comics, and you upload a bunch of information about certain Marvel comics that you're most interested in, you can create, I don't know, a little game show, a trivia game show, or you can just ask it questions and win bar bets or whatever. It's really a tool that you can use in your personal life, but it's also a tool that you can use for business. And we'll talk about this a little bit later, but I created a GPT for the HPV vaccine that gives people who interact with it information about the HPV vaccine and why they should get it. So you give it information to learn from. And so it's a very narrow, large language model. Then about that specific set of data that you hand it. Yes, when we when we get to the point of actually doing the demonstration, I'll show you that it doesn't it's not always narrow. Sometimes it reaches out beyond where it should. And you have to reel it back in. It's like a toddler where you have to set boundaries. So could you give it everything I've ever written on podfeed.com? Well, it's funny that you mentioned that because I'm in our example today, we're going to create a GPT for podfeed.com sweet sweet. That was not a setup that was it was not spoken. That is that's fun. Yeah. OK. So where do you start with this whole thing? So I'm going to enlarge this. Oh, there he goes right away. He's letting people know that we are recording video. We haven't we do not promise to produce the video. No, I'm going to produce the video. I'll let you know. But my job is going to get Bodey to not just say, as you can see here, but describe what he's doing, because we want this to work for the audio podcast too. The good news is I only have an audio podcast. So there's there's little chance I'm going to do that, but I might. All right, Allison, are you able to see the screen? Yeah. So where are we? You're starting at OpenAI and you're logged in to chat GPT for, which is the paid for service that I can't sign up for right now because they've halted subscriptions because they have too many people wanting to throw money at them. Right. That is a that is a really good disclaimer to start with is you can't actually use any of these unless you're already signed up. You can't create them and you can't view them. So it's a little bit of a bummer, but I can tell you since OpenAI had their big AI day presentation, my experience as a chat GPT for user went from being incredible to being terrible. So. Oh, because too many people. Too many people. Yeah. OK, so it's probably good that they've slowed down while they scale up. Yeah. And then they had a little thing where they fired their CEO and then brought him back and replaced the board. They're probably really busy, I'm guessing. And some people are going to be working through Christmas. OK, so chat GPT for is 20 bucks a month if and when you are able to join back in. And I'm sure we will be able to eventually. Sure. So what are we going to? What are we going to learn about today? What's what is a GPT? Well, a GPT is a. OK, what's what's break down the G, the P and the T? G is for generative, which refers to the GPT's ability to generate text, not just text that just not like like random text, right? Like I think there was an app for the Apple to like Delilah or something like that. That thing could create random bits of text. But this is text that's relevant about the conversation you're having with the GPT. It's very human like. And I think this is part of the reason why people are so worried about AI. Next, we have the P, which is pre-trained, which means that it's trained on just that enormous data set that covers different languages and different formats of data. And then you have the transformer part, which talks more about like it's just a neural net and that neural net kind of feeds in. And that also helps with the context of the conversation. OK, so generative pre-trained transformer and the transformer is taking here's all this great data set. I'm going to generate some stuff and I've got the transformers through the neural network. I'm going to spit out some stuff according to my moronic understanding of it. Yes. OK, OK. All right. So why would I want to create a GPT? Well, I can give you a few examples why I created a GPT. You would want to create one because you're a nerd and you would really enjoy doing it because it's actually a lot of fun. I created a GPT. My first one I created in my real job on the firefighter. And one of the things that I struggle with and I struggle with it, even as a podcaster, as soon as you put a mic in front of my face, whether it's attached to a fire radio or whether it's attached to this microphone that I'm talking on, I freeze up by panic and I have a really hard time. So that's honestly been one of the things that has kept me from getting promoted. It's not the the the ability that I have as a as a commander when we go on scene or whatever or to talk on the radio. But it's my my panic that happens when I actually address a mic. And I also have a little bit of a stutter when I get really nervous. Then it's a it's a struggle to be honest with you. So these these are all good reasons to become a podcaster, right? Oh, yeah. Well, yeah. Also, I don't like being on camera and I've got another podcast that I'm working on more exclusively beyond camera. So I'm facing your fears, folks. There you go. OK, so you wanted to create a GPT, though, for firefighters. Is that right? Yeah. So in in the fire service, we have and police service as well. We have something called incident command. So when we go on with just a standard house fire, the first arriving unit on scene doesn't matter if it's a battalion chief or an ambulance or a fire engine. They assume command of that scene and then everybody has to do what they say. And there is a certain way to present your information. And you when you when you when you give your on scene report, that needs to be done in a certain format. And then when you address other units that are incoming, that needs to be done in a certain format. And you can practice that all day long driving in your car. But it doesn't give you any sense of, oh, this is real life. So I created a GPT that goes through dispatches, just like our dispatch does. It gives pertinent information, just like our dispatch does. It assigns random units to the call. And then it also assigns those random units to show up at different times. And I never know which units are going to show up. I use Dolly three in this GPT to give me a view five miles out from the call that we're going to. So sometimes you might see smoke, sometimes you don't. And then I use Dolly to show the house that's on fire. When you arrive on scene, Dolly also shows the interior of the building when you're inside. And it just kind of gives me an ability to practice. But then also I'm able to hand this off to somebody else in our department or we're able to do it as a crew and we can practice and learn as a crew. OK, so there's been a big leap here. It was a generative pre-trained transformer. So I can type in, you know, how big is the lump of coal? And it's supposed to answer the question in the way the data set has trained it. But all of a sudden you're talking about visual pieces and timing and things like that. That sounds like a completely different beast than what I thought a GPT could do. Oh, yeah, this thing, your imagination is your only limit. As far as I can tell at this point, like you'll bump up against some things. Like, for instance, when I told GPT, hey, give me a two story house on that's on fire. And the GPT will actually or Dolly, based on the information the GPT gives it, will actually create a close enough image to what you get, what's described to you in the beginning of the scenario. And, you know, it's it's sometimes you have to tell it to go back and go ahead. I mean, I understand it can draw pictures. Dolly three can do can do pictures, but I'm having trouble understanding how and maybe that's what you're going to talk through, how I this this GPT is going to give us something time based. So. It was a little video I'm going to see what it. No, OK, so yeah, that's OK. I think I got you. So what I did was I broke it up into phases. So phase one is your dispatch and that will give you all of your units in your address. Is this what you're asking? So you're going to see you're going to show me a list, a typed out list is is dispatch and the units that have been dispatched are engine one on one, one or two, one or three latter two or one battalion chief three or one. Correct. And in my GPT, it will give you an address that's in Phoenix. It's probably not real. And then. When you're when you've obtained that information, you just hit next. There's there's some other stuff below there, Allison, that's only relevant to firefighters, so we don't need to talk about that. And then it gives us that he's just typing in next, next, next into this model that he so if I don't stop it at each little phase, it will run the entire call for you. OK, you won't get to do anything. No, no, it's not. It's not. So it's not a good way to learn. So in the second phase, it'll give you the pertinent information. This is the caller report, seeing flames from a second story window. The house unsure if residents are home, right? So that gives the the incident commander an idea of based on the time of day and based on, you know, whether it's a weekend or not, if somebody is somebody home, are they not home? We don't know. And then it creates this image as somebody who's trying to practice. What is it you're practicing hitting next? No. So this is something that we do in most of the time we do this in a in a classroom type scenario. So we're we are being vocal about what we see. So when it comes to the dispatch, somebody will read the dispatch to you when it comes to the pertinent information, the battalion or the incident commander will be able to read that pertinent information. And then the next phase is it shows a picture from about five miles out. Now, Alison, if you could do me a favor and explain the picture that's on the screen. OK, it's looks like a bunch of houses in a suburban neighborhood with what's probably a nuclear explosion size fire going on. It's pretty it's pretty intense. Right. GPT goes hard on the scenarios like there. If I saw this, I would be immediately calling a first alarm fire because something else besides the house is on fire. Yeah, so you have to take all of this oil refinery. Yeah, you have to take all of this with a little bit of a grain of salt. Or you just tell GPT, hey, that's too much. Tone it down a little bit. OK. And I promise what if you're training yourself doing this, all I see you doing is hitting next. Are you saying in your head, OK, I'm going to do a four alarm fire or number one alarm fire, whatever you said on this, or are you trying to give responses that you would give in real life, like in your head? So, yes, for me, if I'm doing this by myself, I will just go through as as if I'm really going to fight the fire, right? And I'm saying this out loud as if I'm practicing saying it into a mic. The next phase for this would be to type it in. But there's an even better part of this that I was going to get to later. But we might as well talk about it now. Is GPT, Chet GPT has an app so I can go into the app. I can turn on the the voice to text mode or just you can just have a conversation with the GPT. I don't even know if it's voice to text. And I can tell all I can tell the GPT all of this information and it will give me feedback. It's at this point, it's not great feedback, but it will give me feedback. OK, I think I get the sense of what you're doing with this. It's it's pretty crazy. Do you want to keep going with the with the fire safety training thing that you've built here? Do you want to start talking about how how do you build something like this? No, I think we should get to how do we build something like this? I did you want to play. I did practice some things, like I mentioned earlier. So when you're in the GPT page, there's on the left side of the screen, you have your GPT. So you sometimes it's chat GPT and Dolly and maybe something else that you've used. So it's it's got what you've used most recently on the left side of your screen. And then underneath those items is an Explorer tab. And then you have all of the GPTs. And these are pretty much all the ones I've created since I have been gracious to 40 of these when I had chicken in them. Oh, no, this is like all the way back to April when Sierra, my daughter convinced me to sign up for the paid version. Wow. OK. All right. So pretend we're just coming in from scratch here. We've got a little pencil next to chat GPT at the top or we've got Explorer, right? Right. So we want to go to Explorer. OK. Once we build a new one. Yep. And we want to at the top, it says my GPTs and then create a GPT. OK, for a specific purpose. Yep. We're going to click. Oh, it's beta. It is beta and it's pretty good, but it definitely has some hiccups. So now that we're in the chat or created GPT section, you have an option to create or configure with create. It'll just ask you questions. It'll like walk you through creating a GPT, which is great, because if you have no idea what you're doing, configures almost completely useless to you. OK, so you basically just hit create GPT and we've got now we've got create and configure our two options. And it looks like there's a pane on the left for creator, configure. And then on the right, we've got a preview. So we're looking at GPT builder for create. Correct. So it's it welcomes you says, hi, I'll help you build a GPT. And basically all we're going to type in here is we're going to say what we want to make. So I'm just going to say I'm going to keep this very simple, like three minutes to make a GPT for www.podfeed.com. OK, nothing else. We don't have to tell it what we want to do with it. Nope. I mean, once you kind of get your head around how these things are made, then, yeah, you add a lot like my my fire commander GPT. It's lengthy and but this is going to be simple. So they're going to so all he all he did was type into a little field. He said, I want to make a GPT for podfeed.com says, great. How about naming it podfeed helper? Does that sound good to you? How does that sound to you? I listen. That sounds fabulous. So you just type yes as an answer. So you have just having a conversation with it. Just a basic conversation. OK. And then it's going to go off. So it's updating the GPT. It just went through 18 years of blog posts. Well, OK, so that is that's another thing that we have to talk about. But if you look here on the right on the preview side, Allison, we have some added things. It says, tell me about the latest tech news on podfeed.com. We didn't add this. It did it itself. No. It says, how do I start a podcast? Discuss the latest, excuse me, latest gadget reviews on podfeed and explain technology, explain a technology topic from podfeed.com. So these are suggested questions you could ask the GPT at this point. Correct. And it's just a way to get somebody started in the process. And while we were talking over here on about the preview stuff, we go back to the configure side or the create side and it created a logo for your podfeed. Helper GPT. OK. One thing I like about this is it clearly knows that it's a podcast blog because podfeed.com they could have come back and said, OK, we've got your podiatrist here. Right. It obviously went through the data in some way to figure out that it was a podcast, got a little laptop, it's got headphones and a bunch of microphones. So OK, that's cool logo. That's perfect. OK, so we're going to answer one more question and then we'll stop this particular GPT and the question we're going to answer is asking now let's refine the role and goal of podfeed helper considering its focus on podfeed.com. What specific types of informations are tasked? Do you envision it handling, for example, would it provide detailed summaries of podcast episodes or technical or offer technical advice or both? So Allison, I'll let you. OK. So a summary of podcast episodes is kind of silly since I give everybody summaries of podcast episodes. What about answering questions about what kinds of things I've reviewed, maybe like, OK, he's writing answering questions about product and software reviews. Sure. A lot of people say, I don't know how to find out whether you ever talked about X and I always figured, well, there's a search bar. You could stick it in there, but the search isn't that great. So you can the GPT doesn't always end up being great. But it if over time, I will say it can get better and it can get worse. So in this create mode, we have created this GPT, right? It's fantastic. It's going to work great. However, over time, it's going to expand what it's what it was initially built for. And sometimes that could be good. Oftentimes, I found that it's not. It kind of just goes right off the rails. And you have to create another one. And another negative part of this GPT builder is when we navigate away from this, all of the stuff that we typed in on how we want to set that up. This is all just just disappears. So does it remember that? It might remember it, but you can't go back and be like, how how do I answer these questions? So you it's almost easier at that point rather than going through and trying to figure out how to change it through chat to start all over. Oh, wow. OK. All right. So now it's asking us, what should we avoid? And I kind of like that last thing it said there. It says this could include avoiding technical jargon. No, we love technical jargon jargon. How about no topics outside of the scope of technology and podcasting? OK, let's copy that if you want. So is that all in this? Is that that's normal for pod feet, right? Right, I don't want to talk about anything outside of technology and podcasting. So this is how I get away with that. Instead of saying that, it said all questions. Oops. All questions. Out. Oh, I got my mic in front of my keyboard. I can't see. Oh, I hate that. So you're you're he's writing out what he doesn't, what this thing should not talk about. All questions outside of what you'll find on pod feet.com. What are verboten? Should result in a. Your mama joke. So all of my GPT's, except for the HPV one, because we're actually showing that to a client in with a your mama joke, and they are the most polite your mama jokes you'll ever see. OK, OK, so if anybody asks a vaccination question of pod feet.com, it'll say your mama, so whatever. Yeah, and they're usually very complementary. Every now and again, you'll get one that's not, but it's not even that bad weather worthy or anything. No, no, no, it's nothing like that. So over here, Allison, we have the preview while it's updating that we have the preview. If we practice inside this preview, it'll work, but for whatever reason, until you save it and go back into it, it doesn't work great. So we're going to save it. I mean, while you're building it, for sure, practice it. OK, but we're going to are we going to lose our create stuff right now? Yep, that's all we just lost it all. It's all gone. Yep. So if we go back into Explorer and we might and we go to edit a GPT. It says, welcome back. Can you are you able to see all this? Yeah, it's saying I just it's it's 10 minute time. It's lost. It's completely lost all the information completely. So if you look over here in the configure part of things, it does have information that it created for you. But you can't edit that. Oh, yeah, you can edit it. But I found that it's easier just to throw this out and do it the way you do it, because it just overruns you. But that's either here or there. We'll start that here in a minute. OK, so you're going to we're going to go look at the pod feed helper GPT. It exists right now. Yeah, we're ready. So I need to stop sharing that screen and share a different screen because. So am I going to be? Are you going to suddenly spring on me? I've got to think of a good question. Yeah. All right. What's the best way to use alt tags? So alt tags are the tags you put on images when you post them to social media so that they're available to screen readers. So let's see. The pod feed helper says using all tags effectively is important for both accessibility and SEO. I've never said that. OK, well, this is where this goes off the rails a little bit. Right. The first question. OK. So we said that and I'm going to it's given me a big old long answer. Yeah, I'm going to ask. Did you get this from? Did you get this from pod feed dot com? He's writing to it because it is literally still going. It's right in all kinds of nonsense. It's going it's doing research with Bing. Now it's searching your site. So what the people can't see is that it's coming up with the like a like a little search bar. It's not even a bar like a search circle or a pop up thing. Yeah. And it'll tell you what it's looking for. Now now it has, after I asked, did you get this from pod feed dot com? It has something that looks a little closer to what would be on Allison's website. Yeah. So what I love about this is it's like you told the kid to write a book report and the kid went to Wikipedia and copied and pasted it and you said, did you write this yourself? And then it goes back and goes, OK, I'll write it myself. Right. Correct. Right. So now it says things like descriptive content. The alt text should go beyond basic descriptions for instead of just dog include the dog's color actions or other unique attributes. Sounds like something I might have said. You know, the last one was me. It says incorporating humor because sometimes I like to put in little Easter eggs in my alt tag, so it very likely could have gotten that for me. Now, look, if you look down here, we have the little quote markers. OK, there's a little quote mark and it says where it got the information from get your get your content out to more people by adding. And then alternative text, alternative text. Oh, that's great. So that proves that it got some of this, at least from something I had actually written. Yeah. And now we're going to ask it, who won the 1986 Super Bowl? Oh, we should get a yo mama joke. We should. OK, OK, and it didn't. It's telling us it was the Chicago Bears. Correct. My favorite team. That's the that was put in there. Did you get this? Did you get this from podfeed.com? You should have a text expander snippet for that. Yes. OK, so since obviously it didn't get it from here, now it says doing research with Bing, now it switches it to researching the site podfeed.com. Correct. OK, it says it does not appear to be available about the 1986 Super Bowl. OK, why didn't it give us a yo mama joke? I do not know. This is and make you look silly on the podcast. Yeah, well, no, this is actually part of the the point is hopefully, hopefully when we do this the other way. It will be more consistent. OK, the other way. Yeah, so we're going to go to we're going to go back to explore. So the first way we did it was we did create, but the other ones configure. Right. Correct. And. The internet. Live demos. This is this is the best, right? I feel like Steve Jobs. Can everybody turn off your phone? All right, there you go. OK, so we're back to the created GPT button, which is going to open this on another screen that I won't be able to see. Right. Correct. So we'll go back. I got a lot of these open. So we're going to go back and share you with you the new one. OK. So this time we're going to go with configure and this is going to be different. Yeah. OK. So we're going to call the name field pod bot, pod bot, a description. And then instructions. OK, for descriptions, he's putting in all things pod feet dot com instructions. So I'm just going to say I want to create. A GPT for. Pod feet dot com. You don't have to give it all that W, W, W, you know, it's right. Yeah, yeah. It's an AI for crying out a lot of you wouldn't think so. But sometimes you do have to be kind of specific. You're not always like I was putting in weight wise cameras. And it was correcting it because in Apple's infinite wisdom was connected to Waze cameras and it still knew what it meant. OK. But then I was putting in wise cameras and it had no idea what I was talking about. And that was within two minutes of each other. So. Yeah. OK, so we've got a name description and then the instructions is going to be essentially like what we talked about before. So he's got I want to create a GPT for pod feet dot com. Don't give me any information that is not found on pod feet dot com. OK, so in theory, OK, now it's going to say if the question is not related, the information request is not related. Give us a yo mama joke. Correct. So just like what we did before, but it's under instructions. OK, so we're just filling out a little form instead of just being completely free form. Correct. And this is really this gives you a lot of flexibility if you find later. If you find out later that there's something not quite right, but you don't know where to go to fix it. If you have your instructions, you can just I move it all on to a text program, a text editor so that I don't have to. So I have to keep recreating it. Well, I keep recreating it. But also like if you accidentally delete a section and you haven't you haven't saved it somewhere else, you don't get it back. I mean, that makes sense. Try to control Z. But if you've already saved it, you're done. All right. So now you have to the next field is conversation starters. So tell me about Allison. Well, that's easy since there's a page called about me. Yeah, it'll figure that one out. Let's see what it does. So conversation starters and what do they what are they going to do? Is this just going to be always this going to be the kind of questions that you would show to somebody saying, here's some typical things you could ask the pod about the pod. Okay. Got you. Tell me something cool. Why not buy a wise cam? Change it to buy instead of but. That way it might make worse a little more sense. Nope. That's my fault. Okay. All right. He's putting in a fourth one here. Oh, who won the 1986 Super Bowl? All right. All right. So, all right. If we wanted to, you see this section here that says knowledge. We could upload PDFs. We could upload pictures. We could upload word docs so that it would be a little bit more accurate. So for my fire GPT, I have the entire volume to SOPs that we use, which is the standard set of guidelines. That's about an inch and a half or two inches thick of everything that we do for every situation. Okay. So use that yet a PDF of that or something that you submitted. Yeah. So I just submitted that and that's what it goes off of. And honestly, when you have that kind of stuff, it actually works a little better as well. I would think so because it's really specific. It's, I mean, that's, that's narrow, right? Right. Right. So we have capabilities, which we want to include, there's only three web browsing, Dolly E, Dolly, Dolly image generation and code interpretation. I don't mess with code interpretation, but folks who are fans of programming by stealth might find this interesting. Okay. And then these actions create new actions. What is that? That is something I do not understand. I do not have an authentication key, an API key. Let's get that part. Not something for today. Okay. Oh, no. Did you just back out and lose everything? Oh, no. Oh, no. You hit the wrong back button. Okay. Yeah, yeah. There we go. Okay. Share your screen again. It's popped away from me. Oh, okay. Okay. So we're, we're done with the configurator, which we've done. We've given it essentially the same questions we had before, but we wrote our own. Hey, you might want to ask this podbot these questions, but other than that, you've pretty much told it the same thing you did in create. Correct. Do we get to test it now? Yes. Actually, let me save this. So. So he's going to save, confirm. And this should let us see it as a standalone. All right. Here we are. Podbot. All things podfeed.com. And he clicked on tell me about Allison. So didn't have to type anything because we already had it in there. Would you like to read it? The creator and host of the no silicast of technology podcast at podfeed.com. All right. You're known for enthusiasm about tech. So. Yep. And it's got accessible in there. So yeah. That sounds like me. Oh, I recommend visiting podfeed.com for more details. Okay. He's written based on this information, give me a photo realistic. Uh-oh. Image of my friend. And he's going to say of Allison. Okay. So I did and. Huh. Yesterday. I'm sorry. I can't create photo realistic images of specific individuals. You might want to go to the website. Duh. This is where you have to get creative. What do you think. The creator of podfeed.com looks like. All right. I'll be curious to see if that works. Use. Dolly. Okay. What do you think the creator of podfeed.com looks like. So this actually. This actually worked. I'll see. Say yes. So it just said, I can't. I can create an image based on a general description, but it's important to note this will not be a depiction of Allison Sheridan or any specific individual associated with podfeed.com. I'm sure you want to do it. So I have podcast host. I had to, I did this three or four times yesterday. And it worked every single time. So. You know, that was one day ago. And there's Allison sitting in front of a mic. She's got a Mac. She's got two. That actually. I, that looks like pretty, pretty close to my, my, uh, microphone style. Yeah. Uh, I'm about. 40 years younger. So I'm liking that. And it's, but it's got the wrong, um, it's got the wrong, uh, pop filter and the microphone isn't plugged into anything. It's hanging out in space with no boom arm. Yes. And, uh, in the back, it's got a live, uh, Sign to let everybody know that you're live on the air, but it says live. So, you know, I've noticed that with Dolly. It can't spell. Like even when you spell the thing you wanted to, to, to write in there, it spells it wrong. Yeah. It can't spell. At all. I had to do a logo. Uh, I said, have some bare feet. And I wanted to say no silicast and, uh, technology podcast with an ever so slight, uh, Mac-dash by, or Apple bias. And it misspelled no silicast. It put like four L's in it. Yeah. Yep. So I have this other podcast that I don't know if I could talk about yet, but we created our logo with, uh, Dolly. And I had the ID, like Frankenstein, like six or seven Dolly photos, logos together to make ours work. But oftentimes it's spelled the name of the podcast wrong, despite the fact that we told it how to spell it. Okay. So, uh, he just asked it. Tell me about wise cams and should I buy one? And the advice says that you should definitely buy one because here's all the great reasons you should do it. So I think that one's, that is not from pod fee.com. So let's ask. Because that is definitely not my current advice. This says as of April, 2023 cameras, the wise cams were popular for all this different things. Okay. It says, I can't access to retrieve information directly from pod fee.com or confirm a specific contest available there. Yeah. My answer, my responses are on general knowledge. Hmm. That's kind of interesting. So I can tell you like I had, I created yours in the morning and then I created the document that I wrote up for the show in the afternoon and the morning answers were not as good as the afternoon answers. I do not know if it gets better over time. Okay. He wrote try searching pod fee.com for the answer. And we have now what looks like a religious painting of, from like, I don't know the 1400s. And this guy has got this, this brush pointed up, but he's pointing at what looks like a little closed window box from windows. Correct. So this must be what the pope sees when he eats. So this must be what the pope sees when he opens the computer. I guess so. So I mean, this was a spectacular failure, but over time you can play with this as, as you get a little bit more familiar with chat GPT and creating GPTs. You can play with this and the product that you get most of the time gets better and better and better. Like my, I showed my command GPT to my chiefs that met my department and they were blown away by it because that up until now, this is not a joke. Sometimes people would draw on a whiteboard or draw on a piece of paper. What you saw on a fire. It was not a, it was a very low tech way of doing these things. So despite the fact that both of these GPTs failed today, don't let that deter you from creating a GPT because it might, if you put the time and you put the energy in, you might get something pretty magical. So let's, let's be perfectly clear. They were mostly impressed that it drew cool pictures of fire. Yeah. Well, they were impressed that because it gives you the biggest thing is you, we have to keep, because when, when you go into a fire, you have to keep all of the units that are arriving on scene in your head. So you're not, not only are you telling your crew what to do, incoming units are radioing in that they're on scene or staged in a specific location. And you're assigning those units. And at the end of your, your scenario or real life fire, you need to relay all of that information back to the battalion chief who gets on scene and wants to know what you have and where everybody is. So all of that information is random. So you can't get stuck in a, you got this engine all the time, you get this ladder company all the time, you got this rescue all the time. It's all different. And it, it changes based on GPT's whim and, and the type of fire that changes and the information that you get back changes. So nobody has to be creative thinking of different ways to ask what feels like kind of the same question they've been training on all along. Obviously they're not creative. Like we are as firefighters, aren't that creative and there's software that will do something similar to this. You have to build your own scenarios, but it costs $5,000 just to start using it. And if you want any add-ons, it's more than that. And you got to buy a pretty beefy computer to make it work. So do you think that the success of that was based primarily on the fact that you were able to upload this very specific manual and that's what made it have good content to come back to you? No, I think, um, let me see if I can go to mine. I think the success, that is part of it, right? It stays within those rails, but I gave it very specific instructions when I did my, can you still see? Right. I don't want to get too deep back because we are getting low on time, but, but you can see, like I said, this is what you need to do on dispatch. And you can see all the stuff that it's required on dispatch. This is phase two. This is what you need to do everything. So you were real specific on your instructions. Very specific. I wanted it to be, have enough room to be creative and create a scenario that maybe we hadn't thought of before, but I didn't want it to go off the rails. And when I was using the GPT builder, every single time it went off the rails, you couldn't reign it in. Well, that's interesting. So the lesson is that configures a better way to go. Create might be a good way to start just to play with it, but configure gives you a little bit more control over where it's going to go because you can be so specific in those instructions and edit them and stuff. Yeah. And the biggest thing is, is later, if you find out that it's doing something you don't want it to do, you can go in and either create a new GPT and just copy and paste the instructions in, or you can, you can go in and you can try to edit it where you think you've gone wrong. And it's understanding of your instruction set. I wonder whether it gets better over time. Right now, did it instantaneously literally absorb all of the data from, I mean, I've written a lot. I write about 5,000 words a week and I've been writing for 18 and a half years. It can't have absorbed all that in the time that you hit go. No, I don't think it could have either. Yesterday it was doing very good. And this also has to do a lot with how busy it is. So I was doing it on a Sunday when I started. It was a Sunday at about six o'clock in the morning. And then when I went back to it, it was a Sunday about 738 o'clock at night. So I don't know how many people were on it at during that time. But also in the middle of the daytime, it airs out quite frequently. So it may just be that we're in a scenario where we have lots of people using it and it's just, it just throws up its hands, you know, freaks out, throws up its hands and crawls underneath a weighted blanket and says, I'm done for the day. Well, speaking of done for the day, I think I'm going to close this out here, but this is cool. I now understand what a GPT is, how to actually build one, what to start doing to try to learn to give it the right kind of instructions. And it makes me jealous that I can't get in yet and try it. But I guess it's good if it's getting hammered so heavily. And of course, like you said, the company's been through a little bit of weed bit of turmoil over the last couple of weeks. So this is very cool. I appreciate you teaching us this, Bode. Hopefully it was informative and not boring. I wasn't bored a bit. I never am when I'm talking to you. I think you should put that on your CV, never boring. Well, put it on, Allison is never bored when talking to me. I'll be very specific. There you go. All right. If people want to check out the Kilowatt podcast, where would they go? Just search for Kilowatt podcast in your pod catcher of choice. It's pretty, pretty simple. I have an email address that if you want to contact me because if you have questions and I didn't explain something very well, it's Bode. B-O-D-I-E at 918digital.com. That's great. All right. Thanks a lot, Bode. I appreciate it. Thank you, Allison.