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The opinions expressed are necessarily those of the speakers. Well, Governor Carvel, I think you were only the second Democrat to be elected Governor of Delaware in the last 56 years. I'd like to know what you think was the main factor in that remarkable victory. Mr. Haslund, that's a good question. I might say that probably one of the main factors in my election in Delaware in 1948 was the fact that our state Democratic Party had a strong progressive platform in education in improving the facilities of our state and perhaps in eliminating or offering to eliminate a very vicious anti-labor law. Well, didn't you stress the corruption issue at that time, and what's the state of that issue now? Well, that's a good question, sir. We did stress the election law issue, which had to do with the business of voting dead people and also perhaps the illegal use of ballots. You know, in Delaware we have five official ballots issued for every person who is registered. And actually, you can take these ballots, you can receive them outside of the voting place and go right in the voting place and vote an official ballot. And that we thought was wrong, it encouraged corruption, and we've been fighting strongly to have that law repealed for several years. Well, in view of the record of the Truman administration, what do you think the effect of the corruption issue is going to be nationally in the coming elections? Well, personally, I think the problems facing us today are perhaps somewhat different than they were in Delaware. Actually, we run into some dishonesty in government, and I feel that inasmuch as both parties encompass all of the people of the United States, we're bound to have dishonest people in both parties. And actually, I realize that in the best banks in the United States, we have people who are no doubt dishonest, we have embezzlement, and there's many times very little said about that. And I don't minimize the corruption. I think that when people are dishonest, they should be cleared out of government and properly punished. Well, Governor, your party is led by President Truman. He's a chief officer. It was under him that the corruption spread. Where do you start with the elimination of those responsible for this vast corruption? My feeling is that you start wherever the corruption exists, and you clean it up wherever you find it. I feel that President Truman will do that. How much of the responsibility for this do you place on the standard bearer of your party? Was his executives who permitted this corruption? Well, of course, that is a matter of opinion to some extent, because the President has under him over two and a half million civil employees, aside from the armed forces. And you could say that under the presence of some great national bank that there's a certain dishonesty that occurred, and naturally it's cleared up just as soon as it occurs, and sometimes it goes on for years. I've known of cases in our own state where embezzlement lasted for perhaps 0, 10 or 12 years before it was ever uncovered. Well, you would remove those responsible for this embezzlement, yet the President hasn't removed the Attorney General, McGrath, or any of the others. Well, I would remove those responsible for corruption, and for dishonesty, if I was satisfied that they were the ones who were responsible and who did cause it. But not for incompetence and permitting this to go on? As far as incompetence is concerned, that's a hard thing to measure, as I see it. I go back to the President of the Bank again. You have dishonest people in that bank, and it goes on for 10 or 12 years, and he has autotunes coming in and out, and these people are smart enough to keep that covered up. Kevin McCarville, today, over the international wire, the ticker, General Eisenhower, said he would accept the Republican draft, in effect. I read a statement. Do you think if he got the nomination he could beat President Truman? If you think so, are you eager as a highly-placed Democrat to get another candidate who could stand up more strongly against the General? That's a good question, and I'm glad you brought that up because I think it's very timely at this point. I think so. But I like Eisenhower. I think very highly of him, and I was one who said that if he was willing to run on the Democratic ticket, I would support him. But I will not support him on the Republican ticket, and I believe that President Truman runs against him. I will support Truman, and I believe that on the basis of the fine progressive administration Truman has brought to the nation, the excellent condition of the people of today, and not only their financial condition, but the progress they've made, the general welfare, the progress they've made in general welfare, I really believe that Mr. Truman will be elected if he desires to run. Well, do you think Mr. Truman will be a candidate to succeed himself? Well, he has never told me. I have told him that I would like to see him run, and I will staunchly support him if he does so. Well, do you think you really get very much support in view of, let's say, the corruption issue, but the third-term issue, and any number of other issues that might be raised? Well, I think we've pretty well handled that corruption issue, but as far as the third-term issue, I think there's no law against it now. Well, it doesn't apply to him, but it applies to everybody else. Yes, but I remember another president who pretty well demonstrated that success could be had on the third term. Well, that was before they passed the third-term amendment. That's true. Of course, you realize this, at that time, they had not passed the third-term amendment, but it was generally considered as unwritten law, but no president would run for third time. You think written law would be ignored just as much as unwritten law has been? Well, of course, it doesn't apply specifically to Mr. Truman, the only person it doesn't apply to. That's true. The unwritten law was very strong at that time, and I feel that the president wouldn't know, although it doesn't apply to Mr. Truman, there will be no stronger. Well, if the president doesn't stand for reelection, there seems to be a general feeling that he might not, having little or nothing to do with the issue of corruption much. Do you think governors at Kefauver would make good candidate, or who do you think should stand in the place of Mr. Truman? Well, personally, if the president doesn't choose to run, of course, I'd like to point one thing out, not as that the third term does not necessarily apply to him. He's actually only been elected for one term, although he served three and three-quarter years of the other term. But I don't know Kefauver. I've never met him personally. I think the nation owes Kefauver a great debt for his strong leadership in helping to clear up some of the conditions which were existing. And for my part, I might point out that he is a Democrat, and we Democrats have tried to clear up, clean up the house when we found it was necessary to do so. But I don't know Kefauver. I do know Gordon Browning, who just recently announced himself as a candidate, and he's from Tennessee, as you recall, and a very distinguished and able statesman of that area. I don't predict that he would get the nomination at all. That's a pretty wide-open proposition. Well, Governor, I'd like to ask you, as a final question, what you think the best achievement has been of your administration as Governor of Delaware? Well, I might say that the most successful achievement of our administration has been our education program. We have really done a fine job, I think, in Delaware in taking care of our responsibilities to the future citizens of our state and nation. During the last three years, we have increased teacher salaries by 40 percent, and Delaware has the highest state-supported teacher salary schedule in the nation today. In addition to that, we have built a great many school buildings. I think we have increased our school building capacity by almost 50 percent, and we'll spend about $35 million on that, and with a little state size of Delaware, $35 million to 325 people would mean a billion. Okay, sir, I got you into this right at this moment, but I'm sorry our time is up. Thank you very much for being with us tonight. The editorial board for this edition of the Lawn Jean Chronoscope was Mr. Victor Rizel and Mr. Henry Haslett. Our distinguished guest was the Honorable Albert N. Garville, the Governor of Delaware. On February 15th at the Bislett Stadium in Oslo, Norway, as the Olympic flag is raised, King Hawken will officially open the Winter Games for the 1952 Olympics. 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