 What is going on guys, it's your boy DPJ here today. We're gonna have a Destiny video on you today's Destiny video. I've got some live PVP for you guys and I'm gonna try and prove auto rifles ain't as bad as people say. Yes, they ain't as good as they once were, but are they really, really that bad? In today's video, we're gonna try and find out. Now I've come across a great auto rifle. It's called the Lowdown P14. Now you buy this from the Crucible Quartermaster or you can get it from LLGNOR engram or if you're lucky, a blue engram. I rerolled mine. I got crack control on mine. I got a small ball which makes stability maxed out and I also got hidden hand. Now I saw on a Planet Destiny video that hidden hand works particularly well on primary weapons. So we're gonna try it out. I mean, you can get better mines for this spot probably but still let's try this bad way out. What have I got here? I've got red dot ORS now. Nothing else is better than this one. Yeah, let's just go with that. So let's just get straight into it really. Second day of using foul winters and a Dream Waker. Our man just threw shit together. He gives a fuck really. Now I would say, now we all know, someone might go and name, we all know that auto rifles, since I think it was a 1.1.2 or the 1.0.2, I don't know, one of the fucking patches were nerfed pretty badly. I mean, they buffed auto rifles. I think the foreign guy, incredible buff as we all know, but auto rifle's got a serious nerf and that was because they were overused in PvP. Everybody was using the Vanquisher, the Groom Citizen, the Shadow Pryves, the Surash Regime and Big Bungie saw this and thought, well, no one's using the fucking Pulse Rifles. So we buffed the Pulse Rifles, we're nerfed the hell out of auto rifles. We give foreign a little buff because everyone's complaining about how weak it is and it sort of made PvP really unbalanced. Now I've rarely used auto rifles because of this and it isn't because of me going into PvP with auto rifles and doing bad with them. It's because I read everywhere, I see everywhere that people complain about auto rifles that they really are terrible to use and they're underpowered. Now I can understand on small close range maps, like fucking, I don't know, the Cauldron, fucking Asylum, where it's overrun by last words, shotguns, you will get on with a auto rifle and long range maps, blown watch. I reckon you can do quite good with them. We're gonna have to find out. Are they really ruined? We're gonna find out right here right now. This is a great map to try them out and I mean, obviously the thorn is a beast on every single map. You just can't compare with it. It's way overpowered. That in my opinion is the main weapon that needs a serious nerf. Probably saw my video a bit over there when I talked about the last word. Well, I don't actually believe it needs a nerf. Probably a slight range nerf but leads to damage your weight is, it just needs that bug fixing. That's all it needs. And that'd be a great, perfectly balanced weapon. It takes skill to use the last words. The thorn requires no skill. You can hit somebody twice, run off and they still die. And it's just the way it goes. Now we're gonna try this bad boy out actually. I mean, I'm not trying to get a good gameplay here. I'm trying to see if auto rifles really are as bad as people are saying here. And this is a great one to try out with. I mean, it ain't the most powerful but it shoots pretty quick. And, I'm gonna, obviously I'm gonna use a weapon. I'm gonna use other weapons obviously. I mean, I'm just trying to see if I can get a good gameplay, a decent score. We're using auto rifles. This guy's underneath. What do I make? Let's just go. You're falling behind. What? Oh, you laggy motherfucker. You laggy motherfucker. Like actually this thing is quite powerful to be honest. It's actually pretty powerful. We're gonna jump down here. Oh, we're dead. It does, I think it does 19 to the head or 18 to the head. And it shoots pretty quick with perfect stability as well. You can drop somebody pretty fast, to be honest. Let's see if we can grab us about nine. Well, you just fell over and died. What the fuck happened there? This guy's in too bad of a weapon. I mean, I can understand. Well, imagine if this would be like, I ain't gonna act good. You ain't gonna act good on that word. But that doesn't mean also the rifles are terrible. It really don't. Yes, they ain't as good as they once were, but maybe before they were overpowered. Well, overpowered, shall I say. They were just overused. I mean, PVP back when also the rifles were a weapon of choice. It was way more balanced than what it is now. PVP was way more balanced than what it is now. I mean, this weapon will do 15 to the body and 19 to the head. Cloud control kicking in. I'll probably do 20 to the head. Maybe. You neutralized zone B. Maybe. Captured zone B. This is a great also rifle. I really believe that. Ooh, zone C locked. You should have died, kid. You should have fucking died, kid. You coming up here? Fuck out of here, bitch. Enemy captured zone C. I mean, you've got good stability as well. I mean, good stability, good accuracy. I don't think I don't really have, to be honest. Zone A neutralized. Wow! Fucking come on, man. You guys saw my shotgun was on target, then I didn't get a hit marker. I didn't get a motherfucking hit marker! What the flying fuck? Now, in the auto rifle, Ella, I mean, I loved the weapon, the Shadow Fist. It was a Vanguard auto rifle, and it was so good. It was so good. You could compete with the... Shit, what the fuck happened there? You could compete with the Shooter's Regime with it. Have you ever been available? Let's see what we can do here. Oh, you fuck! You motherfucker! I mean, I'm tough on my team. I mean, my team ain't the best, but I'm tough on my team using an auto rifle. Gonna get all the Ella, just gonna feed it. There's a rocket launcher coming my way. Oh, shit, that was a fail. I don't give a fuck, boy. You're not shooting me with no fucking rocket launcher. And that kid's on a five kill screen. I mean, obviously the last word is soul, soul power, for that close range, but... At the end of the day, close range, exotic weapon. And that's another chance, yeah. Oh, kid. Oh, fuck me. And a range of the foul winters. It's like a motherfucking sniper, it really is. Zone B. There's loads of them down there. Let's see what we can do here. Oh, shit, nice. Come on, Blade Dancer. Oh, you got Chips and Bang, and no one ever, you fuck people up. I'm captured. I'm so dead. I'm so fucking dead, yeah. So fucking dead, there. Zone C, YouTube. So fucking dead. Now, also life was yesterday, ain't as good as day one square. And I'm gonna get hate for this video, but to be honest, I don't give a fuck. I don't give a fuck! You guys know me. You guys who've watched me long enough to know that. I don't give a... Who the fuck are you shooting at, kid? I guess we're in the lag now. This guy's above us. He's above us. Is he gonna try and capture C? Because that's the way to go here. If I jump off, he's probably gonna shut up when we're mad, or not. But yeah, I do believe auto rifles are a... Oh, get on. I mean, you got close range weapon. Certainly not. You'll get outgunned with a shotgun last word. Without a shadow of death. Wow, kid, fucking move. Well, yeah, my teammates just standing there, watching me kill me twice, and I'm going for that fucking move. Fuck my life sideways, man. Grab some of this. I wouldn't mind actually third eye on an auto rifle. I mean, I'm not sure how much I'm talking. Shit. I'm not sure how much of a difference the cloud control's making here, to be honest. I mean, I'm reloading. We'll get to the bottom half of my clip most of the time, so I ain't really seen. We died. I mean, it isn't that bad. It isn't that bad. Auto rifles are not that bad. I mean, yes, they are weak compared to a lot of other weapons, but... I mean, if you've got gun skill, I reckon you can do quite good. Yeah, why are we attacking? Neutralized zone A. Don't get me shit. Heavy ammo available. Oh, shit. Oh, that two of them. My teammate picked up the heavy. That's fast, all I give a fuck about. As long as we get the heavy and they don't, I'm not gonna stop. Now, if we lose this game, I can't blame losing this game on the auto rifle I'm using. I mean, because I'm doing quite good. And I'm doing as good as I probably would be doing if I used a fawn. Right, during the day, we will not let the fawns overpowered. Zone B, neutralized. This isn't that bad. I mean, look at that. It isn't that bad. It really ain't. It's gonna have a heavy, isn't it? It's gonna have a heavy. Yes, he's fucking angry. What do you mean? Motherfucker! You should die. I mean, like, I'm doing the best in the fucking lobby. And people are using the last words. I don't think I've been hit with a fawn yet, which is a good change, to be honest. But this isn't that bad as an actual weapon. I'm so dead here. I'm so fucking dead here. Fuck you. Yes, die, motherfucker. Die, motherfucker, die. I mean, yes, auto rifles, like I said, ain't as good as they once were. And to make him... What the fuck is going on there? Why is there someone who can't finish it? And no one's here. I probably am finishing top, because the teammates are that fucking bad, to be honest. Fuck you. Fuck you. It's that fucking sniper. It's good to be. Fuck a bit. It should be, I have to say, the effects in that are perfect. I've been doing 15 to the body standard and 19 to the head. Oh, shit. Oh, what am I doing? What am I doing? How did I not see him there? What the fuck is going on? Now, one thing that I will tell you that this is an auto rifle you probably will want to get and keep just in case they do it eventually ever. Fuck you. Die, will you? Just in case they do ever eventually both auto rifles? Yeah, you motherfucker. But yes, just in case they ever do both auto rifles, this will be an absolute animal, especially with that small ball giving it perfect stability. Oh, we've got chips and brackets. Oh, look at that, look at that. Oh, shit. Oh, dear. Oh, dear. Come on, bitch. Motherfucker! That's what you get. That is what you motherfucking get. That is what you motherfucking get. I mean, yeah, we're going to lose. Right, that is not this weapon's fault, like I've said. I mean, I think that's great. Range at all, as you saw there. I'm paired with my fucking accuracy. Shit don't go down well at range, but this is a weapon. I would probably suggest you to use on mid to long range maps. I wouldn't use this on close range maps. Not where this shotguns and fucking that's where it's going to be absolutely everywhere. We've almost won. Okay, so you are. We should sit together, kids. Oh, motherfucker! What'd he hit me on? Axing bolt got me. What was this looking at? Is rocket launcher? Now, I was in a full team and we were decent players. I look and honor for doing that a lot better now. What are we doing? Oh shit, come on now. I did that and not kill him. What the fuck happened there? Let's have a look at how I did. I don't think I did too great to be honest and this was the first game I went into with this also rifle, with an also rifle in such a long time. I don't think I did too bad and I'm not the best fucking crucible player whatsoever. I mean, look at my teammates. Shit. Look at my teammates. I mean, I've got 26 kills. That isn't too bad. I mean, I don't do that good with a lot of other weapons. So, I've got the best KD in the game. I've got three captures. I've got a decent score. I don't think auto rifles... Well, this auto rifle anyway, should I say auto rifles? Yes, auto rifles are bad. They are underpowered compared to Porsche rifles, certain hand cannons, which is the problem. Hand cannons need nerfing. Once they are nerfed, will they be balanced with auto rifles? I don't know. Maybe a slight, slight, slight damage increase to also rifles would be, would be okay. But at the end, I don't think also rifles are that bad. Now, let the hate commence. I know I'm going to get hated, but it's just the weight goals. I mean, I'm considered, I consider myself average at best at PvP and if I can do good with an auto rifle, how good can you do to a fucking MRG style do with them? I think better than I actually thought. But guys, that is it for another video. I hope you enjoyed it. Do drop a like. I'd appreciate the support. Thanks for stopping by as always, and peace out until next time. Peace!