 Can't stand this 300 Rockstar if you want to sponsor me. I would love to party like a Rockstar with you And that's crazy. I don't know what he poured me. He wasn't even real Imagine that place you went to was not real. I could have sandwich shop. I could add ayahuasca that night Yeah, I don't know what I had it is like what the main driver protein synthesis, but it literally tastes like burnt snow Ladies gentlemen Topic thunder two videos a week be sure to subscribe give this thing a thumbs up follow the crew We got the one and only CPG the king of security The kingpin the legal see kingpin. That's a good name. You know the kingpin the legal king. Do you know the kingpin? Yeah, it kind of looks like you Or vice versa. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah a little bit King Kai the one and only Jim McD through SB.co and This one is good because we got some generations going here. We got kind of the young bucks. I feel like Daniel was actually very spoiled in many senses with his Fitness career where he kind of play college football and then he just landed in our lap and we kind of showed him the way here Kyle had a little bit of a Realm in this and then Jim and I have different stories, but similar where we bounce around big talk is pre-workout What's like the craziest shit you ever took or something you were super addicted to or or maybe maybe it could have been a food You know Kyle was talking about baseball like oh we have to I have to tap my wrist three times and wear a yellow bracelet before I throw a heater But pre-workout in terms of supplementation is where I want to head But if you don't have that hit somewhere else the original when I was in my freshman year of college is when C4 first came out as well as another brand called jacked 3d DMA or DMA. Yes, I'm and at the time maybe when were you a freshman? 2012 yeah, maybe it was probably just about getting found out though. Yeah No, it's just getting found out and jacked 3d was like the new like the newest of new and C4 hadn't changed their like recipe or something yet and all I remember dude is literally taking a scoop of C4 and like my face on Just flames fire and like your hands the jitter and that like touching your balls You felt the what is the what's the substance? Yeah, you can just take that That's actually really good for you. Hey good little it you get a little muscle endurance dude, and That and then the yeah, like I said the jacked 3d was I think a little bit more amplified than that. Yeah, like that ended up being Exed I don't see that in stores ever. Well, I think you can find Jack 3d But really change the formulation because the die metal DMA J. Yeah people were like People were like dying. Yeah, cuz also kids are like mixing that their kids like you and they're fucking Getting a bicep pump at 4 p.m. With that and then going home and chugging vodka and for local Yeah, I was yeah, I did that just kids like you know the kids. I died They would overdo the frat boys the frat boys were doing that Giants starter last night. Yeah Logan Webb Three Red Bulls before he before he starts. That's still like what 200 migs. Yeah, that's that's pretty red bull Does that shit? Yeah, I can't stand this is a 300 Rockstar if you want to sponsor me I would love to party like a Rockstar with you Things speaking of giant what Giants game five last night. What was the date of it? Okay? Someone watches this three years from now October 5th or 14th 2021 like a time capsule now the last call Good call. Definitely a chex swing. It was a good call. Yeah, definitely Break he went over the plate a little bit. I'm just saying there's four of us here and only one of us played pro baseball So I'm voting with Kyle. Damn. That's crazy. Kyle's wrong because he's a pitcher He's a pitcher of it. Of course, it's a strike. You don't have to swing. It's a strike. I disagree. That was a terrible call It was a terrible awful call the first time I ever took supplements. I played high school sports I played a year at junior college and then I quit and then and I was gonna work out and start to Get bigger stronger for a d1 tryout and I went to a supplement store for the first time ever like my parents Weren't into any of that like my dad played college football, but they barely lifted they did some leg press And that's it and I go in there and this dude was like a drip literal drip and mullet Fucking skin. Why is it always wet skin tight skin tight polo? Yeah, you know v tapered armor. He's yeah. Yeah. Yeah And he's like, yeah, we're doing free samples. I said, okay Hey, what's that? 18 19. Okay. So you were 18 at least. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, or just some random No, it's like a mom and pop one out on the burbs and I was about to go to the gym and hit shoulders or something And uh, I feel like I hopped into a black hole. I think I trained shoulders I did like my normal workout, which was way more ridiculous than I train now Like just volume on volume on exercise on exercise because I'm reading these, you know Bodybuilder magazines that just throw eight exercises in a row for one body partner. Yeah I did like three times that I literally just trained delts for like four hours straight And I still just felt like dude, I like how you going? I was addicted to the feel of a dumbbell in my hand and I've never once in my life ever had that again That's crazy. I don't know what he poured me. He wasn't even real No, that place you went to was not real. I could have sandwich shop. I could have ayahuasca that night. Yeah Yeah, I don't know what I had you didn't even What about I was down by the river. Yeah, the associates that I mean, I'm all for like You know them trying to educate you or whatever But you get I mean they get these total like okay, watch it bro. Yeah, no, no, he's all right He's all right 100% when you watch it. He worked at a supplement store for a very long time. It was nobody's right That's why I left they try to like really like sway you into like Things that they're just like a car salesman. Yes. No, I'd say yes That is at least a car drives you somewhere when at least a car salesman can tell you like the airbags in the car These supplement guys have no clue. No, they have no idea what they're like We just got this in fucking take it It's like my old strength coach used to say like everything in those supplement store. He used to say our paint chips. They're just It's all Nothing's regulated. Nothing's FDA approved and all this other stuff. I mean when I was taking eno explode like how how That's pretty light. You know explodes really like the original formula like was well back Pre-workout is probably the biggest market in the world for fitness supplements now like everyone has a pre-workout and Things they have some proprietary shit, but back then like not even 2012 like 2009 2008 I feel there's like three companies. There was like your local company. There was eno explode and you're like Well back in the 80s It was an ultimate orange. Oh, yeah, that was real. Yeah, they had yeah I had stuff in it that it's not it was not clean not clean. No, I think it had just straight up methamphetamine in it Maybe that's what I had in my trip. I'm doing maybe I think I had a fitness trip Ultimate orange came back in 2006, but it started in 82 My best friend back then was like totally addicted to the shit I've gotten addicted to pre-workout and whether it's like actual substance or you're just so locked into the feeling of Insane caffeine. It's the feeling I got addicted to c4 so bad to the point. I was getting uh withdrawals No, I swear to god Yeah, I was getting caffeine withdrawals. I was having caffeine withdrawals Terrible headaches and migraines. Mm-hmm. I would say the next uh, I don't want to cut you off, Jim But go on the next thing actually just we just saw a study on this or I did About dry scooping versus yeah, just drinking it normally dry scooping you get way less effectiveness It hits you harder in the beginning, but then it goes away versus drinking it'll last a lot longer That's some new kid shit, dude. No, it's very new kid. I've never done that our crazy friend like robot Maybe did I like protein or something randomly, but like I would never I did it sometimes I've never done it with dry scoop BCAAs. I don't understand. Yeah, that's not cool Yeah, it's like the it's like chalk like like I've never done chalkboard chalk. Yeah, why would you do that? I've done some weird shit like I've taken isoleucine. That's not flavored and that's supposed it is like well the main driver protein synthesis But it literally tastes like burnt snail. No, it tastes like shit. Like it's all gross so bad It's just like skin and goo. That's what it tastes like because it comes from animal hide and shit. No, it is Yeah, it's all it's all animal stuff. But it's like fingernails and shit like unflavored It is the grossest thing you could probably do and I has I took 10 grams a day just for smells Muscle milk ever put any pre worker out or pre Yeah, uh, they're the main company has one side of sport side of sport Yeah, they're one of the only companies that you could I mean back when I was playing They were NSF approved which meant they were in a third party facility So then like you could actually take it was yeah, they my high school I mean the protein but they that was like they're like here's a muscle after a workout. It was like It was just such a great name talk about marketing. I mean, that's all the supplementary. Yeah, yeah, it's cash Yeah, because saddle sport did the pre-work out. Yeah, they have yeah, so unrelated but related everybody says It's It's either jacked or jack 3d, but it's never jacked 3d because that's double double That's like atm machine. It's supposed to be jacked right and the three is an e is the e. Yeah jacked Yes, yeah But everyone says it wrong I have to ask why you make a product and name it in a way that nobody ever gets the fucking name So then we're talking about it still like we are right now. Yeah But I've never had it and I can talk about it all day long Yeah, it's okay. It was fine. Uh, I used to yeah, I've taken too many things to even explain at this point Yeah, no, I don't know and now I take nothing black coffee or anything. I can say the last time I took a pre-work probably back when I was competing two three years ago. I think I last 2016 I was sorry the last there are some newer tropics and things out there that feel good and you kind of help you concentrate now But don't waste your money kids. Someone's giving me headaches, man. I don't know. Yeah, tons of things are a weird stomach You're just blowing out. Yeah, I didn't like it. I definitely used energy drinks more honestly for podcasting Yeah, one that I ever did for working out like I'd rather coffee or I don't care It doesn't doesn't matter to me. It's not one of those things that really makes a big difference I like being well fed before work out. I know we're going off. I never ate Yeah, we'll go there next. We'll go there next. That might be another topic. All right, I'll hold another video But uh, yeah