 Big shit, it's a unique hustle, nigga, big shit Big shit, big shit, big shit, huh, name another podcast like this We're gonna bring it to the table, boss talk We're your girlfriend's favorite, boss talk We're gonna do it how you want it, boss talk Yeah, everybody on it, boss talk It's a unique hook Check it, check it, check it, it's a unique hustle It's your boy, E-C-E-O, and I'm here with the lovely official Miss Jamaica, what's going on? None, none, what's going on with you? Man, you know, it's been just a little bit since we did the interview But we got a guy here now, he don't need no introduction This guy's, you know, he been around the scene for a while Man, I mean, you know, he counsels me now You know, this is one who pretty much tells me, you know Hey, man, it's gonna be okay, man Hey, man, don't react to that, man And he's returning to our platform, right? Yeah, and he's returning Is this the first time we've had a repeat? Who did we have a repeat? We had Push A Man Push A Man, yeah, yeah, yeah, from Top Off But we got the real deal Holyfield in here today, y'all Yeah, yeah, yeah, Big D from Mogul Media is in the building Yo, what up, what up? You know, I'm gonna just let you know I pulled up for one reason, for one reason, though He didn't write into it any more He didn't write into it I had to come on the show because I got smoke, you know what I'm saying Oh! You know, I seen Cloud Records, you know what I'm saying? They get an award, you know what I'm saying? Sean Cotton, you know what I'm saying? Say Cheese, get an award Charleston White, get an award Big D coming, Big D leaving, don't get an award I'm trying to figure out how to Mogul, don't get an award Well, you know, it's not that hard to understand What we do, man, you know, it's really It's really something that we started for the community, man And a guy like you, man Not saying you're not deserving of an award I mean, we're just getting started I mean, and at the end of the day, man As we move forward, we are looking at people like you You know what I'm saying? A real contender Top contender, you know? I mean, I hear you So, pretty much you're just telling me, no, I'm not getting an award No, no, no, no, it's cool No, no, no, no, I'm saying a top contender I mean, we're not even through with the year yet We just been in this thing for going on five months And I mean, we gave out a few awards But we are way, way... We're not done, right? I don't think we're done So we got a... You're a very good influencer You know, in the media field Right? Blogging? Let's put it in this way We have not awarded anyone in your category as yet So what you're saying is Big D is not on the same level Right now as Charleston White and Sean Cotton Is it what y'all saying? No, we're not saying that Sean Cotton has not received an award But he got his award pending I don't even have one pending Yeah, yeah, I gave him one pending I did tell him that it was a good chance He's going man hard and I get it, you know what I mean? You even acknowledged him as being one of the hardest working men in this industry For sure So, I mean, you know, we're not beyond giving out a few Because at the end of the day, we're giving out roses while you're here So I could see... I could definitely see Mogul Media getting an award So instead of giving me an award I want an award named after me I like the NFL got the Walter Payton Humanitarian Award How about... I figure out a way to contribute to Boss Talk And we do something like our Boss Talk Mogul Media And we highlight somebody that's doing well within the community And just show them love I got it, let's talk about it Definitely, and I'll put up funds and get it done Hey man, let's make it happen together So basically anyone that's doing things in the community And that we could do something I love that man, I love that idea man That's why I call you for counseling Hey man, you know They don't call me Uncle Field or Mogul for no reason Say man, you're doing your thing man You've definitely dropped some jewels on us in this platform man Ever since we started, you know, God put you in our life man You help us man Every time I call you, you're always there Even if you're at a airport or if you're out of town You're going to pick up the phone for me And we're going to spend hours talking about different things So I appreciate that I mean, you know, I appreciate you just recognizing I'd be going places doing things No, no, you're a hustler I already know you're a hustler, you know I see it in you And at the end of the day, I know already You're not even a native of Dallas So I know you will pick up and go You were talking about moving to Houston too, weren't you? Yeah, I think I may have hit a roadblock in that So we'll see I'm so happy Yeah man No, I don't want to leave This is a guy right here When I really want to do something I know he's going to have my back And he hasn't let me down yet So I know it And everybody I talked to him about it Been straight up and down, true about what they said So you don't find that every day And I know that So I appreciate you That's for real So we're going to call it the Big D Real Award No, no, no, we're not going to do that We're going to have to figure it out together I'll take you on a couple of suggestions I like the idea Of doing something for somebody in the community Yeah, I'm down with that I like that, man I like that You know what I'm saying? So I've had a few people on here Since she was here last I mean, from Sharon Cotten To even Trill Talk, no Pill Talk Has been back And there's been You have a son on here? Yeah, and I acknowledged that While he was here And he said that she was this old crazy uncle That's where we told That's where he was growing up We told him that growing up You know, we didn't want to cause no problem Oh man, so How do you think we're doing so far? I love to hear that You know what? I really want to give y'all y'all flowers Cause y'all got to hear full steam Y'all got so many interviews That I have yet to get Really? You know what I'm saying? And people are taking to the platform To how professional it is You know what I'm saying? All these cameras, man I wish everybody could see the cameras I feel official when I come here, man Thank you, man And kudos to y'all What y'all doing Cause the way that y'all bring people in The way that y'all platform is The way that you formulate and have a conversation It feels like home Man You know what I'm saying? It feels like, you know what? I can open up I don't know if it's how hospitable you guys are Or how drunk y'all get But it's something Well everybody who says that Not everybody actually drinks So everybody does say that Yeah We're not going to blame it on the alcohol today Great, there we go No, you're definitely doing a great job yourself, man I know you had I think you had Kenny B on You've had a lot more people on this way, oh man And so how's that coming As far as over there with Mogul Media You know what, it's good You know what I'm saying? I'm thankful for everybody tuning in Like I just hit over 3 million views You know what I'm saying? Total, so that's dope But you know I'm constantly Always kind of assessing myself like Where do I want to go? I know lately I've been doing a lot of hip hop artists Which is cool And they tend to be kind of easier to get But it's like I want to broaden it Where everyone can come and get something Find an interview that they like instead of Just a rapper after rapper after rapper So I'm trying to figure out that That balance, that transition But you know, people who aren't rappers Are entertainers, they kind of sometimes Be camera shot, so it's kind of hard To get them to come out So I'm working on that, man But that's really expanding the brand Traveling and just spending my horizons The people that I talk to Exactly, I do 100% agree with you Because it's the same thing here Where entertainment business is easier To get because they want that publicity They want that exposure So it's like an exchange for both of us But when we want to get that mental illness person Or that doctor or that You know, it's harder I don't think, I think From a different perspective I guess I think God gives you who you get And I feel like When you get that person Everybody has a backstory And I think a lot of times We need to get more in tune to that backstory You know what I mean? When I watch you guys You know what I learned That the part that I'm missing Is I need to get my wife involved I need to like, you know You need to help me Because I do everything myself And I try to let her have her peace You know what I mean But I feel like I need to Hunting down, like you said The mental health expert Or the politician That takes work Like you really adamant Either trying to get that person Or the person next to that person Following up You got to be willing to do that Sometimes my ego Don't allow me to keep doing that You know what I'm saying? I get it So it's like, you know what I need to bring Not necessarily a softer side But a softer approach And I think maybe bringing my wife in That's dope You know, it's hard for men To really tell women Have you spoken to her about it? No, I haven't You know what I'm saying? I hint I think the kids love it Just come out straight and tell her The kids gonna grow into it It's very, I mean They ain't gonna like it But at the end of the day Gonna respect it later on in life It's just a dope concept To bring everybody in And it gives you that unity Even though it's gonna be some tough times Tough times Sometimes they don't like doing it You know, they don't want to do it They want to do their own things Yeah, yeah, yeah But hey, man The thing you can say is Like I said Getting back to those people that you do get Try to make sure that you touch places Where they hadn't been touched And that's what I like By Mr. Lee's interview last night We go different, man Man, how did that go? Dope, man Did my name come up? Did y'all shot me out? I don't think so But maybe did I'm pretty sure I'm pretty You know, I'm trying to get them out of my closet I'm pretty sure I'm pretty sure I don't remember because we talked for so long But I'm pretty sure I did I'm glad you got that in the interview, man That's dope, that's dope right there If it's something that somebody linked me I'm so true to what I'm doing It's just natural, bro Don't feel bad I'll be cloud chasing No, no, no You know, I like what my name is You want me to post something fast Mention my name You gonna post that thing I'm trying to get that I gotta make sure that I can take it back though It's a lot of times I've Spoken on your names Hey, man You hold me down You know, even though Sean Kicked my ass in front of the bus Oh, that was a good one I even brought you into that video I'm my first time doing that I see you're getting your Vlad on Yeah, I was trying to I was like, I wanna show That he said something And it made valid points For sure So that was what I was looking at, right? No, for sure Yeah, you did Yeah, it was a valid point Let's get to that gatekeeper list, man Because Terry told me that He played part in that And that he gave his opinion on that No, he did, absolutely Shout out to Terry Like I said, when I first got into this The interview phase of things Two people who really, really Stepped up and helped me out Was Sean and Terry Wow You know what I'm saying? Nope And I appreciate it Because mind you, when Terry Started helping me out I wanna say I started doing it This, like, December Maybe January of 2020 Terry jumped out I met him in December of 2019 So for only knowing me for a month Just jumping in And you know what I'm saying Doing whatever they can to help And also rainwater I gotta get that to him, too Whoa You know what I'm saying? Because, again When I interviewed rainwater I really was only, like, two months And again Into doing this You know what I'm saying? But these guys who already had names for themselves Already had platforms for themselves Things going, man These guys jumped out And gave me a chance So definitely shout out to Terry But he definitely gave an input On the list, you know what I'm saying? And you paid it forward to us Yeah, for sure So that's dope You know what I'm saying? And they say black people Can't work together Man, we work together all the time Man, stop playing, man All the time That's why you got all these rappers Out here and entrepreneurs Out here right now It's because of us working together So I look at the narrative A little bit different But you know they said A good suffers for the bad Because you have a lot of people Out there who don't Well, I really feel like We actually support Black people support each other More than we think I think we get too caught up On focus on the ones Who don't support And as you just got to understand it Not everybody meant to work together Personalities made class Sometimes it's best that One person doing one thing over here And one person doing one thing over here It's never always meant for them To come together Sometimes it just means for them To keep doing a thing That's working for the betterment Of everybody So I feel like as a whole Most black people I know Support black businesses Most black people I know If it's another black person With an opportunity they support I just think we get so fixated On the ones who not supporting it And we ignore the ones who really are And so it can kind of seem Glass half empty all the time I 100% agree with that Okay, let me get on I like to get all the way into it Man, so the gatekeeper lives Just to touch on that a little bit Is there another one coming? No, so you know what I decided I'm only going to do that Once a year Once a year Okay, as dope I like it Give people enough time to work Work, yeah Absolutely So Sean said that he Felt like he should have been above J. Prince You know, that's what he's supposed to say I'm just telling you what he said I know, I'm just saying He's supposed to say that Yeah, he said He didn't really want that done that way And he felt like you You put him in a place where He's like, man That's kind of disrespectful I said what? I said, not in my butt He didn't mean it that way Sean kicked my ass Right in front of that J. Prince bus Hey, tell J. Prince I ain't want no smoke But again Sean, the way he responded The way he's supposed to do it Is the way that you're supposed to do it Because we're in a culture right now Where everybody self-glorified themselves Okay I'm number one I'm the best No, you don't determine You're supposed to feel like you're the best Sure, that's cool But your peers, your consumers Your customers, they the ones who determine You're number one So the stance that Sean took When he came to J. Prince It looks better from him from the optics anyway Because if he were to say Yeah, I am better than J. Prince You imagine the heat that would have came On him and how he said that Yeah Even if he felt he may be Yeah But Sean is a humble guy Yeah And these things that these lists aren't real They're subjective And it's just Barbershop talk Yeah This is just no different than Stephen A. Smith But in the blogging world You know what I'm saying? J. Prince is a goat He's a legend He's a pioneer Sean is a goat He's a legend He's a pioneer But say cheese didn't operate At the time of rap a lot So we doing hypotheticals That's all it is It's Barbershop talk It's not to take away from J. Prince Or to give everything to Sean But the way that Sean responded By humbling himself And giving J. Prince the credit That's a testament to his character And he answered that the right way Okay, Terry was saying the same thing That he tried to talk you out of putting J. Prince I mean, yeah Sean Cottenville J. Prince He did But I thought for Because the list is purely entertainment It's, again, this is just subjective And it's Barbershop talk But we can definitely There is an argument to say that What J. Prince was able to do in his era Pioneer and pave a way out of no way Sean has done the exact same thing In his digital era I explained that Where he was coming from Yeah You heard me when I explained Yeah, I explained Well, I even made you explain it again Yeah, for sure You know, I caught Sean I caught him like, damn, you just You're going to get me jumped Yeah, what did he say? He was like, oh, no, dude, oh, man That's how you got it down there You do a good impersonation That's what got him on But I understand where he came from Because at the end of the day I'm a small fish Yeah He is sharked in a pond with another shark Or even a whale And it's dangerous when two whales Or two sharks clash And that ego can get the best of it So Sean took the best route That he took the man route He knew this all his hypothetical He's the creator Yeah The pioneer of the list game He know not to fall into that trap Okay, well, falling back to Terry Blue And when I seen him Online, I seen ToonTV Take his, you know, basically Say he taking his LLC For Dallas Global And he basically was going to Basically own his company Did you see that? I saw it And he's a friend of yours Or a companion What did you think? Nothing? I mean, it's like wrestling Okay You know what I'm saying? You need good male soap opera theatrics It's entertaining It's WWE in the blogging world I don't take any of this seriously You know what I'm saying? What Toon and Terry got going on They both men who got Businesses with Dallas Global and Real Toon They both doing their thing in their own fields I hope that they're not willing To lose everything over this Over a moment Yeah, over a moment It's like, bro, y'all both doing your thing So it's really for me I don't take it serious I think it's entertaining I think it's a good time Toon is a genius He understand that people love To show up to see a car wreck So he creates a car wreck Every time for people to show up And gas and you know what I'm saying And sit here and all How disrespectful people can be to each other Like I told Toon He got offended by it a little bit But I was coming from a pure heart I was like, bro, you're kind of like The male version of Wendy Williams That's crazy, right? But out of Wendy Williams Like when me and him had that discussion Charlemagne and Guy came out of Wendy Williams Wendy Williams is one of the most pivotal Influenced in personalities in media You either love or you hate her And those are the people that are most successful In media It's the people that you either That's polarizing You absolutely love them Or you absolutely hate them Whether it's Wendy Williams Charlemagne Donald Trump Charleston White Kwame Brown These people You either absolutely love them Or you hate them Toon TV And Dallas Global Man, those two guys are working their butt off To create something Where people can look on platforms And understand, you know, where everything Eels in the city from their perspective Well, you know, Rainwater was on there And he on a live with Toon TV And he made a statement about, you know, The country seen for East Texas And kind of he don't pay attention To those country rappers And then you seen Trio Talk No Peel Talk step up And he said, hey man, you know You know what he said You seen the comeback What did you think about that? Wrestling again Wrestling again? Wrestling again I mean, these theatrics You need the drama This is male bravado At its all time high To be entertainment To shed light Or whatever you try to promote Shout out to Trio Talk No Peel Talk Put it on for East Texas Man, shout out It's a Rainwater name Whether you hate them or you love them Rainwater name captures ears So Trio Talk found a moment To take on a wrestling moment A new wrestler in the arena And you got a top wrestler That's been here You calling them out I mean, the theatrics It helped Trio Talk It put the spotlight on East Texas I think for the most part Where Rainwater said it It's true In some ways Like a lot of people Don't pay attention to the country Whether you want to look at that It's good or bad But it's kind of secluded It's kind of reclusive Unless you got family there You tend to not go there Or pay attention there Unless you're artists who break And usually those are the first places That bring you in Yeah, like Bond He was here the other night And he broke And he broke the mold When he did that song You know, Home Girl You know And it's been some more I mean, you got a shout out to Sergeant Jay for breaking the mold When it came down to a bus It and that You know, so You got some monsters down there For sure You know, East Texas Got some heat You know, with the guy He was actually asking him about Doing numbers You know, doing numbers Better numbers than they doing up here You know what I'm saying And you can't deny him So at the end of the day I think it's something that You know, you can Lock the door how you want to But the door gonna get kicked in When it come down to the music In certain situations But I give you an analogy, right You got a high school like Skyline or Allen That got 3,000, 4,000 students And then you got your high school In the country that had how many people Some of them come with it We've whipped up on No, you probably will You got your five and six Eight schools down there Just as well But you do have some smaller ones Right So when you talk about the smaller School You will get a couple of Athletes that come out of there That's D1 That goes pro That goes pro For sure I know him personally You know what I'm saying But if you look at Who puts out the most It's gonna be where the most Volume Where the most volume is And that's kind of what happened It's like A lot of times People overlook the country Not to say that the country Can't put out an artist like The artist of Tiltop Oh, yeah Or Psecobeat Exactly You know what I'm saying That's doing those numbers But most people will expect From a majority of the talent To come out of the city It's just more chances Because it's more people But then you have a freak of nature Like Pat Mahoney That comes from out of the same area And kill the whole nation That's true When it comes to football So, you know You just never know You never know And that's... You know But the thing you can't be Is disrespectful Because at the end of the day When you shout out to Little Runny and people like that Who knows If you don't go through that East Texas demographic And come back this way Because even Mo3 My partner Rory was here Mo3 was down at the club Before he passed away So, you know They would go... I remember them Frequent in those areas Just to get their music Out there from the very beginning So when you see These type of things And hear those type of statements You know That you gotta take them With a grain of salt That is real Again I don't really take stuff That's said on the line That personal Yeah And maybe because We've been doing this You know this blogging Interview thing You guys are dope I kinda see it more So like People just trying to Find a way to bring Awareness to their brand Yeah And unfortunately Well In anything Controversy sales Like most movies Isn't successful Unless they have some type Of conflict In a movie That overcomes You know what I'm saying Like people like a conflict Yeah And then we like to Try them story after the conflict So When I look at True talk Do what he do When I watch Rainwater Do what he does Or tune Do what he does Or Dallas Global Do what they do I don't take No personal merit to it But sometimes The theatrical can Move from being Theater To something More realistic Because There's a thin Line in between And it just takes One person Really saying something That got on Somebody's nerve In a way And then it's taken To the extreme We've seen that Even in Hip hop I mean blogging But no It's still words You know people always say Words don't hurt you But in fact They do So It can happen It can happen But the thing I like About it is We do got Some sparring Going on And we got Some things that Are drawing attention To those guys So much so That they getting cocky They say man I'm being real Like they really On it like that Like yeah It's about us now We getting the numbers And you know Hey man I hear them But at the end Of the day it's a lot Of talent pretty much In our culture And I like it Because you look at Toon You look at Terry Manizha Young black man No kids You two Making a bank Bank row Every month People know Who they are Everywhere they go It takes Even the most Humble man can Become drunk off power If he's not Careful And sometimes You know You watch these young guys Kind of navigate their way And you hope that they Find a way And they find a balance Because too humble You get boring And get forgotten about Too over the top Put yourself in danger And you lose everything So it's Hopefully they can Find a way But I think those guys Mature enough to know That they got a lot Going on And they not willing To lose everything But it takes having A team around you Not necessarily The people who Work with you But example Like you're good friends With It's good to When you see something Happen Hopefully it's not something That is too Out of there Where you can't pull it Back You can pick up the phone And say hey Don't react to this Or they listen Because they respect you You know what I mean That's I've seen Like Mr. Lee He was on here yesterday And he was talking About certain instances Where People didn't have A person around them That they can say Hey don't do this Or do this Or don't do that And know that They can listen to them It's always these Yes people That say Yeah, yeah, yeah You know Go ahead But they think In one thing But it's saying Something else Just for the cloud And it's true Because people Don't want to get Yes people Don't want to lose A position They see this person Going up and up You mess around You're right But what we see And that was No different than What we saw in the 90s I mean imagine If Tupac had Instagram You know what I'm saying It'd be off the chain You know what I'm saying Like imagine That whole East Coast West Coast beef If Twitter And how bad That already went On its own What it would be Like with social media So Like I said Again I get these kids Kudos Who able to Navigate this Space Because it is tough In the world That's tough You think those rappers Would have been able to Convert to this New society Of everything on the internet Because there's so many Artists who couldn't I don't know I feel like Tupac would have Crashed out I don't think so He was already Anytime a camera came Out anyway then Which was the Only media Social media He was spazzing out I don't I feel like Tupac would have Been beefing With a lot more people I get it But he still Would have been up Yeah for sure For sure You know but I got this list That Trill Talk done And you was on that list Okay How did you feel about that List? Did you feel it was Even accurate or close? That was The blogger list Yeah I mean It was cool It was cool list I think it was Pretty much accurate It was a good list I think who he had Number one He had Say cheese I mean That's all that matters Everybody else falling Who number two And three was two Three was Yeah two Yeah I mean In real life Street stars was the name Shout out to real life Street stars I feel like I don't know why People we don't Put them Like two Yeah When you're Reading all the comments And I didn't go through And read all of them But there was this one Person There was this one person That they kept saying He didn't like it They kept saying No he was cool with it When he responded He was cool with it But then all the The other people He shouldn't have been put All the way to the bottom Of the list He should have been further I don't know who that was And I think they were talking About I think it was TCT TV Okay That's the one That said should have Been higher up Okay Would you ever do a list Like that No I think I want to Stay with the gatekeeper List I don't really Want to do the blogging List I don't want to do The artist list I feel like I'm not even in tune To do the artist list I feel like I'm not To do none of that I like when other people Do those lists Because they always Introduced me to people I didn't know I got introduced to TCT After the fact You know what I'm saying After that list dropped So I think the list Is a good thing Because it highlights A lot of people That you may not know Existed Yeah and for him to go out And seek out And understand Who all these people Are like that That's dope I mean When you do it It's dope Like man You guys are killing it When it comes down As far as you Concerned With what you think About the market You know Maybe if we did a list Together No we're not doing a list We've been like Who got the best quality In this No we're not doing a list That's what I'm telling you We're gonna do a list Alright but it's gonna be A list of people Looking at how we working You know what I mean That's our list Who got the Who the three that got The best quality In this city You know I don't know But I just know That we're gonna go in Who the top two I don't know To be honest with you I don't see nobody flexing Like me Get some Get it off I don't You name one Not nobody does What we do Oh man Get it off But at the end of the day I got a little bit of Edge over them Because I'm experienced Man I'm an older cat You know So I mean You got all these young kids This is a young man game So I respect Everybody that's doing this I ain't come in here Or just Like I'm gonna Check this And check No I love All these guys I'm trying to tell Because of the way in which Everybody Have their unique way Of interviewing No absolutely See not everybody Who watched Like me like Or a way Somebody might like A different way I love your way And I love the way I think you You ask a lot Of good questions I'm saying Man I appreciate it When I hear you Doing what you do I've watched interviews Now on people that Try to do what you're Doing and I mean I don't know You know say cheese Does this thing I ain't going into your own way And I like it I'm telling you I think we That's why it's great That we got so many platforms Some people try to say Hey man The interview thing is getting Oversaturated I said it's not enough No you're right Because sure We may ask similar questions But the styles Will never be Exactly the same And the more platforms We can create The more that More avenues That black businesses And young black entrepreneurs Have to come Express themselves And be heard So I encourage Anybody out there You got an idea Especially when it comes to media Do it You know what I'm saying When people look at Sorry baby When people look at it It's not really Mainly an interviewer They're looking at Okay say example Say cheese got Interviewed by Every single platform They're like Another say cheese Interview You know Because I feel like You can only say The same thing Over and over again But what people don't Realize is that You're going to ask A certain amount of questions And we might touch on Some of those But we'll touch on Some other things And bring up things where Because we've had people Come on here And be like I thought it was going to Be about music We had no heart You know But you want to touch on Everything And I'm sure there's somebody Else who will interview That will ask questions That none of us Even ever thought about Asking But being a consumer Watching it They're like It's the same person Again It's the same person Again So they're not Going to spend That time To figure out that It's really different questions No, absolutely That's true That's true Because I kind of see that With Charleston White I will watch Charleston White Interviews Her certain platforms Yeah Versus others Yeah But again That's me being a fan Of the person Who asked the questions Usually If I'm going to stop And watch that interview Yeah Or not So again Have I had something to say About being on that Gatekeeper list It was like Man I don't care About those lists Man I don't even care You care You think you care It's easy not to care When you're on the list Sound out to my boy Halfpipe So you think you care Yeah It's easy to say Man I don't care About this list When you're on the list But when you weren't on the list Then He's going to have Even more Especially if it's somebody On the list That you felt like Man, hell no They ain't even On my level And they on there Make you bliss He said I don't know I don't even care You know what it is That's the second time Being on that You know what it is Don't do that to me Halfpipe Man I need all my clouds So The apparel that you're doing For And you supposed to be Bringing something But you didn't Yeah I'm working on it Make sure you bring it Next time Or either bring it over I'm going to bring it In the store Once we get it Everything going I'd love to have that In here See And this Dallas And this is where you Pretty much came Over with your gatekeeper list Yeah, absolutely So what it is It's called gatekeepers So it's really I wanted to bring Something that's a little bit More premium Something that's a little bit More mature So you know what I'm saying It's like a But in the polo Type shorts But you know what I'm saying With the The key and the lock Pattern You know what I'm saying And it changes Over the shorts And I'm playing around With it I got a pair of shorts And a sweater With each logo And I got some that Sublimated Trying to see Which way I wanted to go But I wanted something That was just like casual It's like you know what I'm saying And then my mogul Just like my standard mogul gear I mean I didn't Get any more of the Urban and sweats And the t-shirts But that gatekeeper I wanted something That's simple Kind of like How this LaCasse shirt is It's just You know it's like He's just doing the logo And not doing the work He's like the premium Brand look on this There you go Premium Or street Yeah We don't get him there I'm trying to take you to the show We going to Vegas Y'all gonna go? I'm gonna go You talking to your wife? I'm gonna talk to her Okay But if she don't go I'm gonna go I'm gonna sign you up Yeah man Get me the information I'm trying to figure this thing out I'm gonna get you in there With us And we gonna get in there And you can take a look For two or three days If you decide to stay Three I probably use to stay Two and leave on the door Yeah I need two I was just out there A couple of days ago And I think I was out there Is it Has it started getting busy Out there? Yes Because I know that during the pandemic It wasn't that many people going Well it's packed So the weekend I went out there Two weeks ago Dre has opened up For the first time So that was the first night Shout out Dre It was jumping All the way lit You know what I'm saying They weren't enforcing No mass No nothing It was lit It's turned up again So where do you see Media in the next Say two years Man you know I I'm really trying to turn Mogo Media Into a network Okay So not only do I want You know My interview platform on there But I want to Bring other creators On to my platform So different shows Okay So you won't just get My interviews I'm working With somebody right now South of sweet June Media Me and her talking Or working on something So you know what I'm saying It's like I'm trying to do A couple of different shows On that platform So it'd be like The Mogo Network You know what I'm saying Instead of just I don't mean Mogo Media But Mogo Network Whatever Instead of just Mogo State of mind Interviews Yeah Shout out to Famous TV We'll be on there We're on Actually on CW Network Okay We'll be on there On July the 2nd July the 2nd 12 o'clock Yeah So we working Man We're just working A little bit Man Mogo News We just We just thank God That we was able to Come to this place Man Where we'd be able to Step on the stage And be able to deal With guys like you guys Man No, for sure I think again Man My flowers go out To you guys Man Y'all came in this Thing And y'all ain't playing Y'all bored Dozing it Over Yeah We working I don't think Nobody's putting out Like every day Like we do We give them a break You know I could If I had You know When I bring my wife I'm going to be on y'all ass I believe you will too Because that's It take that man It helps man When you got somebody That's Like my wife She does all A lot of different stuff It's a lot of different Moving parts People don't realize How many moving parts There are It is Just a lot Because I refuse To do write ups Yeah You know Like people do Like the whole I don't want to do that I barely even Want to do the title The only reason I do it Is because We got to make sure It's right Because it's going from YouTube to Podcasts Gotcha For Spotify Apple And Google podcasting So all that Have to be right When a person Goes on those platforms Have y'all jumped the Patreon yet We are on Patreon Yeah we are I need to take advantage Of that I haven't gotten on Patreon yet And I thought about Possibly Taking my interviews Audio only too Yeah That's what I'm saying You need to do it It's simple No I mean You've done it before Yeah I got a Spotify For mogul moves only That was my podcast Yeah Why were you thinking To take it only that way Not only that way I'm saying Add that But I just got to find a way To monetize it And that's my thing At the time That I was doing it I wasn't making no money I'm like I'm just dropping I think it's going to come I think Like I think what you Should have done Was doing it And I think you would have Seen the drive and the downloads Just keep increasing Yeah Because it's always Downloading Maybe if I were to put a Feed it out later Because I don't know man Like It's simple ways to do it Because she Project these things before Like months and months It just goes Once you load it one time She's scheduled everything To drop Yeah Because like I was looking At my numbers My numbers on Spotify Was doing alright Apple music Was doing cool Yeah But he's just talking about Monetizing it Platform this free content They continue to make money They're making money Off the content And all I'm getting Is just Bragging rights to say Yeah I got a podcast And listen to it Exactly But I think Like I said I think as you go I think it grows I talk with Jack Taylor And he was talking about The fact of How they're gaining momentum Is because of Sponsorship That's all I'm about And that's where They're That's where they're winning And I think that's something We're going to start But we just wanted to get Everything built up first So I'll go out and I'll have I got a guy already That's going to do That marketing campaign To go out and tell people Hey we'll sponsor you As the numbers grow Which you already Had a capability No for sure And y'all I mean y'all Y'all got so much room For product placement Oh yeah we're chilling right now Y'all got so many places Where people can System stuff with All these cameras I can kill it I can kill it And special with her She's dope when They come down to Just organizing things To where people It'll appeal to the masses Right No for sure Do you think that Do you think that mogul media Is something that You want to take You say you want to take it To a network TV and all that or no No I'll actually want To create my own Your own server So like my own network As far as not TV I think TV Because TV is playing It's a dinosaur That's right What about your own server And harnessing your own Your own media Your data so that Nobody can ever take it down And maybe you can Drive people to it That is the case I get what you're saying Because at the end of the day No matter how much We want to say we are Our own bosses You're working with someone You got a partner Instagram, YouTube, Facebook Can all say I'm done I'm done and boom Tomorrow you're gone And you have to take mercy That's right You know what I'm saying That's why I be kind of You know I be worried about Sean Like he got great content Well, Charleston Yeah But I'm scared Like You can wake up tomorrow And you're 800,000 subscribers It's gone It's gone Because y'all talking Some real things But it may be just a little too Against the community rules That causes You know something great To be gone And you got to start over Wow And so that's the thing That I worry about So I'm always open ear To possibly doing that But if Donald Trump Hadn't been able I know he tried to do it But if he hadn't been Able to do it With all his resources yet That may be tougher Than what we think Because again Or as the server side The server side Because like my whole thing Is like You can put your own Platform up Like And you can talk However you want No threat And nobody taking it down But it also has to be hosted By like Let's say if you want to Have an app Right If the app store Is Apple The Play Store Or the Apple App Store Don't want to carry it Somebody phone Something They can block it And then Because that's what happened To What was the other one That all the Trump supporters Start going to After they got the Camera Par Yeah The little Stores You know what I'm saying The app store So It's a tough grant We just got a forecast Where everything is going What's the next big wave We got to create it That's what I'm saying But so that's what we're trying to see I know like AI, artificial intelligence That's on the rise I'm trying to figure out Where these robots at Yeah You need to find someone In each category That you need So you need to find Another business owner Who can do the apps Yeah You know Somebody who can team up with you You can deal with this action So you actually create Your own network With these people Who are, you know Professionals in their own Category No, absolutely You know the Apple stores I'm expensive I think it's like $150 $160 a month To host that app Your app on there Each month Man, I thought I remember the idea I came up with a while back About three years ago And I was thinking about Doing it And it's like You like If I had done it Where do you think it would Be now You know what I mean Like I have some deep Some thoughts about Doing things to educate people And come up with ways To capitalize on understanding That market For sure That's what I was trying to do For the apps And for how do you Play the game To understand when all of them Are being developed And who the developers are Absolutely That's how you win You got to go to them And understand what's going on With them In order to You know In order to understand The whole way that They're developing them And how fast they're coming out Knowledge is powerful You know So you've got to figure it out Like that You've got to go to Who's doing it And the way to get in those Doors to support them Like we're doing on these Platforms for YouTube And all that other stuff We'll start to learn about Because everything is such Is so Apple and Android Yup That's it Is it possible Well I know it's possible Oh it's very possible But how expensive It is to create another You'd be amazed at what Too very Apple Well Apple and Google Yeah Yeah Yeah And them some Was able to create something To be in that algorithm as well I think the The creation part may not be The heart Well Yeah creating it may be tough It's like where do you Host it Because they create I'm talking you create Everything from scratch So you would be Like an Apple Yeah But you'd be a pair Yeah And you come up Could call it pair right Call it pair That would be funny Yeah that's real Yeah Like hey you Apple I'm a pair No Or maybe It may not be as hard Because we think it is We think it is That's what I'm thinking That Because they did it So why can't somebody else I think it's just indulging In that realm And injecting yourself Into understanding What's going on What we have already And I think that's Where you find the answer Somewhere in that Whole situation But you got to be Very indulged You got to put up money Just like we're doing With these platforms You got to If you want to know About it People respect money People respect Putting up money And when you put up money Educate yourself With what they're doing And how they're doing it By really promoting A lot of the stuff That they're dealing with I'm telling you Then you can begin To understand that algorithm But also Even if you understood Everything The thing that just came To my mind is If I'm a multi-million Dollar company like Apple And I get Billion dollars Sorry And I get wind of A company that might Be coming up I'm going to smash it No Not if you do it right Not if you do it Like I was talking about doing it You know what I mean What you understand What I mean Because you have You have those companies They're not going to smash Because Facebook Do it all the time Like when Snapchat came That's how First Instagram came Facebook bought Instagram They tried to buy Snapchat Snapchat said no But now that's how We got stories On Instagram They took Snapchat thing And then Snapchat had the filters And so then Facebook They bought WhatsApp too They just Understand the time But it's not It's not as strong As it was Because they keep Having all these other avenues That they're buying But look at TikTok It steps in And it starts Knocking people down But then Instagram Creates Reels Which is their version Of TikTok To try to Because they was Making on You remember TikTok was almost About to get out of Their band In the U.S. So Instagram came Out with their reels And it could still Happen like that That's where Reels came from Are you on all these platforms? I'm not on TikTok You need to be And I'm on Twitter But I'm not active on Twitter Me, I got about What, 800, 900 people That I deal with on Twitter I hate Twitter I got Twitter I got 2,000 on TikTok But I don't ever use it I got a lot of stuff On TikTok you be getting Man, I just don't Have enough time In a day I don't even be Upgrading They still sitting there Waiting There's so many platforms That you have to remember Because there is An audience That you have to remember To post Because remember If you are on Snapchat Some people who are on Snapchat Because I hit up People on Snapchat And tell them Follow me on Instagram And a whole bunch of them Tell me I'm not on Instagram So you have to be Posting Snapchat Posts Instagram Posts TikTok Posts Wherever and everywhere Just to try to Make sure that You are being known Leaving no rock unturned Exactly Dallas Hey, hey I'm gonna be honest This is a big problem For people like us To understand We like the new news We get people information But also we get people Healing And, man, shout out to us Shout out to y'all All of us New to You do I got 29 cameras You can do it too All y'all missing It's the weather Say, man Let me check Let me check it One time Hey, thank you For coming on the show any time like we love it when you pull up to be honest with you man you don't next time I'm gonna pull up I'm gonna have my own makeshift award it's gonna be out of cardboard box I'm gonna move y'all gonna take a picture up there it's gonna be here right this guy I'm gonna give my clout so I think I think like I said before the years over we're trying to plan something to where I can bring everybody together they've been on the platform it may be I know telling what it's gonna be at we're still deciding on it but I'm putting up money to bring everybody on his guest and you guys are definitely gonna have a good time coming it's gonna be formal or no I want to dress up I'm like now we want to every woman wants a reason to really dress up I'm a mogul so I'm trying to dress up to see okay that's cool actually let everybody else think is urban so then I can dress up and then stand out does he own the place if it's an evening attire and everybody has dressed up then you have to go even higher to say you know what I gotta make sure I stand up even more than everybody else so it makes your game go I just thank you for coming on and I thank you man you working up on that award man that's all I can say man boy you working I mean you come back to you talk trash to us and we love so hard we just giving awards cuz we love and we say man you know that guy's accomplished you know that's a whole game man so you haven't beef about that that's like how you because I want to award not just for the music but I want to see you doing a lot more than just a music got you give back you know who have you been helping with what you've been doing my question is this though if people are showing that they're giving isn't that kind of like this tasteful though exactly cuz it's kind of like almost like you see in this person feed the hungry you see in this person do everything and they put in front of the camera don't they kind of look like okay you're not really doing this to help you really just doing this so people can say oh look how much they help me yes and no but when I say that today society everybody have a phone everybody love to be posting everything so say say cheese and everybody know who say cheese is he goes down here to the homeless shelter and you know serve food or whatever somebody's gonna see him down there and be like yeah that's that's that look a lot better you see what I mean look a lot better than his own phone and once they post him and have a good caption somebody's gonna share it and be like hey say cheese is down here that it's gonna get out there but maybe people moving like Jesus you know Jesus healed people was like don't tell nobody if you do if you're told yeah they did listen to God so because if you're doing great things people are gonna want to talk about it even as they come over here and say such and such happen but don't tell nobody it's okay I'm gonna go tell this person said don't tell nobody keep going around yep so it's gonna get out got to me I definitely want to thank you for helping give me insight on different things man again and I want you to keep going and if you need me you know I'm there so we love you bro and every time you come you always drop jewels I know that I'm gonna get you offline and ask me a couple more questions about some things that you doing behind the scene and I just appreciate you bro and I appreciate y'all say man's been another great segment of boss talk 101