 Welcome to the original gangsters podcast. I'm your host Scott Bernstein quick hitter edition. We're going out to the west side in New York give a little bit of a Genovese crime family update, some housekeeping I want to do. First, let's just break down the administration. I think there's been some misleading reports over the last couple years, some more dated reports. So we all know Barney Belomo is the boss, the boss of bosses most powerful. Don in New York City he is basically a ghost doesn't really show his face, very secluded, almost bunkers to have leadership that's kind of how you have to do it. But these days I mean Tony Soprano said it, while back. Ernie Muscarella is number two at the underboss spot. People know that we reported. It was late last year that Patsy Perrello, after he got out of his racketeering bust was up into the administration we're putting him at constantly area right now. But I think the piece of the puzzle that keeps on getting misreported is the street boss. Danny Pagano is the street boss of the Genovese crime family the West side he is the final say day to day at the street level reports directly to Barney and Ernie. He had been a street boss in the 2010s early part of the 2010s had to deal with some legal problems go to jail for a couple years. And he's retaken the position like four or five years ago he retook the position, but a lot of current reports have him still as a cop. But I want to be very clear that that Danny is the street boss and then that will lead us into some other news that has been popping up related to Danny and I want to again have some clarification and some of this reporting was dated and I don't want to impugn where this is coming from. Jerry Capacy, you know, I always tip my hat to him he is the godfather of of American mob writing crime writing, none of us would be doing what we're doing now people, you know, of my age, if it wasn't for Jerry, and Jerry consistently still hits home runs even in his 70s he's knocking balls out of the park breaking news, and we got nothing but respect for that but we just want people to understand that At least last week in his room in Jerry's column he talked about a rivalry between Genevieve Skipper, Tommy figs figgy fecorata and Danny Pagano. When they talked about Tommy figs who we have spoken about recently getting booted out of the carpenters union. He had been a point man for Barney and the Genovese in the Manhattan construction rackets. But the term rivalry, I think, got people talking and speculating and, and again Jerry's credit he cited some some court reports court filings and some stuff from back in 2014 so about 10 years ago. He didn't really follow that up. He said, you know, back in 2014 or 15 they were described as rivals. But kind of left it open ended. A lot of people assume that meant that they were still rivals. Again, I just want some clarification on that for my audience. Danny and figgy are not rivals. They're, they're working together. There are no more hard feelings. There was an issue around that time that Jerry was citing that from 2014 15. There was some issues in the construction rackets that resolved in a couple sit downs that that Barney had to oversee with Tommy figs being on one side and Danny Pagano being on the other side. It never reached a point of, you know, vitriol or where they were trying to hurt each other. It was a, you know, a typical occurrence in in any mob family you're going to have sit downs you're going to have business beefs that that will get resolved and you won't be able to hear about it after that. So there might have been a small amount of acrimony between Danny and Tommy figs 510, I should say 10 years ago, but nothing in recent times. And also, I think that the fact that it's being positioned as or categorized as a rivalry. I know that some in Danny's camp saw it. A little bit of a slap in the face because at that time Danny was the street boss. Tommy figs was a couple. So I think it might have looked like they were on some type of even playing field when Danny is always, or at least more recently has been on and off at higher in the pecking order with the Genovese than Tommy figs. You know, Tommy figs is just a really interesting character if you're if you're going to check out gangster report our companion web magazine. I did a story about him. On the streets he's known as Tommy figs or figgy, but in his other life he sensei Tom. He is a very well reviewed black belt in Brazilian jujitsu he teaches classes became a black belt I believe in his in his 60s. There's a self published book that was written about his journey in the in the martial arts. So it's pretty interesting. You know, since they Tom is also Tommy figs. So, you know, Tommy figs came from, you know, came up under guys like Ernie guys like Tommy Palmer Tommy Greco Jimmy from Jimmy from eight streets and Sarah. He's a head of that old Jimmy massera crew. And Danny's just running the street everybody loves Danny. He's got respect, you know, across all five boroughs, you know, Bernie allows him to speak for him on the streets, and with other families and just as a guy that is top to bottom what it means to be La Cosa Nostra in a day and age when that is kind of far and few between