 up here during spring training that you don't really expect a guy like wiser who was the international league pitcher of the year he didn't have great numbers in the big leagues but his numbers in triple-a were good so I don't know who that guy is going to be next year but you always seem to have some surprise pitchers come out of camp right and we don't know how the Yankee rotation is going to shake out and where pitchers like Clark Schmidt and Domingo Hermon are going to end up so right when you're trying to figure out the Yankees for 2023 I actually think the bullpen is a spot where they have some strength they have some arms they have some numbers with that being said general manager Brian Cash was quoted recently as saying he's always looking for bullpen hope and that's what every GM is going to say if you see an arm that you think can help you at the end of games you're going to try and pursue it but Bob I'm going to answer the question you asked John I think Holmes should come back next year as your closer I think he lost a little bit on that sinker as the season wore on whether his release point whether he couldn't find his slot who he was in the first half of the season if he can revisit being that pitcher he was the best closer in baseball he had some injuries too and they say he's going to be healthy going into 2023