 Welcome to the metal voice today on the show. Wow. Look at this You know the quiet riot legacy or the estate will call it. We've got Regina banally and of course Alex grassy The guitars are quiet right. This is a treat. This is great. Thank you guys for jumping on today Thanks for having us. Yeah. Thank you for having me and Alex So the cool thing is I bought this a long time ago. This was like the original one the rehab Mm-hmm, right. So there's gonna be I guess it's released now, right the rehab What is it relapsed and remastered? Yeah, and it includes the new song You know the Kevin Dubrow song the lost song will call it the lost new song the lost old new song I'm not sure how to phrase it. I can't hold on right written by you and Kevin, right Alex. Yes 20 years ago actually we wrote it. All right. Let's just touch upon that song like what you found it on an iPod You had to it was just guitar and vocals. What was that? It was guitar and vocals on an iPod. We found it last year and we had Frank He left behind a bunch of drum tracks to use for exactly what we use it for and we got together in the studio and Figured out that it could actually work extracting it off the iPod and basically Rudy finished it up I've added some guitar solos Regina play tambourine and Came out it came out really good We brought in some background singers. Yeah, you did you did it sounded actually I was pretty impressed with the song I was really impressed, you know first of all the quality is pretty good The audio quality is great You added the drums you reverse sort of engineered this correct like you add. Yeah I mean out of necessity we had to go with the with the tracks We had to work with I mean what you hear on that demo Kevin recorded it in his home studio him and I did like in 2003 and He had a nice microphone and he had the right pipes and thankfully it all translated to 2023 22 I mean, you know and and that guy AJ that we worked with is a genius editor And he really took it apart and and nuanced every little note and and we Really took it in and listened and we played around with it And we tried things and we lived with it for a while and then we try different things We live with that for a while and we really took our time with it and just baby this Until it was perfect Like how long yeah guys to the put it to set us it months months. I mean yeah I mean working on it every day, but it was over the course of months Yeah, to give you an idea how long we worked on it the last mix that we sent him to get mastered is mix number 39 It was 39 revisions on that song This is like 2003 Mm-hmm, so you had one of those iPods where you just sort of like, you know the little what do they call the wheel? Yeah, it was it came off the CDR because Kevin used to give me we we worked for you know Weekend out in Vegas where he lived and then he come to the airport and give me a CDR of what we did So I dumped the CDR into my itunes which got transferred to an iPod and then disappeared So the CDR is long gone too. So that was the only copy there was the song getting a lot of airplay on the radio Yeah, we are it is it is I swear it's going on itunes. It's itunes has been very difficult with that But it will end up on itunes Ideally it should have been when we released it, but it just didn't work out that way Regina is there any other songs like floating around that you guys forgot about? All kinds there is so much so much stuff in my garage and in storage units that I have to Take apart and like Formats that I don't even know how to play things on so it's entirely possible that there are that there's more But I don't know Alex what do you think? Well, I know that I wrote about seven or eight songs with Kevin during that time a couple of which ended up on rehab and You know based on you know it once we get into all the CDRs and all the files and you know There's definitely more out there It's just a matter of if we can dig it up and if we can make it work the way this one did but I you know with a thankfully we have AJ who's who's kind of like he's like It's crazy how talented the guy is this is right up his alley. I mean Because it's not only a production thing. It's a digital editing thing because it's all after the fact So yeah, I'd say that's a very good possibility Alright Alex tell me about rehab and you're like, where did you fit in when that album was Being made I mean you're in the band then you kind of like Went in and out of the band then you get back got it back into the band Maybe you just want to tell me what really happened Well rehab started with Kevin by writing the initial five or six seven songs we did two of them got Eventually got on the rehab, but Frankie was writing with a guitar player named Neil Citron and Kevin was writing with me and then Glenn he was got involved so it's kind of a mishap like three or four different writers and The album eventually came out in 2006. Yeah, and it but it never got released digitally. So The thought process on this was let's add this song in that was initially written for rehab It just didn't was supposed to go on our next record. Unfortunately Kevin passed away at that point But um the thought process is let's put it on iTunes and Amazon wherever you can get it digitally because it's never done on that platform or any of those platforms before Regina do you think that this is sort of like the the gem of the catalog that just never really Got out there. Um, I think it's the gem of the catalog other than mental health, obviously It's they were much more mature and better writers and they put and they put a lot of time Into is this wasn't one of those albums that they're throwing out on frontiers Sorry, no offense frontiers, but it's not one of those This was that this was this was a labor of love that they really took their time on and they put a lot into it And they wanted to write something that they actually liked That was more direct from their personal influences like Like spooky tooth and uh all all of the 70s albums that they were Raised on and that actually made the musicians. So, uh, this is more personal and mature and um it kind of Of It didn't really I Did get the best reviews that they'd ever gotten But it didn't really get that much attention. I think partially because kevin died so soon Right after yeah, but think that that would make people want to go to that, but it didn't they just It just kind of like didn't really Get the love that deserved Yeah, I think that's a good way to put it whatever it be about you alex You listen to the early days of choir riot and then you listen to this album more of a mature Uh direction Well, I think it's because this album was I think the first one they did that was self-funded kevin and frankie paid for it themselves They didn't have to answer to a record company that wanted them to rewrite metal health a million times and you know kevin Kevin and frankie were both really proud of that. I mean kevin got is one of his wishes is a thing A duet with his hero glenn hugh's and then also right with glenn. I mean that's bucket list stuff, man So I'm glad that they got that out before he he passed away because I know he was He said it was his favorite record. He ever did for the band. So all right, cool Regina the estate of quiet riot. So and you're you're in charge of this now, right? You're you're you're like the headmaster Were you responsible for these guys? No, I'm responsible for the name but not those guys because So I You may or may not know I spoke into frankie. I've interviewed him so many times I've always bothered him about quiet riot one and quiet riot two, but you had nothing to do with that Um, I licensed the use of the name for to those people and then I split that with the four guys so that They got paid for it because they've never gotten paid. They've never ever gotten paid for that So I did take the opportunity to license the name to country to to to companies that are out of the country making bootlegs essentially and Hey, they're willing to pay me for the name. I split it with the original members. So they got a check So but this was sort of like frankie sort of last wish. Is that what it was like is just Not really a last wish because he wasn't emotionally invested in that He just was talking with them and Uh, he thought it was a good idea because he was like, well, it's kind of hard to fight Companies in other countries. So if somebody comes forward and they actually want to do it the right way That's right. Um, I think it was great. I think it was a great idea. It's already all those songs were on youtube Yes, so it's not like We're just it's not like you can't get them And it you know, so what so that he didn't see the harm in it so Regina tell me about like your background. So a lot of people understand where you come from, you know director and actress and all that fun stuff God I was an actress a million years ago, but I come from film and television and I Came into it as an actor, but um wanted to be a director and Did some directing before I met Frankie? and then uh directed the film the quite riot documentary that was on showtime And I was supposed to be This was this was the period right now where I was supposed to be off on my own making my independent films but Frankie passed away and Things changed and it's kind of fell in my lap and I am You know, and I will still do some of that but uh, I can't treat quiet riot like a side hustle And it does require Something, you know things to be overseen and and make sure that that it's being respected and that it's being done well and done right and that The guys that are currently in the band are working and doing well and Waving the flag for quiet riot forever Well, you know, there's a lot of people who do die and sometimes the estate does not do justice to the legacy, right? Yes, that happens a lot and a lot of times families Of these people through you know, of course, they don't they're not in the business They're not in the entertainment industry at all and they don't really know what to do They're they they do their business with their grief. They let their grief Direct how they do business and I don't do that I grieve with my grief hat on and then I take my grief hat off and I do business with my business head And I'm in the industry already So I already kind of there's a lot of overlap there and I and I understood and also I worked with frankie with the band as well so I I I don't let I don't let my grief or my emotions cloud things I just make sure that everyone's being respected and that And that it's being done respectfully Okay. Well, I'm like I just want to say that there's some You have to have the fans want some sort of Output and they want to like you like alex found this song. They want that I mean there is a the fans do want that they do want to those hidden gems and alive albums or besides or yeah a lot of times families Covered this up and they and they tried it away and they're like no he's ours and this is and they You know and it's not really in my opinion Doesn't do The the person justice. I think if you have their art and you can keep it out there um I think that that's better. That's my opinion. That's how I do things and other people are welcome to do however they feel but you know What about you alex? What was your first sort of meeting with I don't remember in the documentary how you first met Frankie and Kevin and how you started, you know with quiet riot Um, I met Kevin explains it in the movie, but I don't remember. Go ahead. Uh, not it doesn't really touch on that I don't think um, I met Kevin in 2003 I'm trying to defend some so many things going on I met Kevin in 2003 when he was doing a solo tour He had done a the covers record on with mike varney's label shrapnel and there was no quiet riot at that point and then come 2004 They got that together and kevin called me up. I'll never forget. I was I was in he had he throw a airport coming back from a tour Of london with another band of the uk and I got a voicemail. I called my voicemail and kevin said as soon as he landed call me I got good news I'm like, oh boy What's this going to be and he asked me to join the band and I met with frankie at some Mexican place and sign the contract Next thing you know i'm in quiet riot Yeah, it's pretty much it It's it's a huge legacy, right He's being a little humble kevin and frankie really really Almost raised him to be the musician and that he is Yeah, they really they put him through the ringer, but they really Olded him He was handpicked by by kevin molded by kevin and frankie Yes Was it alex? Was it an uphill battle? I mean, you know, you're you know, if you want to really go back into the history of choir ride randy roads, right carlos And you know, the people expect the certain amount of you know, it's all on you. You know the guitar You're you know, it's one guitar band, right? Yeah, it it was it wasn't really an uphill It was really just finding myself within that music because anybody can clone it note for note Like one of those steel metal shop type bands, but kevin always said make me You know play them the hit song solos note for note But do your own thing and the other stuff too make it your own and be yourself That was the best advice you ever gave me just be yourself, you know, you know, yeah What about you regina? When did you first meet frankie? The first time i met frankie was in in october of 1983 I I was a kid I had a friend who knew them and You're only five, right? I yeah I got the day off from kindergarten And I uh, I went to a few of their shows I had a crush on frankie, but you know, of course they thought of me as like a little kid and uh I you know, we lost touch and around 2009 I was Pitching shows to networks and I was working with Someone and around this time This was like an era like around rock of love when vh1 was had all these like trashy rock and roll shows And among the many shows I was pitching I was working with another rock star who i'm not going to name but We kind of came up with this idea for this show and Around that time I ran into carlo somewhere and then He remembered meeting me when I was a kid, you know So then I just kind of planted in my mind I thought oh, I should like reach out to frankie and and so I reached out and I was like, hey You know, I'm pitching the show and we need guys for this band for the show and um by the way, I met you and And I don't know if you remember here's a picture of me when I was you know, and he and it was like Oh, hi, um I don't think I remember you but um I'm single now and I'd love to take you out for coffee And so I was like, oh Okay, and so we did that and the show never happened, but we got together Okay, all right good Alex long story No, no, it's all good, you know, you know, sometimes in a documentary you have like 90 minutes to squeeze everybody's In there. I didn't even talk about me at him and I in the documentary at all because it was about us So there's there's just so much more information, right about your relationship Yes Alex was it like, you know, I'm watching a documentary and you know, I see quite right and the guy I followed quite right probably since the beginning, right? and The singer changes and the singer changes and did that At one point just get out of control, you know until you found jizzy. I mean it just Uh, you know it didn't it did it didn't it didn't because I think all of us kind of knew That you know, you don't know till you try something and I think having the the unknown guys come in Look good on paper because it's it works for journey but that's not really how journey did it apparently and we kind of found out the hard way but You know, it all led to where we are now, you know And jizzy is definitely the guy. I mean he's he's a pro and You know, we always talk about how he has the same lineage as as like, you know Rudy does and and to a smaller extent I do Coming from the Sunset Strip and being having drank from the same well, you know Um, you know, it's quite right. They would love hate. So there's a lot of there's a lot of Synergy there if you will So we all work really well together, but yeah, it was a little the whole singer thing We did a lot of photo shoots Oh You know, you know, I loved about the film. I'll tell you I think what you did really well was Sort of like the in and out of the bands that portion, right? And this guy came in and that guy came in and this guy came in It was done well where you kind of got the whole history in in about 30 seconds or whatever it was Like a minute or two and it's not easy to do. Right. It's definitely not easy to do, right? Yeah Um What about re-releases like the down to the bone and yeah, that's coming next down to the bone is coming next Okay As far as what else are we missing? We're missing down to the bone guilty pleasures, probably guilty pleasures I don't know. I have to go back through all my contacts and and I'm assuming you can't touch like the quiet riot three and the credit condition critical Cause those are by cbs Sony, yeah, yeah, yeah, although we have We have um sent them papers to get our rights back on all those but They're not cooperating okay Legally, they belong to us, but they're not cooperating and in that garage. Is there are there live albums that you're not Unaware of yes, there are 1984-1984 Yes, in my locked closet and Yes, and in various storage units There are these brills of tapes of live performances. So what about a quiet riot two documentary? I have thought about that. I have thought about taking the current documentary and But I mean it's already almost two hours and then adding to it I well, you'd have to get another angle, right? I mean Yeah, it can't be about kevin dying and frankie replacing him and like yeah, I just That's a lot We could brainstorm right here I know The first documentary was I had a very simple idea and it was supposed to be executed quickly And things didn't pan out that way and it ended up taking five years So I'm a little hesitant To start over because I don't want to spend five years on on another one I hear you. Okay. Oh It's a lot What about new music alex in terms of the next album? right Are you using frankie's sort of tracks that he left behind, you know, are you just yeah Yeah, there's about four or five songs done that we wrote and record two frankie's tracks They're just need to be mixed and mastered and we have to honestly when we found I can't hold on that kind of cuts Of the front of the line with everything else. So now we just got a we haven't really discussed what's next, but We're in a good position. So you and frankie were writing together, right? No, these are tracks. These are brand new tracks that frankie left behind that I've written to and rudies played a song I have hun. I have dozens of frank of frankie drum tracks raw drum and so the other musicians write songs and We can use those drum tracks on them. So he's talking about new songs that he's written and rudies written and Um So it's so it's now it's currently the writers are the band members Okay, all right. So it's going to be a combination what you're saying of some of brand new stuff completely brand new stuff and some of the Sort of uh, we'll call it I don't call leftovers, but tracks that you didn't use that frankie wrote in the past Is that it? No, no, he's no. I'm talking when I say frankie tracks. I mean raw drum tracks. Yeah, okay But raw drum tracks to songs No, they're just no tracks. Yeah So they and they're in different, um, you know Time signatures all kinds of fills and times. Yes, exactly. Yeah, so you're like, oh Here I have this song what and you try out the new tracks and see what goes with it Okay, and you frankie and around what about what about choir ride metal health The the tour you're going on, right? Is this like the whole album? You're playing the complete album from start to finish Is that what it it's about? Um pretty much. Yeah, you know, it's the 40th anniversary of this year and um It's it's pretty much all the you know all the hits Pretty much all the metal health. I believe except for There's one hit one bonus track that we haven't done yet But um and then the stuff off condition critical and it's pretty much those first two albums Is what makes up the set Just come out and see us play Not me. Yeah, we have we have a really busy. We have a good year coming up We've got a really good show so far and a lot more that are going to be announced soon Okay, all right. So this is starting when alex. This is starting. Um, well, there's The band's going to be on the cruise the Jericho cruise in a couple weeks But and then the first tour dates pick up in march. We're doing um Mohegan Sun Casino in Connecticut We're doing seven feathers casino in Oregon in a canyon built Oregon Then we're going back to the whiskey on march 25th for the official kickoff if you will for the 40th anniversary tour M3 we're going to be at m3 festival. Yeah um And we got some dates with skid row again. We did a lot of shows with them last year was a great package And our friends in slaughter were playing with them, you know Just you know, we we we we mainly do fly dates So they're kind of all sporadic around the country. So the routing kind of trickles in but There's about 22 or 23 shows confirmed already for the year Now just come out and see us. It's gonna be a good year. It's gonna be a good tour All right. Well guys, thanks for jumping on Thank you very much, and I wish you all the best. Okay. Thanks for having us. Thank you