 All right, evoke candles, evoke candles. Look at this, you got key chains. Hold on, look at this, this is beautiful, look at this, do you ever see this dot night? I'm sure you've seen this many, many times, look at this. Judas Priest, and when you open it up, you know, it's a candle, it's a beautiful, well-made, and smells very, smells like metal. No, it doesn't smell like metal, it smells like, you know, like a candle. That's the candle I have, and I know you don't make it anymore, but look at his beauty, look at that. Isn't that beautiful? And it looks like some sort of like, I don't know, missile or something, or some cat in there. What is it? I know they don't make this anymore, but there's the other ones, and I'll show the pictures to everybody. There's six by six candles. That's your new band, right? Your Prague band on the side. Incredible Prague album. There's a candles by six by six. You got the Saxon candles, which is beautiful. It's a beautiful, big blue box with candles in there. It's denim and leather. And then, of course, we've got the Judas Priest, which is beautiful. Tell everybody about six by six. Okay, well, the whole thing, I guess the whole thing started sort of a year ago, last April, I think it was, I got contacted. I've known Robert, Robert Berry, because I was in GTR with him. Yeah. So we kept in touch and everything. He came to him, a couple of Saxons shows with me, played in California and stuff, Northern California has been to that. So we've kept in touch. And he just emailed me out of the blue and said, I've started writing with this guitarist, you might know, Ian Crichton. Yeah, I've known Ian because, you know, we've done festival gigs with Saga and stuff, and I was a big Saga fan. What's still in? And Ian's actually one of my favorite guitarists, ever, he said, I've started this band and with Ian, and you're the guy. And I went, yeah. Basically what happened, they'd been writing for a while beforehand. And then Robert's got a studio in Northern California, near San Jose. And he said, you know, we've got these tracks, what do you think? And I flew over there and put the drums on. Yeah. And that's how it started, basically. It was great. And, you know, we get on great, the music's brilliant. We've already started working on the second album now. Hey, all right, I'm excited. I'm excited. Yeah, and we're trying to sort out doing some shows next year. Yes, it's amazing. This is not a project, this is a band, you know. You know what? I didn't have a lot of Prague albums this year. So we did like a top 10 list of albums. And of course, Sachsen was in our top 10 list of metal albums of the year, right? We added like a number six, right? Yeah. But let me tell you, if I had a top 10 Prague list, I would say six by six, your debut album, up there. Up there, incredible. I just think it's fantastic. I mean, there's a little bit of ELP there. There's a little bit of Saga there. There's maybe a little bit of Sachsen there. And man, your drumming is great. Yeah, I mean, oh, thank you. No, I mean, it's generally just sort of, you know, people say to me, you know, what's it like? And I just say, well, just imagine the three of us together. That's what the that's what it is. Yeah, you know, there was nothing set out. We're going to be like this or we're going to be like this. It's just these us three guys. But that's it. Yeah, anyway, everybody go pick it up. Have a listen to it. They have some videos online, six by six. You know, it he reminds me of John Wetton. Right. The vocals, the vocals. It's that sort of sort of that melodic. Yeah. Prague like sound, right? Tongue. Yeah, I mean, Robert's got an amazing voice. Robert's amazing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And Ian's guitar work. Oh, yeah. God, it was funny. There were there were a couple of places when I went over there initially, you know, because they had the demos. Robert had basically put down the templates of the drum parts because he's a great drummer himself. But they both said, look, this is, you know, it said, just do your thing on the tracks. Don't copy what I've just do your thing. Which is great, you know. But he just gave me a taste of the sort of feel of the track, you know, with what he'd done on it. And there are a couple of things on the demos and Ian was gradually replacing stuff. And there are a couple of solos on a couple of the tracks. And I said to Ian, you know, because this is all done with me. It was I was in Robert's studio, but Ian was still in Toronto. So I got him on Zoom. I said, don't you bloody dare. Change that solo. I just told him, I said, that solo is staying. Don't you dare change it. Yeah. Great drum. You know what? And a hat's off to you, man. Some great drum patterns. You know, you're really playing the prog style. Whereas, you know, the blast beats on the metal stuff. But now you're just all over the place, man. It's just, I just, I really enjoyed the album. I thought you guys knew it. That was great. Thank you. How did you feel when you first joined the band? Like, what was that first feeling you got? You know, I'm part of something, you know, that's really, you know, taken off. Oh, yeah. I mean, it was funny because I mean, the band I was in beforehand, Toya. Yeah. Was actually bigger than Saxon at that time. Hey, that's good to know. So, I mean, but the thing was it was just, it was, of course, you know, to join a new thing. Get asked to join a new thing. It's very exciting for me. I mean, we all got on great. The only problem I had initially was, you know, understanding their sort of Northern accents a couple of times, I don't know. You know, I mean, sometimes when I was Toya, Graham had the biggest, you know, accent, the hardest accent, but sometimes I've just like, he'd say something, I'd just sort of, not as if I understood what he said. And I'd go to Biff and say, what did he say? You know, he said he had a really poor Georgia accent, you know, but no, it was great. I mean, we had great fun, you know, initially, you know, just straight away. It was from the off. Now, The Eagle Is Landed has become this legendary live album, so much so that you've come out with part two, part three, and then I'd have it here part four somewhere with the whole sort of three CD set. Yeah. Did the band know at the time it would really connect so much with the fans? No, I don't think so. I mean, for me personally, it was a bit of a bit of a nightmare because I joined the band and they just said, oh, by the way, two weeks time, we're recording a live album. I went, what? Geez, you know, and we did do some, after that tour finished, we went up, you know, that was recorded on the British tour, the first tour I did some of the tracks and then we did a European tour and then we added some more British gigs early in the following year, because we just wanted to get more. Now, originally it was going to be a double album. Oh. So there were a lot more tracks, but Korea just wanted a single album, you know, in a way, it's probably, you know, who knows, you know, whether they, whether the double would have done better or not. I don't know. So those tapes exist, right? Those tapes exist from that era? Some way, but I mean, they're not mixed. Okay. I don't think there's any mixing has been done. To be quite honest with you, I have no idea where those tapes are now. You know, maybe one of the other guys does, I don't know, maybe Biff knows where they are, I don't know, but you know. Yeah, yeah, that's pretty cool. I know that the album has been re-released and remastered and there were some bonus songs on there. Right. Maybe from that tour. Yeah, maybe. I'd have to look it up, I don't remember, but yeah, great album. I love it. It's raw, it's powerful, and it just sacks in in their element, right? Yeah. So Power and the Glory, right? Yeah. I mean, your drumming there is like, you're there to prove yourself, right? Yeah, I was actually, yeah. That for me was like, right, I know how popular Pete Gill was, so that was, I had to prove myself on that. It's interesting because when I first bought that album a long time ago, you notice a massive change. Like, you know, it's kind of like the difference between Dave Holland and you know, when, who's your current drummer? Travis. Scott Travis. Yeah. It was like that difference. Like, okay, this guy's more of a timekeeper versus this guy's out to friggin' play some serious drumming here, right? Right, yeah. I think, I also think, you know, you know, some of it is production as well. All right. You know, I think, you know, I mean the drum. You're just modest. You're just modest. That's what it is. Ain't no production. You're just playing better. That's all it is. That's what it is. Did I show everybody this? They should pick it up. It was on a lot of top 10 albums of 2022. Right. A lot of metal albums. Were you surprised? Were you kind of felt that way or? Oh, no, I mean, yeah. We obviously surprised and we're very, you know, we're very pleased that it's done it, you know? It's great, but, you know, again, I mean, as an album, I think, you know, the songs on it are great. I think the production's great. You're always pleased when something like that happens. I mean, it's like as well. Apparently we've been on a few, with the six by six thing as well, we've been on a few top albums of this year as well, which we're really pleased, or at least, you know, mentioned, you know, so we're really pleased. So, me personally, it's been great, yeah. Good, good stuff. What about a Canadian tour? Any plans for that? Canada for Saxon, yes, sorry. Yeah, I mean, maybe next year, it's just, you know, we're just sort of trying to suss out things for next year. Good, good. So, you guys are going to be on the road next year, right? More or less. Some of it, or what's going to happen is, I mean, we're right in the middle of another album already. Really? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we're right in the middle, you know. How far along are you? I mean, we're quite a way, we're a ways off. I mean, the songs are almost all, you know, the songs are being sort of finalized as we talk, actually. But I think then we're going to release it in 24. And then that'll be a big touring. That'll be a big tour. So, when you mean the album's almost done, do you mean like the lyrics, the vocals, and you're at the mixing stage now, or are you just- No, no, no, no, we've done the writing. Oh, okay. That's just a case of recording it all now. But it's the writing. The writing process is the process that takes the time. My friend, because once, you know, because you've got so many ideas from everyone, pals in ideas, and we work on them, and that's what takes the time. A lot of people don't know, but you can play, you know, you play the keyboards, right? I do play guitar, I don't remember. I play a tiny bit of guitar, a bit of bass, keyboards. I'm no Rick Waitman on the keyboard, you know. No, no. But who is? But, you know, but I get by with being able to write stuff, yeah. So, and a lot of people don't realize, you know, because the drummers aren't usually the ones who are, you know, stepping up to usually write songs, but you do play a role there, you know, and for many, many years, you've been playing a role. Yeah, I mean, it varies from album to album, you know, what, how, but I mean, everyone puts their bits in, you know, and again, as I said, I mean, quite frankly, you know, you know, in a way, it doesn't really matter who writes what, it's the five, it's us five guys that make it what it is. Is it kind of like, hey guys, I got a song and everybody has like one song or a few songs and then you just pick the best ones and there's no like ego? No, there's no ego, things, but obviously, you know, no one, I mean, no one brings in complete songs. You know, people might bring in riff ideas, you know, or rhythm ideas, you know, whatever, groove ideas, whatever, you know, melody. So then we just work them all, we work through them all, you know? I think that's another part of Saxon that everybody loves is because you guys do stick together as much as you can, right? I mean, over the years, there's been changes, right? Because life happens, right? Yeah. But for the most part, you guys do stick around and you try to work together and it's a family sort of a unit, you know? Yeah, it is. And we kind of like that with our crew as well, you know, when we go out, it's great. When we go out on tour, we get all our crew in and it's great, you know? That's cool. It's cool. Get on the old tour bus and off we go, you know? All right. And thank you very much for, you know, Nigel, for joining me. It's always a pleasure. Look forward to see you on tour and some new music. Yeah, we're sort of, you know, sort of lining up tour dates for next year. We're doing the monsters of rock crews. Hey, yeah, that's fine. And we're doing some shows in South America. Wow. Anywhere else in the world that's sort of not typical? No, there's that. And then we hit festival season again. So that'll be all throughout Europe and the UK again. So, but yeah, so I think, you know, we'll be doing a full, oh, we're doing some more shows in Germany as well. We're doing about another, I think it's about another five or six shows in Germany and a couple in Poland as well. How popular is Saxon in Germany? Very. It's like, could you guys? I mean, Germany's been great because they're, they, you know, that Germany's always stuck by us through whatever, you know, the lows and the highs and which is great. But I mean, a lot of countries have, you know, can't, you know, can't, you can't sort of knock it. You know, and I just want to say we're incredibly grateful to all the fans that have stuck with us. And as I always say, we wouldn't be where we are without you.