 Steven Crowder is an individual who never misses an opportunity to dress in women's clothing. You see him here, very excited to get into quote-unquote character. We have him here, really just like, you know, he's vibing for the camera, you know, sashaying, really, really enjoying himself, very comfortable here. We also have him in this dress here, and I think that the tweet really just puts it best. Anything remotely to do with women whatsoever, Crowder, I should wear a dress. Yeah, I mean, he finds any excuse imaginable to wear a dress. Now, the reason why I'm talking about him again is because after the announcement of his divorce, we're thankfully, we learned that his infant babies are not to blame in this situation, so that's good to know. Because I assumed that the children were demanding that they get a divorce, but either way, so after the divorce, you have a lot of people in Crowder's world, his ex-employees, kind of speaking out, and they're spilling the tea, and it's pretty unsurprising what they have to say. So the first is Owen Benjamin, this is a former employee, as Wilde Geeter says here. He's a current neo-Nazi, so you know, take what he has to say with the grain of salt, but what he says here, it seems pretty on brand for Stephen Crowder. So he writes here, When Stephen Crowder asked me to perform with him in Michigan, I said, of course, because he was the team leader, and we were gonna own the left. We worked on a song making fun of transgenderism. Right before showtime, they put me in tight white pants and a bedazzled cape, and he wore a Speedo and leather chaps. I'm a natural bravo, not an alpha, despite appearing very dominant in most scenarios. Thank you for that information, Owen. I followed the team leader's decision, even though it didn't make sense to me. This is my favorite part. How is dressing like degenerate fruitcakes owning the left? I agreed, so I'm no victim, but I felt very uncomfortable saying no, and I didn't want to let down the team. I'm just trying to imagine the situation where Stephen Crowder is like, Okay, welcome, everyone. Hope you had a great weekend. What we're gonna do today is we are going to dress in drag, and it's gonna be so great. The left is gonna be so triggered, and they're all just sitting there scratching their heads. How exactly is this owning the left? Gaaay! Anyways, he says, Over time, I realized more and more that we weren't owning anyone, and I just kept being asked to wear really degrading and sexualizing outfits. It's the main reason I now don't focus on whatsoever, on what religion or political association someone claims. That was a clumsily worded sentence, but I think we get the point. Only behavior, because the only thing Stephen Crowder is owning is a bunch of dresses and a broken home changed my mind. God damn! So again, former employee of Stephen Crowder saying that oftentimes, he would try to pressure them into wearing women's clothing. Now, on top of that, you have, what's his name? Dave Landau, this is the dude who Ethan Klein referred to as a gremlin when that whole Sam Cedar kerfuffle happened, and apparently he no longer works for Crowder as well. I actually was not aware of this, but he is spilling the tea about Crowder. On this podcast, this is the Michael Malis YouTube channel. The podcast is called You're Welcome, and apparently he's going to speak to the hostile work environments at the Louder with Crowder studio, so let's listen. The beginning was great for a while. It really was. It was a lot of hanging out, collaborating, putting out sketches, doing the things that I was hired for. Really important context real quick from Nexus of Midnight. Crowder had another side named not gay Jared, and Crowder made him sign an NDA, and now that dude can't get work. Yeah, so I actually heard about this, and this was confirmed by Candice Elmans of all people during their initial spat when he first announced that the contract from the Daily Wire was a slave contract when they offered him only $50 million over four years. But yeah, let's continue this year. It's definitely a grind, but that was part of it. The pot was sweetened, so to speak, is what I was offered. It was not this gigantic payday that everybody seemed to think. It was almost no bump, but... You didn't get $50 million. No, no, I didn't get... I got about a grand extra a year, but it's hard to talk about money, but I knew that it would help on the road, and he wanted me to be there. So you've got Stephen Crowder saying that the Daily Wire's $50 million contract over four years was a slave contract, but all this dude got for going full-time was an extra thousand a year. Wow, wow. I can't say I'm surprised, though. On more Fridays, and that started being a point of tension, because I started making money on the road, and I did say I would be there on more Fridays, but every time I would show up, he wouldn't show up. And I just said, all right, well, I'm just going to work or go and see my son, and he's in Detroit, and I said, as long as everything was working out, there was a possibility that they could move there. Yeah, they mean your family. Yes. So about a year went by, and things had gotten more tense. Things were more restrictive. For example, I had been more censored as things went on where I couldn't, for example, say the word come. Okay. Like ejaculate. I forgot when I made the joke that was offensive or whatever it was. You could only eat it. You couldn't say. It's going to go in your mouth, not come out of your mouth. I could eat it with a spoon, or I could say yum-yum-yums when referring to it, but I could never actually say... I could eat it with a fork. I could eat it on a ship. I can't finish the rhyme, but you can finish it. I could call... I could refer to... I could go, those are nice gutters you have. You know, it became a little weird because a light was put in where it was his rant button. And it was basically a Dave, don't talk button. Wait, so there's literally a light bulb? What color was the light bulb? There was four lights in a row. There was three lights. Seriously. And when it was head, I wasn't supposed to talk. Was there a regular color light bulb? Or was it like red? It was like a yellow, a pretty bright yellow, like a, you know, like yield. So it's like off-camera, but in your eyesight? Yes. Was he the one pressing the button or was their producer pressing the button? He would press it. So, like Mr. Burns, like he had a button under his desk or the table, and when it's Steven's turn to talk and Dave needs to shut the F up, he presses this button. Yes. How do I get this to happen? That is extremely weird because you have him on, presumably as a co-host or a side host or whatever, but you have a button that you can press when you feel as if, like, you need the attention. I mean, this is a very predictably histrionic fact about Steven Crowder, but it's just kind of, it's just really weird, right? Because it's Diva-like behavior. He wants everyone to know that he's Beyonce and everyone else is Michelle Williams and Kelly Rowland. That's a Destiny's Child reference, by the way, for anyone who doesn't know. All the heterosexuals watching. But anyways, it's just, it's really, it's so bizarre, but anyways, I'll let him continue. How were you informed that there is a don't talk light and what was your reaction? I was pissed a bit because I know my job. I know that he talks a lot. I know that he's the star of the show. I know when to throw him what he needs to be thrown. I know when to sit back. It's what I did with Anthony for years. It's what I did next to Artie. It's what I do. I'm not trying to ever steamroll him. Right. It was just, hey, don't be, don't be funnier. Don't be, that's the truth. I mean, it sounds bitter, but I knew it was true because I was pulled aside and I said, and it was, hey, make sure if you're doing a rant or like you guys are riffing, he gets the last word. You were told this explicitly? Yes. Wow. Is it that maybe he didn't want to talk over you so that the show is called Louder with Crowder but not Loudest with Crowder? Yes. He wants to, it's about a seven, but not at a 10. You can understand that. Yeah, I think that was it. It was all about the title and I wasn't respecting it. So there needed to be a light. And I had to make sure that, you know, he got the last thing. So even if I did have a funnier joke, I would just leave it out. It was important for the fans to not hear it. I always felt that my job as a comedian was to leave out the good one. That's it. I don't know. I've never heard of that, to be honest. I mean, I don't feel like that's a thing, but maybe what do I know? I've never been a co-host. I've heard in radio a couple times. Really? Yeah, but I have heard of it where it's just the star needs to look like the star. Okay. I guess, you know, it's his show. Fine. But I also feel like somebody who's so pro free speech and nonsensorship, he was really about censorship. Okay. But, you know, he was going through, you know, surgery that was a big deal at the time and stuff. I was fairly forgiving of it, you know. And then about a year in, it was February 2022 for the Super Bowl. He wanted me to film a special. Okay. In drag or... I'm sorry. He didn't, I wanted to. You wanted to film a special. Okay. Stand-up comedy. So I had decided I was going to buy the equipment and film the special in Dallas. And we were selling out this theater and he decided he wanted to get back into stand-up, which he had done when he was younger. Okay. And he had just been a host since then. So he said, hey, if I, can I jump on and open it and I'll help promote it? You can help me maybe write some of my stuff, get me back into it and help promote it. And I said, sure, of course. So we ended up selling out two shows, obviously, instead of just one because he was helping promote it and he's a draw. So we went there and Matt McClurey was the opener. He's been on this show as well. People can look back. Yep. Literally autistic comedian, Matt McClurey. Literally autistic. Yes. Yeah. The real deal, the real, the real kind of shooter. And Ken... He's trans too. Yes. You don't know? If he's really passing as a freak. Them, like, their banter is giving me hard breathing. It's just like, get to the fucking point. Holy shit. I get this is a podcast and you're trying to draw it out, but we've been listening for 11 minutes now. And all that we know is that there was a yellow button. Get to the fucking point, Dave. Holy shit. Yeah. He does a great job. Born a lady, but totally. I pulled Steven aside and Steven couldn't do the Monday show. And I said, could Matt come in and co-host with me? He said, yeah. So now it's Super Bowl Sunday. The whole special went great. I paid everybody to film it except for one other person, Tim, who was there to film Steven set. And I was very looking forward to the special coming out. And Monday had... Sunday had rolled around and I get a call from the showrunner that said Matt's not allowed to do the show. How did they tell you? Like literally what they say? Via text. It was just Matt's not allowed. Matt can... It's been like decided something like that. Matt, I can find the text. But the word is allowed. It's not like we don't have time or we won't fit the schedule. The word was allowed. Matt's not allowed to do that. Yes. Yeah. To do the show on Monday. Is there any explanation at all? No. Okay. So I said, that's odd. Yeah, Steven. And he said it was okay. Yeah. And they said, oh, that's weird. I must have gotten mixed messages. So I just text Steven and said, hey, I just talked to the showrunner. I just want to make sure it's still cool that Matt comes in. And he texted me something back along the lines of what's done is done. Oh. And I said... What does that mean? It's your show. Wait. Maybe he had a light. And when the light went on, this vision making ceases. See, you have the yellow light. He's got the red light in his house. It's lights all the way up. It's true. Maybe when I asked him, he was seeing a... Yeah. After seeing this banter, I think that corn pop for prez, your common spot on. A shut up Dave button makes sense to me. One thing I agree with Crowderon. Yeah. Honestly seeing how much he's just going on these tangents and on the superfluous information he's providing us with here, it honestly does make sense. So I do have to agree with Steven Crowder on that. Good observation, corn pop. Green light. Yes, you idiot. Yeah, I know. This is how show business works. It is the business of show. And I am not paying attention to the light. How are you going to show things without lights? You're going to show them in the dark that makes no sense. We've made these jokes before. Yes. Unless it's a movie, I guess. Move it along. Come on. Move it along. This is why I'm sitting here at my demon chair instead of in a nice studio. Yeah. And I said, what does that mean? It's your show, which is what he said. And my phone rings and you know, I don't want to go greatly into the conversation between us, but it was. He's like, do you want to, do you still want to be on the Crowder? And I said, not at the moment. And he starts going off on me. And now there's a ton of people in my apartment who can hear it. Wait, he's literally raising his voice. He's screaming at me. Okay. So literally raising his voice, not just being stern, like to the point where people, it's audible. It's audible. Yeah. Yes. Okay. It's started stern, but then it got into telling me that he owns me in those words. Yes. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. He owns me and once you say it must have been on clearance. I mean, I was on sale, baby. Neither of us can even reach the top shelf. Let alone sit on it. No, no, it's, it's, I was in a basket with a bunch of balls. He, he, uh, I was in a looted Walmart. Yeah. He, uh, it was just, it was, it was venomous and I don't know what he was going through. He got back to the point. So I was going to speed it up, but let's listen with that point. And I just was like, dude, I, this is, it was all this projection coming at me. Let's slow down. Let's slow down because you're a comic, right? Yeah. I'm obviously not a comedian, but there have been many moments in my life when things are so surreal. Okay. I don't know how much more of the second take because again, we started at minute 10, we're 15 minutes in and we've learned two things that Steven Crowder created a hostile work environment, yelled at him. Also, um, had a yellow button, but this is just very difficult to get through. Yeah. He said, let's slow down. I can't take anymore. Um, and the reason why I'm moving along is because there's more revelations about Steven Crowder that I do want to get to. Let's just save that for later. Save this for later rather and get to that. So this is Natalie Corazon, sister of Hillary Corazon, who is married to Steven Crowder or was, but is asking for divorce. Now somebody else had stated that this is for sure Steven Crowder's sister-in-law. And, um, I haven't independently confirmed that, but there is this video on YouTube from her account, uh, 10 years ago where she's making the speech at the wedding and this appears to be the same person. So Hillary, so anyways, uh, this appears to be Steven Crowder's sister-in-law. Anyways, she has kind of been going off on Twitter, giving us some additional insight into the end of his marriage. And, um, it's not surprising. Like what she says is 100% believable. Actually, real Candace Owens knew there was a lot going on behind the scenes, chose to stay out of it, and Steven decided to drag her into this, into his video about his divorce where he placed public blame on his wife. So Candace offered her a platform to get the full truth pretty simple. Oh, wow. So Candace Owens was going to bring on Steven Crowder's wife. Very, very interesting. So this is from the Quivering. I'm out on the Candace v. Crowder thing. It's a horrible look for two very rich people Candace offering to bring his ex-wife on her show and insinuating he was flirting with her in the DMs. Simply for paying her a very basic compliment is gross though. So yeah, this person, her sister responded saying, well, if he's going to blame her and he has a very large platform, this is kind of her attempt to have her voice heard. And I think that that's reasonable. But for Candace Owens to capitalize on that, you know that she's a little bit pissed, but you should do it Candace. There's more. Hope Hilary and the kids have a support system and know how loved they are. Crowder is literally poisoning his relationship with his kids. I know from experience and I hope for everyone involved that he's smartens up. She has a great family that he is trying to keep her isolated from. So this is his sister-in-law saying that he's trying to isolate her from her own family. Oh, and this is this was the one that I really wanted to talk about because it stood out to me. He never had heart surgery. He had an elective surgery on his ribs and he never took care of her when she was paralyzed. He probably spent a total of one to two hours in the hospital while she was there over several weeks. Now, I don't know if this is true. I don't know how much information that she has with regard to their relationship. I mean, she's her sister. So I imagine that she knows quite a bit. But if this is true, this is interesting. But again, take it with a grain of salt because obviously she's going to side with her sister. So there's going to be a bias there obviously. But I mean what she's saying here is really interesting to me. She also wrote who is attacking his children. He's very clearly using them as an excuse like he always does when he wants to get away with something. Remember, he used, I watched Sam Cedar's take on this and he was pointing out how when he was trying to, or when I think H3 was trying to debate Steven Crowder and they suspected that Sam Cedar was going to be brought on, they canceled and he used his kids. Right? It's literally my business that I deal with daily and when a public person like Harvey Weinstein, for example, has been doing terrible things to his wife and everyone in his circle for years, but they're afraid to speak out. It's dire for truth to get out there so bullies stop. So again, referring to not just the wife here, but people in his circle. Now we have Dave Landau speaking out, Owen Benjamin speaking out, not Gay Jared not being able to speak out because he signed an NDA, which is I think is just inherently exploitative and fucked up. Also, I would have loved to share more prior to this, but Mr. Free Speech from Barton Hillary with legal threats. NDAs sealed court orders and attempts to remove the kids from her care. So his own wife, he's bombarding her with legal threats. That's really fucked up and twisted. Dave was wise referring to Dave Landau not to sign an NDA. Steven uses them to control and bully people who attempt to escape his abuse. He's trying to force his wife to sign an NDA right now. That is a huge revelation. Yeah. So basically that's the Steven Crowder situation. Unsurprisingly, he is a huge piece of shit. He creates a toxic environment for everyone around him. And yeah, he's a terrible fucking person.