 You can be forgiven and and actually change course and say like you know what? I was under I was under a strange delusion and I caused a lot of harm and I see that now and shift and if we don't hold That story about people. It's not possible and there's no chance. Yeah. Yeah, if we don't hold that story then the only chance is That good overcomes evil and pitched battle. Yeah, but you know evil is better at battle The only way the only way that it changes is if some of whom we considered evil stop doing what they're doing Yeah, where they they stop doing it so efficiently because they have doubts, you know and maybe they still go to work in their corporate office and and and But they start to go through the motions instead of to really aggressively Develop new, you know lithium mines, you know, they're they're they're just not efficient anymore They're half-hearted in their advocacy of the policies Maybe they don't have the courage to step out and say no, this is wrong. Yeah, but there's something stirring within them a protest even To a certain extent addiction depression mental illness is a form of protest it says it's it's that you're Being is not unified in It's expression Some part of me does not want to do what the rest of me is doing So that can manifest as procrastination a lot of what we see is a problem where the illness is actually health Seeking to express itself. Yeah, and so I think that that's a much more realistic formula for change That you know people have a change of heart and then the question is okay How do we create conditions for a change of heart? Yeah, one of the things you pointed out, you know I was obviously a massive fan of avatar one. Yeah, and and you actually pointed out you're like Yeah, but it's it's telling a story that's actually not helpful And the story is that the animals are gonna come together and the people with the bows are gonna come together And they're gonna defeat the destruction bomb machines by some act of they're gonna defeat the machine guns with their spears Right like this this Romanticized idea of good overcoming evil and pitched battle from sheer and it's a beautiful It's a beautiful thing like the warrior spirit and the connection to a while There's a lot of beauty in that as well and heroism and romanticism But I actually saw that and I was like, yeah, you're right You know, it's actually telling the wrong story and then I watched Avatar 2. I don't know Do you see Avatar 2? No, I was a forewarned, but they just doubled down On that same mentality. I was like man, what a miss Yeah, what a miss what a miss that they couldn't convince the whalers That these beautiful creatures that they were whaling We're like we're as sentient and magical and important as they were and like instead they had to they had to sink the ships and slaughter the Right slaughter the people like it's just not the film just encourages us to think the problem is these horrible people Right now what happens when that is applied to foreign policy? war war And and and the the whole machinery and agenda of war that's like the the the spiritual and philosophical basis for the neocon long game of first destabilizing and destroying Iran Then russia then china I mean if they've they wrote about these plans 30 years ago and have been executing it step by step Not with a lot of success, but you know that hasn't stopped them from trying Hasn't stopped them from trying and You know the I mean it could escalate into nuclear conflict And that in there like I can understand it from their view It's what I just described to understand a situation First identify who's the evil and who's the good Once you've started with that Okay, you're always the good right you're never evil so It's whoever stands in the way of your domination their evil Because your domination is good because you're the good guy So the more power you have the better for everybody. Yeah problem is everybody thinks that the good guy well everybody does. Yeah Yeah, so that mindset leads inevitably to polarization right and that mindset It ultimately comes from a faulty view of the human being Which is in christianity in the form of original sin That you are fundamentally evil. It's in biology in the in the idea of a selfish gene that you know At bottom everybody is just seeking to maximize their reproductive self-interest It's woven deep into the meta religion of our time which encompasses What we call religion as well as science. It's a very deep mindset. It's the mindset of conquest And so everything we're seeing in in global affairs today and in domestic politics This widening division and intensifying polarization All comes from what you might call a spiritual error or a spiritual Journey that we've taken into separation And so when you ask like what what does a kennedy administration look like For it to even happen or for it to be anything that I would support It has to tap into this transition Into a story where we no longer hold each other In that way. It's just what we were talking about to see something else And to be able to stand in that on behalf of our fellows And to receive their holding of us because it it it's so insidious, you know, like I I don't know if you've had these moments where where like I look at my The choices I made in life and it seems like every single one of them was selfish Maybe I was pretending to be loving and generous and something But I was actually on some level calculating what's in it for me And and when I'm when I'm in that mindset It seems so Inarguably true And and You know, I'm just like like wow I'm like the the most evil human being in the world, you know and too cowardly to actually like commit acts of murder in mayhem Yeah, you know like real psychopaths, you know, so I'm like evil and a coward at the same time And it becomes this totalizing reality that that Usually it's it's only when an act of love pierces that Yeah, and when somebody sees My beauty And my love Then it then it reminds me it ignites my own Knowledge that I too am a divine being. Yeah, that's what we have to do for each other And I don't think that anything less than this kind of revolution will be enough To motivate into politics