 It's time for the Mac Geek Gav and listener Pensacola Craig brings us our quick tip of the week with, well many folks do not opt for Apple to engrave their newly purchased devices even though it's free because it may impact resale value down the line. I've been using a technique of branding the device specs in place of personalization. I find it helpful downstream when selling and remembering exactly what it is at a glance. For instance, he would put on the engraving iPad Pro 11 inch 4th generation M2 256 gigabyte. Or quick tips like this, plus your questions answered today on the Mac Geek Gav number 1027 for March 4th 2024. Folks and welcome to Mac Geek Gav the show where you send in all kinds of stuff to feedback at MacGeekGav.com quick tap quick taps sure quick tips to like Craig just did cool stuff found like you'll hear later questions which we try to provide answers to sometimes we bring questions of our own quick tips and cool stuff found as well the goal being that each and every one of us learns at least five new things every single episode we get together sponsors for this episode include a couple of new ones parallels.com slash MGG where code MGG15 gets you 15% off back plays.com slash MGG where you can go and get a fully featured no risk free trial and LinkedIn.com slash MGG where you can go and post your first job for free we'll talk more in depth about each one of those in a little while for now back here in Durham, New Hampshire on International Dungeon Master or Game Master Day March 4th. I'm Dave Hamilton and here in South Dakota I'm Adam Christensen I'm gonna have to jump in on that D&D thing I have not done that a while yeah right it's you know something and here from Pensacola, Florida it's pilot Pete are you the key master of the gatekeeper Dave I'm I don't know I don't know what I am I'm I'm I'm back from Mexico that's what I know so right on there you yep yep hey one more follow-up on that quick tip Pensacola Craig wrote us back again and wrote to you you answered it it was hilarious it was a great idea remember what he what I'm talking about I do yeah he um he when he when he got his Apple pencil to he engraved it number two pencil which which is brilliant yeah I agree yeah yeah yeah we gotta have fun with this stuff but I like that that I liked a lot yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah pilot Pete had to bring up key master look at this oh Adam's got his oh yeah I got my new trono on this week so I'm ready to bust some ghosts let's go let's go let's go yeah this is the reason you want to watch the YouTube folks is is to be able to see that that's why I'm getting up and right away and going somewhere like where's he going where's he going yeah I won't do it now but it has full lights and sound oh yes awesome we ain't afraid of no ghosts here all right Andrew will take us to our next next quick tip he says I had forgotten that hot corners existed it's in system settings desktop and dock hot corners in the far bottom right and it makes getting what I want getting to where I want quicker and it he's right I I'd forgotten about these two it can be really handy for I I have used hot corners to keep a screen from going to sleep while I'm doing like recording or something or you can use it to you know do the quick note thing you can have it put your screen to sleep you can have it you know bring you one corner bring you to your desktop all that good stuff so so I yeah hot corners thank you for the reminder because that's it's good stuff I use I use it and get caught by it so right there yeah that is fair yeah there is like I believe if I'm not mistaken yeah you can if you don't want to get caught by it you can have a hot corner only activate if you hold down a modifier key right what I need to do yeah so if you go into the hot corners settings just like he said system settings desktop and dock scroll all the way to the bottom and then you'll see hot corners dot dot dot and it will come up and if you have multiple displays your corners are not at the corners of your display it's at the corners of your entire virtual desktop so it gets a little weird but if you while you can pick from the menu what you want it to do and if you hold down a modifier key like control shift option or command you can choose to have that hot corner be you know command it require the command key to say do the thing whatever the thing is so that that is a good way to keep from getting getting caught yes yes and it seems like I am oh yeah you can disable screensaver that's that's the one that that I have used in the past but yeah yeah so yeah thank you for that good stuff Andrew you rock feedback at Mackie Cub commas where Andrew and and Craig and I most of the folks here have have sent these in too so Pete's muted so he's he's trying to join in on the fun here but he just can't it's just not gonna happen did I mute you Pete no you're gonna have to just do it okay I'm back you're back that's nice to have I pressed the unmute button three times and it wouldn't play but I was saying I think you wrote the feedback at Mackie cap comm that's where I think you oh yeah for sure feedback at Mackie capcom easy for you to say yeah yeah Pete sometimes we use the stream deck to control our our stream yard thing the browser interface and if sometimes if you have your cursor in the chat window in there any command sent from the stream deck will just appear as as chat yes yeah and that's where I was actually over on the over on the agenda oh yeah my mouse was over on the agenda instead of on the stream yard window so wait you don't have your stream yard macros set to like bring Chrome to the front first I should I should I would agree with that yes I wish it could like go and do things to Chrome even if it was in the background right that would be well that's how it does it by bringing Chrome to the foreground first yes put it back then then just know what I want and do it for goodness sakes that's the thing this is not hard Apple yeah read my mind they'll Intel yeah exactly what's AI all about well not that but you know that's what it's becoming yeah we want not what we tell them yes yes you're not wrong yeah yeah alright are we you want to take us to Harvey yeah so Harvey says here's this cool stuff found that I didn't I don't know have ever heard on your show I've become a big fan of the slide to type on my iPhone that's on the iPhone keyboard you can slide to type and wondered if it was possible on an iPad there's no setting for it on the iPad however when the keyboard pops up for you to use to type something in most apps if you locate the keyboard symbol at the bottom right of the keyboard press and hold it a pop-up appears and lets you choose floating that brings up a movable keyboard just drag that to the middle bottom of your screen and then you can slide to type on that so huh that's the little that's the little like I want to use my iPad one-handed kind of trick to yeah you know where you can kind of more use it like an iPhone and you can get it down in the corner a smaller version of the keyboard but yeah then you can use the slide to type so I think Apple feels like slide to type is really something that you just want to do on a smaller keyboard and if you have a full keyboard you should tap things out I guess but yeah get that but I can't tell you how many times I've tried to slide my iPad and go oh yeah I can't do that here do you slide to type on your phone Pete I do interesting it's I'm so much faster than the slide to type and I've got to say I'm impressed with how intuitive it is most of the time but for those who want to do not of course you shouldn't be reading your phone will drive in anyway but you will break a rib laughing that there's the damn you autocorrect is gone and that was in a big legal fight and all that but if you Google damn you autocorrect and find some of those they are howl out loud funny some of the mistakes oh yeah back and forth I think I think there's a Facebook group that I'm part of that just like where people post those and occasionally I'll see one like you know come across while I'm doom-scrolling or whatever yeah I mean months later I still laugh about some of them that's good where I was surprised this slide to type doesn't work is on the vision pro I think it'd be really you would think of all places the airpacking is much more difficult to be easier to just like wave your finger around and huh easier for you to do harder for the program yeah maybe and that might be why it doesn't work it might be hard to track the finger that but I mean the tracking is on it's pretty good so I don't know yeah interesting yeah yeah yeah okay yeah that's yeah yeah does it need the tapping motion to happen in order for it to know that you want to type and you're not just randomly moving your hand around well you know like activate it when the keyboard was up oh that's fair right right right yeah I don't know I I'm not it turns out I'm not the lead engineer on that project out it was just it was just a weird thing because I was like everybody was talking about how a little bit awkward it was to air type you have to you can really only do the on-pack you can't do like home row typing on it very well and I was like why doesn't they have the slide to type thing that you know it's like the workaround for that yeah yeah yeah interesting all right Pete you you want to take us to listener Peters thing and I will preface this by saying you did not know of either of our new sponsors before you prepped this one so this is this is not a like right this is not a thing this is a subway to the ads but yeah it's it's really not yeah yeah yeah so yeah it's a listener Peter from Auburn main writes in and says great discussion on backups on the latest episode I tend to be with Adam on the more obsessive side of backing up I love back plays and a feature that has saved me is being able to get large amounts of restore data on an encrypted USB drive they charge $189 for this but wait there's more but if the drive is returned within 30 days they give a full refund so it's effectively free I got caught when I accidentally pointed a carbon copy cloner at the wrong external drive ouch and hosed several hundred gigabytes of data I had everything back within two days and was refunded within a week a good it was a good test of the ability to restore that's my story and I'm stuck with it actually he says I'm sticking to it so so that's cool back plays I didn't realize that was a send semi-free service yeah yeah I mean it makes sense that they would want to be able to recoup their cost if you choose not to send it back to them but yeah makes sense I like it it's good I came back from Mexico and the only Apple watch that I brought with me with my was my Ultra 2 I still have my series 5 that I use occasionally actually I use for sleep most nights but I use the Ultra 2 for everything while I was there and had to track my sleep I would just put it on charge for like you know 30 minutes a day and that was generally enough and one thing that going into the trip I thought would be great and then it turned out it was a little bit much is the the depth app right on the Apple watch Ultra and Ultra 2 have the depth app which shows all kinds of things it basically is is a dive computer for your Apple watch and it shows the depth that your watch is and also shows the water temperature so that was kind of cool you know floating in the pool and being like oh what's the you know what's the temp however the way it is set by default which is cool is once the Apple watch as soon as the Apple watch detects that it is submerged it jumps into depth app mode puts the screen at full brightness because that's what you would want if you were using it that way and shows you this data and updates it in real time and that kind of thing folks burns your battery yeah so I thought well this is like cool and it was fine for the first day and it was fun to see oh the pools you know 88 degrees or something 86 degrees whatever it was it's nice fine and but then I was like okay I gotta turn this off so I found a cool setting that I will call the casual swimming or the floating or as we did in Mexico the flinking setting because we were floating and drinking is really what was happening because there was a swim up bar so the flinking setting on the Apple watch Ultra is go into settings on your watch general auto launch and that'll be in the depth section and it'll be threshold when submerged and you can change it to at three feet and this way it won't kick in the moment the watch is submerged it will only kick in when you when you go below three feet so if you're just sort of flinking there and your watch is going in and out of the water as you are raising your cup I highly recommend cup floaties and a straw if you really want to flink like a professional but yeah then then you know my watch just stayed in like chilled out mode and the battery lasted a whole lot longer so so Dave when you did put that up into the agenda of course I went into that in my watch to do that right and I and I actually found another setting in there and I was shocked to see background app refresh it go into settings and and right below that you'll see background app refresh tons of apps yes refreshing in the background whilst you and I went in I turned off almost everything some weather data you know location data that kind of stuff I kept but you know I write Korean Airlines once every three or four years but you know so I turned that off I mean obviously if you don't call it up it shouldn't be refreshing in the background but I found several other apps that that would be called up and I don't want those refreshing in the background and and working on my battery at all ever so they're worth turning off I think maybe my humble opinion maybe I mean I you're you're not wrong obviously an app that's refreshing in the background will take up some amount of energy it's like this is just a fact however Apple is really smart about the way it allows apps third-party especially and probably first-party although the first-party apps likely get to break the rules but third-party apps for sure wind up getting coalesced background updates so it it will it will wait until it knows that several apps need to do a thing or one app needs to do a thing at a very specific time and then it will be like all right who else needs an update let's go we're gonna get online we're gonna do these updates we're gonna do the you know energy what expensive things and and then we're and then we're gonna be done and and we're gonna turn off the you know the we're gonna go back into lower power you know power conservation mode whatever not low power mode but but yeah I like I guess my question slash caution would be tested see what your watch is like for a day with everything on see what your watch is like for a day with you know all of these things off obviously you're not gonna use your watch exactly the same this there's no way that you're gonna get like unless unless you'd like really lab test this thing but otherwise you know you're gonna you're gonna get a general sense of did it make enough of a difference for me to bother to go and manage these things and potentially leave myself in a scenario where I you know I go to launch the Korean Airlines app and now it needs to do some updates and I don't get the data I want right away I don't know yeah Adam what do you have any yeah I mean I think it's an opt-in opt-out thing and in my mind but I'm with you like everything kind of opts in so yeah pizza advice is good like at least go look and see what's like there opted in and this goes for notifications this goes for and you can use the background refresh thing on your iPads and your iPhones and stuff like that but it's that balance right it's the balance of if I turn this off knowing that next time I go to launch that app it's not just gonna like fly up and have information for me ready to go or with a watch it's even more right if you have a complication of tied to it or something exactly you want that data immediately there you don't want it to have to do a network call and depending upon where you are and all those other things so you got to be you know aware of what you're what you're setting I think this one's down to yeah that makes sense all right folks well you know how we're always diving deep into the tech 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does or as Apple calls it as a force restart I was experiencing an issue where within the app library in my social media folder app icons were coming up blank to remedy this I was able to do the force restart the UDP method and the icons came back to life just another handy tip for that particular set of button presses yeah thanks for that JT that that's interesting to me because that tells me that it's doing more than just shutting down and restarting your phone like it almost like all kinds of stuff yeah a cash reset a cash cleaning you know kind of a safe but it's not restarting into in safe mode or anything right but but it is doing some of the stuff that like we know our Macs do when we restart in safe mode doing that you know what whatever some maintenance whatever that maintenance is we don't know but yeah yeah that's interesting hey one other thing though and that's holding it down holding the power button down until you see the Apple logo when it does that correct the thing we talked about this a long time ago I'll bring up if you do up down and tap the power button and don't restart that does disable your biometrics so either your fingerprint or your face ID you're gonna have to put your password in in order to remember that's the mode that that's that's the way to you know make it so your biometrics won't open the unlock the phone whilst in your pocket don't write yeah don't get caught yeah it's don't get caught mode which is which is good you know I probably should have done that as I was like going through security in Mexico or something you know yeah yeah yeah you don't you don't have fourth amendment rates out of the country no no you don't no you don't it's true yeah yeah even though you even though you think you do yeah yep yep you do have fourth amendment rights they just don't exist there you have them in the in the United States yeah I just don't I just bring a little jar of US soil for for me to pour down and stand on that'll get you arrested by the agriculture police you know yeah yeah a little jar of US soil right I wonder if anyone's ever tried that like I like you know like I I would love it if I was say in an airport or something if you know for an airport and somebody was having their not their perceived rights violated like yeah and they they poured their little soil I am now a you know on US soil I'm on US soil this is this is sovereign land yeah carry your own sovereign land yeah I'm sure they'll bring you a broom and a dustbin and see if the work yeah yeah get to work that's it yeah yeah and when you're done come with us to this little private room yeah and then we'll escort you don't come with us we'll bring you there that's right yeah yeah yeah also from episode 1026 Todd had a comment about our recipes discussion yeah and he says I gave up on all the recipe apps they seem to change over time and stop doing things the way I like them when that happens transitioning from one app to another is always a pain of course because of this he says I have standardized on the notes app I have a folder in notes called recipes I often add a tag such as dessert appetizer thanksgiving etc all recipes come down to ingredients directions and notes about the recipe recipe I copy and paste the recipe from one of those God awful sites full of ads into BB edit do a little massaging and paste that into a new note sometimes add a link to the original source if I want the recipe folder is shared with my wife and two sons when we are somewhere and someone wants a recipe notes makes it very easy to send or just pull it up best of all I control the recipes no worries about an app or website shutting down a little up front work getting the recipe in a new note pays off in a big way I like this idea it is how we do things in our house basically you know we we've always just use the notes app for recipes and sharing and I love the idea of a shared recipes folder that we didn't do however I will offer one tip from 1026 that I think could make Todd and everyone's workflow better and that is resurfacing the quick tip we mentioned which is called just the recipe dot com because there you go Pete everything all right over there you are okay I'm back sorry I didn't hit the button in time that's correct the view button is kicking my back's backside this morning I'm sorry that's all right but that just the recipe dot com it automates the process of doing what he talked about with BB edit copying and pasting into BB edit to remove all the extraneous formatting so so try that out and maybe that plus notes is the magic cancer so yeah yeah I'm a I'm a markdown guy so I do everything in Ulysses but that's only because I don't I don't use I'd like to write everything and markdown I switch to that workflow a long long time ago and you know syncs through the cloud and I have it on all my devices and there's a Ulysses app for well it's in beta it's in test flight but the Ulysses app for Vision Pro I was excited about so interesting and how to become proficient and markdown a couple times that's is the Ulysses help you do that no I mean it does it does all the formatting for you and stuff like that and yeah there's shortcuts but I know how to write it so I just write it and then it converts it into like makes it look pretty yeah and you can export it and I also use marked you know obviously for converting things I know the basics but I've seen some amazing you know what are your tables and you know shading and titling yeah that's extended markdown I usually mostly basic markdown but yeah you can do basic tables and things like that but the reason I moved to that flow it really inspired a lot by David Sparks was just like with the other tools I can create a word document from that I can create a PDF a formatted PDF from that and my core files are now all in just text so playing always be accessible it does not matter what application changes happen what you know it's a text file at the end of the day and text is always supported so yeah so I understand Ulysses you explain that well it's it's a it's a it's an app that you can put text into and it understands markdown and it syncs and all those great things my question is about the marked you said and obviously I use the marked app why yeah mark is this great this great app from Brett terpstra okay it is a very simple app I think it's in I want to say it's still in set up I don't remember it is it lets you open any markdown file and basically convert it so it has templates you can build and you could do all kinds of conversions so there's there's pre-built templates and so it just it you can also use it for live display so if you just have a markdown file and you want to see it formatted really pretty as a word document or a PDF or whatever format it does that at real time so when you make the change in the markdown file that you've pointed it at it will do the formatting for you interesting it'll save it and everything right oh yeah yeah no yeah you can convert markdown into everything so that that's what that's what I love about it is you have just a text file once you learn it you have just a text file and I use it at work all the time to because everybody wants word documents so I write everything in markdown all my notes at markdown and send everybody a pretty word doc and you use marked to do to do that conversion for you it yeah yeah you can do it also in Ulysses but I like marked just because it has a lot of options and you can build templates if you want so you could customize you know how you want the fonts to look and how you want eight you know yeah is to look in the different different levels so it's basically like the styling for your markdown file you yeah yeah I I need to get I had started using markdown for like even just putting things in WordPress because it like it it will support that I guess I need to have your help Adam because our Mackie gab WordPress everything borks when I turn on markdown editing I don't and I don't in the in the WYSIWYG editor like it just won't show things anymore so yeah there's some look about there's some JavaScript like you know thing butting heads together I'm sure but yeah interesting all right yeah I got to get back into markdown so sure so you mentioned David Sparks I believe he even wrote a field guide on why you I think he might have a markdown markdown field guide yeah yeah which is a digital book that will teach you all kinds of things if I put it I put a link to all of these things in our lovingly handcrafted show notes which are available at Mackie cab calm we do not write them in markdown at least not currently yeah but I'm starting to think all the formatting that we use in Google Docs is WordPress also hates that so if I can get markdown working if we ideal right down working then we just do the show notes and markdown and we're good to go but and it notes kind of converts some of it too I think you know like does it okay but they're 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that choose to watch us what you see is what you get and you have our deepest in this case and today what you hear is what you get how about I take us to Jim and please yeah record yeah so Jim writes in he says hi guys I recently rearranged it let me back up and say this particularly hit close to home because this sounds exactly like something I would do to myself and then have to go to Dave and go please help hi guys I recently rearranged my desk in in the process disconnected my sonology nas 718 from both power and ethernet connection and when I reconnected I tried to log in from a bookmark I had previously created no luck because the IP address had changed from what it previously had been I did a quick search and came across a sonology knowledge base article entitled how do I find my sonology nas via web assistant or sonology assistant the simplest and quickest way for me was to type find dot sonology dot com into my browser and in a few seconds it had located my nas I noted the IP address updated my safari bookmark and logged in and on to the next task thanks to all the MGG crew for all you do I started listening sometime before episode 10 and have listened ever since can't go back and listen to the first nine come on yeah well you may have cost me a few bucks here and there to buy some new toys you save me a lot more money in time than I can measure with your quick tips cool stuff founded answers to listener questions rat gox rock do you know what rat gox means Pete it's a term that Jim came up with I feel like we workshopped it together but this is definitely a gym thing it is reasonable and trusted geeks of choice that's us exactly yeah yeah that's it and so I obviously wanted to bring that along to everybody as well and the other thing you can do obviously is put tail scale that'll help you find it though that isn't a good local local thing but you can put tail scale on your sonology the other thing I did is I went into my router and took the MAC address of my sonology drive and hard assigned it an IP address so that it would no matter what I did as soon as it sees that MAC IP address it brings me back to that one dot two got it yes that makes sense yeah yeah of course the DHCP reservation essentially is what it is so I do that for all my drive yeah I do that for all of my devices on my router just because I like to know where things are do you do it for your phones Adam I do yeah really yeah and I have a document markdown document that through you tells me where each one is oh yeah each one's IP addresses yeah I have a spreadsheet this is oh my gosh how have we gone 1026 episodes without ever having this conversation I have I have the same thing in a spreadsheet which I like because I have the IP address that I assigned to it the DNS name of the device because I want to assign it you know like yep yep correct and I want that to be the same no matter what and then I have the MAC address in there and then I have a notes field and so it's all you know a spreadsheet lets me keep it in columns and and all of those things but yes absolutely I have the same exact thing yeah yeah absolutely need to update mine I haven't done it in a while but I find it really helpful to know like I'll assign Debbie you know that 10 through dot 19 and me dot 20 through dot 29 that sort of thing and I'll know that my my computer is you know and hers is 11 and mine is 21 my phone is 22 and hers is 12 and such so if I ever had to SSH in that I know where they are without even having to go look it up I yeah I do that part too I have all mine in ranges so like my media devices are all in one range my my networking equipments all in one range my iPhones are all in one range my Macs are all in one range yeah that's how I broke it up yep yep I guess I did the same thing yep yep and I you know re-asked the question that I asked a few weeks ago is anal retentive hyphenated well it's like but this is super helpful it is it's a great way to know where your stuff is yes and able to access it in the event your computer locks up and you want to SSH in from your iPhone you can do it yeah I don't I only I was I don't do it with my iPhone and and the umbrella statement for that is I don't do it for devices that I would never want to connect to as like a server or a network resource so and that's only it's not that I have anything there's nothing bad about doing it for your iPhones it's just that that's more work you know and so I don't need to know what IP address my iPhone is on like it that doesn't matter to me I'm not saying it's bad if it matters to you it's just for me I'm okay but I want all of my desktop Macs I even do it with my my laptops because I will sometimes want to connect to those so my Macs all have reserved IPs and my disk stations do you know those those kinds of things obviously my router that's that sort of goes without saying and some other things that get like printers for sure get their own IPs I'm trying to think if there's anything else that like I give them to me I guess I could bring up the spreadsheet then I could tell you while you do that I have a question am I the only noob who uses Synology Synology disk assistant because going back to the original question that's how I fly that's often how I find my son is that the little app you run on your Mac yeah yeah and then it just launches the IP like yeah yeah there's nothing wrong with that oh I didn't know the app existed oh yeah I don't run it because I mean I have it I'm a noob it's nothing wrong with that yeah it's like being a noob is like that we are all noobs about certain things like nobody none of us none of the three of us here and none of us listening can be an expert and knowledgeable about all the things even all the things Apple it's just not possible there might have been a day where it was but that day is gone all my switches by my smart network switches get IP addresses those however I hard code into the switch I do make a reservation for them but they are hard coded into the switch so that this if the switch comes up even if my router is down I can still connect to the switch at the IP address that I know it will be at so that's good that's good advice yeah yeah yeah so one other quick question though Dave along those lines as you know I was trying to do some troubleshooting here at our Florida place this week and what I couldn't determine was whether my modem was good or not do you remember that is it 1.100.100.1 what is generally that the standard modem interface where is it 192.168. yeah so for a doxus cable modem this is not the case with any other fiber whatever nothing why was I going to say ISDN does anybody have an ISDN connection anymore I've got a 300-baud modem yeah thanks it's great radio stations maybe I've gotten acoustic coupler it's 192.168.100.1 and I will even put a link to this in the in the show notes but yeah yeah yeah it's the doxus so my modem was definitely bad then because I could not I was trying that and I couldn't get it yeah you know they were trying to send a reset signal and all that which ultimately I just finally gave up and went over to T-Mobile and did the home internet gateway and so let's talk about that I mean this shows off the rails already which is great like we're all learning things it's like off the rails is a relative term but you texted me while I was in Mexico and you started sending me speed tests and and you're like this is on T-Mobile and like oh did you move from like Mint Mobile to T-Mobile for your international travels and you're like no no no no I still meant this is my home internet in at your house in Florida and I was like oh that's cool that's great and I'm you know in Mexico I probably I didn't have my phone with me while we were out flinking but I probably had just finished flinking so you know I had a couple of cocktails in me or whatever I found this this this year I really liked drinking mezcal and soda with lime yeah yeah adds a little flavor to it through there yeah and if you order tequila soda and lime at the at the you know the pool bar you'll get like bottom of the barrel tequila in uh you know from the well but mezcal they don't have that in the well so that's got to come off the shelf so um but you know I didn't it didn't dawn on me until like yesterday I'm like wait a minute Pete's gonna be doing the podcast from Florida and he's on that T-Mobile connection it's no longer wired is this gonna be a disaster I knock on wood counting on Pete but we're 40 minutes 45 minutes into the recording of the show we're an hour and 20 into our connection here and again I just knocked on wood but it's fine yeah not what it has been rock solid all week long it just crushing it I'm streaming the 4k video Mac was playing on his iPad in his room the the computers were going full steam it it you know do me a favor open up a open up a terminal window okay and just type ping space www.apple.com just because I'm I'm curious how can sit how low and also how consistent your pings are now you're on a wi-fi connection yes so there's there's also that which is you know oh I forgot to tell her I forgot to tell it to stop control c will tell it to stop yeah the highest that I've seen is um hang on did it go away from I'm just curious what the range that you're seeing is on that um I'm the lowest uh is down in the 36 milliseconds the highest I've seen is uh 47 milliseconds oh okay so there's a 51 sorry okay but it's not jumping up into the hundreds no not even close that's really good oh man yeah it's rocking it huh and uh if you put it on it's 65 a month but if you put it on autopay like of a debit card or out of your checking account it's 60 bucks a month yeah of course and it's unlimited data up and I think it advertises up to 500 megabits up and down but or uh down and I think I forget what the number up is but it's look I uploaded uh I recorded so there I was and I uploaded a uh a gigabyte show um I forget how many I think about a gigabyte show in in under three minutes yeah that's amazing I like that that that really I mean we knew that when 5G came out that what you just described was going to be a reality like a workable reality eventually and and you know we also knew that this was about the timing of it so like and it's not available in every area when you go to their site you have to put in your zip code in your address and it'll go uh not yet yeah so um and I suppose you could put it in your rv and travel around with it but I think they would shut you down if because you're gonna start crushing other people's areas uh with that if it's not up to if their network isn't up to snuff there yeah right right yeah yeah yeah yeah I I do know of people who use it in rvs and I mean it you know you you don't tell them that's what you're doing don't get caught but um yeah huh that's pretty good so what was that Pete I was I was gonna I was gonna say yeah I'm sorry I said your gang 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All right chris writes uh after at least 10 years of following uh of listening to maccast i followed you over to mgg and i'm enjoying the tips and tricks amazing i have a question he says about using the apple 27 inch thunderbolt display on a windows laptop i absolutely love these displays and despite their age i think there's some of the best displays out there none of the pc monitors seem as crisp and clear as these which is why i bought three of them good for you one on my 2012 mac mini and another used to run on my 2019 16 inch macbook pro unfortunately i changed jobs and now i have to use a windows laptop for work it's a del latitude 7440 which according to del has two thunderbolt four ports with display port alt mode usb c usb 4 power delivery i tried with the apple thunderbolt 3 usb c to thunderbolt 2 adapter which i used on the 16 inch macbook pro but i'm not getting any picture and there isn't a power button or indicator on the thunderbolt display i would think that the tb4 port is backward compatible with both tb2 and tb3 do you have any tips for making this work adam he followed you here you want to try this one yep well first of all chris thanks for coming along for the ride we really like having you here and i like being here so that's great that we can all come together um but thunderbolt four definitely should be backward compatible with thunderbolt three and thunderbolt two that you're absolutely right there so this baffled me a little bit as well i did some googling and i found a thread over on del's website and it's possibly related to an update they did to their del firmware back in 2021 that is causing the displays to no longer authorize with the system it seems like it's still unresolved so who knows if they're ever going to address it um i would imagine i agree with you on those displays amazing displays my guess is like del probably doesn't care too much that it broke all a really old thunderbolt display but that's just my opinion yeah huh that's too bad um i mean but did it break i guess my question is did it break all thunderbolt displays or just apples no it sounds like it broke a bunch of thunderbolts okay okay so this wasn't a certain era or not but well we know that apple sometimes does things you know a little bit different than the standard i would have been surprised to learn that they did thunderbolt different from the standard because they've been really good about that in fact apple has been sort of the shining star of following the thunderbolt um spec we wouldn't need thunderbolt for if everybody followed the spec like apple did with thunderbolt 3 but you know be that as of may so yeah we'll link to the we'll link to the article you can read through the full thing i didn't fully read through it but it was very obvious that it broke apples display so i don't know i would assume it broke multiple thunderbolt displays and maybe with specific controllers or you know who knows yeah yeah yeah huh interesting that's too bad that's too bad i'm i'm wondering like is there would there be a reason that putting a thunderbolt dock in the middle right between you know what i'm saying like a dock that has passed through controller or something like that yeah who knows yeah yeah i don't know i mean like i realized the display has its own thunderbolt dock in it because it's not actually a thunderbolt display it's a display port display that has you know that's on the other side of a thunderbolt dock right so uh yeah huh huh i don't know it's it's just something to ponder feedback at matgeekub.com if you know the answer or you have any tips or anything like that or you can join the discord at matgeekub.com slash discord love to have you in both places uh time to go to mace let's you want to you want to take that one adam yeah actually uh i it's correct i know adam's gonna read it for you i'll answer it for you i knew that got it right here all right mace says uh that my wife got suspicious four suspicious emails in rapid succession this morning my question is about her i cloud at icloud.com email address i wanted to change the password to it but i couldn't find a reference to that password in the last pass do you get access to your at icloud.com email via your apple id password is the apple id password that is that the apple id password that i would want to change and absolutely that's it so uh what you need to do is go to your apple id account page and that's apple id dot apple.com and sign in with your current apple id and password and under the sign in and security section click on password and you'll be asked to enter your current password then a new password and confirm it um and after changing the password you'll need to sign back in with your new password on all your devices that use your apple id and if you've turned on stolen device protection uh you you have now more problems more delays at least yes more delays and and hoops through which you must now jump uh so if uh it remember it affects all your apple services and uh that use your apple id not just your i cloud email so you need to update your password on the other devices as i said and then and then um uh you're gonna have to uh go in here i the note says because stolen device protection is turned on some of your account information can't be changed on the web you'll have to go uh change your password and use it on on other devices maybe at your phone and that sort of thing you can't just change you're gonna have to change it on those devices as well as my understanding that i think the simple solution is turn off stolen device protection wait it out accomplish the change wait wait out the wait and then turn it back on yeah that would be the simplest approach i do want to add something to this everything you said is correct right like if you want to change your i cloud password that's your i cloud email password is your i cloud password all of that stuff is true there's an asterisk there if you're using like an imap client to connect to it you'd have to create uh um um you know less secure password for that but that's a whole different thing um however receiving spam or phishing emails into your email address is not necessarily just the receipt of them is not necessarily cause for alarm enough that i would go change my password like if i clicked on a link and it asked me to log into my i cloud account and i realized oh my gosh i just typed my password in to not apple's website then yes 100 but just because you received a piece of email spam phishing legitimate email from the folks at feedback at macicub.com just receiving a piece of email does not mean that there has been any security risk even if you get that email from your own address if it appears to be from your own address it it could be that someone got access but that's the hard hard hard way of doing it the easy way is to just spoof your email address and send an email as though it were from you and if someone sets up their own mail server then that's what they get to do so um yeah spoofing is surprisingly easy to do yeah oh yeah yeah it it's getting harder with all of like the the spf and demark stuff that you can put on domains which is good it and uh and i cloud domains are apple does do a decent job of protecting its i cloud domains with those pieces of tech so like it would be less likely to get phishing emails from an i cloud domain or if you did they'd probably be marked as spam because they're not matching the spf for the the demark stuff or whatever it is so yeah yeah i got it a surprisingly effective phishing email this week myself and it was ostensibly from digs sporting goods take a survey and we'll give you a uh this cooler you know okay great uh show the quick survey and i'm like all right all you have to do is pay a seven dollar shipping fee okay and then started looking at it and then i went oh yeah i should have probably checked out the url long before i got to this point yeah but what if they're all going on basic human greed yep always is it always is so um yeah but uh so frustrating like oh almost got me be diligent out there yeah and and you know you mentioned the first thing they did was ask you to fill out a survey be careful when filling out surveys that you are filling them out for the source that you believe has asked for that data because with enough information from you from multiple sources anything you might divulge seemingly innocuously in a survey could potentially be used to you know as a social engineering attack to get someone to change your password on your behalf or or whatever so just think about that um yeah and quite the profile for them yeah you're building right you're letting or you yeah yeah exactly yep any thoughts on that adam or you want to take us to michael no we're good let's go to michael right because he's he's got a very weird weird audio bug okay uh and it was something that uh it was over on he linked us over to uh article at mac rimmers but apparently there's this longstanding audio bug with the balance on the audio where it can just randomly fade you know so the left right balance in your sound settings on your mac and it could just randomly fade and i guess this bug he says has been around for about 12 years now and apple just already addressed it yeah so he he was asking us about that and i you know i basically said well that's odd to me and interesting at the same time um i've actually personally never experienced this bug in 10 years at least that i'm aware of um and so the bug is apple says in some cases audio balance may unexpectedly drift toward the left or right channel this can happen if you rapidly press the volume up or down button keys while the computer's microprocessor is under heavy load so it's like a very specific set of circumstances so like your your mac has to be cranking and then you have to be physically using the volume up and down key on your keyboard and pressing that very very rapidly so yes it's odd that apple has a bug that's been out there for 12 years but as a developer and knowing probably the massive list of bugs that apple has my assumption is this happens so rarely into so few people that it just keeps getting bumped down the the list you know they have a list and they prioritize that list and they're probably going like yeah this is really annoying and we'd like to fix this but you know we've got bigger bigger fish to fry to fry here that's really weird i'm gonna it's probably it probably has nothing to do with core audio but i'm just gonna blame it on apple not still not quite getting core audio quite right because i can um there is an app mentioned in that mac rumors article from tuna belly called balance lock and so if you experience this or if you just want to you know play it safe go get balance lock it's available for free in the mac app store and uh the folks at tuna belly are trusted they are rat gox as well reasonable and trusted geeks of choice and so uh i i haven't used this app but i have no issue with them but yeah that's interesting i actually see this i actually see this now as an easter egg like i want to see if i can make this happen yeah exactly but good luck on it like i was thinking i bet this bug has moved even farther down apple's list with apple silicon because it's less likely for us to good luck loading up that chip right pixel mater every time i launch pixel mater i have it opening like six documents that each have hundreds of layers and images they're all the episode images uh with a little bit of foreshadowing to the next question unintentionally but uh all the episode images so all you know it has all of the historical data in there i archive them off like once every few years but they're big and so i even on my mac studio here when i launch pixel mater my cpu's for you know five seconds or something while it which is great i would if an app needs to use the cpu by all means okay that's what it's there for so that might be a way but of course i don't use an audio device on this that the mac has control over the balance on so i would never have experienced it here either um yet even even if like i don't even think i my volume i don't have my volume knobs working if another tip you use external uh you know non inbuilt audio devices like you know i have external interface or whatever and it does not support the max volume controls on the keyboard but you would like it too you can do that with rogue amoeba's sound source which is an awesome little app that does it does that and many other things you in fact you can have it where alerts you can do this on the mac too so that's a bad example but you could have it where one app has its sound go out one device one app another app has its sound go out a different device you can have the balance of apps be different with sound source it's a it's a great little utility but the kind of the main thing that brings most people in is i want to be able to use my max volume buttons on the keyboard with a not inbuilt thing and and sound source will do that so those forks over at rogue amoeba they they kind of understand sound yeah i wish i wish apple would listen to them more than they already do i'm sure they do but about the core audio stuff i i had an issue and it like it happened during an episode i'm sure it will happen again unless apple has just fixed it without acknowledging it again but where everything resets core audio wise and that throws logic for a tizzy which i use as my mixer so that's why i don't know it's three or four weeks ago where i had to like reset logic to come back online and audibly and i mentioned it to rogue amoeba because i thought it had something to do with loopback or or or something else and they're like oh yeah no we see this too like oh that's cool like keep keep reporting it to apple i'm like yep same okay hey i'm wondering if either of you have experiences or any of our audience has i um this is on the mac but it's on the iphone i listen to a podcaster too i don't know if you guys do or not but yeah i have noticed recently for no apparent reason i'm not touching the volume buttons or anything like that the volume will go up on me or down on me and it's not ambient sound with my air pods in so what app do you use to listen to podcasts uh downcast usually occasionally apple podcast because yeah it's downcast um i can't figure out why it's doing it i i can't reliably replicate it but it happens frequently and and yeah so that's a geek challenge there you go i i don't think i've experienced that i mean if i have i probably without even thinking about it would just grab my phone and push the volume down you know what i mean yeah i'm wondering if i have some setting somewhere yeah down in there that but the ambient noise has not gone up therefore causing my volume to be increased but yeah who knows um maybe i just thought i'd ask if you yeah had that so yeah and one other thing folks i want you to understand that it's a thing of beauty to watch while talking about rogue amoeba's sound source Dave was updating show notes types out sound source goes to the web page grabs the link and puts it in there all without missing a beat it's it's a thing of beauty to watch yeah producing producing the show whilst uh talking on the show i i will i did i did all those things except one of them i didn't go the order was different i typed the word sound source google docs has a cool thing and this is a quick tip i highlighted the word sound source and then i hit command k and it google docs that command k is the shortcut to add a link to text but if you're logged in in addition to having the option to just type or paste a link in it will search google for the text that you have highlighted and in most cases this being one of them it like sound source from rogue amoeba shows up on the list so i just get to select it so that's how it happened then i clicked it which opened in my web browser and that's what you saw and you put up on the screen for folks who are watching so there are shortcuts to my madness here google docs is cool but to be able to talk and type and do all that it's it's a thing of beauty to watch yeah sometimes though i realize either i have no idea what one of you said because i got into that like you know the multitasking myth right yep other times i have no idea what i just said because i've been doing that and both of those things are scary when you're releasing a show that goes out to tens of thousands of people right i can't tell you how many times i've gone back and listened to one of so there i was and go i did i totally missed that while i'm editing the show i missed that because i was doing some production thing and it's like oh that's awesome yep all right well since we're on the sausage making you want to take us to jason's question i can do so uh long time listener and love the show as always it would be awesome to see the prompts that you use to create the show album artwork the artwork capture the the artwork captures the show title and the show and the title so well perhaps simply just including in the show notes i consistently see the artwork and wonder what was the prompt they used to create that oh the latest egg and chicken problem the best reverse engineered prompt i could find was painting of a teacher and a chicken in a classroom creative vfx science poster funny cartoonish identical prime lens no yellow color egg shell color uh he sham hibachi this kind of smart epic dip tick uh in a lab reduce duplicate content very nerdy doesn't seem to get it right uh are you all using dolly three via chat gpt plus for creation and because i love to create more work for dave i promised all the listeners that they would put in every show note every prompt every you know it's a good idea it's totally fine it was interesting reading this because i often do when i'm inspired by something we've said in the show that i think oh this would make a good title let's see what the artworks is i will create in real time that the artwork while we're doing the show right because of that the prompts are much shorter than you might think but i but i i consider in this instance it's not that i have an image in mind that i am trying to get chat gpt to draw for me if that were the case i would give it you know a paragraph full like you know like jason said yeah and then it will ignore half of them anyway yeah yeah exactly um yeah it doesn't and it especially doesn't iterate on artwork well at all like if i tell it oh yeah what you just made is awesome make this one change what you get next is remarkably different it's almost unrelated so the one for last week for 1026 uh all i said was um i'd wanted i wanted two options at once and i did i yeah uh well you're showing this week's pete so never mind fine well that's fine you can leave that out because because this is probably what will be this week's image but last week i wanted just two options and i didn't want to have to go back and tell it make me another option so i said make me two wide aspect ratio images that illustrate the egg and chicken problem humorously different from the chicken and egg problem right i wanted it to be the reverse of that make it nerdy if you want and definitely make it funny right and that's that's what i said and uh and and that's it you know and and i got i got the first thing that i got was the image that we wound up using with the the two eggs being nerdy in their respective laboratories and was like well that's kind of what i asked for but you know what that's good enough and so i thought well i it saw it my next prompt was great now make just one image and it did and that one you folks didn't see but if you're watching the video i'm scrolling through it now and on chat jbt and this looks like the senate you know like the senate chambers of old uh with chickens and eggs as the people and it's it's weird you know and i thought about using that one and then i said make one image that looks more like the right half of the first one and it kind of did that for me and i almost did that and this was a chicken with an egg floating in the air in a laboratory with beakers and and that sort of thing and by that point i was like all right i have three choices i'm gonna pick one of these and i wound up picking the first one and and off we went so that was last week um this episode which at this moment in time has not yet been published for me but at this moment in time for most of you listening it has been published for you so you will know what image we have chosen but i thought oh this idea of rat gox like that's kind of funny like reasonable entrusted geek of choice so i said create a wide aspect ratio image of rat gox and make it funny and then in parentheses i put for reference that means reasonable entrusted geeks of choice and uh it made me probably the image that we use with a bunch of people in a room some of them nerdier than others it's a very cluttered room and it says rat gox at the top and she spelled it correctly it spelled rat gox correctly the text underneath it if i leave it in there is absolutely not even close to right but it's gibberish right but you know it's it's got the vibe and i said amazing make another please which i've learned i just keep you know keep telling it to iterate and then we get this one of like a scientist with his head in the clouds and it looks like rat ears too almost oh yeah yeah yeah yeah so let's see you know make it rat ear so i don't know what i don't know what will happen with that you know it takes i don't know it takes about 30 seconds for it to make an image so i don't know what's going to happen with with this but but yeah i'm using dolly and i i am not again i'm i'm using chat gpt or dolly as a collaborator in this not as grunt work right and and there's a difference because i'm willing to kind of go with whatever it might show me within reason and it that's unlike where if i tell it to i know what image we're using it just get the rats just came the nerdy rats just came up and these of course are the ones that you're going to see on uh on the episode show notes but if you want to see the rest you can uh you can watch the youtube video this segment and it'll have it in there but uh but yeah i'm willing to just kind of like you know let the process evolve and whatever happens happens gosh that's freaking brilliant correct the cheese and everything cheese floating symbol on the balloon oh yeah it's great my favorite still is go look at episode 1009 folks that was where you have our permission and we've mentioned the term goat rodeo and oh boy yep yep almost broke out laughing like this yeah mid episode yeah because pete can pete and adam can see my screen my shared screen all the time even if it's not on the screen it's in like a little preview window for for those of us you know recording the show and uh yeah so it's you know what what was that 1009 you said i'll just i'll link to it in the show notes so that's now linked in the you have our permission in the show notes yeah yep we're so you know there was uh we didn't get to any cool stuff found other than the things that we kind of casually mentioned that's all right we'll do cool stuff found that maybe we'll start with cool stuff found for 1028 yeah anything else that either one of you wants to mention if there is a cool stuff found like now now's the time we're at the hour 516 mark so we're technically kind of ready to wrap up but you know if there's something cool otherwise we'll save it for next week you let me know anything oh well i'll mention you know i i got from mirai m i r a i yep the uh the next generation of their speaker that uh the crispens the audio the voice audio for yeah people that are hard of hearing uh what little i've done playing with i'll do a full review obviously for the uh for the channel but i've have found that maria mirai m i r a i uh speaker is those things are just fantastic they for someone who's trying to lose his hearing when there is ambient noise i find it so difficult to hear the spoken word and these speakers just make them so crisp and clear the audio is fantastic so uh if you know if you have someone in your home who is uh starting to lose their hearing what might the first one i ever got uh i've got on my mother's tv in the nursing home and it makes it it makes it so she's able to hear that's great her hearing isn't horrible but it isn't great and she's able to hear so the yeah speakers are fantastic so there's a cool stuff found for you yeah all right yeah i'll will solve that hearing thing for me with movies is the vision pro or using my air pods pro that's that's how i resolve that but that's not very uh that's not very social like you can't you can't be right you don't be right so this is a great option for that yeah protect your hearing folks uh do do everything you can to to protect your hearing when you are and i i use on my apple watch and this is not just available on the ultra it's available on um certainly the series five and later maybe even before that uh right on the as a complication i have the db meter and that db meter on the apple watch is astonishingly accurate i've compared it against pro level db meters and it's usually a variance don't get me wrong but it's close enough that uh it you know you'll know are you in the danger zone or not and you know if you're in anything above like 88 db for an extended period of time it it will take a toll on your hearing and absolutely you know ear plugs are inexpensive they are uh you know and they're easy to keep with you i mean you can get you can spend i don't know whatever 150 bucks on custom fit ear plugs that are super comfortable and you know make the sound just sound like you turn down the volume and they're amazing but for you know between 15 and 40 you can get universal fit ear plugs that are fantastic a lot of people like the eargasm uh ear plugs that uh that are available on like amazon and and the sort uh what do they cost now on amazon they're 42 people really really like these um you know there's there's there's all all kinds of great ear plugs out there but yeah just protect you i'll put i'll put more in the show notes i will flesh this out with with more ear plugs you know i always use the the little foamy and yeah double hearing protection when i fly in harriers and the problem is everybody all my buds who flew harriers are in the same boat we all have this tinnitus or tinnitus whatever your pronunciation is that uh it it's horrible uh even wearing double hearing protection that's that high bypass turbo fan engine that has a really high pitched level to it and and that seems to be where we're all stuck yeah ring tone yeah for me for me my mistake was going to i didn't even think about it at the time till that it was too late um we did we went to a civil war reenactment and they shot those cannons and i didn't even realize it but about two weeks later i woke up in the middle night tonight full tinnitus and i've had it ever since and i'm convinced that that's where the damage happened at least put you over the edge yeah yeah yeah the um there's another ear plug that i actually tested out and used while we were in mexico at those concerts it's about in the price range ish of the custom fits it's not custom fit it's universal fit it's it's called the menu window and it's from a company called soundbrenner it's 170 bucks on amazon what's cool about these very comfortable very small they basically disappear into yours but you can remove them it's not like it's a problem uh they have a an adjustment slider on them where you get to control how much it's blocking and it goes from seven db at the lowest to 25 db at the highest and that's pretty cool um to be able to kind of dial that in you know i 25 is a lot and at an outdoor concert and the band fish really they respect their audience i mean they they probably were at about 92 db most nights which is something you want to protect yourself from but it's not 105 db which i've seen some bands do right uh and uh which is crazy because every three db doubles the amount of sound so think about that right but uh you know even 90 yes it's it's logarithmic yeah yeah okay so that's right earlier when i said you know the difference of one or two db is is substantial it is most humans can't hear a one db difference but most of us can hear a two db difference okay um yeah but uh you know being able to adjust it and dial it in like oh i only need like half down okay and looking at my watch and being like all right they're at 92 so if i'm blocking about 15 that's great and 15 is a good amount to block for most concert goers um i i yeah what about the frequency does do all the frequencies get through because i find that you know obviously it's with the sponges and stuff you lose a lot of the lower end and you lose the high end you get you get the low end keep the lower end yeah yeah yeah these the minuendos are acoustically balanced so like the eargasms are and so you you really get the you get a decent sound okay um there there was another brand called loop earplugs and i think they're still making them they are these my family went nuts over these loop earplugs uh for a long time lisa used them up until she finally got custom fits uh but uh they again they they kind of have a little bit of a um i don't know like fashion bit to them i don't know but yeah earring they look like a little they're a little loop inside your ear yeah it's um so you know but they they work really well they they sound good um so and that's drowab on x points out he uses his airpods pro and dav i know you've seen me at the hockey games wearing my airpods pro for two reasons one is is the noise reduction which is great yes and then the other is i can actually listen to the radio announcers call about a minute and a half later you know what was that penalty for yeah exactly yeah yeah yeah it and you're right the anything that seals your ear off you know it like regular airpods are not going to protect you from outside sound airpods pro which seal into your ear as long as you have a good seal will protect you from outside sound and i'm being very careful to articulate this that way it's the same with like what i'm wearing to do the show which are all clear uh in-ear monitors they will protect me from outside sounds there is nothing other than you know my own will that will protect me from not turning the volume of the speaker up too loud and hurting my hearing which you can also do with airpods you can protect yourself from all the outside sounds you want and still damage your hearing by cranking it up um and i've heard you know people in the music industry say oh yeah in-ear monitors are not a form of hearing protection it's like that is so technically true and yet so misleading because when used correctly they absolutely can help save your hearing but if you turn them up to the same level that you're used to hearing without them in uh maybe that's a bad idea it's actually worse probably it's worse yeah and like the folks at sense of phonics michael santucci uh sense of phonics makes in-ear monitors michael santucci is an audiologist and sort of very well known and respected in the industry but they have a device that will measure what you are delivering to yourself via your in-ear monitors so that you know yeah yeah it's not cheap it's like 500 bucks but um you know yeah so i don't remember what the name of that device is um i will i will find it plus the regular AirPods don't have active noise canceling which is also helpful well you can't have active noise canceling unless you are sealing your ears off from the outside correct yes yeah so um yeah all right now it's so evidently yes we had 10 more minutes of stuff to 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