 greetings and salutations. This is retsanur from the Alternative Society, but I'm also part of the Alternative Inner Circle. Now the Alternative Inner Circle is basically a spiritual group that we feel that there are alternative entities that we are living with, that we can't personally see, but sometimes they can be seen with infrared cameras and stuff like that because I mentioned on the first program we have surveillance cameras at a house and we can see unusual activities usually after midnight on the surveillance cameras and there's no explanation for it. I'm guessing that these are spiritual entities that are existing around my house and I happen to live in Hadley, Hadley, Massachusetts, and Hadley, Massachusetts has at the Historical Society a story about the Angel of Hadley and the Angel of Hadley is something that is known about was this was I guess during the early years of the settlement of Hadley and settlers were out and about and I guess this so-called Angel of Hadley showed up and I warned them that Indians were coming over to attack them and they got prepared for an attack but this so-called Angel of Hadley just disappeared and nobody really has an explanation of who or what this Angel of Hadley was they just said that some person came over and warned them about some kind of Indian attack and then disappeared. So Hadley does have a reputation for having some kind of so-called paranormal activity from the early days of the settlers of Hadley, Massachusetts and I live in Hadley, Massachusetts I've experienced unusual things over the years which I didn't really think too much about years ago but as time went on I started thinking that this seems to be some kind of sign that something is going on and I don't have any explanation for it. I mentioned last time that unusual activities which I classify as paranormal activities seemed to happen to me on a weekly basis always some some kind of unusual thing. The last thing happened to me just last weekend I was doing lawn mowing and I was attacked by bees but the bees only went on my shoes and socks they didn't go anywhere else and I had shorts on they they didn't go on my legs or anything they were just a bunch of bees on my shoes and socks and I had water I was trying to get them off my shoes and socks there I had to take my shoes and socks off because there were bees there but I did not have bees on the rest of my body which somebody thought was kind of unusual because I mentioned it to somebody at my job and he said that he knew somebody that was attacked by bees and other bees went all over him including on his back and everything and he was rolling around on the ground trying to get rid of the bees I didn't experience that kind of situation the bees just went on my shoes and socks so I don't have any explanation why that happened and there were a lot of bees on my shoes and socks there must have been maybe three dozen or something I don't know but they were just on my shoes and socks so I had these bees attacking me and then my ankles were itchy after that and I don't know if they actually stung me I don't know if an itch means I got stung or if it was just itchiness so I was attacked by bees so that was just an example of some unusual event there's a number of things that have happened to me I don't have any explanation for so I decided that I'm gonna come over here and maybe interview a ghost over here at the Amherst media build the building here is fair fairly old I think it belongs to the electric company there's the electrical power units in the back of the building there and I think this was an office or something or other years ago so I set this up with a microphone and I'm going to be having an interview with a ghost because I think there's some ghosts here in this building it's an old building and how I'm going to communicate with them is with my crystal so I'm going to show you what I do and I'm gonna have the ghost here give me some answers I'm gonna put the crystal over the microphone I'm gonna ask the crystal show me a yes okay and it's going clockwise now I show me a no and it's going counterclockwise so I'm gonna be asking the so-called ghosts that might be lurking around in this building which nobody seems to be able to know about I happen to seem to be kind of partial to the paranormal so I'm gonna have this interview with the ghost here and I'm going to say is there a ghost present here okay the crystal says yes okay have you been in this building for a number of years says yes okay I notice that there's really nothing on the second floor except they seem to have just some junk and stuff it's like a storage area it's not really being used might there be other ghosts up on the second floor here in this old building okay well the crystal says yes so the other ghosts here in this building according to the crystal here now are you actually staying downstairs here most of the time well the ghost says no it doesn't stay downstairs most of the time so do you like to come downstairs here when there are people over here okay it says yes it does like to come over here when there are people over here would you say that you're here because you used to work in this building no you did not work in this bill is this a location that used to be some other place that you used to live in is this location something that you came over to this location from some other location okay so according to the ghost it came from some other location so you never actually worked or lived in this building is that correct okay you never actually lived and worked in this building I'm curious did you come from a farm from a nearby farm that was here in the Amherst area did you come from another town in Massachusetts did come from another town my my arms getting a little tired here so according to this ghost it came over to this building from some other town in Massachusetts and settled settled in this building here maybe because it was an older building so I'm gonna be asking some more questions I just needed to rest my arm here because I had to hold it up and kind of up in the air my arm was getting a little tired there I'll get back to my interview here so are you classified as a male okay a male ghost did you live in some community within 10 miles of this building so you were not in a place that was within 10 miles of the building here okay did you live in some place that was maybe 20 miles away from this location oh not even 20 miles I'm gonna try to ask was it maybe 50 miles away that you came from not even 50 miles was it another state maybe that you might have came from another state into Massachusetts and then came over here not from another state could it be like maybe a hundred miles away that you came from a hundred miles away not even a hundred miles okay let's ask did you by any chance come from somewhere along the coast of Massachusetts say like around Boston or Cape Cod okay according to the crystal this so-called ghost came from an area maybe from Boston the Cape Cod along the coast somewhere so did you by any chance die in this shipwreck did you buy any chance get attacked by Indians where you were veteran of some ancient war say like a Revolutionary War or the Civil War okay so this seems to be some kind of veteran that came from the other end of the state that came over here this is what the information is and I'm just doing this I don't have any idea what's going on here so I'll ask some more questions so I'm guessing now that you are some kind of veteran from the Revolutionary War maybe no not the Revolutionary War are you a veteran from the Civil War okay it says from the Civil War so I know that there were groups of people from Massachusetts because I used to do Civil War reenacting myself I did that for 15 years I participated with this group in Florence Massachusetts it was the 10th mass volunteer regiment they were looking for a drummer and I did drumming with them for 15 years I went to a number of parades and I did reenactments and I did that actually it's a volunteer thing I did that for 15 years but when my mother died I I had to stop doing that because I needed to work that was at the time there I was working part time and I couldn't really do the Civil War reenacting after my mother died I actually started working about between 50 and 60 hours a week after my mother died so I wasn't able to do Civil War reenacting but I did do that so let me ask the ghost here are you here because I did Civil War reenacting no are you here because there are other Civil War people that have come and gone that lived in Amherst so the ghost claims that there were some Civil War people that lived in Amherst I did reenacting but I'm guessing this this ghost was in the actual Civil War so you were actually in the Civil War between 1860 and 1865 is that what you're saying okay now we have a better idea we have a veteran from the Civil War that came from some area along the coast maybe Boston Cape Cod or something were you involved by any chance for the 10th Mass Volunteer Regiment that was an actual regiment during the Civil War they were in Florence Massachusetts did you know of anybody in the 10th Mass Volunteer Regiment in Florence Massachusetts no you don't know anybody in the 10th Mass okay when we did reenactments we traveled all over the place including Gettysburg did you get involved with the Gettysburg battle so according to the ghost here he was involved with the Gettysburg battle which was a pretty intense you're saying that you you were not killed in in one of these battles where you were you were not killed is that correct okay the crystal says the ghost claims it was not killed during the Civil War did you get wounded during battle no I did not get wounded during battle did you live a long and fruitful life even after the Civil War did something happen to you after the Civil War was over that did you did you by any chance get some kind of sickness and died from a sickness no I didn't die from a sickness did you die from old age did not die from old age did somebody do something to you and then you ended up dying okay somebody did something to this ghost and it died were you by any chance poisoned did you die from some kind of accident say like some kind of accident with a horse or something like that did you have some kind of accident okay so this person died from some kind of accident I don't know if I want to get into too many details here is this an accident that happened to you when you were on your own is this some accident that happened to you when you were with some other people yes is this some kind of accident that was caused by you is this an accident that was caused by somebody else yes so did you by any chance get in an accident when you were traveling from your area where you came from and you happened to come over to this area and you died in this area in an accident okay so this ghost supposedly came over here to this area and died in an accident when it was over here it didn't work in this building it didn't have anything to do with the building I guess it was just traveling here and got in some kind of accident this is really kind of weird so did you die in an accident with some kind of horse horse drawn vehicle did you by any chance go visiting some of the sites around here and you you might have climbed the mountain and fell to your death is that what happened okay I'm kind of trying to figure out how you died when you came over to this area here did somebody by any chance a shoot you with a gun did somebody use a knife on you minute what was that okay so somebody attacked this person that was visiting the area here with a knife so is this like a robbery that somebody attacked you when try to steal stuff from you and then they killed you with a knife okay so this is some kind of robbery that this person was killed in a robbery it was a civil war participant but not died during the civil war but was attacked after the war was over so did you die in this area where this building is so this ghost died in this building where where I'm located here did you come from the Boston area did you come somewhere between Boston and Cape Cod did you come from Cape Cod so this this ghost I came from Cape Cod traveling in this area was attacked by somebody as a robbery and was killed in this area here by somebody with a knife is this done some time between 1870 and 1880 is this between 1880 and 1890 what was that so this was between 1880 and 1890 so this might be in the record somewhere I don't have any information about that but according to the crystal this was some kind of travel from Cape Cod that came over to the Amherst area happened to be coming in this area where this building is was attacked and was probably robbed and killed with a knife and this happened between 1880 and 1890 does that sound correct all that information okay the crystal claims that that is correct so we have a ghost here that happens to be in the building here that was a killed did you by any chance come over to Amherst to visit because the Emily Dickinson or something maybe here is some kind of famous person that or you knew somebody over here did you come to visit a friend did you by any chance just come to go to another area say like you were on your way to Vermont or some other location and you just happen to be coming through Amherst is that what happened okay so this was some kind of a traveler that happened to be traveling through Amherst I was attacked by somebody as a robbery and killed and it was somewhere near this TV station Amherst media which is on College Street here in Amherst I could keep going on but apparently I'm getting a little out of sorts here I'm going to ask the ghost a few more questions and I'm gonna let it go for now I'm not moving the crystal moves by itself are you buried here in Amherst here okay this person is buried in Amherst is it by chance the cemetery there in the center of Amherst is a cemetery over there that is near the high school is that the cemetery okay so this person is buried in that cemetery somewhere near the high school is there a gravestone on your burial spot there is a gravestone there are you going to be able to make out the the words being so old it might be kind of worn away well if you look at the gravestones in the cemetery there would you be able to read the words okay you could read the words there so you're here at this building here because you happen to be killed in this location but they brought your body to the cemetery in downtown Amherst but your spirit is kind of here at the building here is that correct yes the spirit is in the building here so are you saying that there are other spirits here in the building here with you there's other spirits here in the building here are these other spirits companions of yours that might have been attacked at the same time that you were attacked so these are other people that were with this person from Cape Cod that were traveling through the Amherst area they happen to be attacked is it like more than three people is it more than five people so it was like four four other people with you so we're all five of you killed in this area here five people killed in this area in the vicinity of this building here between 1880 and 1890 are these other people are buried with you in that cemetery in Amherst so there are a group of people that were traveling through and I guess they were robbed were these people attacked including you by a large group of Amherst area people here oh boy they're attacked by some local residents in the area here and all killed oh boy so you're in this building here and this is where you're staying for eternity yes well I watched a movie and I I think it was called ghost and a ghost was in a certain building and I guess it became a big sky skyscraper or something but it was that same location as this is similar kind of situation so yes so no matter what happens to be in this location I guess the ghost will be a resident of this area here are you by any chance a ghost that had any kind of religious affiliations no religious affiliations you were traveling through as as a group that were planning on going to another area is that it okay they were traveling through Amherst and happened to be attacked in this particular spot here and they're buried in downtown Amherst was this in the local newspaper say the Amherst newspaper back between 1880 and 1890 so according to the crystal it was in the newspaper some local newspaper if somebody wants to check it out I really I'm not particularly interested in finding information about it I'm sure that there might be people wanting to check into this but I don't happen to be one of them I'm just demonstrating that there are spirits amongst us and that we may not necessarily see these spirits but they seem to be amongst us so you've been here since between 1880 and 1890 yes your companions have been here as well your companions are all men were there some children with you oh boy some children there were there like maybe two men two women and children something like that me let's say two adult men two adult women and two other children two adult women two adult men and one child two adult men two adult children one child well that's a total of five I'm going to ask this again now you said that there's you and another man two women adult women and one child were attacked in this area here and killed is that correct yes were you attacked by some some men yes you were traveling like over the horse and buggy through this area here is that correct yes were these attackers like some robbers on horseback like I used to see on the western movies yes did these attackers have guns yes did you have any weapons with you to protect yourselves if there was any kind of problem did you have any weapons yourselves you did not have any weapons did you think that if you had a weapons that you had with you that you would have prevented this this event so you were unprotected attacked by people with guns you didn't have any guns and you were all killed is that basically what happened maybe this is something that people need to be thinking about in this day and age do you think that the general population should have guns for their own protection do you think that in the time that you were here in this area here that it would have been advisable that you had your own weapons well it says in this day and age not to be needing weapons but in that time period it might have been a good idea to have weapons when they were traveling that sounds logical to me I don't see any problem with that I'm I'm guessing that nowadays people having guns and their shooting people that you hear about on the news all the time you think that these people should have guns do you think the gun laws will protect people from shootings in the future I don't know how far I want to go with this this is just an opinion of a dead person that may not necessarily reflect opinions but apparently this was a group of people that traveled through this area and happened to be killed by some maybe outlaws or something that were here and took whatever valuables they had and left them for dead so that basically what happened they kind of attacked you grabbed your stuff and left you for dead is that what happened did you have a lot of valuable stuff with you say that you had some kind of money or some kind of stuff that you were traveling with and they they wanted to attack you because you had valuables what was that so you didn't have a lot of valuables is that we're saying you did not have a lot of valuables do you think they just killed you because they happen to be just like mentally disturbed people yes well mentally disturbed people shouldn't have guns let's put it this way so we got basically your story so this is this is what I got over the time period I've been asking you questions here you came from Cape Cod is that correct yes you were traveling through this Amherst area in a horse and buggy between 1880 and 1890 that's correct and you were attacked by some men that had weapons is that correct and these men didn't know if you had valuables or not so they just kind of shot and killed you or something like that is that basically what happened okay I need to ask you because you may know or were these men ever caught after they killed you do know if they were caught so these men I guess I got away with murder didn't really get anything out of it so this is a story about the Amherst media building here you have ghosts that are living here that were attacked between 1880 and 1890 you're not gonna do anything about things that are events at the at the Amherst media here there's nothing that you can do is that correct they claim that there's nothing that they can do I had done a program a number of years ago over here where I had this crystal and I went over to the cemetery and I put the crystal over certain tombstone sometimes it went clockwise and sometimes it went counterclockwise so I brought the footage back to the TV station here and my hard drive burned up would you think that that might have been done by one of the ghosts here is that what happened was that done by some other spiritual entity have an explanation why my hard drive burned up the so there's no association between the paranormal and my hard drive burning up after I shot that footage is that correct so the hard drive just happened burn up maybe because of some kind of thing that might have been caused by the electronic equipment maybe some kind of electrical malfunction well I did get that footage there and I did have to go back to the cemetery and shoot it over again and I didn't have any problem with that so perhaps that was caused by some kind of electrical problem with the equipment and the cause the hard drive to burn up I was thinking it was because the spirits didn't like it because I was checking about stuff at the cemetery but according to this one I didn't have anything to do with spirits okay well I'm gonna be finishing up here now so I'm going to ask you are you willing to have this investigated if anybody was interested it'll look up the information is is it between 1880 and 1885 no okay is it between 1885 and 1890 okay it's between 1885 and 1890 that this this thing happened to these people that were traveling through the Amherst area I don't know how much more I can do this here anybody wants to check into that I'm sure you can look it up between 1885 and 1890 and there were a total of five people that were killed by some some robbers or something is that correct yes and and you are buried in the cemetery in downtown Amherst is that correct but your spirits are here at the Amherst media building is that correct is it because this was the location that you happen to be killed in this this location is that the reason yes and you you're primarily on the second floor is that it are you down here on the main floor most of the day so you come down here on the main floor here just once in a while is that correct okay well so the ghost likes to come downstairs here and kind of see what's going on but doesn't like to hang out over here goes back upstairs so I guess the ghosts are hanging around upstairs so if there's any kind of paranormal people that want to come over here and investigate they're free to come over here I'm sure that they might find some kind of evidence of ghosts that are in this building here for now I'm going to let this interview ago because it's getting late and I don't know how long I've been here let me look at my watch it's almost an hour I think I've been talking on this program here so having an interview with the ghost something that you don't ordinarily see on regular TV it's only on something like Amherst media dot org we do alternative programming and now from the alternative society the alternative in a circle the alternative in a circle of people that believe in the paranormal stuff I'm sure that there are other people that are interested in this kind of stuff here they may want to come over to Amherst media and check it out to see what they can find out I don't have any kind of information here I'm sure that if they try to set something up they might be able to pick up some kind of stuff here but I think that you would need some kind of paranormal investigators I went to one of these things in Montague and they set up all kinds of equipment and the audio thing was kind of going off once in a while when they were asking questions so they were using a technology to communicate I'm just using a crystal here the crystal does I have some kind of powers here because it's from nature so I kind of picked this up over the years I kind of was interested in this kind of stuff because I saw it on TV when I watched TV in the past and they mentioned some of some of the stuff that they do and I did investigate about the Ouija board and somebody actually wrote a book about the Ouija board I think the book was entitled the most dangerous game I bought the book but never read it but I think that's available you could probably get that book and read that that's kind of a dangerous thing because you're dealing with spirits and just kind of inviting them to come over and you don't know what kind of spirits you're gonna be dealing with the spirits at this building are here for a reason there's probably other spirits out and about like I said at my house I seem to be having some kind of unusual experiences so I'm going to finish up here and let you kind of contemplate the the consequences of this program it might mean that people might want to look into this I just used my crystal and I'm not moving it around so apparently somebody is giving me the message that people were killed between 1885 and 1890 somebody that was a participant in the Civil War and I guess they were traveling through this area and were attacked by people with weapons maybe a knife guns I don't know let me ask that one last question is was it a knife or guns or both let's see now so a people that attacked you did they attack you just with knives no but they did use a knife on you so they I used some kind of guns and a shot people is that what you're saying so what did they do they shot the people and then use a knife on them afterwards yes well I think that I've had enough of this I don't really want to be dealing with this story here this is not really something that I was planning on doing I was waiting for a guest to show up here and the guest didn't show up so I said well I'll interview the ghost because I checked while I was waiting if there was a ghost in the building and Crystal said yes there is a ghost in the building so that's why I ended up with this program here so I guess I'm gonna let it go and I'm going to say goodbye for now maybe if you come over here you can use some kind of paranormal investigator equipment and try to get some more information but I'm gonna let it go here shut off and I'm gonna say peace