 Welcome to Mind Pump, the world's number one ranked fitness health and entertainment podcast. That's right, we've been voted that 500 times in a row. At least. Maybe. This episode, we answer fitness and health questions that are asked by listeners and viewers just like you. But the way we open the episode is by talking about current events, we talk about studies, we have some fun conversation. So I'm gonna give you a breakdown of the whole episode. By the way, if you want the episode timestamped, so you can just fast forward to your favorite part, go to mindpumppodcast.com. All right, here's the breakdown. We open up by talking about Adam's Tech Surprise. So he gives us a little surprise about tech. Then we talked about the Pluto Pillow and how it's helping everybody sleep really well. Pluto Pillow is a company, you go on their website and you customize, according to your height, the way you like your pillow to feel, if you like to sleep a little warmer, a little cooler, you can customize your own pillow, get it delivered to your door and you will experience the best sleep you've ever had in your entire life. And because you listen to Mind Pump, you get 10% off your first order. Here's what you do. Go to PlutoPillow.com, that's P-L-U-T-O, pillow.com forward slash mind pump and then use the code Mind Pump for that discount. Then we talk about a restaurant owner. He owns a restaurant called Restaurante de Maria. See, I said it right there. Yeah, I was hoping you would. The owner's name is George. He showed Justin and Courtney and family a really good time because they've been evacuated from the house through the fires. If you guys are around that restaurant, make sure you go there. Tell me what's on Mind Pump. Please support him, he's awesome. Buy a lot of food. Then I talked about my daughter and the wonderful compliments I got from other parents, almost made me cry. Then we had a great conversation about supplements back in the day. They were way more powerful back then and more dangerous. Then we talked about Walmart potentially buying TikTok, that's cool. Adam talked about Bella Thorne and her fans only page. Are you subscribed? Yeah, it might be. Then I talked about my buddy who's a Dodger fan throwing away his Dodgers stuff, his clothes and hats. He's a lifelong fan. Sports is pissing people off a lot these days. Bold news. Then we talked about the Call of Duty trailer which was a little weird. We talked about a show called Hard Knocks on HBO. I talked about Adam's cookie dough protein balls. They're delicious, slightly salty peanut butter balls made with OrganiFy's vanilla protein. You just wanna put it all in your mouth. You can fit all of them in your mouth. If you go to the OrganiFy Instagram page they have recipes on there. Now OrganiFy is a company that we work with that makes organic supplements. My favorite is their protein powder. There's no dairy in there, no gluten. So it's easy to digest. It's got a great amino acid profile because they combine different vegan sources of protein because single sourced vegan proteins are not as good. They also have a green juice which is great if you miss your vegetables. They have a red juice that can give you a good pre-workout stimulant that doesn't have stimulants. There's no caffeine in it. Anyway, go check them out. And because you listen to Mind Pump, use our discount. All you gotta do is go to organifi.com that's O-R-G-A-N-I-F-I.com forward slash Mind Pump. Use the code Mind Pump and you'll get 20% off at checkout. Then we talked about the most regretted college majors and I talked about a man who found out his wife was having an affair by using Google Maps. Oops. Then we got into the fitness portions where we answer fitness questions. Here's the first one. What are the most chronically under-trained muscle groups for most people? The next question, this person wants to improve their stamina and endurance for mountain trekking but also likes to lift weights. What's a good balance? The next question, what actually constitutes processed foods? Because we talk about how processed foods tend to make people gain weight. What are processed foods? Well, actually, Sal. And the final question, have we ever seen clients or others use faith to battle gluttony? Also, 72 hours left for the Mind Pump Maps performance 50% off sale. So Maps Performance is a workout program designed to help you build muscle, burn body fat, become faster, improve your stamina, speed and your mobility. It is a workout program that uses traditional and non-traditional exercises. Many people say it's the most fun Maps program that we have because it's so different. It's also the only Maps program that has a power explosive phase. At the end of this program, there's a whole phase with plyometrics and explosive power. It's a great program. It's half off. You got three days left to take advantage of this promotion. Here's what you do. Go to mapsgreen.com. That's M-A-P-S-G-R-E-N.com and use the code green 50. That's G-R-E-N-5-0. No space for the discount. I was talking to someone the other day about like unintended consequences of becoming so dependent on tech. You know, like, Sal, you know, I've talked about this. I remember I challenged you when you said that I do some terrible directions and I'm like, I'm just as bad as you. But I don't think that I was always that way. Like, I wasn't that way until, what is it, TomTom or whatever was the first one that really came out. So I was talking about like these, this was a conversation. And I think when you talk about things like this, it's kind of like when you get a new car and then you see the car all the time, like shit starts happening to you. So last night, I'm putting Max down. And I, so Katrina, first of all, it puts his room like pitch black. Like we have the double blackout curtains in there. Like she's like adamant about like not a single night light. That's good. Yeah, she will pitch pitch black in there. Which, you know, okay, for, that's great. I agree, you know, but also very difficult to walk around in and see shit. And so we have that. You don't know where the monsters are coming from. Yeah, yeah. We have that camera, right? So last night. It's got night vision on it, doesn't it? Yeah. So has night vision on it. So you could totally see him clear on the camera. So, but then the glow from my phone will like distract him and like he'll know I'm in the room and wake him up. And I set him down last night. And you know, I normally, what I do is like, we're teaching him to go down awake. Like he's past that age where you rock him to sleep every single night. Now it's like, hey, it's bedtime and you set him down and you know, try and get him to relax. And so I'm setting him down. And a lot of times what I'll do is I'll set him down then I'll go sit down on the rocking chair and I take the iPhone and I put it under my shirt and then tuck my head under and then I'll like watch the camera. Like it's with my head. Like in my shirt. Like you're in the room? Yeah, well, I'm in the room. So I can see what he's doing, you know, like is he, and I'll watch and see if he's, you know, sometimes I can tell he's like teething and so I'll give him something that he can teeth on or whatever, or if I can tell if he's almost asleep so I can sneak out because if I walk out and he's not quite almost out and I open the door then light comes shining in or what that it'll, then he'll get, you know, he'll wake up. So anyways, to my point, right? Of like, you know, being reliant on tech, right? So I'm sitting on this rocking chair and I'm like looking at her and Katrina is also watching him downstairs. So she's downstairs and she's texting me. Like, you know, oh, he's almost asleep. I'm like, yeah, no, I'm watching. And she's like, oh, you're in the room? The light's probably, I'm like, no, no, I do it on my shirt. So I'm like texting her with underneath my shirt and then going back and forth and look at him. Well, I'm swiping back between the app where I can view him and then talking to Katrina. And this is my point of like, we become so dependent on apps. I freak the fuck out because the app froze and I didn't realize that it froze. And so when I go back from saying Katrina, like, yeah, no, he's fine. And then I go back and I look at the camera. He's not in the, in the bed. And it's pitch black. And right before that, I heard kind of like a, you know, I heard like this thumping sound on the bed. So I like, shoot up like, ah, like freaked out. Like then he jumped out of the bed or he fell or some shit. And then the camera like unfreezes and he's right there. And then he's like looking up at me, dead it. I still got your shirt over your head. Oh, yes, son. Oh, dude. Look at it, look at it. It's like a scary movie. Like he's not there. And then the next thing you know, you look and he's like on your back. He's on the ceiling, just hey, dad. My heart, my heart stopped, dude. It just, I was not, we're not ready for that at all. It's just not in the bed at all. It does sound like one of those horror movies though, right? Yeah. Or you're looking at that and then the kid like, he's just gone. You're like, wait a minute. Where is he? He rotates like 180 degrees. Yeah. Dada. Oh! What the hell's going on? Yeah, the worst part is you don't know anybody's phone number. Yeah. I don't know your guys' phone number. I call you guys all the time. I know like my parents' phone number and then I know three of my best friends, like parents' phone numbers. That's it. I don't know Jessica's phone number. So I know Katrina is only because this was a big deal to her when we were first dating. You know, we were like three, five years in our relationship and she used to get mad at me. She's like, you don't even know my phone number. We've been together for so long. I'm like, huh, it's like in my phone. She's like, what if you were stranded somewhere and you didn't have your phone and you needed to call me? You couldn't even call me. Yeah, you'll remember. I've memorized. Yeah, Courtney. Yeah, my retaliation to that or whatever my retort is, I'll remember 911 if I'm in a situation like that. Oh, that's good. Like if I'm that big of an emergency, I don't need to know your phone number. What are you going to do for me? I just got to remember 911. Dude, my dad said such a good dad joke the other day. Dad jokes are great. I'm just going to say that right now. I love them. So my dad, he speaks broken English, right? Cause he's an Italian immigrant. Yeah. So we're all sitting around, you know, we had dinner, my kids were over there or whatever and we're hanging out and dinners over and my dad goes to my daughter goes, Hey, he goes, uh, you like, uh, you like ice cream? And she goes, yeah, I like ice cream. And he goes, ah, dude, we died laughing so hard. Cause that's how he would say it, you know, you want ice cream, you know, he started screaming. That's, that's great. Yeah. Anyway, a sleep speaking of sleep, um, you know, cause, cause Jessica's in the third trimester. Her sleep is like really hard, right? It's very difficult. She has to pee pretty much all the time, which is kind of, I forgot what that was like, like every 15 minutes she has to go pee, hard to sleep, whatever. So we've done a few things in the room that make a big difference. And the Pluto pillow is, is, Is she loving it or what? It's game changer. You know what the big thing is, is it stays cool. Yeah. I think that's the thing that she likes. That's my favorite part. Yeah. Because like I said earlier, what I've said before in previous podcasts, her body temperature is become lava. And so you should see my kids, they wear sweaters in the house in the middle of August in California. You like see their breath. Yeah. My kids have blankets. Like, it's cold, but I'm like, Jessica's like, the AC's broken. And my kids are like, no, no, no, it's working. Yeah. It's working just fine. The only fight I even had as of late with all this madness going on, it has been over like the fan or the AC and then the control of like our climate, you know, that we're in, you know, at the time. Cause like that's, that's such one of those things that just always like pops up. Cause we're so polar opposites in terms of like how, you know, the, the temperature that's the most comfortable to sleep in. I'm like, dude, we got to get this thing down. Like not getting any sleep. And then if I do it, I know she's not gonna get any sleep. And so then I compromised the next day and we're back and forth. Cause I don't have my, my, my, my go-to stuff, dude. I don't have my chili pad. I don't have the Pluto pillow. I don't have any of that stuff. Oh, did you not get the Pluto pillow? Dude, this guy, he's just sounds like of all the things you grab, all the things you forgot your Pluto pillow or your chili pad. No, I don't have any of that stuff right now. And I feel it, dude. Like it's, it's, I swear I want it. I want, I want chili and Pluto both. I think they're, they're like tagline for sales should be like saving marriages, you know what I'm saying? Because that is the biggest thing of incantation at my house too. It's like we are polar opposites. Last night, again, we were getting into it this morning cause I was like, you changed the temperature. I know you did. And I was like, I woke up with a headache and sweating at like three o'clock in the morning. And I, and I roll over, she's coming back. I guess Max woke up in the middle of the night and she put him back down and she's coming back to bed and I'm getting up and I'm like, why did you change the AC? She goes, I didn't touch it. And then I stomp downstairs and I get down there and sure as shit, it's up two degrees. And I change it back down and I come down. It was up to 69. What the fuck? You know, I can't sleep well. I feel every degree I do for a long time. Yeah. Jessica swears, we, I mean, we had a whole argument about it swears that the AC is not working. She's like, no, it's not working. I'm like, honey, the air's coming out. It's cold. No, the temperature hasn't changed. I'm like, okay. Even if the AC was broken, the thermometer on it would not be, and it says clearly here that it's 67 degrees in the house. Well, why am I so hot? You're pregnant. That's why. You're really pregnant right now and that's why you're so hot. Oh man, we went to this restaurant last time. I had to like bring this up cause it was like, I got to a point where I was getting frustrated with just everything going on and like just so many people. I'm losing hope in humanity, you know, for the most part but we got like this guy, he owns his own restaurant. We were just like, where do we go? And my kids really wanted pizza. I wanted like Italian food and all this. And I'm like, oh, I'm always like the one dragon my feet for that cause of all, you know, the gluten and everything else that I'm gonna have to eat. I'm like, you know, forget it. Let's give the kids a win. Let's go to this place. And this place was, I don't know if you guys have ever been there before. I think it's called a restaurante de Maria, I think. The owner's name is George, but I have to give him a shout out because he was like the most kind human being like I've run into, you know, since, like it was like we got there and like he, we're his only customer. He basically like adjusted the whole restaurant so you could come in and you'd take out now but he had like two, he just opened up so he had like two tables outside and right next to us, like there's this restaurant that was just going crazy. It had all kinds of people there like lively and all this stuff and people kind of came in, they looked at his restaurant and they went over to the one next to him, you know and I was just like, I don't know, like this, I don't know if this place is going to be that great or whatever. And so I sit down and like, you know, and he's like definitely an immigrant that started his own business like super appreciative that we're there like with the family and everything. We told him why we're there and the fires and all that. We got in this discussion and then, you know so he takes our order, goes to the stuff and then he starts presenting us like even more appetizers that we didn't order. And he's just like, here, no, I want you to try this and then I want you to try this. So we got this water that we have on this filtration system that's like, you know and it was really good. And we're like, this is your tap water? It's amazing, you know, like he's giving us like cannolis and he's giving us like tiramisu's that's like out of this world. Oh, nice guy. And we're just like, and he wouldn't like let us pay, you know, at the end, like the tip or anything. I'm like, no, we're getting this fight. You know, like I'm like, no, I'm gonna pay for this. He's like, no, no, no, I'm gonna pay for this. You know what? That's it. So my uncle owns a restaurant and you know, he's obviously an immigrant and that's how he always has been with his customers. And as a result, his restaurants always do well. The people love going in. He walks around the restaurant as the owner, drinks with people, he'll walk up to someone, he knows their name, how are you doing? Sits down. That's how Fortello's is. Yeah, brings over, you know, some wine or whatever. This is the small business aspect that people don't understand. Like it's under attack. And so I just, I just felt and my kids noticed it and they were just like, man, that guy was so nice and I can't believe all the stuff he was doing for us. And it's like, you know, we just need, we need that right now. Everybody's so against each other and so divisive and it's such, it's hard, man. People are going through shit right now. You know, the solution is turn off all your media. Don't watch any news for a week and just talk to people and watch what happens. I swear to God. 100%. You start to realize people are not crazy. Yeah. You know, most people are normal. Most people are on your side and really trying to, you know, have a helpful attitude. Yeah, and they're nice. Hey, so you guys know, I told you guys, obviously we're still doing the distance learning with the schools or whatever but we've been organizing these like pods where the kids will meet up with their, you know, two or three other kids and we're still, you know, we're still following guidelines and all that stuff but at least they're around other kids rather than being alone in their bedroom, doing their school or whatever. And this is the first week. We're kind of testing it out. Huge success. Oh, good. My daughter, her attitude is so different. She's so much more lively. Her and her friends are connecting. We've turned what could be a crappy memory for them into one that's a really good one. They're really enjoying it. The kids are all getting along. I got some of the best compliments ever, by the way. It's where I brought a tear to my eye. Every parent likes to hear from other parents how great their kid is. Of course. You know what I'm saying? And so what I hear is from them is, oh, your daughter, she's so responsible. She organized the girls to clean up afterwards. Yeah. You know, or she's keeping them on track and making sure they're, oh yeah, dude. I was getting the whole like, oh, something's in my eye. You know why they're telling me. They're gonna go to the other room. Yeah. So my son, too. My son, too, he organized one with one of his friends. It's funny. So my boy is just turned 15, right? This is when boys change very quickly with the way they look. So this morning, I haven't seen this particular friend of his since all the shutdowns. So it's been what, six months now? It's been five or six months? That's it, five, six months. Just haven't seen this other kid for that long. He just sprouted up. Dude, I dropped him off this morning, you know, and you know what, said hi to the parents. He comes around. Whole, it's like testosterone hit his body all of a sudden. You know, he's got the little bit of the, little bit of the whiskers coming out. The voice all changed, sprouted up. Hey, Sal, how you doing? Holy shit. What's up, buddy? I grew like seven inches over one summer. I went from playing point guard, right? So my freshman year in high, freshman and sophomore year, I was playing point and then sophomore year shooting guard. And then I jumped all the way up to playing like power forward and center and shit because I went all the way up to six foot. But I was, Was it a one summer or one year? Yeah, it was like over the, over the course of a year in a summer. Did it hurt? Did you get problems? Can you see your legs? So I didn't get, I don't remember, at least I don't remember, I don't remember growing pains, but I do remember feeling a little awkward. Like being, I'd been an athlete since I was a kid. Like I've been playing soccer since I was probably like seven, six, seven years old, right? So I've been playing sports forever. And never had I felt out of my body until, until that year. So I definitely did feel different. What it felt like, I kind of, you know, feel this way now, where your brain tells you you can do things, but your body just doesn't, it's for different reasons. Now you're just getting old. Yeah. Operating like it should. Yeah, this, now it's because I just, I'm getting old, right? And slowing down and joints are achy and you're like, oh, you make noises when you sit down or get up, right? Okay, that's now. Then it was more like, it's just clumsy. You know, I felt like a great Dane puppy if you ever seen them before, you know, or just kind of wobbly all over the place until you like learn your body and shit. Oh, I got, did you guys get stretch marks from when you started first working out or growing or whatever? Yeah, my quads like crazy. Yeah, I got, and I remember how happy I was to get there. I know that's apparently stretch marks are a bad thing, right? But nobody wanted it. Oh, I loved it. That and the bicep on the end, I was like, oh yeah. Yeah, that was me. I'm like, it's working. Yeah. Yeah. Mega mass 2000s, I'd say. It's all the supplements. Yeah, but I had them in like in my armpits in the back of my arms. I remember wearing tank tops and like I put my arms behind my head like people could notice. Yeah. What's that on your arm? Oh, they're purple stretch marks. They're fresh. Oh, that's a stretch mark. Cause my chest is getting so massive. It's all my muscle. Yeah. Oh. My muscle's growing too fast. Yeah, I weigh 160 now. Anyway. I don't have a whole lot of room left. I don't know if you noticed. Yeah. I love thinking back to those days when I first got it. I still, I always love working out. It's just one of my favorite things to do. But those days were just so special. It was so new. Yeah. Every new exercise I discovered was just so exciting. Working out, every supplement was this cool new thing and every routine I would follow. You know, I kind of missed those. That's interesting that you have a view like that. I have like, mine was way more frustrated. I was frustrated, dude. I mean, I remember being a kid and trying everything and just not feeling like I got any sort of response at all. That feeling I was working so hard to try and gain. I remember the first day I worked out in my backyard when my parents finally gave me the green light that I was able to, I was 14 and I was like begging them all the time. And finally my mom was like, fine, you're killing us. I remember that first workout, the weights, the iron, putting the dumbbells that were adjustable dumbbells, screwing the thing on. I remember the first day I went into the YMCA, which was the actual first gym I worked out, using cables for the first time. And then going to 24-hour fitness. My very first workout at 24-hour fitness, my dad dropped me off and this is before cell phones and all that stuff. And I told him, he said, when do you want me to pick you up? And I told him, three hours, give me three hours. And he's like, three hours? He goes, are you sure? I said, yeah, I'm gonna hang out. I'm gonna, whatever, you know, I was with my cousin. Yeah, give us three hours. We're gonna go to the store. But the reality is we literally did everything. We did every piece of cardio, every single machine. Is this an ankle thing? We bought, so we had money because we worked. I used to wash dishes or whatever, so I'd cash. So I went in there and once my dad left, and I could be like, oh, I could buy whatever I want. I saw behind the counter, they had all the drinks that looked like they were like, that's gonna make me so hot. You know, the ABB one? Yeah. Oh, dude. They had eagles on them. Oh, bro, I bought Blue Thunder. Do you guys remember Blue Thunder? Okay, so Blue Thunder was, what a shitty drink. It had everything. That was its calling card. So if you looked at the back and you read it, and I remember this. I remember having the poor girl give me every single drink so I could pick the right one. And I'd look at the back, and I chose Blue Thunder because it had everything. I didn't understand that supplement companies would basically put two molecules of each ingredient. So it said it had, but it had everything, like Smilax, Tribulus, you know, everything. So I'm like, I'm getting that. Bought two bottles, my cousin bought two bottles. Then we bought a bottle of Amino Force 5000 or whatever, drank those, worked out for three hours, got home, threw up, and then had to, I couldn't go to school the next day because I was so sore. Do you know where that company is today? Do you know? Oh, they still exist. ABB? Uh-huh. What is the acronym? Although I'm... I would see them in gold. American bodybuilding. American bodybuilding. That's what it is. Had a picture of an eagle. Could you look, yeah. Could you look at them up, Doug? I mean, they were the shit back in the days. I mean, that was the... They dominated the gym. Yeah, beverage. You don't hear nothing about them anymore. I wonder if they're getting crushed right now. That's what I wanna know. I'm really curious to see how they're doing. I mean, do they still get sold? I don't see them, I used to see them everywhere. I used to see them at 7-Eleven's. Used to see them in every gym. Used to see them anywhere. I don't see them hardly ever. Well, they... If I go to like an old gym, they're there right there. Yeah, it's the same drinks. Look at that. Max recovery, speeds. So they still have speed stacks. Speed stacks. See if you can refine an article on them, Doug. Business-wise. Just click on news. I just go up to the top and click on news. It'll give you all the article. I'll tell you what, kids. Listening to this podcast right now who are younger than I am. The speed stack drink you drink now, it ain't shit. No, the real one, the original article had a fedra. It's all artificial flavoring and the fedra and caffeine. The one that we had when we were younger was literally drugs. It was speed. I mean, it was in the name. It was, dude, it was 20, this is what it was, okay? 25 milligrams of fedra alkaloids. Plus caffeine, plus like 300 milligrams of caffeine. Caffeine, a fedra alkaloid. So first, you can't buy a fedra. You could see into the future. Yeah, and it had white willow bark, which was a natural version of aspirin. So you've numbed your body so you could take all this craziness. Oh, man. And it made you feel crazy. Do you remember the first time you drank that or took a fedra? I do. What happened? Oh, I liked it. I liked it. Well, you know, that was right in the heart of like my, you know who, what it was introduced to me from was a buddy of mine, Mark, who came, like we met when I was 20. Mark introduced you to? Yeah. Your first time drinking it was in your 20s? 20, 22. Man, I'm gonna die early. 22. Let's try to other ABB products before that, like the max, like so when I was a kid and I first got a gym membership, which was around 18, 19 years old, and we were going to Innersport in Modesto. So shout out to that gym if it still exists. Innersport. Innersport Modesto. I did work out there once. Yeah, well, we shot a video there. We shot the original Maps Black was shot in my original gym. They had the nautilus equipment with instead of the cord or the whatever, it was chain. Yeah, yeah. Those are the good ones. Yeah, that was great. It was a great gym, but the things that I was drinking back then was, you know, mass recovery, mass builder, like all the, and those ones are nasty tasting. Oh yeah, 100 grams of dextrose. Oh, that's all sugar there. I didn't drink a lot of speed, in thermo, the speed stack, none of those because I knew I was a skinny kid trying to build. I wasn't trying to take. Exactly, because they were fat burner. Yeah, I wasn't trying to take no fat burner and it sped up my already super fast metabolism. So I didn't get introduced to speed stacks and the thermo stuff and nefedra until I was about 22 working with my buddy and we drank it not before a workout. It was like a work day. Like we're going to grind today. We're going to make a hundred phone calls. That's how I got introduced to, Adam introduced it to me. Yeah, for work, not for working out. I was, before that, though, I'll be honest, there's this thing that it was called mini-thins. Oh, that's, yeah, that's you. This is like the same thing. The truckers use it, right? So we did that a few times before we trained, but mainly before we had football games. And so you would literally be like foaming at the mouth the first half and then completely crash, you know, the next half, but I had 20 tackles one game like in the first half, dude, I was going crazy. Oh yeah. That's what happened. I remember I had like one of the best work days I've ever had. I remember looking back at the day going like, whoa, I nailed a hundred something phone calls. I took six fits, I trained like six clients. He's like a 14 hour day and I'm like, I'm good. No, I read an article by, it was a Muscle Media 2000, which backed those Bill Phillips. And that was back in the day when Bill Phillips was before EAS, right? Before he started EAS. And Muscle Media 2000 in those days, you had a bunch of bodybuilding magazines and muscle building magazines. This was before the internet, right? And each, you had kind of different markets in that space and Muscle Media 2000 catered to the hardcore kind of edgy black market muscle builders. So it talked about steroids. It talked about the latest chemicals and the new supplement that might get banned and what the pros really do. So of course, which magazine do you think I'm gonna, I'm going to that one. I'm like, this has got the secrets. I don't know, the stuff is fake. This is for real. So I read then, I read an article and it was about Ultimate Orange, which is the first pre-workout. And Ultimate Orange had a Fedra in there. Better than Agent Orange. And I read, yeah. I read about a Fedra and like you Adam, I was skinny and it said, oh great fat burner this and that. But then I read this article and it said, the most crazy intense focus you'll have your entire life. Super intense, you know, the studies show that lifters lifted 10 or 15% more weight because it is very strong. That's what got you. Yeah, so I'm like, oh really? I'm like, this is cool. So a Fedra, then I'm like, what about caffeine? Then I went and I got a chemistry book at the library and I said, I'm gonna learn about these alpha, this particular receptor that the chemicals attached to. How old are you when you decided to do this? We're so opposite. Maybe 16 or something. This is where we're totally different. Oh yeah, you were. Try as much as I can and then I'll report back to you on how I feel. You were trying to feather your hair the right way. I was looking at it. Something, I'm gonna go with the line marrying. I'm gonna get a chemistry book and figure this out. Hey, that's all good. So that's why we made good partners. So I looked up these receptors and I learned about Yohembi and Yohembi basically if one chemical raises the heat of a thermostat the other one turns the thermostat off so it just keeps going up. So I'm like, this is gonna be a great combination. I'm gonna get a Fedra, caffeine, I'm gonna buy some aspirin and then I'm gonna take Yohembi with it. It's gonna be freaking fire, right? 16 year old chemistry experiment, right? Took all those supplements together, went to the gym, rode my bike to the gym and worked out like I was possessed. I remember this like, look, this is amazing. Anyway, two hours later, I couldn't come down. I remember I came home and I sat on the edge of my bed sweating and feeling my heart rate and I was putting my hand up to my heart. I remember thinking like, man, my mom's gonna be so mad when I die. Like this is not gonna be, I'm gonna, so I laid down and tried to like calm myself down and then finally I was able to calm. That was my last time combining all those. That's a horrible feeling. Don't combine those supplements. Did you guys hear the news now? So Walmart is now putting their name in the hat for TikTok. So they're starting to bid on them. Trying to court. Meanwhile, China's like, ah, we got all the information already. Like, hey, cool, pay us for it now. That sounds cool, yeah. Like what? See, it gets the last laugh in this one, right? Yeah, it gets the last laugh. I mean, yeah, sure people will still use it and do their little dances and whatnot, but you know, like, come on. What are we doing? Yeah, can I tell you that? So TikTok annoys the shit out of me, but why is it that so many medical professionals use TikToks? I see all these doctors and nurses in their 40s and they're like dancing and pointing to stuff. No, what it is, is that, I mean, this is, it's the, yeah, I blame it on Gary Vee. That's who I blame it on, I say, because everybody respects Gary Vee as an entrepreneur, because he's a badass, of course, and I love Gary Vee. Yeah, yeah, I love Gary Vee, but you get him, someone like that, who influences so many other entrepreneurs and he tells everybody, oh, ah, ah. Excuse me. Yeah, that's COVID. Yeah, the cough. So Gary Vee tells everybody, you know, that they need to get on TikTok because it's the next big platform to explode. So, you know, all these, you know, physicians and entrepreneurs that are in their 40s, like you're alluding to, Sal, you know, they're trying to figure it out. They're getting on all the social media platforms. I mean, we weren't much different, you know, five, six years ago, when you think about us, none of us were big Instagram, Facebook, YouTube, podcasting guys. Oh, I fought against it. Oh yeah, no, you resist. We all resisted it quite a bit. What I think is funny is that they hear that from like Gary Vee and they just start doing it with like no real rhyme or reason or understanding how the platform works or how will this actually translate into leads. It's just like, oh, if I can get attention on this platform. And I hear that the algorithm for TikTok, who did I see talking about this? I saw somebody talking about, TikTok does it different than like Instagram makes it difficult for people to find you or even your own people that are following you to see everything that you are posting in your feed. So it's a little more, you know, exclusive, I guess you would say. And TikTok is more like, you get a lot more likes and views. It's a lot easier. So I think what you see is some of these 40 year olds that have never- Getting lots of attention. Ooh, they like this. Yeah, yeah. They're like, oh, they get a lot of likes or a lot of followers. At least 13 year olds. I know all the 13 year olds I think it's like, you know, speaking of social media and influencers and things like that. Do you guys know who Bella Thorne is? Yeah. Oh, did you see this? No, I didn't see this, but I know about her. I know she was a Disney actor. Yes. And then she went crazy. So she was a, she's, you know, she's like a, what were they? Mouseketeer. Yeah, Mouseketeer or whatever, like Britney Spears and Justin Timberlake or whatever. Right? Yeah. So she was a little masketeer. It's weird how they all go crazy, isn't it? Yeah, right? She started an OnlyFans page, okay? An OnlyFans page in two days, made $2 million. Crashed it. Didn't she crash the site? Bro. Think about how many, it's just so many creepy dudes, you know, watching. Oh, my daughter used to watch shows that are just like, yeah, finally. And I believe that's reoccurring revenue too, because OnlyFans is a membership thing. It's not like you pay for it and you have access forever. She talked about, she was on an interview and she did, there's this viral video of her talking about how she was, how it was terrible at Disney. And she said, got molested. Oh, I didn't know that. That's what she said. Whoa. Yes, look it up, look it up. Sorry, didn't mean to bring conspiracy stuff into this. Oh, wow, I didn't know that, yeah. She did. I just thought the whole $2 million in two days was amazing. I don't know, man. I feel like, yeah. Hey, how conflicted do you feel as a dad? What do you mean? Why would I be conflicted? You know, your daughter's an entrepreneur. She had two million dollars. No, no, no. It's not worth that, dude. I don't know. There's not enough money to sell yourself out that way. It's worth it. Yeah, you know, well, I mean, what's, and then, okay, let's play this game. I mean, it's better than hooking. I was gonna say, what's worse, if she was hooking or she was a stripper, even, I mean, which one is worse? Yeah, that's always fair. You can always play that game. Yeah, you can. What's worse, being a psychopathic, tyrannical leader? I know I'm an alcoholic, but you know, it could be a crack addict. Good point, Sal. Oh, yeah, yeah. Stick to it. That is worse. Anyway, that's crazy. Two million dollars. Yeah, two million dollars. She crashed the whole thing, though, huh? I know, I know. Hey, what's going on with sports right now? I keep reading how they're tanking, dude. Please God, don't go here. Is sports, are you really gonna go here? Dude, hold on. You know why I'm saying this? This is a shit show. So I don't follow it, okay? I don't follow sports. I could care less, usually. But I have a buddy who is a hardcore Dodgers fan. Like when I say hardcore, I mean when his kids were born, that was the first thing that they wore. He is just die hard, win, lose, doesn't matter, whatever. And the other day, he sent me a video throwing away his Dodgers stuff because he's so over sports, just not being sports anymore and being just all put. Yeah, someone like him to do that makes me think that if he's gonna do that. It's been hard for me, dude. I mean, I've remained pretty quiet about it just because one, here's what, here's somebody challenged me. I had someone who DMed me and I went back and forth because they're like, you know, I feel like you avoid these questions. I'm like, no, you asked me a direct question like you just did related to this. I'll give my opinion on it. But I'm also not somebody who's gonna make a big deal about this stuff either. So I mean, here's the deal. I support freedom of speech. You have every right to boycott games, to stand up and say things, kneel down and do things. I support all that. I mean, if you wanna do that, you can do that. I also support people that decide, hey, I don't wanna see that and I don't wanna watch it. I don't wanna be a part of it. And to me, that's the only thing that I feel I should or should do. I don't have a dog in this fight to where I feel the need to use my platform to voice my opinion, all this. It's just that, well, I don't like watching the NBA right now. It's just too much for me. It's, they've gone way over the top on the political side and pushing the BLM thing big time. At a point where it's like, I tune into sports to tune out the rest of this world. Yeah, that makes sense. Someone, that's what draws me to sports. There's no escape right now, anywhere. That's right. I don't feel like I get my escape by doing that. I mean, it's already enough that being in the limelight like we are, we get constant messages and we're talking about it and we're always on social and we're seeing all this stuff all the time. My butt, there's a huge division in half of my friends because of all the political race going on right now. Man, nothing more than ever do I want to just tune into like my favorite sport, watch it and not have any of that stuff. I just want to see the game. I love the game. I love the game so much that that's all I want. And it's not right now. And you know what? I respect the men that want to make a point because they feel strong about something but my way of making a point is like, I'm not going to watch. I'm not going to tune in and we're not going to get my ratings. I was going to say, you're not alone. I know their ratings are terrible during a time when their ratings should be crushing because there's nothing else to do. Aren't they talking about maybe like canceling seasons? Well, they just, so last night and this just came down. Now, I'm not watching, right? So I, and I'm in a thread. There's like we are sports thread. These are my close friends that we, that's what we have most in common as sports. And we talk a lot of trash. We all have different sports teams that we like. And so I'm still somewhat in the loop of like what's going on in the NBA but I'm not watching like I normally am because I'm in this thread. And so I didn't even know until one of them said like, well, I guess we won't be watching any NBA games tonight. I'm like, what's going on? And they're like, oh yeah, the NBA is the teams, the Lakers, the Trailblazers, the Milwaukee Bucks. And I forgot who the fourth team was all decided they're not going to play. Oh yeah, I think it was the magic. You're right. All decided we're not going to play. So they just decided we're not going to play. And then I know LeBron came out with a tweet that said like they're considering boycotting the whole season and that they were going to just stop and potentially stop playing all together all due to the response to the Jacob incident. But now news is coming out. This is not even 12 hours later from the boycott that they're all going back. And so the rumor is that, you know, China has a lot of power and pull over a lot of these NBA players and is saying you guys need to get your ass back to work or we're not going to make very much, you're not going to make money or any contribution from our end over here. And now they're going to back to play. So that's the rumor. Now I'm, like I said, disconnected because I'm not watching it as much. But yeah, exactly. And this is just it. I don't want to be in all that bullshit, dude. I just want to watch the game, dude. I just want to watch sports, man. You make a good point. People, they like certain forms of entertainment to get away and escape from stressful situation. This is why during stressful times superhero movies tend to do really well because superhero movies aren't talking about what's happening right now. It's a fantasy world. You're watching sports are like that. Oh, it's just football. We know who wins. We know who loses. Oh, it's basketball. It's objective. We see the score. Here we go. But so it makes sense that that would turn off. Oh, I mean, you know what's interesting right now to kind of bring up too with the video game world. So you're talking about like versions of entertainment to go as a place in terms of like, I want to escape. And I want to like just play this game mindlessly and all this kind of stuff. If you guys have, have you watched the trailer for the new Call of Duty? No. Oh, so it's really fascinating. It's, so they use clips from this viral video from a long time ago. I don't know if it's from like the 70s or from a while ago from this KGB, XKGB agent that was kind of talking about how they're use, we're going to use psychological warfare like against, you know, America and like the, like I know you've seen this before, Sal. Yeah, I've seen that video. This specific video, but it goes into great detail of like how they would plan something like what we're seeing, you know, like happening within our country. And it was interesting because it's like, I wonder, you know, if they're trying to educate people on like past historical videos and things that have happened that people have started to talk about these things in depth and try to explain this. And like, so maybe they're trying to get these kids that are playing these games to kind of understand a little bit further of like what may be also a factor to all this stuff. Oh, interesting. Yeah, I don't know. I was watching last night too. And again, I just was not a fan. Okay, so I love the show Hard Knocks. I don't know if you guys have ever seen Hard Knocks before and it's on HBO, I believe does HBO does it or Showtime, one of those two. I forget which one. So Hard Knocks is they always, they've been doing this now for, I want to say a good seven, seven, eight years. It's been a while now. Every year they follow like one NFL team, like during the preseason, like, and it's really cool. It's, and it's because I think it's HBO, it's done really well. Like it's shot really good. They mic up the players. You get a lot of cool behind the scenes with the coaches and the players and the tryouts and you see the cuts of the guys. Like it's just a really cool for sports fanatics, guys that are just getting excited for the NFL. You get to kind of watch this show. And it's like happening like right now. This is they're going through camp right now and they film it pretty close to live. You're only like, I want to say a week or two behind what's happening in real time for sports. And so Katrina and I were like looking for a show. Yeah, there it is right there. They followed the LA Rams and Chargers because they're both using the same facility this year. Yeah, I love hard knocks. So I was all excited about that. I'm like, oh, cool. We love hard knocks. It's already got three episodes out. Let's start to watch it. And so, you know, we watched the first two episodes the night before last and then Katrina was like, okay, do you want to finish hard knocks? I'm like, yeah, put it on if you want. I'm like, the whole thing is around COVID. And I get it because that's a big deal right now. And like trying to navigate and figure this. But again, it's just an example. I'm so thirsty for sports that I like, I want to see the hitting, the shit talking, the like great plays being executed, the guy who was the underdog who's coming. Not who's wearing a mask, who's not. That's it, it's all about guys who got, oh, shit, another guy got it, you know? And then like, what was it like getting COVID? And, you know, I was an outcast and nobody liked me. All that talking? Oh yeah, and it's, you know, It's like watching porn with dialogue. Oh, it's. Nobody wants to hear you talk. Come on pizza guy, just take your shirt off. It is, it is. And you know, there's, okay, obviously there's a side of me that understands this is a big part of what these guys are all having to deal with this year. But it doesn't make for good television and entertainment, not for someone, at least not for me. Like I want to see, what I tune into sports is exactly what I just alluded to. Like I want to see the hard hits, the great plays, the underdog coming over. The training. Yeah, the training of the athletes. The sports. Yes, dude, that's why I love the game. And it's like everything is about, you know, players getting in trouble for not wearing their mat. They got these little sensors that if they're not six feet apart, they vibrate and beep on them. You know, one coach gets it, then it's a false negative and all the stress of like this guy getting, it's just like, I don't get you. Was there 77 that tested positive or whatever? And then they came back and were like, Oh, they were all false negatives. Oh dude, I know. Yeah, that's what happened. One of the coaches on this in Hard Knocks, like, okay, first of all, one of the coaches had already got it before the season started, an older guy. So he had experience of getting it and tells his story of what it was like having it. Then another player, their whole family got it and they interview them, they tell their whole story, how they got it, what it was that came from their nanny and then the whole family got it and they, who was really sick out of them. Then we recovered and we're fine. And so yeah, so it's all centered around that right now. And I feel like I'm on episode three and I can't get out of it. I'm like, dude, I just want to watch the game, dude. Oh man. I want to watch sports. Well, I'm going to change the subject real quick and just talk about Adam's balls again. Well, I tell you what, I tell you what, those balls. Oh man, let me tell you. They're delicious, right? They are very, very good. Okay, so now- The chocolate ones are better. I would say, so Jerry's made three now. She's made one with the vanilla protein, one with the chocolate protein and then one with the vanilla protein but with the peanut butter chips. I like the peanut butter chips. So I like the chocolate and chocolate. Do you really? Which is not normal for men. I normally don't like chocolate and chocolate but the chocolate on chocolate chip balls are the best. They're no bake. Yeah, no. These are no bake you can find. So this is a recipe you can find it on our Organifai's Instagram page or their website and they use their protein and the ingredients are all very good, very clean. Macros are good. No bake. You put them in the freezer or the fridge and then you- You're so good, Cole. Yeah, they're excellent. Hey, remember how we were talking about we had a conversation around college, higher education, is it worth the cost to get a degree or not and all that stuff So I found an article, actually someone sent me this article because of that episode and the title of it is These are the most regretted college majors and then they also have the least regretted college majors. Oh, that's interesting. Interesting, right? So as of right now, here are some of the five most regretted Get ready to trigger. College majors. Okay. Ornamental horticulture. Yeah. No, number one, English and foreign language majors. Is most regrettable? Number one, because people say it's impractical, has limited job opportunities. You could basically be a teacher. Another one said is biological and physical sciences. Now I thought that's interesting, but the reason why they say is because that there's not much of a benefit in getting an advanced degree in addition to their bachelor's. So it's like bachelor, but then after that, not much to do. Education, believe it or not, degree in education because they said there were limited job opportunities. Social sciences and law, again, two general and practical communications. Two general. And then the five least regretted majors. Number one, you guys want to guess? So many doctor. Computer science and mathematics. Yeah, engineering. Yeah, they said that they loved it. Business, they said it was really good. Yeah, business is great. Engineering in general, really good. Health administration and assisting. And then health sciences and technologies. So as of right now, those are the majors that most people- So doctor, engineer, what else did you, what was- Computer science. No, no, law or like lawyer. No, the law was actually one of the more regrett- one of the more regrettable ones. I think if you get a law degree, but you don't go and get the, you know, become a lawyer. Well, yeah, then you're, yeah. This is too hard. Yeah, then what- It sucks. Yeah, or like me. You're like, well, I gotta read all those books. I know, like it's so boring. I'll get the degree, but I don't want to read. Yeah, don't worry. I just want the little piece of paper that says I'm good. Hey, I read a funny article the other day. So, you know Google Maps, how you can go on there, type in an address, get the street view. Yeah. And kind of see what's going on. Yeah. Okay, you guys ever look at your house and see this? Yeah, sometimes. So I guess some guy went on there and I think he looked up his address and saw some strange car in his driveway and his wife outside, some guy caught her cheating, dude. On Google Maps, dude. With Google Maps. No way. Caught her cheating. Now, how did that work? Cause it's not real time. Not real time, but it's relatively recent. Cause that's even worse, right? He's just happened to be checking it one day. It wasn't even when she was actually the day she's cheated. She cheated like fucking five months ago and that's cause it's an old image. Yeah, I don't know how old it was, it's pretty old. I know, or at least when I looked it up and I checked my house, like I remember seeing a car parked in like the driveway or whatever, I'm like, oh, that was like months ago. Like that pixelated street view. Yeah, it's definitely not like up to date. No, he saw there was a picture of her with this man and they were like kind of, the way they were standing with each other apparently was like, he's like, something's going on. That's not me. Yeah. I don't drive that. Hey, that's Sean. Yeah. That was my home inspector. Why is he grabbing her? Anyway, so he caught her cheating through Google Maps. Oh. I know. What a way to find out. Yeah. First question is from Jamilia144. What is the most chronically under-trained muscle group for most people? Daffs. No, I'm just kidding. Just kidding. Under-trained muscle group for most people. Back. I would say properly. I was kind of thinking wrong, boys. Properly, core, properly. Okay, yeah, there you go. You know, core, a lot of people work out their core and I was saying quotations because they want their abs to look good, but very rarely do you run into anybody who does proper core work. I mean, here's a good example, right? When Physioball, Physioball started becoming a staple in the gym. I would see people in the gyms that I would manage do a million Physioball crunches and I never saw anybody do them properly. In fact, it was one of the most effective ways I sold personal training. I'd walk up to them and I'd be like, oh, how many reps can you do? And people are always excited to tell you that they could do 50. I'd be like, oh, that's, wow, you could do 50 of them? And they're rolling their hips up and like folding their body forward. Oh yeah, and so I'd say, okay, can I show, let me see if you can, can you do them a different way? Let me show you. And then I would show them how to do it properly and they do like five. They're like, oh my God, I feel that totally different. And it's because most people don't work their core properly because most people, even if we just talk about abs, for example, all they know is if you fold the body in half through working your abs, that's what they think. They don't realize that folding the body in half can mean hip flexors and not abs. So I would show people proper ways to activate and work parts of the core and then it would blow them away. So that's, I'd say, probably one of them. I agree with that, although I would make the case for back too though. I really, because first of all, I don't think anybody trains the posterior chain enough, I mean, or for the most part, like at least 90 plus percent of the population, just because we're so anteriorly driven, we do everything in front of us. You just don't do anything with your hands behind you. You just have to ask for snacks from your kids. Yeah, that's right, right? Or wipe your butt, right? That's about it. Everything else is done in front of you most of the time and so even if you do exercise and train, we're still so driven in front of us, so rounded forward. So, and then when you do see somebody who trains and works out and they try and train their back, most people don't know how to engage their back. Most people pull with their arms and they still have the rolled forward shoulders when they row. I mean, at least in my experience in most of the clients that I helped, if I sat somebody, even if you had some experience in lifting and I sat you into a seated row or a bent over row and I asked you to do it, almost all of them didn't know how to retract the shoulder. They were always still in this protracted. They could look at somebody else doing a seated row and sit up tall and straight and they could pull in with their arms and try and emulate what they saw, but they didn't know how to really engage the back which is very common because if you're always doing everything in front of you and you're never doing nothing back there, it's hard to work that. So, I think the back, the posterior chain in general is just maybe hamstrings you, you can make a good case for it too. It's probably the most underdeveloped or chronically under-trained. Yeah, I could make it an argument for rotators, you know, shoulders, mainly because I think that even if you're a gym-minded person, like you're constantly lifting weights and you're doing it all like in the sagittal plane, you're not really working outside of that and you're not really expressing rotation as it should which then inevitably leads to problems, you know in the shoulder, even if you are working on yourself like you neglect that aspect of function that that joint can provide. So, I think that's why I'm always like bringing that up constantly just because I just don't see it unless it's very intentionally programmed in there to where somebody's gonna put that in cause nothing like any of the machines that you're gonna find are really gonna have that available for that. Now, that being said, I mean, this is the type of stuff and I like questions like this because these are the types of things that we would think about when we were putting together programs. And when we originally first did the first three and then we didn't have all the other ones like they were designed for you to go through all of them consecutively. You're supposed to go through maps anabolic, maps performance and maps aesthetic. It's basically nine months of programming and in there, we address all these things. There's a major component in there to post your chain. There's a major component to unilateral movement, rotational exercises, ab workout. There's a component to all these things that we think that the majority of people are chronically under training to make sure that they address that if you go through all that. So if you're a listener and you're coming in for the first time, this is the way they were designed for most people to follow that anabolic performance that I state. Does that mean you have to do that? You can't start with another program or go different? No, of course not. But when we wrote them, we wrote them with these types of thoughts into consideration. We thought about the average person, what do they neglect the most and what do they need to be doing or what mistakes are they most likely to make when putting together a program or starting their training and then how do we address that in a program? Yeah, I know there's a couple of things too to consider just because modern lifestyle now involves a lot of sitting and a lot of looking at screens and a lot of typing. I remember seeing this transition working in gyms where more and more people were coming in with forward head neck issues and wrist issues. Not from overuse, but rather from underuse. And I've fixed and helped a lot of people solve things like the wrist issues or their, what's it called when you have wrist issues when you work on computers all the time? Carpal tunnel. There you go, carpal tunnel syndrome because their hands were overstressed in one direction, not strengthened another and very weak. And so believe it or not, something that I never thought I would do or didn't consider when I first became a trainer that actually became important was training people's hands and wrists. I would do a lot of hand and wrist training with people to solve some of these issues. People have chronically weak hands and chronic dysfunction in the way the wrists and hands operate because of what we do all day long and how we don't strengthen them. So those are two other areas you might want to consider. Next question is from Phoebes Krake. I just did a week of steep mountain trekking and realized I have under-trained endurance. I currently lift weights three to six days a week. How do I program endurance or uphill trekking training into my workouts without sacrificing muscle growth? Is this possible? So one of the best ways I can illustrate kind of what I'm about to communicate is like when you play a video game and you pick your character. So you got the character on the screen and then next to the character there's all these attributes, right? It's like strength, speed, strength, you know, whatever, stamina, you know, flexibility, resilience. And you can adjust each one, but if you move one more over to make it stronger, you take away from the other ones. That kind of represents your body's physical performance. The more endurance I train for, the less maximal strength I'm gonna have, okay? So those tend to be, although they can help each other, sometimes they can be inversely related, especially when you start to look for high levels of performance. So if you're like really into resistance training and it's all about muscle and strength, a little bit of endurance is gonna help you. You need to have enough endurance to be able to perform your resistance training exercises. But if you start to train for more endurance, or endurance that's gonna give you stamina for endurance related activities like trekking or cycling or running, you're probably going to take away a little bit of your ability to gain strength and muscle. And there's nothing wrong with that. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that. It's whatever you prefer. Some people like to be extreme in one and not in the other. There's power lifters that like to be super, super strong, could care less about being able to run a mile or hike 15 miles or whatever. And then there's the opposite. There's people that look, they just wanna be able to cycle for 50 miles and really don't care about squatting 300 pounds. And then there's people who like to be somewhere in the middle or a mix of them. You have to decide for yourself what's gonna give you the best quality of life, what do you enjoy and train accordingly. Now, based off of what you said, you lift weights three to six days a week. If you lift weights three days a week, then two days a week of trekking is fine. If you want to do more stamina, then I would go three days of trekking, two days of weights or four days of trekking, one day of weights. Then that's mostly endurance, right? So that's kind of how you wanna measure it out. Six days a week of resistance training, you're not gonna have much room to really train lots of stamina endurance. You might run the risk of overdoing it if you do that. But at the end of the day, you do have to assess like how much you're willing to sacrifice in those two different pursuits because they are different. And like you highlighted, it's one of those things where I know people wanna have it all. And I wanna be super lean, but I wanna be humongous and jacked, like all at the same time. And I wanna be able to sprint a one minute mile, whatever, like whatever the- Wow. Yeah, it's really fast. That was a great example. You know, there's some people out there that might want that. You know, that'd be pretty cool, actually. But yeah, but the thing is, like you're always gonna be sacrificing on one end of the spectrum versus the other in order to get closer to the specific goal that you have. So you just have to be a little more specific with your goal and understand, you know, what that outcome looks like. I really think it's our own insecurities about our body and stuff that keeps us from committing one way or the other. Yeah, we're enjoying it. Yeah, right, so I love this. Like, I don't know, out of the three of us, I probably move the most out of modalities, I think, out of us. Man, we all do it pretty good, but I think I do this a lot. You get commitment issues. It's better. No, I just like to, I'm just better at this, you know? So no, what I mean by that is like, you'll see my body change a lot because of what I'm focused on. And, you know, whether it was swimming for a while or mobility or chasing salve for PRs or getting on a stage and presenting my physique, I mean, all four of those are extremely different goals. And if I put a lot of energy in any of them, they take away from the other three. And so, and instead of like kind of, you know, putting one foot in and one foot out in each one of them, I just fully commit. Like, I'm gonna be the mobility guy. And part of being the mobility guy is, I don't give two shits what I look like on stage or if Sal can out-deadlift me. That's not part of the goal. The goal is I want to become the most mobile version of myself. And so my commitment goes all there. And do I know that doing that, I'm gonna not look as aesthetic as I did as a bodybuilder or be as strong as I was trying to chase Sal with deadlifts? Of course, but that's not the goal right now. And what I know is that overall, when you look at your training journey, not just the small focus for six months or a year or whatever you decide to do it, over the total journey, they all really, really help each other and it's all gonna compliment my overall fitness. It's not like I can't go after, like I can't, I can be a mobility guy, like hardcore for a whole year, lose a bunch of that, you know, sexy muscle, lose a bunch of that strength. And then all of a sudden after that year, go, all right, now I wanna go after being strong as hell again. And it'll actually really benefit me. I'll probably feel a lot better. I may even reach a new PR going back to it. It's okay. And it's, and I think you're better off when you set new goals like this is committing to it. It's just a healthy relationship with your body and with exercise. You're having fun with it really is what it's all about. Whatever that means for you. I think that's the important message here. Whatever it means to you, have fun with it and enjoy it because what you're looking at is a lifetime of fitness. You know, you made a great point, Adam, you said, don't look at it like such a short period. Totally true. You know, if you're lucky and blessed, you're gonna live a long life. And in that long life or part of living a long life is being active, taking care of your body. Stop looking at things so narrow-minded. Will you lose a little bit of strength and muscle if you start to focus on trekking? Maybe, probably a little bit, but guess what? You'll get better at trekking. You'll enjoy something else. And you're gonna be less healthy. Right. You know what I'm saying? Like going after all these different pursuits are gonna make you healthier by changing it up. You'll be healthier than the person who's always trying to do the same thing and fighting with their body. Like a little bit of this, a little bit of that, but I'm not afraid to go, I'm too afraid to go too far in this direction in fear. I might lose a little muscle or lose a little bit of strength. It's okay. Like overall, you're being active and you're seeking novelty and you're changing things up and you're challenging your body. These are all good stresses that you're adding and you're only gonna get better overall. And it's only going to improve your lifelong journey of fitness. Makes life more interesting. Right. Next question is from BJ Sayer. What actually constitutes processed foods? Is protein powder processed? How about protein bars or yogurt? Where do you draw the line? Okay, so great question. I actually got a huge debate once in my... All nuance. In my wellness studio. So back in the day, I had a wellness studio and there were other trainers in there and we had massage therapists, acupuncturists and I had some nutrition people and physical therapists and essentially the goal was you come in here and you kind of one stop shop type of deal. But we had this wonderful environment because it was a small facility. I would be in there training a client and there might be four other trainers with clients. We're all doing our own thing but we would have all these cross discussions across the gym and these wonderful debates and everybody was super open and it was really, really fun. And I would always rant and rave about avoiding processed foods. Just like I do on the podcast, right? I would talk about how processed foods encourage overeating, how they tend to promote poor health and all that stuff. Anyway, one of my other trainers' clients worked in the food industry. He actually owned a plant that got prunes or got plums, dried them, turned them into prunes and then sold them and packaged them. And I remember I was talking about processed foods, telling my client, avoid heavily processed foods. They promote overeating, they do this and that and then he pipes up and he goes, oh yeah, name one food that isn't processed. I'm like, what do you mean by that? And he goes, a steak is processed. They have to cut it out, they have to put it in the package, they have to make sure that it doesn't have, that there's certain cuts this and that. He goes, I process food, he goes, I sell prunes but the prunes have to go in the package, you have to process them, has to go through the plant. And I said, okay, fair enough, fair enough. 99% of the food that you're gonna eat unless you grow it yourself. Actually, in fact, even if you grow it, there's a, you have to process it somewhat, you gotta pick it out of the ground, wash it, cut certain parts off, that's all considered processing. So let's get a little bit more specific. I've heard the same argument for GMO, but keep going. Yeah, so let's get a little bit more specific. Okay, when we talk about processed foods, what we're talking about are foods that typically have more than one or two or three ingredients that come in a box, they come in a wrapper, it's not a steak. When you look at a steak, the ingredients are steak. When I look at a banana, the ingredients are banana, but if I look at banana-flavored candy or some meat-flavored whatever or meat product like sausage, then you see all these different ingredients and this whole process that is designed to make the food as palatable as possible. Most of the money that goes into heavily processed foods, that's why I don't say processed anymore, I don't say heavily processed food, goes into dramatically increasing the palatability of the food. Now, why can that be a bad thing? It can be a bad thing because that makes us overeat. We now finally have studies to support this. On average, people eat 500 more calories a day for meeting heavily processed food. That's pounds of body fat a month on your body. That's not a little bit. 500 calories is not a small bump and it's consistent across all the studies. They're double-blind, they're crossover studies, they're controlled, they're very, very good. I've experienced it with clients, so that's the thing. Now, protein powder is extremely processed, okay? You're eating protein that came from what? I don't know, whey, plants, now it tastes like chocolate cake. Yeah, of course it's heavily processed. Now, here's a deal, use it for what it's good for. I didn't get enough protein in my diet today, it's convenient. It doesn't come with fat and carbs, so I can hit my calories. Here I go, I'll take this protein shake. But if all you did was take protein shakes and make foods out of protein, like we talked about the peanut butter balls and protein bars, you probably would also be overeating. You probably would find yourself having a tendency to overeat because those foods are also designed to be hyper-palatable. Now, I'm not gonna put them in the same categories like potato chips and that kind of stuff because part of their goal is to be high protein and somewhat healthy, so they have some limitations. But yes, those are considered processed. Minimally processed foods, yogurt, you can get minimally processed yogurt plain. It doesn't have a whole slew of ingredients. Listen, listen, listen. I mean, we can start going down, yeah, listen, Linda. It's going down this rabbit hole. I got somebody who DM me after one of my question things that I do on my Instagram story and somebody asked about Magic Spoon and so Magic Spoon came up and they're like, you know, I thought you guys are anti-processed foods. And I'm like, what the fuck does that mean? Anti-processed foods, like there's not a day that goes by that I don't have something that is somewhat processed to your point. Everything is, but my goal always is to try and eat as much whole foods as I possibly can and minimize how much things I ingest that are processed. It's just that simple. It's not that complicated. It's not that complicated and we're not drawing a line in the sand of these are all good foods or these are all bad foods. It's understanding that foods are engineered to make you wanna eat tons of them. Listen, we're sponsored by lots of brands like protein powders and cereals that are processed foods. If you found yourself, if you called me up and you said you're a client of mine and you said, Adam, I can't stop eating this Magic Spoon. I'm eating four boxes a day. Should I keep eating it? Cause it's healthy and it's good for me. Just use the mind pump code. Yeah. No. No, I would say no. Absolutely not. If you're abusing it, you know, just like you could abuse the protein powder, then we have an issue. And if I have a choice as your trainer, if you said, Hey, Adam, I'm thinking about sitting down and having six ounces of steak with some white rice and a cup of broccoli. Or I was thinking about pouring a bowl of Magic Spoon. What would you rather me do? The fuck do you think I'm gonna say? I'm gonna tell the person I'd much rather them eat that meat. But at the same time, if they weren't gonna get up and make themselves steak rice and broccoli and they were craving something sweet and they're watching TV and they were thinking about getting up and go eat in a box of cookies. And instead they go grab a bowl of Magic Spoon. I would much rather see that. So it's really just the awareness of what you're doing and be aware that when the more process it is, the more palatable it's probably going to be and the more susceptible you're going to be to over consuming. And it's your job to be disciplined enough to be aware of that and know when you're abusing it. And I understand that a lot of people are not very aware. And so become aware of which ones are really processed. What is the difference between heavily processed foods and what is the difference between whole foods? Everybody's goal should be to get as much whole foods as possible. But I would be a total hypocrite if I drew a line in the sand and said these are bad foods and these are good foods and I only recommend whole foods because that's not how I live. And you also have to understand that processed foods also have a lot of value. One thing that processed foods do very well is they have long shelf life. There is a lot of value in that, especially when you're transporting food long distances, when people need to store food. If there's an emergency, it's extremely efficient. That's a great quality. Also, there's nothing wrong with enjoying hyper palatable food. That's a part of life. Just don't do it the wrong way. I mean, there's a difference between mindlessly eating food and eating food in a mindful way. It's very different. One looks like binging. The other one looks like enjoying every bite, savoring it and enjoying the company around you. Two very, very different things. Hyper palatable, heavily processed foods. If you're aware of the potential effects on you and if you try to minimize how many of them you consume, you're doing a pretty damn good job. If you're not aware, like most people and they make up a bulk of your nutrition, it's gonna be very difficult to eat the right amount of food and calories and to hit the right macros and even just eat in a healthy way. It's gonna be very, very difficult because those foods, if you're not aware, will make you overeat in a big way. Next question is from Cassidy Hoffman, official. Do you think that gluttony is a fair criticism of Christianity? Have you seen clients or others use faith to battle gluttony? Hey, Cassidy's official now, that's good news. Yeah, I'll go with the second part first, which is have you seen clients or others use faith to battle gluttony? Okay, so when you look at studies on diets or particular ways of eating, what you find is a very high failure rate. I think it's something like 80-something percent of people who go on a diet totally fail, even if their intentions are good. I wanna lose weight, I wanna improve my health. It often is those kinds of intentions and they fail very high. However, when people embark on a diet for moral or spiritual or faith-based reasons, okay, the success rate is very high. So let's talk about, let's step out of Christianity for a second, I'll address that, but let's step out there for a second. Let's look at vegans. Vegans who become vegans because they're trying to improve their health, high failure rate. Vegans who become vegans because they believe it's moral to not eat animals very high success rate. You look at the Seventh-day Adventist, this is a offset kind of Christian group that eats in a particular way based off their faith, or look at- Mormons, Mormons don't have soda, they don't have, yeah, a lot of things. Right, they're very, very good with it. Why? Because they're eating in a way that goes beyond themselves. This is the mental aspect of it, right? I'm not just doing this for me, I'm doing this for this moral reason that's bigger than myself, whether it be for the benefit of animals or maybe it be a God, my God, this is why I eat this way because God tells me to, or because my body's a temple, God says take care of my temple. Whatever it is, faith behind or moral reasons behind your choices, just from a psychological standpoint, is one of the most powerful ways people can make changes in their life. And look at the 12 steps to quitting drugs and alcohol. It's based on religion. I think it's a, in fact, I believe it's a Christian application and it has one of the higher success rates because of that morality that goes behind it. Now to the first part, I think gluttony is a fair criticism of Christianity. I was an atheist for a long time and one of my biggest criticisms of all religion was how imperfect people who followed religions were. The hypocrisy. I would walk into a church, my family was Catholic, so even though I was atheist, I'd go to family events and stuff and I'd sit in there just looking around. Oh, look at that person, they're over here doing their thing and I know that person and they're so not perfect and I know that person's so not perfect. That person's so not perfect. And once I flip that on myself, it's like going to the gym, imagine going to the gym, looking at all these people working out and then saying to yourself, look at all these fat people. They don't really believe in what they're doing. I know they eat bad, they're in here working. They're trying. The reality is like, man, there ain't a single perfect person in this world. Everybody struggles with everything and gluttony, as defined in Christianity, essentially is eating a lot of food or being greedy at the detriment of somebody who's needy. In other words, I'm eating so much food and I'm just stuffing myself, even though there's people around me that need food. That's kind of the definition of gluttony. Well, you know what? Look in the mirror. If you have more than one pair of shoes, one pair of pants, a shirt, if you have a roof, you are, I guess I could call you that kind of a person as well, right? Because there's so many people that could need those things. Nobody's perfect, so. Yeah, I mean, this is an interesting question because I mean, I did grow up a lot in the culture of church and I had my own fair share of criticisms about just the culture in general, just by observing a lot and being in the back and not feeling like I was ever in the community. I was in the community, I was out of the community because there was a lot of the judgmental stuff that came but it was hypocritical in some of these aspects, like even this one being mentioned, there was not a lot of emphasis on health practices and having healthy practices involved and wrapped into all these other parts of faith-based practices. And so I was always curious about why that wasn't highlighted as strongly as all these other values that they're promoting within church. But again, it was just a reflection of the culture where I was. So if I was in the Midwest and I'm in a church there where it was very much like the culture that I was around was into potlucking and into all these like, they showed love by providing food for everybody. And so this became like part of the thing where it was like, we all come here, we eat and we share and it's way that they show love. And so it's again, it's from an outside perspective, you could pick apart like sort of any organization that you can, you could find holes in something that I feel like, you know, like you're gonna find that in any organization that you're gonna look into that deeply. Well, the Bible addresses your both your points and Matthew seven, five, right? It's the pull the plank out of your own eye before you pull the sliver out of somebody else's. So it addresses that exact thing. And I think I struggled with this too, being a fitness professional in like my early 20s like seeing the same thing in the hypocrisy. I was still in my 20s going through a lot of anger, animosity towards my family and how I was raised. And so I had a lot of bitterness I was dealing with and I judged the same way. I looked at these people and thought, now they talk about all these other things that they're trying to focus on and be good. And yet here they are poisoning their body and that's considered one of the seven deadly sins and yada, yada, yada. I also think that we are in the middle of a kind of shift because there is that starting to happen now. Like I don't know how familiar you guys are with churches and Christianity and other religions too are starting to follow suit. This is relatively new when you compare to religion. A hundred years ago, religions weren't having to speak to gluttony very much. There was a scarcity of food. Not a lot of people were abusing this. So we, in our lifetime, we have seen a major shift. I mean, processed foods have really hit the scene just in the last 20 to 30 years. This hasn't been something very long that people have been, obesity is like skyrocketed just recently. That's a great point. When you compare it to religion that's been taught for hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of years, this is something that, this is a new battle and you are seeing some churches and some religions starting to address it. And I just don't think they ever had to. Yeah, not to mention the misinformation they were getting from the standards for nutrition given from the government. It's like, where do you get the information that's sought? Like we weren't, the general public wasn't even receiving it. Well, I'll say this, okay. Greed is always been with people. It's always been a problem. Doesn't matter how much or little you have or what system of government you have, whatever. Greedy people exist. Greed is, it's something that we all need to contend with. All of us suffer from some degree of it. Of course, especially if you live in this country, I can very easily make the case that you're greedy comparing you to somebody else, somewhere else in the world. Now the religions, here's the deal, okay. Fitness has been something I've been studying for a long time. Religion, I've learned it mainly because I started out as an atheist, now it's a little different. And here's what I found that was very interesting. In all the major religions, they all talk about greed and fasting in some way, shape, or form is embedded in every single religion. Fasting was a way for these religions to teach people or themselves how to be without. How to abstain. How to detach, how to abstain. So they have been having some of these conversations about gluttony and greed. That's been around for a very long time. But Adam makes an excellent point. We haven't had, like obesity really hasn't been, if you look at the whole history of the church, thousands of years. It's the last, what, 50? That we're dealing with obesity? Yeah, it's relatively new. So I think it's fair to criticize anybody's practice so long as you do it objectively with reason. But I don't think it's fair to isolate it or to one specific practice. I don't think it's a Christian thing or a Judaism thing or Islamic thing or Buddhist thing. It's a human thing. We deal with it all the time. It is a part of human nature to take more than you need and to overindulge. It's not just with food. It happens with technology. It happens with sex. It happens with drugs. It happens with money. It happens with attention from other people. It's just a human trait that we're always gonna need to contend with. And I do think it's important that you become aware of it because happiness, that I'm starting to learn now as I get older is on the other side of that. Happiness comes from detachment, not from attachment. Look, Mind Pump is recorded on video as well as audio. Come check us out, Mind Pump podcast on YouTube. You can also find all of us on Instagram. By the way, Doug has an Instagram page. He does a lot of the behind the scenes stuff. So if you wanna learn about podcasting, you wanna see how the show is being made, follow Doug at Mind Pump Doug on Instagram. Then if you wanna find your hosts, you can find Justin at Mind Pump Justin, me at Mind Pump Sal and Adam at Mind Pump Adam. The number one goal with mobility training is to improve your coordination and connection to range of emotion, okay? The goal is not to build muscle. The goal is not necessarily to get crazy strength gains. Now, more mobility leads to building more muscle and more strength gains, but the goal of mobility training is not.