 This is one of those subjects where people have varying opinions, obviously. Now, is it a reason for us to have a falling out, you can't come to my house, you're not my friends, you're not saved, you're not a Christian, you're a heretic? No, now, do I think it's important? Well, sure. Everything in the Bible is important. It's written and given to us for a particular reason. Do I think this has some sort of important value as well, even salvifically? Well, yes, I do as that. Because I believe that what we're gonna talk about has a strong emphasis towards Israel and their salvation. We're gonna see that a little bit, does that mean that if you believe differently that means you're not saved? No, but I do believe that this is to be used evangelistically, the truth, towards Israel to bring her back to her Messiah. Now, that being stated, I want to deal with this whole issue of the end times, dealing with the tribulation, dealing with the 70 weeks and so forth. I wanna deal with all of that from where? Well, I always say if you wanna find a good place to start when dealing with the end times, where is a good place? Well, I believe the best place to start with the end times is in the beginning or as close to the beginning as possible. Does that mean at the very beginning that there's indication as to what's gonna happen? No, not necessarily, but let's recall a couple of things. One, mankind is disobedient. That shouldn't come as any surprise. Israel was a disobedient nation. However, it was not God's intention to save them because of something innate or special about them. That was never God's point to do so because of that. But because of his promise, his covenants with Abraham, obviously his sons Isaac and Jacob. But mankind is not good nor was Israel. Now, if we're going to address this issue of the tribulation and really any facets of the tribulation, anything I'm dealing with tribulation, you have to at some point in time ask the question why? Unfortunately, many people who deal with the tribulation, who cover it, who cover end times, never broke the question of why? Now, we do that with other things. We do that when it comes to certain spiritual gifts. Tongues, for example, why are you speaking in tongues? Why are you being slain in the spirit? Why this? Why that? What about why is there going to be a need for a tribulation? Remember, also of note, when we talk about end time prophecies and end time passages, and I say that we should start in the beginning, really you look throughout the whole of scripture, we've got this misunderstanding for some reason that most of the end time prophecy and discussion takes place in revelation. It does not. Let me say that again, most end time discussion does not take place in revelation now. Revelation obviously is a book about the end times, but before revelation happens, there are a lot of books, a lot of writers, a lot of discussion that takes place about the end time. So, that being the case, as we move through scripture, it's important to remember that the tribulation is described with more detail. So in the beginning, we don't see as much description about what's going to happen in the end as we do as we get further on. This whole idea, this whole notion of progressive revelation God reveals more to us through His scriptures as we go. But we can see from the beginning of the Bible, we can already see one, a need for it. And then also what we can see in there is we can also see a bit of or a glimpse of God's character. As a matter of fact, early on we get a healthy dose of God's character, what He is trying to do. Now, there are those that might say that early on we can kind of get a glimpse of what God is trying to do or He at least broaches it, though not fully. For example, in Genesis 3.15, He says that He will, the seed of woman, obviously Jesus will crush the head of the serpent. Well, does God fully flesh that out for us there? No, but is that entailed in what He's gonna do? Well, sure. At the very end, all the things that need to be taken place, God ultimately is going to make a finality of Satan, crushing his head by doing what? By defeating death itself. So, now, does He go into detail on that? No, as a matter of fact, even in Genesis 12 and 15, we see some things that are being alluded to, but it didn't go that far into it. Even Genesis 49, when He says the scepter shall not pass from Judah, what does that mean? Well, does that have some sort of end time ramifications? It absolutely does, but they don't know so, just like in the garden, no one fully knew what was being spoken of. So now, I said that we do get an understanding of God's character early on. We get to see how God is, how He performs, how He relates. So here's a question while I get something out of my eye. How have we seen God early on? Here's a question, early on, and even throughout scripture treat righteousness. How has God, from the beginning on, how has He treated those that are righteous, those that are in right standing? Not necessarily righteous in and of themselves, but are in right standing. How has God treated them? Has He not rewarded them, or has He also punished them as well? Has God treated the righteous the same as the unrighteous? Does God tend to punish the righteous right along with the unrighteous? We don't see that in scriptures. As a matter of fact, we see that God does not punish the righteous with the unrighteous, which is why He calls us to be righteous. We see a God who does not treat the righteous the same as the unrighteous. We see a God who treats those who love Him, but Godly with those who are ungod, who don't love Him, we see that them being treated differently. Excuse me. That's the whole point of Him calling us to separate and beat it from the world. We see how He's treated the righteous versus, matter of fact, in the whole discourse that Abram is having with God as in relation to what he's going to do with Sodom and Gomorrah, will you destroy me if there's 50 righteous and on the way down? Excuse me. Let me drink some water or some coffee. I've been having an issue throat all day. Excuse me. We see various times where the unrighteous is going to be punished and God would deliver the righteous out of them. We're going to deal more with that in a second because I think this is important in determining what is the point, what is the purpose of the tribulation. When you see God, and this is a question that you've got to ask yourself a question about. Because if God is this way, it should come as no surprise if this is how God was in Genesis, if this is how God was in Exodus, however God was, it should come to no surprise that if He is not going to punish the righteous with the unrighteous, well then it might make sense that He won't do the same thing with the tribulation. Remember, we're talking about a God who does not change. And so if He's a God who does not change, well then it probably should come to no surprise that He probably will not. I say definitely will not punish the righteous with the unrighteous. Because again, it goes back to the question, why? Why? And it boggles me and even bothers me when I hear people talk about the end times or talking about tribulation, talk about the lens, talk about all these different things, but they never say why, as though God is just doing stuff. As though God just has time to kill it. Let me just do something. Well, no, there's a reason why. As a matter of fact, think about it this way. When we see God bring about a problem, a calamity, when God punishes, when God punishes, He does so as far as I can tell, maybe you all can figure out, but as far as I can tell, there's two reasons why God punishes. I see someone says that the tribulation is not punishment. Well then what is it? If the tribulation is not punishment, well then what is it? As a matter of fact, we're gonna see exactly God calling it that. Now, I won't be able to go through all the scriptures. As a matter of fact, what I also won't be able to do is to give a lot of detail in revelation. We don't need to. I wanna get to up to revelation and then we'll talk about a couple of passages in revelation, but if you don't think the tribulation is punishment, well then I don't know what, I can't see how you come to that conclusion, but when God punishes, because certainly the tribulation is not a reward, because anyone think that the tribulation is a reward, is something wonderful. He says it'll be something like we have never seen or never will see, but there's two things why God would bring about some sort of punishment or tribulation upon somebody. There's only two reasons. One, for punishment's sake, obviously for punishment's sake or to kill. The second reason is to reconcile, is to bring a correction. The only two reasons why, but think about it, is the reason why you do it as a parent. As a parent or even society, we bring about punishment, we bring about punishment for two reasons, either for punitive's sake to punish the person, to teach them a lesson or just to make an example, to punish them, to kill them. The other reason is, now we don't do this as much as a society, but at least as parents we should, we do it so that we would bring about a correction, to bring them to righteousness, to bring about reconciliation. That's the only, those are the only two reasons why we see God doing these things in the Bible. If you know of a different reason, I'm all ears, I'd be willing to find out why in the world, why in the world he would do so and neither one of those two are the reasons. When he killed someone, he killed them to make a statement, to kill them, to get rid of them, or when he hurt someone, it was to bring about correction. Or if he killed others, it would also be to bring correction for those that were watching. I think that's very important. I really think that is very important. So now, getting back to the reason why, mankind has a wayward heart, without a question, including Israel. So, God's greatest desire, and these are things that we need to remember and keep in mind as we're running through these scriptures. God's greatest desire, I think it'd be okay to sum it up in these three ways. God's greatest desires to one, obviously be glorified. That takes precedent. That takes precedence. Secondly, I think it is to deal with sin or to eliminate sin. Third, be reconciled to his people. I think that's important. Now, I want to address this also. Someone says that Christians in China, or, and I've heard this before, that other places where there are other believers who are going through tribulation, but I can promise you this. Yes, comparatively speaking, tribulation or whatever we go through here is a lot less than whatever they're going through in Mexico or Guatemala or China or anyone else. But do we think it's biblical to say, to escape tribulation, to escape persecution, to escape God's wrath, come to America? Is that what's taught in the Bible? No, the entire world will suffer this. So, that being the case, God wants to be glorified, to deal with sin or eliminate it. Three, be reconciled to his people. I think that those three things would suffice. Now, you may say them differently, but I think those three things are what God is after. So, what's God's remedy for all of it? What's God's remedy that he would be glorified by us? What's God's remedy to deal with sin? And what's God's remedy to bring us closer to him? Well, it's the heart. And this is where we go ahead and jump into our scriptures. I've got, and when I tell you, I've got a bunch of scriptures. Some of them did not make the cut. Did not make the cut. Now, God says in Deuteronomy 10, 16, and I think this is on this one, make sure I'm on the right one. There it is. He says to circumcise your heart and stiffen your neck no longer in Deuteronomy 10, 16. So circumcise, now the command from God is for mankind to circumcise your heart. Fix your heart, get your heart right. Problem is, is that going to happen? Well, after telling them to do so, they absolutely do not do so. And so what does God say he is going to do? In Deuteronomy 30, let's start in verse, let's start in verse 36. I mean, verse 6. He says, moreover, the Lord your God will, he will, he will do it. God will circumcise your heart and the heart of your descendants to love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your heart. And with all your soul and with all, so that all you may live. Here's the question. When does God circumcise their heart? Notice, notice he says he will. He will do so. He will circumcise their hearts, but didn't say when. Clearly their hearts are not circumcised there. And we see other passages. I can't go into them now for the sake of time. But we see numerous other passages where he says that he will circumcise their heart or give them a new heart, put his spirit in their heart. And so that is a future looking incident. When is it going to happen? Well, there are some things are going to happen first. We're going to find out that the first thing is going to happen is after they've been brought back into the land. And we're going to see that it happens in kind of two ways. The first time they've brought back into the land, we see a partial touching of their heart, some Jews, but then he speaks even more so about them later God dealing with their heart. I can't get too much into it now, but be that as it may, it's important that God wants to deal with mankind's heart. Now, since God wants to be glorified, there's a problem when Israel, he makes his covenant with Israel and Israel rejects him, so to speak, or they will have other gods. They would make God jealous. And so what does God say in Deuteronomy? Let's go to 32 verse 16. He says they made him jealous with strange gods. So the Jews are making him jealous with strange gods. So what does he say? With abominations, they provoked him to anger. They sacrificed demons who were not God to gods. Whom they have not known, new gods, who came lately, whom your fathers did not dread. Let's go a little further down to verse 21. They have made me jealous with what is not God. They have provoked me to anger with their idols. So I will make them jealous with those who are not a people. Very important, guys, for what we're talking about. I will make them jealous with those who are not a people. I will provoke them to anger with a foolish nation. What is he speaking of? Well, here, even though the Jews haven't contemplated us, God has contemplated us as Gentiles. God has thought about us. And so God has stated that he is going to take a foolish nation of people who are not his people and make them his people. Hosea is the same thing. As a matter of fact, looking at the end times, two books that we don't think a lot about the end times that we absolutely should would be Hosea, as well as Joel. Matter of fact, even Obadiah. As a matter of fact, Jeremiah, as a matter of fact, Ezekiel. As a matter of fact, Malachi. Yeah, as a matter of fact, Isaiah. In other words, all throughout the Old Testament, we see what God's plan is one for Gentiles, but also to the Jews. He wants to bring them back. He has decided that he's going to do so by making them jealous, but just making them jealous, there's going to be more. That's the beginning stage. And so you need to recognize all the things that God said that He's going to do. All of these things play into it. All of these things are important. Now remember, so far, if we're in Deuteronomy and Leviticus, we have three named covenants that God has. And I say named covenants. Somebody may want to say the Adamic covenant might be, but it's not a named covenant in the Bible. But the three named covenants, we have the Noahic covenant. We have the Abrahamic covenant. We have the Mosaic or the Old covenant. God is not going to violate any of these. As a matter of fact, it's amazing how they walk in complete harmony with one another. How does the Old covenant walk in harmony with Abrahamic covenant? Well, without getting too much into it, go back and watch the video and see the misunderstanding or understanding covenants and see how all of these covenants kind of work together, leading up to the Davidic covenant and New Covenants and so forth. That being the case, God cannot violate nor would he even want to violate any of his promises, any of his prophecies. And so think about this. Everything has to fit neatly. Everything. So he's got to reconcile Israel, which is what he's promised to do. And I do mean Israel as a nation. I know there are those who want to say that Israel is no longer the Israel that God is concerned about, but there's a spiritual Israel. There's a problem with some passages that eliminate that. There's no way that it possibly even fits that there's a spiritual Israel that has taken the place of a physical Israel. As a matter of fact, God is going to reiterate the fact that he has plans for this physical Israel, for this physical land that he's made physically and literally to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob to give him this land. And we'll get to this issue about the land because we're going to see how this is how God moves Israel eventually, ultimately to coming back to him. And so he's got to one, reconcile Israel to he's got to bring in the Gentiles. So he's got to work in concert where he's dealing with the Jews and with the Gentiles, as well as fulfilling every prophecy. God must fulfill every... Think about this, though. It's not too difficult of a thing. For us, it might be, wow, how's this work? We get amazed when we see prophecy being fulfilled. But to God, it's just another day of work, so to speak. It's just him doing exactly what he said. Maybe because we don't keep our word. Maybe because we don't always know what, say what we mean and mean what we say. But God does. Remember, God is, we say, omnipotent, omnipresent, omniscient. Well, if God is omnipresent, he is everywhere. He's not just here in America, while at the same time he's in Africa, while at the same time he's in Europe, while at the same time he's in Antarctica. Yeah, he's there. He's that kind of omniscient. Yeah, not omniscient. He's that sort of omnipresent. But he's also omnipresent in the sense that he was way back then, and he's present, and he's in the future. All of those places at the same time pass present and future. And so for him to make a promise and declare it, it's not a big deal for him. It's not a big deal for him, because he's seen the beginning and the end. He knows what's going to happen. And so for us, all of these things that God is saying is going to happen, they all have to fit neatly. That being the case, this is why and how we get to the tribulation. This is why we have to get to, this is why we come into the tribulation. So now what I want to do is I want to leap forward to... I've got to click on... I've got to script on two different screens. So what I want to do is leap forward to Jeremiah's prophecy. So let's go to Jeremiah 30, and then we're going to go to Jeremiah 31. So Jeremiah 30, I'm sorry, let me click on this button. Let's start in verse 1, shall we? And so he talks about this Deliverance from Captivity Promise. Remember, by the way, let me put this on the screen. Remember, I gave you guys this timeline before. And so I want you all to look so when Jeremiah is making this promise or making these prophecies, remember he's making these prophecies to the Southern Kingdom and they are getting ready to though some have already gone there going into captivity. They're going to be exiled. Now, why are they going into exile? Very important as a matter of fact. Matter of fact, let's back up and let's deal with why they are going to the exile. God has given them or made a promise and said that if they obey then it's going to be a long one. Hopefully not too long, Robert. But God has made promises. If you do these things, remember the old covenant, the Mosaic Covenant is a conditional covenant. If you do this, then I'll do that. And even in the elements of the Abrahamic Covenant there are people that come with that. There's a land promise or element that comes with that. And then there is also there is also excuse me, a rulership or king or kingdom that comes with that. Tina asks is and I meant to answer that as a question earlier is Jeremiah only for the Jews or for us also? Both of us, but the direct application is for the Jews. We'll see that in a second, but is there something that we can glean? Is there a secondary application? Sure there is. As a matter of fact, there is a promise. There is a promise regarding us in Jeremiah but it's written directly to the Jews. So that being the case, let's go to Jeremiah 30. The word which came to Jeremiah from the Lord saying thus says the Lord, the God of Israel write all the words which I have spoken to you in a book. For behold, look what he says days and notice he says this is Yameen. So these are plural days, not a particular date but days are coming declares the Lord when I will restore the fortune of my people Israel and Judah. The Lord said I will also bring them back to the land that I gave them to their forefathers they shall possess it. Now these are the words that the Lord spoke concerning Judah. For thus says the Lord I have heard a sound of terror for those that would think that the tribulation is not punishment it's not something bad it's not a date at the park I have heard a sound of terror of dread and there is no place ask now and see. Look what he says, if a male can give birth no we're not talking about LGBTQ stuff and trans just know if a male can give birth why do I see them, why do I see every man with his hands on his loins as a woman in childbirth and why have all faces turned pale. Look what he says, alas for that great day for that day is great and there is none like it. So what he says, and there is none like it and it is a time of Jacob's distress but he will be saved from it. Who's distress, here's the question who's distress who's trouble is this, this is Jacob or Israel and then he says who's the he that will be saved from it Jacob, Israel, Israel will be saved from this distress look what he says though it shall come about on that day declares the Lord of hosts that I will break his yoke from off their neck and will tear their bonds and strangers will no longer make them their slaves now is this when he brings them back into the land in just a few years, no this is going a lot further so back into the land after their 70 year exile well then what's going to happen they're going to have more persecution so this can't be their immediate return by the way let's pause for a second remember again why they are in this 70 year exile God has given them Sabbaths or every 7 years they are to what have a Sabbath for the land so what do they do they violate this 70 times 70 of these 7s have been violated this is important to remember because it's going to come up so they have been exiled how many years for those Sabbaths 70 now there's time for them to get ready to come back and we're going to deal with that as well but right here he's talking about what's going to happen with them while they're going through this what he says though verse 9 well who's speaking of? he's obviously speaking of Jesus but did that ever happen? no not yet matter of fact not even now fear not oh Jacob my servant declares a lord and do not be dismayed oh Israel for behold I will save you from afar I will save you from afar and you're offspring from the land of their captivity and Jacob will return and be quiet and at ease and no one will make him afraid that clearly didn't happen once they returned from the exile for I am with you declares the Lord to save you for I will destroy completely I will destroy completely all the nations where I have scattered you has that happened yet? no think about this I want you guys to just pay attention to what the words are saying it's not that and I see someone accusing me of this these words weren't written just to take up space these words aren't here just because somebody GC thinks that I'm just no these words were written for you to learn from to hear from now it's for Israel notice what he is saying and then ask yourself has this ever happened you couldn't even say this has happened figuratively but I'm asking you has this ever happened literally no it's not even happened figuratively let's go back to it he says for I will destroy completely all the nations where I have scattered you that didn't happen only I will not destroy you completely notice the word completely which means not totally but I will chasing you justly and will by no means leave you unpunished the person that would say that the tribulation is not for punishment is not reading but I will chasing I tell you what you sign up to be chasing not me I don't want to be chasing but to chasing is punishment he says I will chasing you justly and will by no means leave you unpunished for thus as the Lord your wound is incurable and your injury is serious there is no one to plead your cause no healing for your sword no recovery for you all your lovers have forgotten you all the folks that you were friendly with and good with gone for I have wounded you with the wound of an enemy with the punishment of a cruel one because your iniquity is great and your sins are numerous I literally walked with you and showed you these miracles and what did you do you turned your back on me not only turned your back on me but you went after other gods but only because I remember my covenant my promise with Abraham with Isaac and James the only reason and to show I am a just God but also a merciful God and a loving and forgiving God why do you cry out over your injury your pain is incurable because your iniquity is great and your sins are numerous I have done I have done these things to you this is God saying this therefore all who devour you will be devoured so I will deal with them all who devour you I will devour them and all your adversaries every one of them will go into captivity has it happened no and those who plunder you will be plundered and all who pray upon you I will give for pray for I will restore you to health I will heal of you heal you of your wounds declares the Lord because they have called you an outcast saying it is Zion no one cares for her thus says the Lord behold I will restore the fortunes of the tents of Jacob and have compassion on his dwelling places and the city will be rebuilt on his ruin and the palaces will stand on his rightful place from them I will proceed and the voice of those who celebrate I will multiply them and they will not be diminished now question is has any of this happened if I ask you has any of these things that God has promised to do to them has it happened you couldn't think about it literally or figuratively as a matter of fact even if you want to say that well the new Israel which there is no such thing but if you want to say that the church is replaced them that hadn't even happened to us so why would God say this if he didn't mean it only you and me and those that we know would ever say something without any real meaning only you and I would say something without any intent of it coming to pass you and I do that but God is not a man who does not lie we're speaking of what God is saying not what Cory is saying not what Fred not what Bob is saying not what GC is saying not what anyone else is saying what God remember let me just say like they say in the streets put some respect on his name and the words that proceed from his mouth if he literally says it then it is going to come to pass so all of you that have come to conclusion so forth fine just listen maybe you'll see my point or maybe I'll see your point let's go to verse 20 let's drop down to verse 22 he says you shall be my people and I will be your God has that happened has that happened no behold the tempest of the Lord wrath has gone forth a sweeping tempest it will burst on the head of the wicked the fierce anger of the Lord will not turn back until he has performed until he has accomplished the intent of his heart in the latter days you will understand this maybe some of you just don't get this because it's not the latter days for you maybe you all don't get this some of you all don't get it because it's not the latter days GC I think you're confused because you don't hear what I'm saying but notice what he says God says it's on the screen the fierce anger of the Lord will not turn back when did that happen please if you want to say 70 AD we'll deal with 70 AD again we'll deal with 70 AD in just a little bit until he has performed his anger his wrath will not stop until he has performed until he has accomplished the intent of his heart what is his intent to bring Israel back again we have to address the why why is God going to do this now thus far conspicuously absent from who his wrath will be pointed at is the Gentile church or I'm sorry not the Gentile church is the church because the church is made up of Gentiles and Jews as we get to it but they're absent especially Gentiles we see who his focus is we understand who his focus is and so don't miss that guys don't act as though God shows up we get to Matthew, Mark, Luke and John forget about everything else that preceded it we do that sometimes forget about everything else that preceded because this is something I'm concerned about well okay fine you missed the whole thing you missed a big portion of it matter of fact I want to open up some scriptures that we hear and see if they make even more sense after I explain a few things now let's go to Jeremiah 31 Jeremiah 31 look what he says let's start in verse 29 he says in those days they will say again the fathers have eaten sour grapes and the children's teeth are set on edge but now he's speaking how it used to be that if a person committed a sin would be visited upon the father however what's going to happen now there's going to be a new covenant that will be made with Israel and in that way whatever the father has done the father will pay for it the sins will not be revisited upon the son now does that mean that consequences of the father won't show up on the son in other words the father doesn't pay bills the father has a pool work ethic will that affect his family his children the father goes to jail will that affect his family sure the father does drugs there's consequences for the actions but being held at the same standard of the sin that won't so he says but verse 30 but everyone will die for his own iniquity each man who eats the sour grapes his teeth will be set on edge now look what he says behold days are coming to clear as the Lord so now I think this is taking me spread out but wait a second let me just answer this person because Louise you're missing the point and this is important so I want to teach as much as I can I can't address all the comments but I happen to see this one because supposedly we are one body yet here you are separating the body no I'm not sir you're not paying attention this is the problem that we have where did I separate the body there's only one body the church he's not addressing the church who he wants to become part of the church Louise I need you to focus on the text don't come in with a preconceived notion about what do you think I'm doing I want you to because it's for your edification as well the church is anyone who has placed their faith in Christ be they you or Gentile if you were born in Africa if you were born in Australia whoever you are if you placed your faith in Christ you are part of the church Israel will not by and large he's dealing with those that won't are you with me all right and I want to clear that up because I think some people some people think that I'm saying what they heard someone else said no I'm saying what I'm saying and I want you guys to pay attention I want you to find the scripture that disputes what I'm saying so far I'm just working my way through I'm only talking about what God has said he's going to do with Israel if you think he's saying he's gonna do the same thing with the church well the church in Israel are two different things we're gonna find that when we especially when we get to Romans 9 10 11 Paul is clearly talking about two different groups those Israel the flesh and then those who have placed their faith in Christ so now let's go back to it he said behold days are coming when I will make a new covenant with who the house of Israel and with the house of Judah not like the covenant I made with which I've made with their fathers in that day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt by covenant which they broke not me they broke it although I was a husband to them and by the way guys listen to the word he says although I was a husband to them we're gonna I'm gonna show you something just a second I was a husband to them but this is the covenant which I will make with the house of Israel after those days after those days what days we're gonna see he says I will put my law within them and on their heart I will write it and I will be their God and they shall be my people here's my question everybody here is my question as now we still got a good ways to go 1, 2, 3, yeah there's about 15, 20 different maybe 30 maybe 25 more scriptures to go through so we're gonna move it we're gonna pick it up a little bit but here's my question has God written or put the law his law on Israel's heart no not just some Jews but all of them has God done so too legit to quit I'm not reading out from Darby Orscolfield matter of fact it would help you know I've never read Darby Orscolfield so this is what I'm talking about sometimes you guys you come to the table thinking about what someone else said I said before one of the worst things that has happened to the church it's a good thing also but also one of the worst things people go and read dead man's works more so than they've read the Bible now I've got a bunch of dead men over there but I don't spend nearly as much time in those matter of fact most of those tend to be more referenced than anything else I've never read any work by Darby never never I have a book over there somewhere by Darby and I've never opened it never heard now I've heard of this Orscolfield Bible never read it never read it I'm simply think what I'm doing too legit all I've done was read the Bible have I opened up any other text no I'm reading the Bible tell me not the conclusion that you disagree with but what I stated thus far you guys tell me what have I said thus far that's to be described and the reason why I'm saying this is the problem in the church we'll go and we'll get on anyone else we'll go and who's talking about anti-intellectualism do you accuse me of that have you ever seen me talk about it never mind that's not even worth a comment to respond to but the problem that we have today is we'll sit and talk about TDJs my tie these other people who use scripture out of context and aren't consistent with their don't even know what the word hermeneutic is but when we do it it's okay when we when we don't no I'm not getting distracted by the hermeneutics we get in all sorts of problems we get in all sorts of issues because we read it the way some founder of a doctrine or our church says so so what I want to do is let's look at this I'm just taking it I'm reading it the way that we read everything else so and there will be some that will say well Cory I'm not a dispensationalist I am not a dispensationalist but this hermeneutic works for me matter of fact it's the exact same hermeneutic that you use for everything else matter of fact it's the exact same hermeneutic that you guys use for 80 to 90% of the Bible you literally use the same hermeneutic that I use except for a few places but then give no reason for why you depart and spiritualize but that's something different so look what he says go back to it he says I will put my law in them and on their heart has that ever happened has he done so with Israel by and large well Cory but he's done it with a few people so this has been fulfilled well let's just see let's keep reading they will not teach I'm sorry I will put my law within them and on their heart I will write it and I will be their guide and they should be my people that hasn't happened with Israel and we know he's speaking about Israel because look what he's going to say they will not teach again each man his neighbor and each man his brother saying know the Lord for they will all know me from the least to the greatest of them who's the them Israel Israel declares the Lord for I will forgive their iniquity and their sin I will remember no more who's them Israel how do I know it's Israel as a nation look what he says thus says the Lord who gave who gives the sun for light by day and the fixed order of the moon and the stars for light by night who stirs up the sea so that it is waves roar the Lord of hoes is his name what he says here's how we know he's speaking about Israel as a whole if this fixed order departs from before me declares the Lord then the offspring of Israel will also cease from being a nation before me forever has this fixed order departed do we still have the sun the moon the waves the oceans we still have those so they will never depart and so Israel will the nation will never cease to be a nation before the Lord ever so he's focusing on Israel and he's making this point in Jeremiah 31 so why is Jeremiah 31 because Jeremiah is giving this prophecy now before he got to 31 this the new covenant he spoke about this terrible time this tribulation coming before him as a matter of fact let me do this let me copy and paste some passages on here because I want you guys to see let's see if this works there it is I want you to see some other passages that indicate this tribulation and who it's for to it Ezekiel 2034 down to let's go to 38 he says I will bring you out from these from the people and gather you from the lands where you are scattered with a mighty hand and with an outstretched arm and with wrath poured out so he's saying with this wrath poured out I will bring you together and I will bring you into the wilderness of the people and there I will enter into judgment with you face to face and I will enter into judgment with your fathers in the wilderness of the land of Egypt so I will enter into judgment with you declares the Lord I will make you pass under the rod and I will bring you into the bond of the covenant I will make you pass under the rod and bring you under or into the bond of the covenant I'm going to force you to do this and I will purge you from the rebels and those who transgress against me I will bring them out of the land I will not enter the land of Israel thus you will know that I am the Lord let's go to Ezekiel 22 Ezekiel 22 19 therefore thus says the Lord this is God speaking because all you have become dross that's not good, that's the waste therefore behold I am going to gather you into the midst of Jerusalem as they gather silver and bronze and iron and lead them into the furnace to blow fire on it in order to melt it therefore I will gather you in my anger and in my wrath who is he gathered in his anger and his wrath? Israel I will gather you and blow on you with fire of my wrath and you will be melted in the midst of it as silver is melted in the furnace so you will be melted in the midst of it and you will know that I the Lord have poured out my wrath on you let's continue how about what he says to Malachi let's go to Malachi 3 I am going to send my messenger and he will clear the way before me and the Lord whom you seek will suddenly come to his temple and the messenger of the covenant in whom you delight behold he is coming says the Lord of hosts but who can endure the day of his coming who can endure the day of his coming look what he says guys and who can stand when he appears for he is like a refiner's fire as a smelter and purifier of silver and he will purify the sons of Levi and refine them like gold and silver so that they may be present to the Lord offering in righteousness then the Lord of Judah and Jerusalem will be pleasing to the Lord as in the days of old as in former years look what he says I will draw near to you for judgment and I will be a swift witness against the sorcerers and against the adulterers and against those who swear falsely and against those who oppress the wage earners in his ways the widow and the orphan and those who turn aside the alien for I the Lord do not change therefore old sons of Jacob are not consumed notice what he just says now he's bringing this wrath but then he says I do not change therefore Jacob you will not be consumed I'm going to hold up on some of the other pastors like such as Obadi and so forth so it's clear at least thus far thus far Israel as a nation is going to suffer God's wrath and then he told us why they are going to suffer and he won't relent until until the intent of his heart until the intent of God's heart is fulfilled which is to bring Israel back to him now are you going to bring every last Jew back to him? No but as a nation they will there will be a lot of Jews that will die along the way there will be a lot of Jews that won't make it but overall as a nation he will bring them back to him that part if anyone disagrees with what I've read thus far I haven't gone to the New Testament yet but thus far does anyone does everyone I hope you all see the point of what he said so far is to say it what he is going to do and again I want to put this on the screen again because I think it's very I think it's vitally important because we read the Bible sometimes in the order that we have it not recognizing who these prophets are and what they're doing so if it's on the screen if any of you have not seen this this is these prophets recognize where they're prophesying at when they're prophesying who they are prophesying to because we're going to deal with two more prophets in a second we just dealt with Ezekiel Ezekiel prophesies during the exile y'all see that but also also we see Daniel who we're going to see in a second he prophesies during the exile now notice when I read Malachi this couldn't have been when they were returned back to Israel because Malachi gives a gruesome warning about what he's going to do with Israel but he's also going to save Israel but notice when Malachi is prophesying Malachi is prophesying during the restoration so they've been brought back to the land so now we've got Malachi we've seen what he prophesied we can't go through all of them even to over that now by the way Obadiah prophesies matter of fact let's put I want to put this on the screen let me put Obadiah on the screen because someone asked does any of this have anything to do with us well in this case he's prophesying Obadiah who is he a prophet to Obadiah just like Jonah just like Nahum they are not prophesying to Jews they're prophesying to Gentiles you guys with me so now let's look and see what Obadiah says he says let me hit the enter he says because just as you drink on my holy mountain all the nations will drink now he's speaking about Israel they will drink and swallow and become as if they had never existed look what he's prophesying about everybody but on Mount Zion there will be those who escape and it will be holy the house of Jacob will possess their possessions then the house of Jacob will be a fire and the house of Joseph a flame the house of Esau will be as stubble and they will set them on fire and consume them so that there will be no survivor of the house of Esau for the Lord has spoken so all of those people those nations this is where the Gentile nations come in who have come against Israel he is going to deal with them why is that important well if we go back I told you guys before if there's ever a passage to tattoo on your body there are two and three I will bless those who bless you and curse those who curse you and then also in you or through you all the nations or all the families of the world will be blessed so through you Abraham and Isaac and Jacob and then ultimately through Christ all the nations or different nations of the world of the earth families shall be blessed that's where we come in the picture but he didn't spend a whole lot on us because he's dealing with Israel it's like a father going to get his son who's just out there just acting up and he didn't just drag remember what he used to do back in the day a mother would come and drag the kid by the ear well this father would come and drag them and drag them through the ground back home that's what he is going to do so that being the case now by the way by the way before I go there let me also deal with what he's going to do some of the prophecies in Zechariah as well he says I will pour out on the house of David and on the inhabitants of Jerusalem so those that are there if you're there at this time the spirit of grace and of supplications they will look on me whom they have pierced this is vitally important whom they have pierced they will mourn for him as one mourns for an only son and they will weep bitterly over him like the bitter weeping over a first born in that day there will be great mourning in Jerusalem like the mourning of the Haddad Driman in the Plain of Medigo the land will mourn every family by itself the family of the house of David by itself and their wives they are going to he is going to cause these people to look on this is past tense at that point when he deals with their heart he will cause these people particularly the house of David as he says to look back on him whom they pierced so he will cause them at that time at that time to look back so he so what Zechariah by the way Zechariah is very important to this end time stuff Zechariah is saying I will look forward there will come a point in time where the house of David's Jews will come on him whom they pierced by the way so too does Isaiah bring this up when Isaiah says he uses past tense why? because they are going to look back and see this the only reason they are going to look back and see this is because God is going to do something with their heart are you guys with me now that being the case we also look at Zechariah 14 as well verse 14 verse 4 he says in that day this is also something that is going to happen on that day in that day this is a singular day his feet that Jesus' feet will stand on Mount Olive the Mount of Olives which is in his front of Jerusalem on the east and on the Mount of Olives will be split in the middle from east to west by a very large valley so that half of the mountain will move toward the north and the other half of the mountain toward the south can I ask you guys a question? has that happened? that has not happened when he does come back when he places his feet on that mountain which clearly means that was not 70 AD that mountain is going to be split in half that doesn't make any sense well it does if it is Jesus if it is God if Jesus sets his foot on that mountain well sure the mountain split in half is not a big deal it's not a big deal so now let's go ahead and I'll put this on the screen I want you all to take a look at this again look at this timeline because now we're going to look at what Daniel is saying so when Daniel is prophesying he's prophesying during the exile so that part is vitally important now let's go back this prophecy where am I at oh let me move forward in Daniel 924 in Daniel 924 we're going to see what Daniel is prophesying yeah that cat is outside the door notice what he says he says 70 weeks have been decreed for your people and your holy city so now Daniel is praying Daniel has prayed and so here comes the angel to tell him what is going to occur why have they been in exile for 70 years because they violated the 77s so 77s so the 7s are the the 7 instead of weeks it's the 7s it's the 7s so in this case 7 years so he says 77s have been prophesied to you so let's go back to it 77s or 70 weeks have been decreed for your people and this is clear to the people of Daniel it's pronouning himself fix which means it is for his people your people and your holy city to finish the transgression to make an end of sin to make atonement for aniquity to bring in everlasting righteousness to seal up vision and prophecy and to anoint the most holy place amen so again now I want to put this on the screen I want you to notice I won't be there too long but I want you guys to see what is going to happen when with these 70 weeks so all of these things have to take place let's go back to the scriptures he says 70 weeks have been prophesied notice each one of these things that are going to be or that's going to take place he says one to finish transgression to make an end of sin to make atonement for aniquity to bring in everlasting righteousness to seal up vision and prophecy and to anoint the most holy place so you are to know and discern that from the issuing of a decree to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until Messiah the prince there will be 70 weeks I mean I'm sorry 7 weeks or 7 7s and 62 weeks or 62 7s it will be built again with plaza and moat even in times of distress then after the 62 weeks the Messiah will be cut off couple things there is a big delineation a break between the first 69 and the last yes there's 7 and then the next 62 happened immediately after and so people will think that it's going to be in a consecutive successive order no it's just 7s that have been declared and by the way if we were to follow that logic well then that last 7 the 70th 7 well what happens then so let's go back to the past ask yourself have these things happen what will be accomplished in the 70 weeks 1. to finish transgression what does that mean well to put an end to it to put an end to transgression 2. to make an end of sin either this is finishing the thought of the previous or to punish for sin so in other words there will be no more sin and then 2. there will be a punishment for sin and then 3. atonement for iniquity this can only refer to Israel who as a nation had not had her sin atoned for by and large now again 4. bring in everlasting righteousness in right standing for how long forever 5. seal up vision and prophecy this is to fulfill every prophecy he said he would do regarding his covenant with Israel and the sixth thing anoint the most holy now the word place is not there so this can refer to the most holy can refer to either the place, the city, the temple or Jesus himself these are the things that have to happen the 70 weeks all of this remember there's a reason for bringing this up guys because we're talking about what's going to happen in the tribulation if the tribulation is 7 we're talking about a 7 year tribulation is it just possible is it just possible is it just possible that this last 7 this 70th 7 is the tribulation is that even remotely possible I hope you say yes the 70th 7 is without question the 7 year tribulation remember Jeremiah just said so in 30 Daniels bring this up as well as a matter of fact he even gives an accounting of the last half of the tribulation these 1290 days they're going to take place where the struggle is going to intensify now before I go there though let's finish reading verse 26 is important because it reads this way he says then then after 62 weeks so after the 69th week this is going to take place after the 69th week vitally important the Messiah will be cut off not during the 69 weeks or the 69 7s or in the first 483 years the Messiah will not be cut off but after year 483 after the 483rd year or the last 7 the 69th 7 after that then the Messiah is going to be cut off what else and have nothing and the people of the prince who is to come will destroy the city and the sanctuary in other words the people of the Gentiles whoever is leading them the people of the prince who is to come will destroy the city and the sanctuary that's where we can look at the temple being destroyed after this 69 7 then we will see Jesus being crucified then we will see the temple being destroyed we're going to get to that in just a second guys we're going to leave off it and then it says and its end will come with the flood even to the end there will be war desolations are determined so during that time after that we're going to see wars and desolations more atrocities that will happen 27 and he will make a firm covenant with the many for one week so after that we're going to see this covenant with some Gentile person that he's going to make a covenant with them any guesses how long oh by the way it's on the screen how long or when will he make this covenant for one week that last week that's left there's going to be a covenant made for that last 7 I hope I haven't lost you all yet we haven't gotten to the New Testament yet we haven't gotten to the church no one at this point knows of a church thus far we've just seen him prophesy what he's going to do with Israel and we even know why we know what's going to be the result of it we also have heard about these Gentiles being brought in now we don't know how exactly we just know these Gentiles are going to be used to make these Jews jealous and that he's going to call us Gentiles who are not a people to become a part of his people Jesus does go on to say that he'll take out of the two flocks and make them one we won't cover that but we do know what's going to happen that ultimately Jews and Gentiles will embrace Christ as Savior but what we're talking about right now because these Jews are extremely, as God has said stiff neck, hard-headed bad hearts so what is he going to do? after this there's going to be this covenant made for a period of seven years verse 27 he will make a firm covenant with the many for one week or for one seven but in the middle of the week, in the middle of the seven he will put a stop to sacrifice and grain offering and the one wing of the abomination abominations will come on who makes desolate even until a complete destruction one that is decreed is poured out on the one who makes desolate so in the middle of this covenant, well this is where Daniel goes on in Daniel 12 when he speaks about it, let's go to verse I think it's 5 then I, Daniel, looked and behold two others were standing, one on this bank and on the other river and one said to the man who was above the waters of the river how long will it be until the end of these wonders I heard the man dressed in linen this angel, look what he says knows what he says who was above the waters of the river as he raised his right hand and his left toward heaven and swore by him who lives forever that it would be for a time times and half a time ladies and gentlemen that's three and a half years what is three and a half years that is one half of seven he just read where he stated that this will happen in the middle of the week but in the middle of the week he will put a stop to sacrifice so it's going to intensify it's going to look pretty peaceful at the beginning of the seven year tribulation what tribulation? it's pretty good pretty easy but it's going to get worse and let's go back to it he says for time, time and half time and as soon as they finish shattering the powers of the holy people all these events will be completed now I won't go more into this but so far we see what's going to happen to Israel to these Jews even to the city even in the temple even to the temple that was destroyed in 70 AD we see all these things happening now I want to cover a couple things again all these things as we said before all of these things absolutely have to happen all of these now the question is have these things happened no they haven't no they haven't Israel still sins they have not been punished for their sins though atonement has been made they have not been atoned for Israel has not seen everlasting righteousness vision and prophecy has not been sealed up to fulfill it has not been completed just yet and the most holy either the holy of Christ that being Jesus himself or the holy place that hasn't been anointed just yet now I want to cover something real quick one the first 69 7 the first 69 a week it's all Israel there is no church some will make want to say that the first 69 the church is not there but in the next 7 the last 7 the church is there no it's not even deal with the church but I want to throw something at you and I want to make this or cause to help you with some of the other passages in the New Testament one have you noticed that when Jesus speaks in parables who is he speaking to he is not speaking in Gentiles and there is a reason for that let me give you this just Jewish tradition and I want to talk about a Jewish wedding I said before why there is a reason why he is using this term that I was a husband to you in Jewish culture at least then not so much now but then when a man becomes of age and he is going to marry what does he do he builds onto his father's house or onto his land he builds a house onto his father's house or he builds a room onto his father's house okay and the reason for that is because he is of marrying age because of that a bride is selected however they do not get married at that moment there is a waiting period how long the father determines when the father determines that the marriage the father is the one who says I don't know when but the father knows the father determines when the marriage is going to take place so the groom is getting ready he is preparing the room or the house the bride is getting ready the father is going to say when the wedding is going to occur and do you know how they know there is a trumpet blown for the groom to go get his bride he brings the bride back to the house and they stay in the room for how many days you guys care to take a guess how many days? 7 days so it should even add more understanding so when Jesus says in my father's house there are many mansions many rooms, many dwellings if I go to prepare a place for you then I'm coming back for you also the parable of these versions which comes interestingly enough in Matthew 25 we're going to go to Matthew 23 and 24 but the parable of these versions they must be prepared and waiting on alert when he comes back very important so when you start hearing some of these prophecies or some of these sayings that Jesus gives as well as some of these parables these parables have a Jewish overtone why? because he's speaking to Jews thank you Trina I appreciate that guys so that being the case let's jump forward have I put this over here? yeah I'll leave it right here no no I'm sorry I've got to go to a different screen now this is where I've got all of these different screens up and so I've got to make sure that I'm going to the right one now let's go to Jesus speaking now the question is going to be who as we're saying before who the tribulation is for and also why because if we know why then we know who it's for and again the tribulation is brought up to these to these Jews at least so far only Jews have heard about this tribulation now let's go to Matthew chapter 26 23 verse 36 I'm going to ask you guys a question Jesus makes this thing we'll start in 36 because I want to make a point off this word that's been used here truly I say to you all these things will come upon this generation and there's been this focus on this word this as though the word this only refers to a specific time well we don't even do that in English this is what's called this or that or these or those is called a demonstrative pronoun it's not focus on a time is focus on a subject is focus on something a thing that's what the this is referencing we're going to see this and make this point in just a little bit but then also generation does not only refer to a 20 or 30 or 40 year time period no generation the word that's used there also refers to a race a kind truly the word monogonase this kind the only one of his kind not the only one of his generation other passages that we'll see later on we'll talk about this about this generation so that this doesn't always refer to this at this very moment sometimes it does refer to this what I'm speaking of sometimes this doesn't refer to what you think I'm referring to maybe it refers to something bigger I'm speaking about a subject matter and this is what I'm referring to and that's what Jesus is getting I don't want to confuse you but Jesus is getting ready to tell us what the this is because the this in 36 it begins what he's talking about 36 and then we'll see at the end who is Jesus speaking to Jesus is having a conversation a matter of fact let's continue reading he said, Jerusalem, Jerusalem who kills the prophets and stone those who are sent to her how often I have wanted to gather your children together so he's speaking of no I'm not just a specialist no Ashley people could be asking the question how often I have wanted to gather your children together and she just sits under her wings and you were willing I'm sorry you were unwilling behold you're house is being left to you deathly so was he speaking of again, he's speaking of Jerusalem thank you, Jeff, I appreciate that he says for 39 for I say to you from now on you will not see me until you say blessed to see who comes speaking to. Who is he having this conversation with? I'll give you all a moment to figure this out. Who is Jesus? And by the way, I'm making better time than I thought I would. I'm making better time than I thought I would. But who is Jesus having this conversation with? I asked that question because I happened to notice that which is fine. Someone had a critique. They disagreed and made a statement. And a lot of the statements, they were confused. They were wrong. Who is Jesus having this conversation with? Who's he talking to? Well, some will say the Jews. Nope. Some will say the disciples. Nope. Before we go any further, let's go to Mark 13. Because remember, Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, they're writing. Some of the events they cover overlap. Mark 13. We can start in verse 1. As he was going out of the temple, one of the disciples said to him, Teacher, behold, what wonderful stones and what wonderful buildings. And Jesus said to him, Do you see these great buildings? So speaking about the same event, the same event. Not one of these stones will be left upon another, which will be torn down. As he was sitting on the mount, here it is of all of the temple, the Mount of Olives opposite the temple. Here are the people that Jesus was speaking to. Peter and James and John and Andrew were questioning him privately. So this conversation is with Peter and James and John and Andrew. It's not the Jews. It's not even all of the disciples. So when we talk about this, the question is going to be, if Jesus is referring to this generation, only four people hear this. Only four people hear when he says this generation. Thank you, Delano. I appreciate that. Only four people hear this. Because it's more applicable than just these certain people. By the way, in order for this to mean that particular generation at that time, some things have to happen. I'm going to show you in a second. So let's go back to Matthew 23. And he says, Jerusalem, Jerusalem, let's go down to verse 24, verse 24, verse 1. Jesus came out from the temple and was going away when his disciples came to him. Again, we know who these disciples are. These disciples are those four. And I agree, layman, the only reason I bring this up is because someone made a big point off it being all of the disciples or every no, because their conclusion was based off of who Jesus was speaking to. Well, if that's the case, then your conclusion is out of the window, because he's only speaking to four. And so the this that he tried to make be for all of Israel couldn't be because only four heard it anyway. And he said to them, Do you see not all these things? Truly, I say to you, not one stone will be here, left upon another, which will be torn down. Again, this was prophesied by Jeremiah and by Daniel, as he was sitting on the Mount of Olives. The disciples came in probably said, Tell us when will these things happen? Here it is. When will these things happen? What things and what will be the sign of your coming and the end of the age? Very important, because this is what these signs are going to be culminating. And they're going to lead up to Jesus answering said he didn't he didn't duck the question. I don't even know that he really spoke in really riddles, but he answers the question. He says, Jesus answered them and said, See to it that no one misleads you for many will come to my name. I'm going to try to read faster. For me will come to my name. I am the Christ, they will be saying and will and will mislead me. We see that today, don't we? You will be hearing of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not frightened for those things must take place. But that is not the end. The end of what? The end of the age. Because, because we're told when he comes back, when he does come back, the coming back that he's talking about, he is going to, as we saw before, as Zechariah said, he is going to place his foot on that very same mountain that he's speaking of right now. So for nation verse seven will rise against nation and kingdom against kingdom. And in various places, there will be famines and earthquakes. But all these things are merely the beginning of birth pains. Then they will deliver you to tribulation. Then they will deliver you to tribulation. Okay. And will kill you. Now my understanding is this is that last seven. And they will kill you and you will be hated by all nations because of my name. At that time, many nations will fall away. Now that has not happened. It hasn't happened yet. But anyway, at that time, many will fall away. Fall away from what? Interesting question. And we'll betray one another and hate one another. Many false prophets will arise and mislead many because lawlessness is increased. Most people's love will grow cold cold. But the one who endures to the end will be saved. This gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all the nations. And then the end will come. Let's keep, let's keep reading. Therefore, when you see the abomination desolation, which was spoken of through Daniel, remember, all he's doing is picking up where Daniel and already spoken prophesied, standing in the holy place. So this is why we probably say that that word that's there in to in Daniel nine, the holy, it doesn't say the word place, but this is probably why we say it. Why we put the word place there because Jesus says, standing in the holy place, let the reader understand. Then those who are in Judea must flee to the mountaintop. Whoever's on the house top must not go down to get the things out that are, I'm sorry, that are in the house. Whoever's in the field must not turn back and get his cloak. But woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days. But pray that your flight will not be in winter or on a Sabbath. For then there will be a great tribulation. Then there will be a great tribulation, such as not occurred since the beginning of the world until now nor ever will. Say what you want to say about 70 AD, it pales in comparison to even the Holocaust and other things. Unless those days have been cut short, no life would have been saved. But for the sake of the elect, those days will be cut short. Who are the elect that he's speaking of, by the way? Paul tells us who these elect are in Romans as well. Then if anyone says, you look, behold, here is the Christ, or there he is, do not believe him, for false Christ and false prophets will arise and will show great signs and wonders, so as to mislead people, if possible, even the elect. Behold, I have told you in advance, so if they say to you, behold, he is in the wilderness, do not go out, or behold, he is in the inner rooms, do not believe him. For just as lightning comes from east and flashes even in the west, so will the coming of the Son of Man be. Wherever the corpse is, there the vulture will gather. But immediately after the tribulation, which could not be 70 AD, in those days the sun will be darkened and the moon will not give its light. Now we've seen this before. If you look at the bottom of the screen, you can even see the references to this. We saw it in Ezekiel. We see it in Joel. Matter of fact, if you feel like it, go and read Joel chapter 2. We see a little bit of Joel spoken of in Acts. The only time we know about Joel chapter 2 is when in Acts 2.17 he speaks about this of what the prophet Joel was speaking of, about him pouring out his flesh on all people. You got to read before he gets to verse 28 and see what, listen, it's a bad story. It's a nightmare. It's a horror story, what Joel is prophesying of. But he also says, don't, but guess what guys, he's also going to pour his spirit out. Go and read Joel 2 when you get some time, all right? Now that being stated, the sun will be darkened and the moon will not give its light and the stars will fall from the sky. That has not happened yet. And the powers of the heavens will be shaken and the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn and they will see the Son of Man coming. Everybody's like, wow, what in the world? I'm sad I'm, yeah, that day everybody will see it. How do I know? Because it's all the tribe of the earth and he will send forth his angels with a great trumpet and they will gather together who? His elect, the four winds from the end of the sky to the other. So this is why at the end of this tribulation then comes this, I believe, this thousand-year period. So do I believe in a pre-tribulation rapture? I certainly do. I'll get there in a second, but let's continue. Now learn the parable of the fig tree. When his branches have already become tender and puts forth its leaves, you know that summer is near. So he's giving examples. So if this happens with the fig tree, you know how to read the signs. So you too, when you see all these things, recognize that he is near right at the door. By the way, you often wonder in the story where Jesus goes and cursed the fig tree. But look who's here, guys. This thing, he's everywhere. But have you noticed when Jesus tells the story of the fig tree that he cursed the fig tree, though it was not time for figs? Well, because the fig, the leaves bloom to tell you that there should be some fruit. I don't know what you're looking, maybe he's looking for the, for his coming back. But before the figs show up, there's fruit that should be there. Just interesting. So be saying, learn the parable of this fig tree. So you too, when you see these signs, these things, these signs, recognize that he is near right at your door. Truly, I say to you that this generation will not pass until all these things take place. Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will not pass away. So the question is, is Jesus saying that this generation at that time is the one that's going to see all these things? It could not be, again, the word this, and we'll look at this in a second, but the word this doesn't always refer to at that moment. But let's go put on the screen. I want to look at something. These are the things that have to take place. First, they will say, blessed he is he who comes in the name of the Lord. Here's my question. Has the Jews said that? Has Israel said that? No. Israel has not said, blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord. That hadn't happened. Next, nation rising against nation. You might be able to make that point, but not even at that time. Not really. But if someone wants to make that point, that's fine. That's fine. Famines and earthquake. They will deliver you who's they to the synagogue, I mean to tribulation, and kill you. I think that's speaking what he says in Daniel in Jeremiah, this last seven, when this covenant is made, continuing, a great falling away from the faith, not from having faith. There will be this great falling away from people. Now, we're seeing this more and more of people who they weren't obviously believers to begin with, but that is going to accompany or precede this. Then he says, this gospel will be preached to the whole world. Guys, and you cannot take this to mean, when we say the whole world doesn't mean, it just means just that area. No, it's literally to be preached to the whole world. At that time, that had not happened. Yet, as a matter of fact, we're going to see them being scattered and then pushed to different parts of the world to preach is what Jesus tells him. The Holy Spirit comes upon them and they will be witnesses where Jerusalem, Judea, Samaria, and to where the uttermost parts of the world. What else has happened? He says, a great tribulation like never seen or will be seen. That didn't happen then. Now, here's the more important part. The sun will be darkened, move cat. Wow, he is really rude. Can you move please? Listen, I'm trying to do something. If you don't mind, if you don't mind, please. Thank you. He said, the sun will be darkened and the moon will give light. This cat is now wow. He is literally, I don't know if you all can see him. He's right in front of the camera. He is so rude. This cat will not make the tribulation. I promise you. I promise you. Anyway, he says, the sun will be darkened, the moon will give light and the stars will fall by. Are we saying, are we to take this as being metaphorical or we take this as being literal? I might want to take this as being literal. And the last thing, remember, don't forget when those things happen, the son of man is coming back. He hadn't come back. Now, there are going to be some that are going to spiritualize us and say that. Thank you, Robert, by the way, that will spiritualize us and say that, well, he came in judgment almost like the Jehovah's Witness do when they say in 1919 that Jesus came in power on his throne. Nope. Sorry. And then he says he will gather his people, his elect. That hadn't happened either. So these are the things that must happen. These are the things that have to happen. Let me grab this cat. He is. Okay, cat. That's about good. He's moved. He has moved. So these are the things that must take place. Now, I want to pull up something else as well. Something that Luke says, Matthew 21. Let's go to Matthew 21. I mean, I'm sorry, not Matthew, Luke 21. He's speaking about the same thing, the return. There will be signs in the sun and moon and stars and the earth and on the earth dismay among nations in perplexity, dismay among the nations, not just Israel, but among the nations in perplexity at the rory of the sea and waves, men feigning, men feinting from fear and the expectation of the things which are coming upon the world for the powers of the heaven will be shaken. Then they will see the Son of Man coming in the cloud with power and great glory. Then they will see this. But when these things begin to take place, straighten up and lift your heads up because because your redemption is drawing near. Now, speaking about Jesus, I mean about Israel, right? Now, let me see where is that? Okay, here it is. Be on guard so that your hearts will not be weighted down with this passion and drunkenness and worries of life and that they will not come on you suddenly like a trap. For it will come upon all those who dwell on the, all those who dwell on the face of the earth. All it will come upon everybody who dwell upon the face of the earth. But keep on alert at all times. Look what he says, praying that you may have the strength to escape all these things. So Jesus is saying, pray that you don't have to go through this. Who won't go through this? Those who have placed their faith in Christ. So now, I want to go over something really briefly. I want to go over something really briefly about this whole issue of the word this. There are passages. Matter of fact, let me just start placing some of these passages. Let's do it. Let's say in Mark. Let's stay in Mark. And I want to just tell me if the word this in these passages refer to, well, each of them will refer to, I'll put them on the screen. And he said rightly, did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites as it is written? This people honors me with their lips. Now, the word this that's used here is this referring, which this? Which this is Mark, or is Jesus referring to? This people that Isaiah was speaking of? Or the this that is right there, that particular time with Jesus? Which this? Because the question is, when it says this generation? Well, why do you think that meant that particular generation? This, this. Which this is he speaking of here in Mark 7, 6? Well, who's the this? Well, it's going to be the type of people, this kind of people, these people are with me. How about if we go to Mark, let's go to Mark 812. I'll just type it in. Mark 812. You tell me who's he referring to? Sign deeply. Excuse me. In his spirit, he said, why does this generation seek for a sign? Truly, I say to you, no sign will be given to this generation. Here's my question. This generation, is it just this generation at that moment? Or does that apply to other generations or other peoples who weren't alive at that time? Why do these people just seek signs? Is it just, is he only referring to them? No, he's not. So in this case, this doesn't always refer to this. Let's go to Mark a few more. Mark 838. I think Mark 838 is one of those as well. Okay. For whoever is ashamed of me in my words, in this adulterous and sinful generation, the Son of Man will also be ashamed of him. Is it just that, this, that group? Or is it all inclusive, meaning this type or this kind or these people, this generation? Is it just, so only that generation at that time that Jesus is speaking of, that's the only one he's referring to? No. No, guys. How about, you know what, let's do Luke 8. 8, 14, I believe it is. Oh, the seed which fell among the thorns, these are the ones who have heard. And as they go on their way, they are choked with the worries and the riches of this life. So this parable only applies to those that were living at this point in time, at this life. Only those that will be choked by the result of that, the life then, not the life today. This couldn't apply to us. This, this never is to be taken as speaking of a moment in time. It could refer to a specific moment in time, but this is what we call a demonstrative pronoun. It's pointing to something. What does it point to? The whole of. So when we look at Matthew, when Jesus says, this generation, these things will happen, this generation will not pass until this happens. He's not speaking of them. He says, when all these things start happening, when these things start happening, this generation won't pass away. This generation won't die. They will see this. They're with me. Because that generation, a lot of folks died in that generation. That being the case. So now, is there a basis for saying that this tribulation, because so far we've only seen the tribulation being focused on the Jews? As a matter of fact, not even just on the Jews, but only on a specific locale. The whole world is going to see him coming and going to tremble. But he's focused on Israel, specifically even the city, Jerusalem. So thus far, and we've seen the things that must happen. Now, I take that the tribulation has nothing to do with us as Gentiles. As a matter of fact, which page am I on now? Okay, let's go to this page. Let's start in, you know, let's start in 1st Thessalonians 1. Notice what he says here. He makes this statement. He says, and to wait for his son, Paul is giving these comforting words, is for they themselves report about to us what kind of reception we had with you and how you turned to God from idols to serving a living and true God. And to wait for his return, that is Jesus from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, that is Jesus, who rescues us from the wrath to come. There is this wrath to come that Paul is speaking of. And so this Jesus who is coming is going to rescue them from this wrath to come. So now, by the way, I will get back to this whole 70 weeks and second, but I think it's finally important. We see here in 1st Thessalonians 4. Let's go to 1st Thessalonians 5. Matter of fact, let's start in 1st Thessalonians 4. As a matter of fact, I think 4 is where I want to go. Oops, I'm sorry, I typed it in wrong. And let's start in 1st 9. Now, as to the love of the brethren, you have no need for anyone to write to you for you, for you yourselves are taught by God to love one another. For indeed, you do practice it toward all the brethren who are who are in all Macedonia. But we urge you brethren to excel still more and to make it your ambition to lead a quiet life and to attend to your own business and to work with your hands, which by the way, that is a servant in and of itself. So that you will behave properly towards outsiders and not be in need. But we do not want you to be uninformed, brother, about those who are asleep, so that you will not grieve as do the rest who have no hope. For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with him those who have fallen asleep in Jesus. For this we say to you by the word of the Lord that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will not precede those who have fallen asleep. For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a shout with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God and the dead in Christ will rise. By the way, there are so and I don't have a problem with anyone that makes this point. There are those that will say, well, this trumpet, isn't it like the other trumpet, the last trumpet, but in this case, this trumpet is a trumpet of God. Is it saying that God is the one that's blasting trumpet, like the fathers do in a traditional wedding ceremony? The father is the one, or is it from, it didn't say, but in the other passage, the last trumpet, now this might not be the same trumpet. By the way, it didn't say so. Then we who are alive and remain will be called, that's where we get the word, rapaso, the Latin word is the word rapturo, we get the word rapture, will be caught up together with him in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air so that so that we shall always be with the Lord. Therefore, comfort one another with these words. It doesn't make any sense to comfort somebody with the tribulation if the tribulation is going to be worse than anything we've ever seen. How do you comfort someone? As a matter of fact, again, is that keeping in with what God has been doing? God has not been punishing the righteous with the unrighteous. God has separated the righteous with the unrighteous. And so, what would be the point of this tribulation for the righteous to go through? What's the point? What's the purpose? To make them become more safe? Well, that's not the case. To punish them for what? Being righteous for being safe? No. It didn't even make, it didn't even make, and I know it shouldn't be about what makes sense, but even still in this case, it didn't even make sense. It just doesn't make sense the fact that I've done what I was supposed to do. I've placed my faith in Christ. I'm in right standing. Comfort me or comfort everyone else the same with the fact that we're going to get beat badly. We're going to get beat badly. The point of warning would be to be warning those who don't see. The point of warning, warning somebody of this impending doom or anything is for them to get right. What are you warning them of? You're warning them of the penalty for not getting right. You get right by placing your faith in Christ, you're in right standing. So now, what is there to be warned up? Take comfort as he says. So, also, other pastors, let's go to chapter 5 verse 9. Notice what he says again though. He says, God has not destined us for wrath. I'm speaking like Captain Kirk. And now, let me ask a question I'm looking at some of the folks. Like, for example, Louise, he says comfort in the tribulation. Have you all vetted out yet what's the point of the tribulation? Tell me you guys who disagree, who think that the church will go to the tribulation. Although we can't find one passage of the church in the tribulation. That's interestingly enough. But what would be the purpose? Can you find a passage that tells the purpose of the church going through the tribulation? Or have you told us what is the purpose, the point of the tribulation? This is what we do like this. Like, I'm all ears. Please help me out. What is the purpose of the tribulation? Whether you agree with me or not, what is the purpose of the tribulation? That we need to know. Now, he writes back to them in Second Thessalonians because they are thinking, well, have we missed it? Have we missed the tribulation? Well, what does he say in Second Thessalonians? Oh, what did I do? What did I just do? Oh, I'm sorry. He says, for the mystery is already at work. Only he who now restrains will do so until he is taken out of the way. Then, so here's the other thing, the tribulation also has to bring about has to reveal who the lawless one is. Who's the lawless one? Don't know. If you know, then you've been left, so to speak. Then the lawless one will be revealed whom the Lord will slay with the breath of his mouth and bring to an end by the appearance of his coming. Would you ask? I don't understand. You said, Cory, then what was the point of you going through prison? Huh? As I said before, the point of punishment is to do two things. I want you to follow this imaginary bouncing ball. The point of punishment is to do one of two things. One, to punish me. Two, to correct me. Who doesn't get punished? The folks who aren't set, who are saved. If you do right, if you're right standing, you don't get punished. You don't go to prison or you don't go to the tribulation. GC is both the word tribulation and the wrath are both there. So we're not going to try even, we're not going to try to miss those, miss those words. Now, so we, so we see what punishment is for and how has God always used punishment? He chastised those whom we love and when he says that he's speaking of Israel, he's going to chastise you, I'm going to beat you, I'm going to beat you into submission, which is literally what he's saying, which is literally what he's saying. So I want someone to tell me what is the tribulation for? If, because I know what you're going to tell me and then you're going to ask yourself, dead in the church, well then why does the church need what the tribulation is going to do? What did we already read? What is the point in purpose of the tribulation? Why are you all looking for that? Why are you giving me my answer? What is the tribulation for? Because I think it's important. I think it's vitally important to figure out what the tribulation is for. Peter, he says, but you, I'm in the wrong one, let me come out of that one. I'm in the wrong one. There it is. Peter says this, then the Lord knows how to rescue the godly from, and this word right here is literally the word for temptation or tests or trials and keep us, and I'm sorry, and to keep the unrighteous under punishment for the day of judgment. Look at literally what he just says. Louise and GC, pay attention to these words. The Lord knows how to rescue us from the testing, from the trials. That's literally what this word here, some version might even say trials or temptation or testing. He knows how to do that to rescue us, but also how to keep the unrighteous under punishment for the day of judgment, and especially those who indulge in the flesh. Louise says the tribulation will try us. For what? What will it try us for? What? By the way, this is the point that I'm having a problem with. This is the problem that we're going to have a problem with. When we literally look at what the Bible has always said from go from Genesis, go all the way up even into Matthew, and we see what he says, what he spells out the point, the purpose of the tribulation, then you come back and say, well, forget everything that the Bible has said about the purpose of it, what the tribulation is going to do, forget who the tribulation is for, forget that, it's to test us. Find the passage for that, please. Find the passage for that. The point is, guys, there's a reason. God doesn't just do, he's not like me and you. Sometimes we just get him to do stuff. There have been literally times, guys, I don't know, I do this sometimes. I do this sometimes where I'll get up, I'll walk out. It might be nine o'clock at night. I feel like having a cup of coffee and I'm getting ready to go to bed. I'm not even thirsty, but just because. You know why? Because I'm a human being. Do dumb things. Not God. Not God. Not God. Why do we go through tribulations? Well, again, our tribulations and the tribulation are two different things. This tribulation as, guys, am I correct? Let's settle a few things. Are all tribulations the same or is there something as the tribulation? For example, are all judgments the same as the judgment? Is there a final judgment, definite article, the judgment? Yes, there is the judgment, but then we also have judgments in the meantime, right? Are you with me? Are they the same? They are not the same. They are not the same. Now, every tribulation is not the same as the tribulation. And when we speak of the tribulation, this great tribulation, this wrath being poured out, did we not just discover in those 20 plus verses that we read that it's a punishment and what the punishment is for? My question is, why do we even bother to read this? That's the ultimate question, guys. Why would you bother? I'll tell you what you do. Here's what many are going to have to do. You're going to have to get on the Andy Stanley train. You're going to have to get on the Andy Stanley train and unhitch the Old Testament from the New Testament. Yep. You're going to have to get off of that. Tell you what you do. Where's my Bible? I don't have it. Take your Bible and just cut out the first half, the largest portion of the Old Testament. Cut it out. You don't need it. You don't use it. It matters not. If God's word, then that meaning thing, remember, these are prophecies. How do we know that Jesus was going to come in Bethlehem that's going to die on the cross for our sins, die and be risen on the third day? How do we know that? Because there's a prophecy about that in the Old Testament and these prophecies were fulfilled literally. Israel expects those to be fulfilled literally by the way, by the way. I said this 70 year period, I mean these 77s, after the 69th week, certain things are going to happen. In the 70th, seven, something's going to happen. Before the 70th, seven though, what is God doing? He is dealing with the Gentiles. How do I know? Paul tells us that he would wish that he could be a curse for his fellow countrymen, Jews, his kinsmen of the flesh. But he said that God has not forgotten his promise. God has not forgotten about Israel. We've already read that Israel will not cease to be a nation from before the Lord. And he has not forgotten about them. So when is God, according to the Bible, Louis, G.C., answer my question or anyone else that might disagree with me? When is God going to turn his attention to Israel? When is, and Louis, we're not going to get into a Greek discussion because what you're saying is incorrect. Now, my question is this, when Louis or G.C. or anyone else, when is God going to turn, according to the scriptures, turn his attention to Israel? It's my only question for you right now because maybe we can go somewhere. When is God going to turn his attention to Israel? That's my question. I would love to know your answer. Louis, G.C., or anyone else that might watch this later, when will God turn his, it's very important, vitally important, when will he turn his attention to Israel? No, G.C., no. Let's go to it. Let's put it on the screen. And I'm disappointed, by the way. You know why I'm disappointed? Tell you why I'm disappointed because I've literally covered this a bunch of times. I'm not disappointed. I'm having fun. I'm having fun with you. Let's go to, I'm sorry, Steve said that I see his answer. No, Steve, I didn't see your answer. I have to, I'll see that answer. Okay, I see your answer. Thank you, Steve. Steve, let's go to Romans chapter 11. I say that God has not rejected his people, has he? In other words, he's not through with Israel, has he? Is he? May it never be. For I too am an Israelite. In other words, there are some Jews he's still working with. A descendant of Abraham, the tribe of Benjamin. God has not rejected his people whom he foreknew. Or do you know what the scripture says in the passages about Elijah? How he pleas with God against Israel. Lord, they have killed your prophets. They have torn down your altars like I and I am alone. Just me. I'm left. And they are seeking my life. But what is the divine response to him? I have kept for myself 7,000 men who have not bowed the knee to bell. In the same way then, there has also come to be at the present time a remnant according to God's choice. This word choice is the word elect, election. So there is a remnant according to God's elect. What did God say that he's going to do about this time? This time is going to be so fierce that even if it was possible that it would have taken even the elect, which elect? Well, he's speaking about Israel, the Jews, this Jewish elect that Paul brings up. But if it is by grace, it is no longer on the basis of works. Otherwise, grace is no longer grace. What then? What Israel is seeking and it's not obtained. You mean to tell me Israel is not going to get what it was seeking? But those who were chosen, obtained it? So wait a second. So Israel doesn't get it. These Gentiles get it. What gives God? Paul is going to fix this. He says, and the rest were hardened just as it is written. God has given them who? Israel, a spirit of stupor, eyes to see not and ears to hear not. Down to this very day. So at this moment that Paul is speaking and from the past, God has given Israel a spirit of stupor. And David says, let their tabernacle, I'm sorry, the table become a snare and a trap and a stumbling block and a retribution to them. Let their eyes be darkened to see not and bend their backs forever. I say then, they did not stumble. So it's a fall today. I mean, their stumble is complete. They're going to die. That's it. The prophecy already stated that he's going to hurt them, but he won't destroy them completely. So it's what Paul is getting at. May it never be. But by their transgression, salvation has come to the Gentiles to make them jealous. Didn't we cover this before? Earlier, go back an hour and a half ago when I said the whole point of the tribulation. What is the point of the tribulation, ladies and gentlemen, to bring Israel with one? God's going to be glorified, but he's going to bring Israel back to them. How is he going to do so by making Israel jealous? Jealous with who? Us Gentiles, people who are not a people. And so this Paul says, salvation has come to the Gentiles to make who? Who to them jealous? Jews. Now, if their transgression is riches for the world and their failure is riches for Gentiles, how much more will their fulfillment be? But I am speaking to you who are Gentiles in as much then as I am an apostle to Gentiles. I magnify my ministry. If somehow I might move to jealousy, who move to jealousy? My fellow countrymen, that's these Jews, and save some of them. The whole point is to save these rascals, these knuckleheads. For if their rejection is the reconciliation of the world, what will their acceptance be but life from the dead? If the first piece of dough is holy, then the lump is also. And if the root is holy, the branches too. But if some of the branches were broken off and you, being a wild olive, will graft it in among them and partake with them of the rich root of olive tree, do not be arrogant toward the branches. But if you are arrogant, remember that it is not you who support the root, but the root supports you. Let me drop down. I'll stay there. You will say then branches were broken off so that I might be grafted in. Quite right. They were broken off for their unbelief. But you stand by your faith. Do not be conceited but fear. For if God did not spare the natural branches, he will not spare you either. Behold, the kindness and the severity of God. To those who fail severity to God, but kindness if you continue. The tribulation is not kind, guys. Otherwise, you also will be cut off. And if they also, if they do not continue their unbelief, will be grafted in. For God is able to graft them in. Here we come to it. For if you were cut off from what is by nature a wild olive tree and were grafted contrary to the nature into a cultivated olive tree, how much more will these who are natural branches be grafted? Now my question is, my question is, when will God start dealing with the Jews? He's focused on the Gentiles. Paul answers it right here. I do not want your brother to be uninformed of this mystery so that you will not be wise in your own estimation that a partial hardening has happened to Israel for how long? Until the fullness of the Gentiles come in. And so all Israel will be saved. The deliverer will come from Zion. Where is this spoken of, guys? This is spoken of obviously in Isaiah. So in the middle of between the 69th and the 70th, seven, this break, how long is this pause? So to speak, this break between the 69th and the 70th week? We don't know. But when it ends, that will be the fullness of the Gentiles. Then the 70th week picks up. In that 70th week, there is going to be a covenant made with this lawless one. The Restrainer will have been gone. If you say the Restrainer is the church or the Restrainer is the Holy Spirit, doesn't matter. The Holy Spirit is in the church, gone out of here. So when that happens, once the Restrainer, the Holy Spirit, now tell me if this makes sense. Because it's only two things, either the Holy Spirit or the church. If the Holy Spirit is gone, well then how in the world are Christians here? Someone help me out. Someone help me, because I'm confused. I'm confused. If you're going to tell me the Holy Spirit is gone, but the church is still here. That makes absolutely no sense, at least scripturally, because we know for a fact that every believer has the Holy Spirit. But if the Holy Spirit is gone, then that means we've lost our salvation and have the Holy Spirit. We are worse off than we started off before. That's why you do not see the church being in the tribulation, which is why you'll see something like a Revelation 3.10, which says, because you have kept my word, my perseverance, I also will keep you from the hour of testing. By the way, that same word that Peter uses, testing, that hour of testing, trials, that hour, which is about to come upon the whole world, to test those who dwell on the earth. I'm coming quickly, hold fast what you have so that no one will take your crown. He who overcomes, and we've all been told that we are overcomers, so we don't have to worry about that part. We've already been told that. And so when we start seeing the tribulation happening in Revelation, and we won't go through all the different seals in Trumpets and so forth, but we see what happens up to it, and who must be gone. Then we're going to see the church show up again, 1920, Revelation 19, Revelation 20. Now, something that we covered before, I forgot who asked the question before, but to get back to it. After this tribulation, something's going to happen. I take a pre-trib view. If you take a post-trib view, Houston, we got a problem. I want to go to Revelation chapter 20. Revelation 20 says, when the thousand years up, I believe after the tribulation, then Christ comes back, sets up his reign for 1000 years. I believe there's a literal 1000 years, not a few years, a time. I think God is so exact and precise, He can say it's going to be a thousand years. Everything else has been precise about, but a thousand years. At this moment in time, Satan will be bound, not to deceive the world. When the thousand years are completed, Satan will be released from his prison, and will come out to deceive the nations which are in the four corners of the earth. How is Satan going to deceive anyone if, if, the tribulation happens after the millennial reign? If, if, if he raptures us after the tribulation, because what's going to happen is this, if the tribulation happens before the, I'm sorry, if we're raptured before the tribulation, then we have, those who've been raptured, we have a glorified body. This corruptible takes on incorruptible. When we come back, there's a thousand year reign. Those that have made it throughout the tribulation, those who have lived, the seven year period who have lived, will live and reign with Christ for a thousand years. However, there will be people who will be dying during this time. How do I know? Let's go to the Bible. Let's go to Isaiah 65, and let's go to verse, is it seven? No, let me just go back over here. Let me go over here. I did this, I did this wrong. Let's go back over here. I thought I had it already put up, and I didn't. So let's go to Jeremiah. Let's go to Isaiah. I'm sorry guys. I should have had it typed in. 65, is it 10 or 17? I can't remember. It's 17. So look what he says, Behold, I create new heavens and new earth, and the former things will not be remembered or come to mind, but be glad and rejoice forever in what I create. For behold, I create Jerusalem for rejoicing and her people for gladness. I will, I will, I'm sorry, I will also rejoice in Jerusalem and be glad within my people. And there will, look what he says, and there will no longer be heard in her the voice of weeping and the sound of crying. No longer will there be in it an infant who lives but a few days. That was what he's saying guys. It's important. Or an old man who does not live out his days, for the youth will die at the age of 100. Young folks are going to die at the age of 100. And those, and the one who does not reach the age of 100 will be thought accursed. So there will be someone that will die before 100 and that person will be thought of as a curse, bad person. How could that be in this millennial reign? They will build houses and inhabit them. They will also plant venues and eat their fruit. They will not build another inhabit. They will not plant another eat for as a lifetime of a tree. So will be the days of my people, my chosen ones will wear out the work of their hands. So now going back to Revelation 20, in this thousand year period, there are going to be people that are going to die. There are going to be folks that are going to be born. Those that die before 100, he says these are accursed people. Meaning that everybody that's born after the tribulation and in the thousand year period, not all of them are going to be believers. Now we're talking about a thousand years and there's going to be a large number of them. Look what he says when Satan is released and will come out to deceive the nations which are in the forecourt. Remember everyone else has been destroyed. Everyone else has been killed. So the only people that could possibly be around will be those folks who made it through the tribulation and then the thousand years start and then after the thousand years this happens. He will gather them and there will be this war. The number of them is like the sand of the seashore is verse nine and they came up on the board on the broad plane of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city. This is Jerusalem again and fire came down from heaven and about it. Pretty easy fight. Pretty easy fight. And the devil who was deceived, I'm sorry, who deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and remstone where the beast and the false prophet are also and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever. Now look what he says. The next thing has to happen. The next thing that has to happen. Then I saw a great white throne and him who set up on it from whose presence the earth and heaven had fled and there was no place found for them. I saw the dead the great and the small standing before the throne and books were open and another book was open which is the book of life and the dead were judged from the things which were written in the books according to their deeds and the sea gave up the dead which were in it and death and Hades gave up the dead which were in them and they were judged every one of them. Then notice what he says then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death the lake of fire and anyone's name was not found written in that book of life was thrown into the lake of fire. So now at this moment the last death will have occurred. Death has been given up. There will be no so the last thing that's why I say if you want to go back to Genesis 3 15 when he actually crushed the head of Satan that's it. Satan is defeated forever let out defeated forever crushed and death is also gone away no more death and he says I will wipe every tear from their eyes there will be no more weakness so forth there will be no more death whatsoever. Okay can I just say this Louise this is really a goofy statement for you but that's fine that that's fine because you have not been listening which is fine the problem that we have today is that people just simply it's almost as though I've given what 30 scriptures about 30 scriptures and some people some people you'll give it to them and they won't that's fine which is fine I get that I get that why would you want me here for the tribulation why would you want me to go through but that's fine that's fine if that's what you want if that's what you want I've had a tough life I might I might be able to handle it more than maybe maybe somebody else could so I'm just saying I don't know I don't want to go through it I don't want to go through it and I don't think I will because again Louise you have not told us yet what the Bible says the point the purpose of the tribulation is you gave your opinion but you haven't given the scripture but but I said you're saying GC but again the Paul is clear and the Bible is clear that they will not have to go through this tribulation so the only recourse is for them to be taken out of it and again the purpose of the tribulation from beginning up till we actually see it is Jews that's it that's it whatever passages you're having from the previous passages don't cause you in confusion because the previous passages make it pretty clear that it's just for Israel and we know it's just for Israel because they keep saying that so that being the case it ain't about their life yet and you'll be told nobody's about that that tribulation like you guys people make it out to be that it's not gonna be that bad that's because you're here that's because I'm pretty sure your air conditioning is on right now I'm pretty sure you got wifi I'm pretty sure I'm pretty sure you got iphone or android I'm pretty sure you can pretty much eat when you want to eat I'm pretty sure you have all the creature comforts I'm pretty sure and so it's hard to imagine it's hard to fathom like children it's hard for when we were children to imagine things being bad it was it's always just hard and your parents were warning I get that I get that but he's literally telling you this he's literally telling you this and see louises is is is conflating passages that don't even refer refer to the same thing that's fine though it's fine it's fine the tribulation is gonna be bad when he says it's gonna be like nothing you've ever seen or everything that you will see it's gonna be that bad it's gonna be so bad that men will be is that a woman bent over um holding his loins it's gonna be that bad we haven't seen it's it's gonna be that bad wow take him at his word when he says that or do you just think that we just metaphor just just this is metaphor a metaphor uh no it's literal and the question is going to be why why then if it's going to be that bad why are we going through with those who have placed their faith in Christ so anyway guys um I don't have time for uh for questions because we are two hours in but I will say this they will say the mountains fall upon us it's gonna be that bad I don't have time for questions um when we do the q&a feel free to ask then or if you want to leave a comment and ask a question in the comment section but guys this is my take on it I hope that um it was thorough enough obviously you see they don't have the ability or the time to go through what is being spoken of in revelation but the point is uh not what it's going to be like in the tribulation but why the purpose of it but I'll say this though in closing if you have not placed your faith in Christ I would say I would say make sure that you do make sure that you confess that Jesus is Lord the Lord that is God and then in doing so I think you will find your place in him I don't think you'll be going through the tribulation but even even if if I'm wrong ultimately you want to be in Christ and live forever in him amen amen