 When it comes to web browsers Chrome is kind of the default standard and that's kind of sad to say but as a Foss advocate if that's what you want to call me. I didn't want to use Chrome. I just really don't want to use Straight up Google Chrome. It just doesn't sit well with me And I've had my problems with Firefox as anybody who's watched the channel knows Yeah, I've moved away from Firefox several times and kind of gone back. I just have problems with it So I've been experimenting with other Chrome based browsers that aren't Google Chrome But at least have the advantages that Chrome kind of offers broad accessibility across every website there It's because it's basically Chrome everything works in it supposedly we'll talk about that later wide availability of the browser itself and speed we the browser has to be Fasting I mean really fast is a relative term obviously But really what I'm looking for is to not be slow, which is something that I experienced on Firefox quite often So over the last month or so I've gone through and tested two of the most popular Chrome based browsers brave and on Google chromium now I've made videos about both of these browsers before and my initial impression of brave was that it was met I think I even entitled the video brave browser is met I've also made videos about on Google chromium in the last month, and I was okay with it, but I had some issues Mainly dealing around the fact that it doesn't have any syncing capability at all And it's hard to set up because of that because I have multiple devices I kind of need sync and if you want to sink in on Google chromium you have to look at a third party which is Not always a great thing so what I thought I'd do today is kind of combine these two experiences and talk about them and Compare brave and on Google chromium now. This isn't a Comprehensive versus feature versus feature kind of thing. That's just not going to happen It would take too long and would be mostly redundant simply because they're mostly the same But I think I will go through and cover most of the main points that most people will care about so Let's go ahead and jump in So if you were to look at this without actually cheating and looking in the title bar You wouldn't know whether I was showing you on screen right now was brave or on Google chromium outside of a few key differences and those differences are of course the title bar says brave But also we have a lion up here in the address bar That's the only difference you're gonna see compared to something like this which is on Google chromium So this is Google on Google chromium right here. There's no brave lion That's the difference in terms of user interface at least in terms of the user facing features The settings panels are completely different which we'll talk about here in a minute But in terms of UI they look like Google Chrome the act like Google Chrome they smell like Google Chrome They're basically Google Chrome but with features ripped out and features put in at least in terms of brave They have features put in with on Google chromium Mostly they repeat features out and then just kind of left it as the bare bones thing and we'll talk about more about that as well So the first thing I should talk about is Availability so if you want to download these things you can get them pretty much everywhere brave I've found is a little bit more available in terms of actually having binary support in most repos If you want to download it on Ubuntu or arch or whatever you can find brave in the standard repositories It's not so simple when it comes to on Google chromium Whereas it's in some repose. It's not another repose and in some repose you have to build it It's kind of a mess in terms of that so in terms of availability you can pretty much get them everywhere So the next thing I want to talk about is extension support because these are based on chrome extension support is very good There was no problems with any extensions that I've tried you just go go to the chrome web store and you can go through and use Any extension that would be available for chrome now brave supports this out of the box And you just go to the the web store Click add to brave and adds it just like you would an extension in chrome or Firefox it just adds the same way with on google chromium You have to take an extra step because that functionality is actually turned off by default You have to install a extension that will allow you to use the Web store and you can do that from a github page. It's fairly easy three or four steps It's not a big deal And I can see why they turn that feature off and or have more have pulled that feature out But it's one of those things you have to kind of think about when you Make your decision on which of these browsers to use So in terms of extension support once you get past that added extra step on it on google chromium The extension support is actually exactly the same because it just uses the chrome web store now Probably the key difference here between brave And on google chromium is the syncing capability now out of the box on google chromium Which is what you're seeing on the screen right now Is completely devoid of any syncing capability whatsoever There's nothing here that even comes close to resembling syncing support So if you want to sort of sync bookmarks or open tabs or any of that stuff You're going to have to look towards an extension to do that And that's just the way it is. There's no fixing that they've actually pulled that out now That's not only that that's not their problem I mean their whole stick is anti google stuff So they don't want to put any google stuff in there at all even if google allowed them to have syncing capability They wouldn't want it because they're on google chromium So if you're going to use on google chromium go in Knowing that you're not going to have any syncing capabilities built in by default You'll have to use some kind of third-party extension to do that Now with brave, which is what you're seeing here Brave has its own syncing capability built in it's done via blockchain of all things, which is Whatever I mean because of course it is I mean brave's thing is cryptocurrency And I'm not even going to talk about that much in this video But the point is is that that's how they sync stuff I found it to be Okay in terms of syncing stuff syncing open tabs Not so much. It doesn't actually do that at all, but syncing bookmarks works just fine It did take some time once you set up the the chain between your devices It does take some time for that information to go from one device to another if I remember correctly It was about 10 minutes. So don't expect that thing to be a really fast in terms of Syncing capability and it supposedly will sync other things too But I haven't noticed any of that stuff mostly because it's not important to me I will also say that it doesn't do a very good job of syncing your brave accounts So there are brave accounts You can sign up for one specifically if you're going to get involved in their little cryptocurrency nonsense thing If you sign up for that in on your desktop And then you sync via the blockchain to say your phone Those accounts aren't going to travel over so you'll have to sign in in both places And that also kind of means that if you don't have an account and you're kind of earning that either a cryptocurrency without You know ever really intending to Cash that stuff in but maybe someday you whatever if you're going through this without an account You're kind of collecting that cryptocurrency on two different place on two different devices with two different wallets It could get very Messy trying to combine those things. So if you're going to get into this for the cryptocurrency, which I recommend you don't do that I don't think that crypto the the bat cryptocurrency is going to go to the moon or anything like that I highly doubt that but if you were to do that just keep in mind That the best way to do that is to start off with both your all your devices On the same wallet so that you don't have to go through and mess around with multiple wallets It's kind of a pain in the butt, but just keep that in mind So in terms of syncing capability brave wins outright simply because it has one and going google chromium does not So the next one I want to talk about is speed now I could go through and run browser speed tests and that would tell you all the information you need to know But for the most part I found that browser speed tests don't really tell you all that much for me The way I determine if a browser is fast or not is just kind of experiencing it Going through and using it for a month or two or whatever And just kind of getting a feel for how fast things are in terms of these two browsers They're identical. I haven't noticed any situation where either of them is slower than the other Or that they're significantly faster really than firefox was I had some problems with firefox where things specifically google products were so slow I never had that problem with either of these two browsers But I wouldn't expect to because this is basically google chrome just with stuff pulled out of it or replaced So all the google products work really well in this whereas they didn't really work that well in firefox In terms of the two browsers compared side by side, I did not notice any differences in speed. They're just It was fast enough. I never noticed anything as slow. Like I said at the beginning It's not really that the browser has to be fast. It just it can't be slow, you know Because you you don't notice when I really when all the websites Load exactly the same speed as long as there's not an outlier or something It's when you've come across a website that's really slow that it stands out like a sore thumb So in terms of speed, they're both relatively the same Now here's The biggest stumbling block for what I think most people is going to be and that is drm support for streaming services now supposedly both on google chromium and brave Support wild vine or wide vine or whatever it's called drm service And that's what is required for most streaming services to work However, I wasn't able to get either netflix or discovery plus which are the two streaming services I subscribe to to work in either of these browsers. They both have errors Oddly enough, they don't say hey your browser is not compatible the well On discovery plus I did get that error, but with netflix in both of them I got an error that said please update your drm support or something like that And it tells you to go to this chrome extensions or chrome components. Well, you know settings page Update it in on google chromium that exists. So it it for example I'll just so you show you here if I can zoom in just a little bit. It tells you to check for updates for This one here the wild vine Or wide vine content decryption module it tells you to check the update and even clicking clicking this It does nothing for me. It doesn't change whether or not netflix or discovery plus work It just doesn't just it just doesn't work on brave You can go to the same thing, but if you if we go back here and you we look at some of the names here just Keep in mind just what this looks like you you'll notice that most of this stuff is just random names But if we go to the same place on brave, you'll notice that they're completely different So there's a lot of stuff here that says brave stuff, right? So there's some stuff that's the same but there's a lot of brave stuff here add it in And the one thing you'll see that's not actually here is the wide vine thing that it tells you to update so I don't know whether or not that means that brave doesn't support wide vine or whatever it's called Or if maybe I was doing something wrong But either way the bottom line was in terms of streaming support for both of these browsers I couldn't get the two streaming services that I subscribed who would work at all and That's kind of a big deal, right because streaming is a big thing that people use on the internet these days And while i'm not as big a streamer as a lot of other people I don't binge a lot of tv shows anymore I can still see that it being a big problem for people who want to use this browser as their daily driver now For on google chromium I don't think that that's as big a deal because the audience for on google chromium are people who are interested in privacy or interested in you know kind of pulling out of the Sphere of companies that collect your information. They may or may not be The same people who subscribe to things like netflix or discovery plus they're probably getting their media from other sources I mean, obviously there's going to have some people who use On google chromium and subscribe to netflix. There'll be some overlap there But I think that in terms of the number of people who use brave and also subscribe to netflix You'll have a lot more people who are doing both of those things And because of that the fact that brave does not actually Work with netflix is kind of a pain in the butt now It's possible that I was doing something wrong. So I did some googling. I've been trying to get it to work And all the solutions that I found on the internet or at least the few that I tried just did not work some of them told me to Disable the shields for netflix, which I went through and did It all one of them told me to go through and disable ad block which I went through and you know Did that as well? It didn't change anything. All right So the last thing that I want to talk about is bookmarks and settings management so we talked a little bit about syncing capability and We realized that the brave has sync and on google chromium does not have sync at all and That's just the first part of it So if you are going to use on google chromium managing your bookmarks is a pain in the butt But they both use the same bookmarks manager The problem is is with on google chromium You have to manage your bookmarks more than you ever will with brave because brave will actually sync from another brave Browser if that's what you want to if you've already been using it But it also I also found the brave imported browser bookmarks Better than on google chromium did for whatever reason on google chromium took bookmarks and put them all in one Folder and it completely ignored the existing folder structure that I already had I'm kind of very picky with how I organize my Bookmarks I have everything in folders and where it needs to go even if one of the folders is called stuff There are other folders inside that folder. So the thing is When you import your bookmarks into on google chromium It kind of shuffles them all together and the bookmarks manager that it comes with is just kind of utter garbage You can't drag and drop things really all that well at all. I talked about this in the google chromium video You can group you can drag things back and forth between the sidebar here But you can't if you want to reorder things you can't do that And that's really what you want to do You also want to if because when you come here after importing stuff all of your bookmarks will be on this one page And it'd be great if you could go through and select a whole bunch of stuff And then drag them into the folders where they were supposed to be in the first place But it doesn't work with brave they use the same Bookmark manager ignore the fact that it looks different. It's the same and it has the same problems as in google chromium thing There's no drag and drops here, but I found that when I imported from firefox all my bookmarks I didn't have any of the same problems I didn't have where it went through and just kind of shuffle everything together the folder structure remained there It didn't put them all in the bookmarks bar where I wanted them to be So I still had to move them from the imported bookmarks folder to the bookmarks bar But at least the structure remained, you know, so that's a definitely a plus in terms of brave Because the thing is is that it's not a huge deal like going through and doing that one time But the fact that there's no sync in on google chromium means that every device you use you're going to have to go Through and reorder those bookmarks every single time and that's a big pain in the ass Especially if you have a ton of bookmarks. I mean a lot of people have just a ton of bookmarks I don't have an absolute ton, but I have several hundred like if I were to do this for my mother She has probably 10,000 bookmarks And because she just random and then none of them are organized by the way She doesn't useful I mean she has folders, but she doesn't use them But the problem is is that you know if I were to have her go through into this And then having her to try to do this every time she set up the browser I mean it would be unusable. So that's bookmarks management now in terms of settings You'll notice if we go to the settings panel for on google chromium That they're completely different now on google chromium uses the chrome Settings panel if you go to chrome if you go settings in chrome you'll notice that they look pretty much the same The only difference here between this and actual chrome Is that they've pulled out all the google stuff you can go through and import your bookmarks and settings You can change the appearance select different privacy stuff One of the things you will want to do is go through and click privacy and security and then cookies and other data And then scroll down here where it says clear all cooking clear cookies and site data for when you close the browser by default This is on you want to turn that off Okay Especially if you want to stay logged into stuff because if you like log into youtube or you log into facebook or Log into any site it doesn't matter that always does keeps you logged in via cookie And if this is on by default every time you close the browser You'll have to re-log in when you come in now if that's something that you want that's fine But for me when I you know, I have two youtube accounts. I have two google accounts I have a facebook account and twitter account all this stuff. I log into all that stuff I don't want to have to re-log into it Again every time I close the browser at night. So that is just a thing for me now in terms of Other settings. There's a parent. You can change this search engine by default on google chromium has no search engine Chosen at all. So you have to go into the search engine settings and set a search engine for yourself It has the standard stuff here for for Search engines except for google So you can go have to go through and do being or duck duck go and other than that The biggest one here is going to be the security settings that you'll have to go through and deal with And by default most of the stuff is set to what you probably want But there are some things that you're going to have to go through in finagle The one thing that it's missing is like the the profile setting so where you can go through and set a certain security profiles that are Either more strict or less strict or stuff like that And I don't know if that's something that chrome just doesn't have or if it's something that brave has added But it doesn't have that as far as I can tell now for brave and in their settings I believe they started off with the same base But they've gone through and added a lot of stuff that are is brave specific So for example Sync is here if you want to just go through and set up a new sync sync chain You could would go through and click sync Start new chain And then it's going to ask you to follow the directions Whether if you're on a phone it's going to ask you to scan a qr code if you're on a Another desktop. I'm not actually sure how it's done. I never I haven't synced anything between another desktop yet I'm still using on google chromium on that one back there for other things There's shields, which I talked about a little bit earlier. This is their implementation of like Blocking advertisements and stuff like that and also will allow you to block scripts upgraded connection to htp https And things like fingerprint blocking and cookie blocking are all on this page here They've also added things like social media blocking and they have this whole brave rewards thing Which is their cryptocurrency nonsense and showing your ads and stuff like that I'm not going to get into that too much because like I said, I consider it mostly nonsense You're never going to come here and get rich. I think I've been using this now for a month I think I've earned a dollar. I mean it's dollar, but still You're not going to come here and become elan must by watching brave ads or whatever So in terms of settings and stuff, there's more functionality for settings in brave than there is on google chromium And that's not even counting the sync thing The sync thing is going to be completely different between them and as we discussed But there's also other things that you can do in Brave that you can't do in on google chromium things like the shield Things like social media blocking and there's more privacy and security stuff here in brave than there is on in on google chromium And that's simply because google chromium hasn't added any features They've just taken the google stuff out and then presented a browser for brave They've taken chromium or they've taken chromium And they've pulled the google stuff out, but they've also put stuff in, you know, I mean so I think if you're looking for a more full featured browser You're going to find that in brave and I don't think that you'd ever find that in on google chromium Even if you're looking for a more private browser I would say brave is more of a private browser than on google chromium Simply because it has more tweak ability you can go through and tweak it to your privacy settings that you want Whereas while you can do that in on google chromium It's not there's not as many tweaks there that you can do in order to make yourself more private Now if you're really looking for a private browser I would say use neither of these things and use firefox or something like tor or waterfox or one of those firefox forks that is actually built for privacy Neither of these are going to win the privacy crown in terms of being the most private browser out there In terms of comparing the two I'd say brave probably is a little bit more privacy focused than on google chromium Simply because they've added more privacy features into it now For me personally brave gets the victory here simply because of the syncing functionality The ability to sync my bookmarks at least between my phone and my desktop is Just an absolute must and because on google chromium doesn't even have that it just doesn't exist right So brave kind of wins by default because of that one feature In terms of actual use though If if I ignore the syncing capabilities the actual use between the two browsers is exactly the same If you took out the brave parts that blatantly shout brave at you every five minutes in terms of an ad If you took that part out and you took the shields out of brave Like if you covered them with duct tape or something you would not be able to tell the difference between the functionality of one or the other I mean you really really went now the settings panel would probably tip it off because they do look different But in terms of just going to a website going to facebook going to YouTube going to reddit whatever the functionality is exactly the same and the ui is so similar There's a reason why at the beginning of this video. I had and one I had my channel up on the other I had zany so I could tell them apart in terms of functionality They're exactly the same so which one should you choose and which one am I choosing so for other people Would I recommend either of these browsers? I think brave is probably the better browser between the two of them But I do think that they're a little bit too focused on their crypto nonsense It's fine And I know a lot of people like cryptocurrency stuff like that and they're they're deep into it and they're very Passion about it and I know I'll get somebody in the comment section saying you should take cryptocurrency more seriously It's not for me. I'm if I miss becoming a billionaire because of bitcoin So be it. I'll I'll earn my money. Um, you know another way I'm never going to be a billionaire anyways, so it doesn't really matter. The point is brave is a good browser except for the cryptocurrency stuff I would Wish that they had all the brave features But without the cryptocurrency stuff you can turn that stuff off. I haven't yet Like I've I've just kind of learned to put up with advertising at the you know It comes up with a done state advertisement once every 15 minutes or so I've learned to put up with it Mostly because I wanted to kind of experiments to say you know how much money could you possibly earn by using this full time For a month and it turns out it's about a dollar I won't spend that all in one place. Don't worry about that. Um, you can't even buy anything for a dollar these days So I don't know what I mean Whatever it doesn't matter So for most people I think brave would be the the choice here simply because it has more settings And is more fully featured If you're more privacy focused, I wouldn't choose either of these things So but if you were to choose between them brave would also still be the choice If you want the purest chromium experience, I I guess you would choose on google chromium At that point, I don't know why you wouldn't just choose chromium though I mean because yes, they haven't pulled all the google stuff out of chromium But really the only google thing was ever in chromium really was the singing functionality and they've taken that part out of chromium too so between those two browsers You're kind of hamstringing yourself in terms of functionality either way you go So I don't know under what circumstance you would choose on google chromium over brave I I kind of don't simply because I'm the kind of person who wants more features. I enjoy Okay, so I say this I want more features that make sense I don't want the all these more features, which is they're like, oh more features Let's put more features and here's a what an email client You know, I don't want that meant more features I just want enough features that allow me to tweak the the the browser And brave seems to have gone in that direction They they have enough settings there to make it customizable without also making it feel bloated So brave is probably the selection for me as well The question is how long do I stay on it? Everybody knows I kind of hot browsers more than I hot distros So there's a good chance that eventually I'll be leaving brave for something else But the thing is brave has mostly been a very good experience for me I'm just ignoring the cryptocurrency stuff for the most part has been a very good experience My only downside that I can say and that applies to both of these browsers is that it doesn't work with Netflix And I'm going to keep trying to solve that because I mean somebody's has got it working right because it's it's just chromium Right. I mean you think so anyway, so that is it for this video If you have a selection between these two browsers Let me know in the comment section below make sure you hit the like button and the subscribe button If you haven't done that already, I really do appreciate it. 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