 Collaborate desserts. They're super rich like cake and cupcakes and pies and Yeah, I'm sorry, but at the end of a buffet like I can't eat dessert because I've had four meals Yeah, that's why they call you jimmy buffet Do you ever try to like eat as much because like man, I paid so much money. I'm gonna get my money I'm gonna get one value. I used to think that way. I don't that's why I got into the proper Now I gotta eat my weight and crab legs to make buffet logic I need to be ill. I paid for this. You gotta avoid you gotta avoid the breads and the buffets work They work on the breakage principle, right? There's enough people who don't want to get in line to get the crab legs or don't like crab legs that they can They could offer the all you can eat crabs Yeah These aren't crab legs. They're shrimp and then my favorite one really it's not really a buffet but like uh, uh I'm pronounced it wrong because but like fogo dish the show or how do you put it? Yeah, close. Yeah. Yeah, that that all that that all brazilian type of all you can Oh, yes expensive you paying what 75 bucks. But the meat quality is so amazing like if you're into me It's we we did one for sir finan when she left revision three We we all went to one of those and we call that meat swords because they just come To your table the giant skewer of meat. Yeah, do you want cut how many cuts? Uh, I think it's great if you're doing like low carb. It's a it's a great treat I mean if you are a vegetarian or vegan, it's probably the last place you'll ever want to eat but although I've been I've been to one as a pescaterian There's not a lot of fish, you know on any of the but like it worked out. They they have a I thought you would say first first been tearing. I'm like, what does that have to do with it? I was a perspitarian A perspitarian steakhouse The lord was happy with it. Lamar, would you be willing to read the line three? Thank you thing The one that says thanks to everyone that supports daily tech new show. Oh, sure Then um, if everyone is In agreement if we have an accord we'll be getting the show. I think we're ready I Here we go Uh on my mark Lamar three two Thanks to everyone who supports the daily tech news show directly to find out more head to daily tech news show dot com slash support This is the daily tech news for monday july 30th 2018 in los angeles. I'm tom merit and from studio feline I'm sarah lane and i'm lamar wilson Well, look at that. He's a man of the world ladies and gentlemen lamar wilson Also, man of the world is larger chain. Hello. I am also a man of this one I just see where I was from because the line just says i'm lamar wilson. So I just followed it. Well, I do what you're told I thought you would want to embellish it like I'm in Los Angeles as well. There you go Uh, well, we got some good stuff to talk about we're gonna fix the internet on today's show about time somebody did right? All right. Yes. All right, let's start with a few tech things you should know though YouTube announced support for vertical videos on the desktop something that the mobile version of youtube already has support it So it plays a vertical video in its natural aspect ratio without putting It in landscape in that box with the black bars along the sides So some users have complained the video actually kind of loses quality or gets cut off by the new feature Hmm A joint venture a soft bank in yahoo japan called pepe is partnering with india's paytem To launch a payment system in japan by november now the qr code base Platform will be called pepe and integrated with yahoo japan smartphone apps The new dji mavic 2 quadcopters are shown in the latest argos catalogue in the uk though dji itself has not officially announced them The catalogue advertisement shows zoom and pro variations of the foldable unmanned aerial vehicle Both editions have 360 degree collision detection advanced pilot assistance systems an active track 2.0 with battery life Of 31 minutes according to the ad the pro lists a one inch c-moss hassle bad camera and the cheaper zoom shows a 2x zoom lens All right, let's I have the first one is still in a box. I'm terrible Uh, yeah, it's really hard to fly it that way I need to work on that not a drone expert, but All right, let's talk a little bit more about a milestone on the road blockchain Yeah, so the commonwealth bank of australia announced it has successfully tracked a batch of 17 000 kilograms of almonds From australia to germany using a private blockchain built on an ethereum network The bank's partners could check in on the platform. Oh, excuse me and read that again The bank's partners could check in on the location Temperature humidity and other metrics of the shipment whenever they want it in real time So this is kind of nuts. Sorry. I that's all I had there. Oh You know, no, I so I'm I'm a little ignorant on this So I don't want to act sit here and act like I know what I'm talking about when I when I don't I don't really understand the blockchain thing. I think it's interesting. My first thought in reading this was like Oh, couldn't they just have tracked this? Any normal way? Why is it special that using this? No idea is having all of this verified simply, right? Like yes, you can absolutely like log all this and input it Uh, etc But using the ledger system means that you you're you've got some verification that this is actually happening And only happening with the shipment that you're talking about It's it's harder to fake So using using the blockchain to track supply chain shipments is is one of the big holy grails of blockchain development because of that Because yeah, you know, you can't have somebody slip somebody a 20 to fudge the paperwork when you've you've got this Community validated blockchain going on and then then stuff like checking in on temperature and and whatnot It's just an added feature that you can add to the data as it moves from place to place Yeah, I mean going from australia to germany. Yes, this is the shipment of almonds, but it could be a lot of different things That's a long distance. You normally it would be where is this package? Hopefully you can track it but having all of these other metrics temperature and humidity and all sorts of stuff that Contributes to fresh food as we were talking about Today, that's really cool. Yeah and and And an example of the blockchain that doesn't involve cryptocurrency even though it's on the ethereum platform It's another use of it. Spanish taxi drivers. Tell us about those sarah. Well, spanish taxi drivers in spain Have been holding protests across the country against ride hailing services like uber Kind of came to a head two day monday cabs blocked access to major streets Including the grand via in barcelona and madrid's Catayana, did they do the y or the hell? I'm not really sure Maybe as well as airports and train stations. It was a big protest if you've seen any of the photos Pretty major the union is meeting with the government to attempt to resolve issues A spanish law limits ride hailing licenses to one for every 30 taxi licenses But cab drivers say this law is not being respected There are way too many ride hailing services on the road say the cab drivers So, you know union issue. I I guess my first I don't know if everybody saw the photos But my first reaction was imagine if this happened in la Just imagine. Well, yeah, and we've seen these protests in paris. We've seen them in london We've actually seen some in the united states uh in in places of vagus had had had a similar situation Not as extensive, right? But they've had it multiple times in spain now It feels like this is the kind of thing that's becoming rarer In london for instance the the cabbies were were fairly settled They they'd mollified them until they reissued the license to uber now. They're starting to get upset against We might might see something happen there But it does show that not all is well on the front of ride hailing versus traditional cab service Yeah, so I have a kind of a strong opinion on this I guess or maybe it's controversial You know when you when I saw this happening In different cities here and especially like in new york is a really good example. That's taxi heaven um The push of uber was a threat on their business and their comfort of you know Rude rudeness to cut they took customers for granted, right? This company comes in and you know, then they protest because now they're shaking up the industry. So I I am Against protesting for that reason because your job is being threatened if you weren't doing a good job However, what has come of that is that now the the cabs there have their own app They uh, you know, they're trying to compete with uber there They tend to have been more friendly. They now all have credit card Readers that work instead of you getting in there and they're demanding cash for you So like there's been a positive outcome and I wonder Is Do people think this is a good thing? I understand the loss, you know jobs or if uber is not following the law It's not post, you know, I was doing more drivers than the 30 one and every 30 I get that part But I I wonder is this a good shake-up of an industry that needed to treat customers better in the first place But and it depends on the area in london Cab service was very good. Not that there weren't improvements that can and have been made Uh, I I've taken a cab in spain from the airport to barcelona And back for to the grand via basically and back and it was fine But I can't I don't have enough experience with it to know if that's one that needed it I'll tell you what san francisco. Absolutely needed it because there were too few medallions You could not get a cab in certain parts of the city And there was no movement to loosen it up Until uber and lift came along. So yeah, it just kind of depends on the region Technasia has a profile of a coffee shop in shanghai called ratio where customers scan a barcode at the entrance you don't talk to a person you place your order on a kiosk pay by mobile mobile and Ordering allows the customers to customize the ratios of coffee water milk, etc Hence the name of the company of the cafe ratio Then what makes it really interesting is a robotic arm makes the coffee So you don't talk to someone to order and a person isn't making your coffee The robot's making the coffee does all the grinding all the mixing of the heating of the milk Whatever needs to be done places and on a counter where a human waiter picks it up and delivers it to the customer The part you think wouldn't even be needed The robot also makes cocktails if you're into that The chain was founded by Gavin Pathros who led the digital transformation of yum china They're the folks who do kfc talk about pizza. No, there's there's also a food court at alibaba's hema supermarket Which uses robots as waiters and chefs for many dishes I thought it was interesting that this is an example of a cafe where they're like Yeah, we can replace everything with humans So we'll still employ humans because that Raises our level of service above other cafes because then you can talk to them at laser They they can do better service to bring you your coffee. You don't have to fight people for it at the counter, etc Yeah, it's like it's that last mile, right? And you know that the whole service, you know It's automated, which I guess it can be but yeah that that last human touch that we desperately want to hold on to I and so I think that's why they do that Well, you know, I think a lot of folks are like ratio of coffee water milk I don't know myself included but I do know that I like to do it myself So if I could figure out how the robot could get it precisely the same way every time rather than What a barista might think is best for me Because I'm the only one who knows that Then yeah, and and to be able to I mean quite frankly probably churn through more folks because Because the humans can can do all the other stuff at the same time. That's really cool. I uh I'd like to have one of these coffees to to see how I actually feel about it But yeah, I mean if you like regular old, you know, not fancy coffee one of these Robots seems a little uh, you know over the top, but as people tend to I don't know respect the art of coffee more or certainly coffee snobs There's there's more and more of of those kinds of places cropping up It seems like it would be uh good for the assembly line overall Yeah, somebody who's picky knows and once it done exactly a certain way can get it that way And also skip the lines. I mean starbucks already does this in the us starbucks is the 51 percent of the market share in china That's what ratio is going after they want to take a piece of that away But but that kind of automation in fact starbucks struck a deal today I think it was with alibaba to provide delivery services Uh because delivery of coffee is a is a big deal in china right now as well But anything that makes you not have to stand in line for five minutes or more to just order your coffee You can do it on the app and then not have to stand in line for five more minutes or more to wait for the coffee to be done Uh, i'm i'm all for that EA's origin access premiere is now live The new pc game subscription service announced in a vester call last week will cost $14.99 a month or $99.99 a year Subscribers will get access to EA's first run titles five days before the release date As well as an extra content in game currency plus all the benefits of the basic origin access membership Which includes EA's 100 plus game library and 10 off Origin digital purchases upcoming games that will debut on a premiere include madden nfl 19 hall of fame edition FIFA 19 ultimate edition battlefield 5 deluxe edition and anthem legion of dawn edition so This this was i believe announced a teaser at e3. So now, you know, we have more information that this is out They have a similar service on Well, not similar to this but a service called EA access that is on console specifically the xbox where You get access to games early, but only as a trial And so you get a weekend trial to see if you like any of you want to buy you get 10 off And so this is a new thing pc only and i definitely see this subscription service is I wouldn't say trying to go after the xbox game pass but xbox has a service on console very similar to this all their first run titles the xbox develops And a lot of older games you get about 100 of them for 99 bucks a year or 999 a month. So that There's this is a interesting market that we're in now of subscribing to games versus owning them I'm of the the camp of yeah, I think the subscription is great. I mean think about 15 bucks a month and you get access to 100 games And a couple first run ones that you would have to pay 60 bucks each Well now as long as you play one a month you to me you break an event. So I I think I think it's a good good service. I hope it extends to console at some point Subscription services are the new hotness too. I mean that is that is that is what every company is trying to get into It's not just video. It's not just video games You know, it's clothing and other stuff too. So it's no surprise that we're gonna see a lot of these I'm curious how many of them can succeed I'm curious if if they will end up generally being From the game companies themselves like this EA one, although EA I know has some other game studios involved in EA origin and access and and access premiere Right, but it's mostly EA stuff. That's the biggest. All right Yeah, so yeah, I I think it's a positive thing I I do worry about the over subscription like how many things are we gonna end up subscribing to where we're not paying more We want and then that'll shake out the that'll shake out the market. Not all of these things are going to survive Someone is sending CDs full of malware to us state officials everybody The multi-state information sharing and analysis center has issued a warning About the scam the packages have a chinese postmark With a somewhat rambling letter and a cd with a set of word documents containing malicious visual basic scripts state archives state historical societies and a state department of cultural affairs official Have all received letters This is interesting. So they're banking on uh, first of all state governments in the us Not having upgraded to the hottest the latest laptops, which is probably true So they'll have cd drives and then gambling that enough people who get these will be like, well, what's this? Let me stick it in my computer because to activate one of these malicious scripts All you have to do is open the word doc Yeah, who who has cd drive? Every person at the state historic I have I have one in my car still Okay, well, I think yeah, I've got one in that machine over there the windows machine down there Uh, I don't have one in any of the laptops that I use currently except for the think pad I think my old think pad it's a couple years old now Uh has a tray um, but yeah, I mean it's getting rarer, but it's not as rare as you think Let's see you're on the cutting edge. Maybe like well But okay, so you you work for the government in some capacity, uh, you you get a cd in the mail There's a chinese stamp on it. There's a letter that is, you know Rambling or whatever a word you want to use You know, the these are the sorts of things where you're like, I don't know I don't know what this is but i'm not doing anything with it But there are enough people and this is you know, the whole idea of of you know, social engineering that that they get fooled Partly by curiosity partly by confusion. I think yeah It's dvd drives not cd drives We know that we're we're using the terms loosely I know somebody's gonna call us on that but amos in the chat room says We have new computers at his job at the usa f they all have dvd drives And even when I go to c s or those type of events I'm gonna give you like the little flash drive with the more information I I don't like putting those in my computers. I don't know you shouldn't yeah Yeah Because those can have viruses that auto activate too without even the company who gave it to you knowing, right? It could have happened somewhere up the up the chain from them Um, so yeah Uh, folks, if you want to get all the tech headlines each day in about five minutes by golly I invite you to subscribe to daily tech headlines at daily tech headlines.com and they'll save you time and make you smarter Although make me smart entirely different thing from market watch. It's just great because it's got mollywood and chai riz dollon All right, twitter announced it will work with professors from leiden university to study how echo chambers form on the platform Uh, you know where people just start to amplify each other like I think this is true Yeah, I think it's true and then it just takes off from there And something I have been pounding my fist about for a long time. What effect they have we know echo chambers exist So they're going to talk about well, how do they form? So maybe we can stop them from forming or at least discourage them and what effect do they have? Maybe they're not worth stopping. We don't I'm they probably are but let's find out what effect they have so we can try To figure out how to better deal with them Uh, among the things they're going to study will include the difference between Incivility and intolerance. I found this very interesting past research Not the research they're about to conduct but past research has shown that being uncivil can actually serve an important function Like just shutting making everyone say nice things is not good You actually need incivility to advance discussions. It has its other negative side effects But it can serve an important function while intolerance is almost always counterproductive Uh, twitter also announced it will work with professors from oxford and amsterdam to study intergroup conflict Showing that conversations with positive sentiments and cooperative emotions and more complex thinking can reduce Prejudice and improve relationships again with the idea of how do we foster these things to make for a better experience? At the same time a uk parliamentary committee put out a study about online disinformation calling for urgent action to build resilience Against misinformation and disinformation into our democratic system. The report recommends Everything everything you can come up with off the top of your head to combat disinformation and misinformation is in this report I'm not kidding you uh tax on social media Uh public education both in schools and to enter the public in general Uh changes to election law advertising law Another report covering the inquiries wider terms of reference with a closer look at advertising is going to follow So they're not done with throwing every recommendation against the wall and here in the united states senator mark warner actually published a white paper On axios with proposals for fighting pub political misinformation same sort of thing Protecting user privacy and promoting competition 20 options in senator warner's white paper there A few fewer actually from the uk one but still hefty with options. So I wanted to talk about this because I don't know about you guys. You guys poke holes in my argument here But I look at this and I think twitter's doing the right thing in this case Let's get people who actually study this sort of thing To ask the right questions so that we can then hopefully take what we learn And figure out how to make a better platform Let's not just assume that oh if we shut everyone up from saying not bad things that'll help apparently it won't Uh, let's actually figure out what how this is all working. Let's start to study it closer In this case what's happening is These these researchers are continuing their research just with the aid of twitter Whereas the uk and the us uh thing and particularly the uk one is just like we think this is a problem So let's do this Without really knowing whether it's going to help or not Yeah, I think I think this is a tough thing because you have news right news that's supposed to Give you facts and then you have commentary, which are people's opinions. I mean, this is a commentary show Uh, so so a lot of times the commentary is disguised as news and you know that Causes the emotional reactions and that creates a you know, uh feelings Where I just want to go I want to go into my echo chamber where I get the news I want to get right so I I think and I think there's nothing wrong with it is you still somehow Are exposed to what you need to know like I I think this is good for twitter I look at something like I was just just debating this yesterday. I was myself to talk to myself Using the google news app versus the apple news news app and it's just they were there pretty much the same But what I like about both of them is that yes, I could personalize the news the way I want but They also kind of make it where you got to have to see the top five things that are happening no matter what so You know, I I think those kind of things that i'm not saying google has it right I'm not saying apple has it exactly right, but those type of things start to break down Uh, you know these echo chambers or these fake news or whatever you want to call it in and and It's something being done So I I think twitter jumping in on this it's important because they are the source of the immediate news And it's very important they figure out how to How to disseminate that right or I don't even know controlling the dissemination is even the right word because They could be promised with that. Well, I mean at a certain point you could just control the dissemination, right? It's it's trying to figure out like how do we have an open platform where people are allowed to just talk to each other That isn't Open to obvious abuses. Yeah, absolutely one of the um one of mark warner's Uh options that uh, he laid out which is it's a fascinating read And to me it seemed really well thought out and made a lot of good points was the idea of Giving a user, you know a facebook user a twitter user Any, you know social network user some sort of a measurement of how valuable they are to data collection companies So it's not about followers, right because we all think like oh the more followers the better this this experience is But for a for profit company that is harvesting your information How valuable are you to the companies that this company works with and is their bread and butter? And are you okay with that? So a cloud score for information? Well, I I don't exactly know how it would be, you know generated and then and then uh recorded and and and uh offered up to the users But the idea that There are a lot of folks on social media who have kind of bought into this whole idea of Just information and and you know friends and you know, we're all communicating together and you've seen those facebook commercials You know, they're very very syrupy But but and that's fine. Well, you know, it wouldn't be the first company First companies to do that twitter going on record and saying hey, we need to figure out some stuff about the echo chamber The echo chamber, you know in real life We're all very familiar with the fact that people tend to hang out with other people that Share their beliefs and their likes and that's kind of the way it's always been for better and worse But when you have a platform that offers much more information At a much higher speed in real time and is kind of changing the whole landscape You can't just say well, you know, that's how people are because it has changed behaviors of of humans all Yeah across the roads. I do think we overreact to that though I I think brexit and the 2016 presidential election caused enough people on Particular sides of both those issues to be upset To start blaming what was truly in effect. I'm not denying that it was effect For the outcome in such a way that they say something must be done now without Giving us the time to figure out well, hold on how much did it have an effect? What effect did it in fact have and how do we make sure that that effect is mitigated Against any kind of outcome not just the one that you didn't like And that's why this uk report where it's like well, let's ban micro targeted political advertisements Let's put the tech companies on the hook for liability. That's a popular thing to say right now Like make them be on the hook may or may not fix any of the problems It may just allow other avenues to open up and and it may it may not actually go after the thing that causes it Yeah, I think there's two things in both of these studies senator warners in the uk's that I I think Are similar and one of them's dangerous and one of them isn't both of them Want to modify laws in the usk modify the the cda section 230 to make tech companies more liable for the speech of people on their platforms I think that is likely to have unintended consequences that they don't want I think it's a short-term fix the other thing that I think is great that both of them recommend is Let's spend some money on educating public about how this works. I am all for that Let's also figure out how it works But there are some things we know that are best practices that we can start to tell people about like hey You this might be a bot, you know, don't necessarily engage. Don't believe everything you read etc Yeah, I was I was going to say to say that you said it in your second point education Was was ultimately solve this but we need to find out what What the exact problem is and and get people to to Allow themselves to be educated and it everybody won't won't buy into it But I think I think we're we're at a point now. We're in society where you know, things are explained to us In a rational way. I I think the majority of us will The majority will that's another thing to educate the public about everybody thinks Oh, uh, everyone but me is stupid and irrational and nothing will work Most of us are actually pretty rational and we're pretty we're pretty good people. I ain't done Most exactly The whole idea of education is like, okay. Well, when does that happen and where this happened to school? Is there, you know, a new class that kids need to go to? Is it an element of the classroom? I think a public public related public information campaigns would be good Yeah, exactly. I mean the uk lists out, you know, some plans for okay Certain companies are gonna have to pay into some, you know, public fund where we're going to further education That's a good idea. Sounds good in theory to me, too But how is it going to be rolled out? That's that's the next question Thanks to everybody who participates in our sub reddit You submit stories like this and others and we love you for it Submit stories and vote on them at daily tech news show reddit.com If you want to hang out with us on facebook facebook.com slash groups slash daily tech news show All right, we get the emails and we love them. What do we got today? Oh, man We got a good one. Uh hutch wrote in with some clarification about how law enforcement uses facial recognition Versus what the public thinks and this is kind of piggybacking on our discussion last week about the aclu running a test that incorrectly identified members of the us congress as You know people connected to mugshots and it was it was incorrect So uh, hutch says as a law enfor law enforcement analyst I've relied multiple times on facial recognition matches as investigative leads But keep in mind their leads. They're not evidence. They're not proof and they're never 100 Facial recognition is just simply facial math the technology we use can't take into account skin color our tones or gender Or even hiccups like if somebody's wearing glasses versus another picture where that person is not The subject images don't have to be used to completely be front-facing But there are also limits to the angles off center that the technology cannot handle While the operator can manually adjust points of interest on the nose or ears or forehead etc Found in the subject image. It won't guarantee a perfect match as a matter of facts as hutch I've had an image of a white female produce a match to an african african american male Because the math was close enough according to the software Hutch says we have an in-house expert He was trained in the fbi he couldn't do matching of the subject to photos of booking photos But the computer is not going to testify computer can't be used as evidence Use of facial recognition is really no different than getting an anonymous tip It can point you in a certain direction. It can help you eliminate some false leads But it still requires evidence gathering prior to arrest and prosecution Thank you hutch. Yeah, that was very Yeah, no, it's great. I mean and the tldr is If you're using facial recognition, right? it's Only one of many things you're using to go after a prosecution and the fear is like they're going to have a match to me And it's going to be a false positive But then they're going to arrest me and throw me in jail and what hutch is saying is Maybe that can happen, but not if they're doing the job, right? Exactly and just just um just a note about the story because again, hutch was responding to our aclu test story amazon responded to that aclu test showing its recognition software wrongly identifying those members of congress uh amazon's general manager for deep learning and artificial intelligence matt wood said The aclu used the default setting which is 80 confidence level But amazon says hey if you're law enforcement, you got to bump that up to 99 percent Or you're going to get a lot of false positives Uh, in fact, the company says it tried to duplicate that test that the aclu Conducted involving the same portraits, but amazon used a larger data set of faces for comparison And said when we set the confidence threshold to 99 percent and had a bigger pool Our misidentification rate dropped to zero despite the fact that we are comparing against a larger pool overall So it bears out what hutch says Use it as a particular tool and use it right. Yes 99 percent we're not and trust me. I'm not saying they all do But that's what you should be holding their feet to the fire. Absolutely Well, thanks to lamar wilson for being with us this fine monday lamar What has been going on with you since you were last with us? Well, the audio people can't see this But i'm holding a uh funko pop. Uh, I just completed funko weekend. Uh, not not sponsored on my channel I wanted just to get back into collecting these these little adorable things Uh, and I normally do gaming stuff, but but these are just adorable. Look at it. It's just so cute So, uh, yeah, I did a yeah, I did a weekend where I did marveled in dc actually, uh Unboxed and taste tested the funko cereal that just got released. So if you're into collecting, uh, check that out I did a series this weekend today's the final Uh video on that series and yeah, that's that youtube.com slash lamar wilson Would be appreciated. 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Maybe we can get them to do it along with Yeah, oh, that's him. That's him. Yeah, I was wondering who that was It's uh, just a rubber young saying the thing about that. Okay, brian Okay, let's confuse about that. Yeah awesome Good show lamar. Yeah, great. Are any of you all collectors of anything? I'm just curious Books Tellos baseball cards Collection of baseball I collect transformers I didn't know that Me either not a lot of people do because I don't normally talk about No one's ever really asked me that so I don't think I do like do I collect anything? If you did, you'd know Although I have to be careful because with with kids he you want to make sure that you don't spend too much on on yourself But it was cool Go ahead. No, no, I say you can get out of hand. That's all I was gonna say. Yeah, it can I was I used to collect comic books and I have 400 pounds of dead trees in my garage Wow, now he collects dead trees is what he's saying Digital comics are the best thing since slicebreak it goes to forests. They really are I mean, that's how I feel about digital music I guess I used to collect music Did you have like a bunch of CDs like a wall of CDs and tapes because I know I did for a point Yeah, that was too much at one time. It was like the more you had the better Were well, that's how you that's how you were considered a true Yes, your status. Oh my gosh. I really I've I've fought the battle in one of keeping vhs tapes I've mostly fought the battle in one of keeping dvds in blue rays We we keep just the bare a few that are hard to replace or just not available easy This is against Sawyer, right Sawyer. Yes, obviously she said yeah, honestly when I say I fought the battle I'm not talking about against anyone but myself Like my own like just let go but I we still have all the CDs I have I have so many dvds when when dvds were out and like a thing I spent a lot of money on dvds I have like 800. I actually have more like a thousand discs if you conclude that each disc in a box set Like in my garage because That's still a thing though. People still like that over over digital. I mean I get symptom from disney and uh, I'm on paramount Yeah, I used to yeah Yeah, I think I get the universal blu-ray. So I like I got a stack of those uh, because he's a send me review copies And I just have a lot of them like and I watched them occasionally put them in the garage I really don't want to like make the track Like I mean it's sort of like if you do actually go into those boxes Occasionally, then maybe it's worth it But there's some collector stuff where it's like you don't touch it. You just have it That's where I'm like that's that's not me renter. I need closet space like it just like mentally. I can't get I'm the same way play it like it's one thing it's like oh don't touch these but you have them in a nice display case You know where people can look at them and you can look at them. That's okay, right? Yeah, no, I I would say, you know And it's probably because I've moved so many times over the years where you're just like You know, I see these is adding my reason It's interesting to say that because I kept a lot of the stuff because I used to move around Quite often. So that was my that was what kind of anchored me to any one location Was oh, this is the stuff that I grew up with or this is the stuff So each thing was like oh, this is from my college years. So this is from my first job years This is when I was slinging nacho chips and hot dogs at the exploratorium. So they were all I mean we Tom and I and you sir all know an individual we worked very closely with who has a very large collection of stuff Of why that could be like a lot of people we work. Oh, no, no, I know who he means Remember we used to work with him. He's he's been on the show. We're like maybe once a month I need to narrow it for oh Yeah, okay. So but there's a wide variety of stuff, but he had things That would remind him of different times and places in his life. It was growing up. But that's why he can't And I feel left out It's Lamar he worked with us. You just don't remember Well, but that's I mean there are the nostalgia factor is strong I mean, there are not necessarily, you know dvds or whatever, but they'll they'll be like a I don't know. I you know a Perse or some some item that I've had for a long time an empty cologne bottle for instance Yeah, something that's of no use It doesn't matter to anyone but me but somehow it it's like a security blanket I don't want to get rid of it and I don't know why But we all have that stuff. Oh, yeah, I have a whole shelf of it right here I put in your studio, Tom I mean, sir, is that like a set behind you? Or is that your your kind of collection of little different things? You have like folks in there not as big like The unicorn arrived on friday because I have lots of stuffed animals even though I've Collected photos like they literally have an entire wall of photo albums of every photo they've ever taken of like with them in it You know because that's how they That's how they want to remember things like some people collect memorabilia because hey like whoa return of the jedi This is the last star wars ever better. You know get all the I will stop myself from getting rid of something We're like I don't really need this. I don't really like it and then it'll be like oh, but it reminds me of that time, right? I still have an old zip drive because that was like the first thing I bought in college That I I paid for with like money. I got from a like my job at the olive garden See, I move I moved different states and because of that I had to become a minimalist I don't have really anything from my from my parents Yeah, so you dragged all this crap with Yeah, I I got to a point where I mean like Thing is new Yeah, I'm just an angel quarter. I am really impressed With uh, one of the sneaker heads the guys who collect sneakers and shoes Oh, man, they are crazy, but they have seen some very elaborate like closet Storage spaces that are like really intricate. That's like that's really cool But it's also like whoa, you're like half your house is dedicated to like footwear I made I made a joke in my channel one time and I got heat for that because I was I didn't know like I said I made it. That's like, oh, please guys don't collect shoes and I just moved on because I had no idea Yeah, oh boy that I learned social networks built around sneaker head Then I learned quickly in the comments that that was uh, I wasn't being like sexes or anything I was just like, oh guys don't collect sneakers. Uh, man. Yeah, because you thought that was true Yeah, I have one pair I don't I don't I wear I wear Adidas Sambas because they're the only shoes that come out of the box that fit my feet I have a very old pair of Nike's I worded the gym That I've been told should be upgraded Because not only that they're probably giving me shins months, but also that they're really old looking and I'm like, excuse you They work There's something about collecting though that like that triggers The hoarding aspect of the human brain like whether it's nuts or foods or something but Like I see it the same look in people's eyes that collect like little, you know Lego mini fakes and stuff and they have like a huge wall of it for the same people who like, you know collect like I don't know like Like if they go extreme couponing or something they have just an entire like one half of the garage dedicated to like storing Pringles for the apocalypse Oh, I want to go to that garage. That sounds delicious. It sounds like a delicious garage. That's a very nutritionist nutrition poor garage sure Besides potatoes, I thought you had a thing against potatoes I don't like potatoes Oh, I was here for that conversation. I'm not like against them, but you know, yeah I don't have a thing against potatoes. If someone is like fries or salad, I will do We're oversimplifying and causing problems I never said I have anything against potatoes. Wait, are you here to have potato too, Tom? Is Tom being uncivil or in power? Tom is speaking for me. I said we took The action to create the internet. I didn't say I created the internet No, uh, I was no, I've been trying. Roger's right I'm trying to avoid eating potatoes because I feel like they're emptying calories. Yeah And I just don't think they're very good. I also love hash browns. That's like I generally don't like fries, but I love hash browns That's a really good hash browns if they're cooked In the right way and where there's enough burn And you put a lot of hot sauce on it and then you have like an egg fried egg That kind of gets in there. So that that I can do has to be a runny egg too. I can't But it has to like oh, yeah, it has to be a runny egg. Yeah, because then it I have the potatoes Be careful I don't know look I eat eggs almost daily. I cannot stand a yoke. It has to be a hard fry Like you're from the midwest. Isn't that like what does that have to do with it? Isn't that like a thing? It's a personal preference. Yeah Not a midwestern thing. No Runny versus solid versus egg whites versus Europeans do with their eggs I thought they put them in that little egg holder. They tapped it with the spoon and oh, that's that's not a midwestern thing. That's That's a weird east coaster thing Yeah, that's very much sounds like east coast. Yeah Sounds like maybe some people in downtown chicago might but yeah, I saw one of those They were having pizza and it was a pizza and that they put they crack a runny egg a few of them on and they put They put them in the oven the quick oven and they take I'm like, no. Oh, I'm like. Oh, yes Brunch with the egg pizza is a great brunch You want to do dts fixes the internet or we're in the world with the australian almonds? Or subscription services a new bike I was going with we fix the internet rather than repeating because the penis is already in the headline but the Okay, so number we fix the internet. Yeah, what do you think? I love it. Love it I love the contrary back to the eggs I don't I don't know I Lamar, I'm like you I eat probably two eggs every day of my life sometimes. Wow I know. Oh, yeah I eat more now because of the strict thing I talk talk about I don't I won't get into details now as I don't want to be oh, that's what lauren does but yeah I'm I'm on is I but I but I also don't I'm I'm not Opposed to a runny yolk And when it comes to hash browns, you kind of need it because the hash browns are dry Yeah, and you need the runny egg and it's good. No, no I do love And of the runny egg in many scenarios don't want runny egg on my hash browns Hey, thanks. I don't know you tom. Who are you? Yeah, it's like I'm just disappointed in everybody Well, mr. Spatato not hit I'm disappointed in you too My fries Oh, you eat fries. Uh, no, I you can have them because I Salad and place of If we go to five guys and we go to five guys, I'll eat your fries. Okay. Yeah, like like Ordering french fries is like something I've never done. I will drink your milkshake. I It's gonna have to be a good milkshake though. Like most milkshakes are kind of Even I prefer um I mean chocolate to vanilla, but also the um What's uh, not soft serve, uh, what's the chocolate that's like? Uh, no, not fake. It's like uh Nutella No Hold on I can't think of a word. Uh, it's Yeah I would rather get onion rings and fries, but very few places serve onion rings Carl's jr. Does Yeah Chocolate malts Oh Over the males has the best mall to me. Yeah. Well, yeah Mel's diner. It's really good It depends on which mel's like I find the quality can differ to isn't only two or is there more than Oh, no, there's a bunch of San Francisco too. Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah Well video folks, thanks for watching. Uh, hope you have a lovely monday. We'll see you'll be hungry Audio folks stick around. We'll make you hungrier with more