 Oh, it's a bourbon. Jack Daniels black label with water. That's good. There you go, man. Some lubrication throughout the day. Mostly Jack Daniels and a tablespoon of water. It tastes like, but still. Well, thanks for taking your time. I know you're busy and you're infamous. And a lot of people want to reach out to you. And the reason why I reached out is quite simple. I saw that you reinstated your campaign to run once again. Yes, absolutely. This is my question I have with politics and hopefully you can answer this question for me, Mr. McAfee. Every time that I hear these candidates running, I get confused because none of them have a clear fucking set of policies. I have real no fucking idea what they're talking about, what they stand for. So hopefully you can tell us today, you know, you're running right now. What is your policy? Like what are what's the foundational principles that you're running for? I have none. I have none. Let me be honest. Let's be human beings and you know what life is. If I told you I have a policy, we're going to fix this and fix that and fix something else, then you would know one of two things. I am purposely lying to you or I am inadvertently lying to myself and in either case, would you vote for me? Fuck no. Why? Because no one can have an answer. People do understand our system is broken and the flow of what should be information about the world to the people who create the government, which should be open and free, is controlled and propagandized by our covert fucking agencies. Yeah, I'm not going to lie to you. I don't have a fucking clue how to fix it. I do know how to fix you because it is on your backs each and every one of you that this nightmare survives. You carry it. You carry it through your belief, through your affiliations to Democrats or Republicans or some dichotomy that gives energy to your life like, oh, I have a fucking opponent. Yes, you do. But if you're Democrat, it's not the Republicans and if you're Republican, it is not the Democrats. It is if you are one of the people, it is the government which we have created. Talking about the government that we created, like let's say hypothetically you're getting voted in. What would you do? What's the actual things you would do? Nothing. What could a president do? A president's got no power. This is the problem, people. Please, do you think presidents get elected and they take office in a system where lifetime employees like the CIA, where you never retire and never quit, even an average of 40 fucking years in the president, an average of four, they're called transients by the permanent employees of the government. That's the government, people. Everybody else is a puppet. Political appointees, who cares, who is appointed as the head of the CIA, because the CIA just laughs them off. Another transient that's sitting in that office for four years, well, we're not telling you jack shit. That's not the real attitude. The real attitude is, oh, yes, we serve you. You are our boss. Wake up. In the second Gulf Wars, in the CIA's interest that Iraq get bombed into the stone age, they were a thorn in the side of the CIA master plan for the Middle East. And so what happened? The emperor of CIA Middle East, whoever that is, we'll never know, goes, I want this country bombed into oblivion. I want it done tomorrow. Are we clear? That goes to Washington and the CIA, fuck, he's serious, you know, he's going, he's either going to quit or do some silly shit if we don't make it happen. Ted, you and Jeff, you know, the president make this happen. And Ted and Jeff go, we got free reign, boss, you got free reign. Oh, that's easy. They go into the president's office. Mr. Bush, please, we have an issue of such grave importance that you must drop all other affairs. And please, Mr. President, sit down. We have just discovered that not only does Iraq have nuclear weapons, they have the missile capability to deliver them to London, England, our closest world ally, Mr. President. And Mr. President, we fear that if action is not taken immediately, there will be an attack on London within 24 hours. Now, Mr. President, we are not here to advise you. We are simply here to inform you of the facts. And we will play no part in the actual carrying out of your decisions or directors. Fuck me, that's what happened, people. President's got no fucking power. Who controls information, controls the fucking power, wake up. But then why, why are you running, why are you running then if the president has no power? I don't want to be president for fuck's sake. That's what I'm trying to say. All right, so let's flip this question then. Let's flip this question right here. I agree for the most part, you know, Chomsky has a great saying, the party's in power. It doesn't matter if you're left. It doesn't matter if you're right. It's one party power and that's the government. And like you said, it's a limited job. Urocracy grows on a yearly basis. You need your crackings and it's a cancer of government. It just constantly needs to grow. Question to you is like you said at the beginning it's changing an individual. What are people, what are things people can do today to better themselves? To better themselves? Sure. There's only one thing you can do people and first you got to free yourself before you can better yourself. And what does freeing yourself mean? It means vomiting up all the garbage, the propaganda, the mainstream media manipulations that have created your external version and vision of what the outside world really is. But that's not it people. It doesn't matter who you elect. Why do we have such animosity between the right and the left? Because it's in everybody's interest that there be some. It keeps us entertained. We have an enemy. I'm a Democrat. My enemy is Republican. Oh no, I'm a Republican. My enemy is a Democrat. Suddenly you have both a cause and a common enemy. You're going to play that game forever while it does not matter. Who wins because whoever does, like Obama for fucking years making Obama care what happened? Gone. Nothing can ever change. You've got Trump's wall. 93 miles have been built however let's look at it 91 and a half miles. We're repairing existing walls so please God nothing changes. The powers that be don't want change. Change brings what? Uncertainty and unrest which is the only thing that can throw the power off of the shoulders of those who currently own it. Do you see the truth people? Wake up. Make some noise. That's the power you got to take to the streets. You want to see some goddamn power people. Anyway, next question. All right, my next question is you've been in the crypto space for a long time advocating the technology. Where do you see this all fit into your equation of the future? How does crypto help people? Well, it shows held on health the way it's being used now which is oh let's get rich quick. It's by coins hold and save them hope they go up sell them. Fuck me people. Wake up. Get just some fucking privacy coins. Get jobs that pay you in crypto and get yourself off of the financial grid because there are tens of thousands of us that don't live with fiat money. We don't touch dollars and yens and euros. Why? We don't need to. Now, yes, you're right. We can't go down to the random coffee shop and get a latte. Haha. Brace my fucking heart. We can get everything else, cars, houses, food, jobs, everything in life that you need through crypto. So until you free yourself financially meaning how much money you make if you're still a slave money stays with you in your fucking cage and money will not free you people. I promise you I have had more than God and money will never ever free you. Courage is the only thing that's going to free you and belief in your own self. So how did you get your courage? What was that one moment when you realized? I didn't have a moment, dude. I mean from a lifetime of life saying you don't have courage well take this you motherfucker and then slap you around more just like you go to prison which I've done many times you do not whimper or fucking cry. No because you're going to be the play toy and the entertainment for everybody else. So I know this as well as anybody know you don't have courage and faith in yourself and that's all. And so you know you talk about courage you talk about crypto you talk about the fact that you know the one one party system at the end of the day and you talk about you know for change to happen people come to get got to get together but in in in all reality like let's be let's be honest do you see that in general society is getting better like overall like quality of living less wars or do you think that's all a pile of rubbish? Since when and because of what? Let's say in the last hundred years. Oh in the last hundred. Fuck please god let's look at history. I mean we went from things like the civil war which I mean allegedly whacked 400,000 people in a tiny country at that time to World War One which went into the seven or eight million stalled or two went into the hundreds of millions with tens of millions of billion purposely eradicated please god have we gotten better? No we've gotten stupider we continue to trust those that we put into power to serve us. What idiot thinks that anyone is going to ever fucking serve you? If you give them power what did your mothers and fathers teach you as children? I want to reach through this monitor and grab you all by the throat shake you and say wake up children good god I don't know what has happened but the general IQ of you goddamn lenient has gone from 160 down to something you can count on one fucking hand wake up wake up and use the brain that you were fucking born with for your own self-interest I'm not going to do for you forever. People have more of affinity to trust government I think it's like yes no no no no no no trust no they have a greater affinity to misjudge the truth of their existence no they don't trust the government they just think the government doesn't have much power they are blind to the fact that that government that they do not trust has put them in a tiny dark cage which gets tinier and darker every fucking year that's what you don't see of course you see you can't trust the government but fuck me a three year old knows that you watch South Park yeah you know that fuck me people who cares about the trust you can't trust anybody of course you can't trust the government who do you think you can trust your mother your father won't you look at history Roman emperors who killed them their fucking mothers their brothers or their fathers please or their children wake up the world is not the nice rosy place that social media and memes make it out to me oh people that it's harsh and then it's dangerous and and it's an adventure but you got to wake up to the truth off it or you will be eaten alive and soon but it's not going to happen on my watch I'm 74 hopeful with another year or two it's not going to happen if I have my breath and my freedom still which gets a slimmer and slimmer chance every year but I've made it so far no one knows where we are praise god I hope listen I think there's a lot of interesting things that you you mentioned and I agree with a lot of them but some of them listen I agree with you that social I think that social media has ruined a lot of people's perception of reality I agree with you that a lot of people don't inherently trust the government but they only believe that's the only system my issue with a lot of people who are angry at the status quo system is like what's the solution like I talked to like I'll tell you myself I'm a fucking hardcore libertarian I've been to jail as well I've been shot I've been stabbed I've gone north I've been through all the fucking ringers as well and that's my default character behavior for me when I see people just bitching like you have these leftists who are crazy with the government even have like crazy right people like I rarely see fucking solutions so like what are solutions to make things better that's my question to most people have any spectrums like what can we do today that's the make sense that's logical that we can start implementing the one and only thing that has ever been offered to any human at any point in human history which is here is the way out there are tens of thousands of us living it now people we don't give a shit about taxes we should about anything except what is right human here and now how do we do it with the courage to say no 10 years ago I said no I'm not paying taxes anymore illegal come and get me well they didn't ignore me for eight years where I've already paid over 50 million dollars in taxes people and I promise you I have not received 50 million dollars in services from this monstrous nightmare called our government so I ain't paying no more that's what I did well that forced me to go on the run and now underground but cryptocurrency came along and I chose to accept adopt and make that part of my heart my mind and my life so that my freedom through it could be an example for others so you want to know what you can do stop supporting and carrying that monstrous nightmare that you've allowed to happen sometimes you didn't vote it for no stop come over to this side come over to this side so this is what I think I hear you're talking about and there's people who've been doing it for a while and correct me if I'm wrong I agree with you 100 percent we need representation for taxation as you say and for the most part I'm a I'm a firm believer in volunteering for everything I'm a non-aggressive libertarian and you have something today it's like intentional communities where people are opting out they're living off the land they're hunting they're they're farming and they're trying to work in or go to jurisdiction which almost as minimal possible taxes and I even see some now they're trying to opt in for as much as they can to use cryptocurrency so correct me if I'm wrong are you kind of talking about that more or less let's build more intentional communities and live in the moment but that's right but we don't have to be with crypto we don't have to be hunters we don't have to live off the grid we don't have special communities we don't have to know each other we just have one common purpose I know that there are tens of thousands of us now and you know the names Brock Pierce Roger Vera or John McAfee do you think we touch fucking currencies dollars you're a fuck I haven't seen one in years I don't know what to look like no I'm stopping playing the game and we'll play it no more when we all stop the game stops people see the truth you are the power your acceptance of this shit you're saying well maybe we do owe taxes please god before 1913 we had none and we were the economic giant of the fucking world and that 2% tax was the beginning of the end are we the economic giant now fuck no we don't put us anything we're a goddamn service economy we clean the fucking toilets taxation was the end of civilization people wake the fuck up stop that oh it falls apart it falls apart anyway this is my opinion and I don't insist listen I I'm for I'm all for taxation is theft like I have no questions about that let's let's wrap this up so you know you just mentioned you you fell in love with crypto talking about freedom people getting courage people waking the fuck up uh people taking stuff responsibility let's leave it off let's leave off at this what would you say if you had one message to tell people out there at the macafe message what would that be well if it's a crypto it's one thing if you're just a general world it's another for the world is do what you love and nothing else nothing else if you if you don't wake up on Monday morning with a thrill in your heart and soul and mind because goddamn you get to go back to work if you don't feel that I promise you you don't love your job don't go in again ever I wouldn't bother to call my boss and quit I've quit two jobs without telling my boss I just walked away they were so worthless that they were not worth the time to formally quit so not just your job what about the person that you fell in love with seven years ago and for a year or six months or who knows when there was nothing else in the world except that person and the clouds you're walking on and the joy and bliss in your fucking heart seven years later it's gone and suddenly the person that's in bed with you is a stranger leave walk out the back jack make a new plan stand no need to be coy Roy just set yourself free doesn't old 60s rock some of them what I said or that would be my message carpet DM as they say all right thank you so much thank you so much brother I'll talk to you soon all right