 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Basically, after you die. So, I've recently, I had to make a testament. I'm buying a house, so I needed to make up a testament. And my notarist in Dutch, the guy who made our testament, he was asking solicitor, notary. Yeah, notar. Yes, go, what are you going to do in all the different scenarios that can happen after you die? So you die and you have heirs who, you know, have to take up your, your money that you have left or the money that you owe people. And in the case of a freelancer, apparently, when I die, my business goes to my parents. And because as a freelancer, your business is coupled to you as a person. So that was an interesting thought. And I thought, Hey, well, I don't know how my parents are gonna design WordPress websites, or talk to my clients or do anything productive with my business. And because I'm also a hosting company. And of course, clients have their own logins. But if I don't pay the bills, at some point, if I die or something happens to me, for example, I can't work or I get sick and I can't go behind my computer. It's really important to think about what will happen to your work. And also to get new work as a freelancer, there are definitely bigger clients that are really concerned like, Oh, I don't want to hire you because if something goes wrong, like the whole project is doomed. So thinking maybe have like a little discussion. I found online just now some tools. For example, Facebook has a trusted survivor. So in case you die, there's one person you are you can now assign. So maybe if you walk out of this session, assign on Facebook a person who takes over your social media. Because also your social media is part of your digital assets. So what I'd love to have a discussion about how to manage your digital assets, for example, social media, but also your cloud accounts or your professional logins. What happens to them when you don't have you thought about how it will impact your, yeah, your clients. And of course, all the people around you. I don't care. I want to, you know, make sure that my clients. Yeah. So Facebook and Google, I just found out they have a person you can assign or they have ways to do that. And I think more bigger companies will have that. But for example, if I now tell my lawyer, I guess, that he, to give him my last past password, I'm not going to change it for them until I die. Of course, I'm going to change my password. So that's not really a feasible thing to do. So you guys have other ideas. And I also want to have Remkes come up and talk a little bit about how he took over the business of someone who died. Yeah. So maybe you, maybe you can like talk a little bit about how that went and what he had arranged or she or, okay, so please, yeah, so tell your story. You can do it there or here. Wow. So multi sites even more complex. Yeah. Yeah. Like those one and all things. Yeah. It's just not a simple way to start. So he attempted to do it at first and made it worse. And at the end, they came to me asking how to, how to fix this. So the things you run into are flown to the main. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So you did get the login for the main multi site from the sun. So do you know, do you know what they went to the server and or the people who managed the server and they said, Hey, this person died and where the airs. Okay. How did they know to approach that? That was a server. Okay. Okay. So you do have access to email. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. So it's, yeah, it's also how to make sure continuity. Yeah. So so far we have, well, you needed to have access to email. Maybe you don't need that. So maybe like think about who can access your email when you die and, and who can look into that? Who do you trust to look into your emails? Maybe if that's necessary server? Yeah. What do you host? What's your hosting? And, and so this is more about a maintenance thing. But could you, what information did you need to take over such a, such a website? Like practical stuff, domain, where the domain is registered login of the domain register. Um, what else? So domain names? Yeah. Licenses. Yes. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. So think about like X theme. You might, you know, get on theme forest or like anywhere that you get your stuff, WPML license. I don't know, like random things that you use, but then to have it in one place and have all the passwords in one place might not be safe. Yeah. So that might be, and how do you, so you share it so people at all times can look into your passwords. Yeah. Exactly. So, so maybe you're thinking about this, what's going to happen when I die? Make sure you have a separate, maybe like a private fault, maybe for your parents, children, husband, wife, so they can access maybe your social media, etc. And also if you have two factor authentication. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. But maybe you car crash and your phone is dead. Scenarios. Yeah. Scenarios. It's all about scenarios. Yeah. I think continue continuity. So maybe think about when you do this, think about two factor authentication and maybe write down what your method is or they'll find out, they'll find out when they try to log in. That's a great idea. Yeah. Like in default to have, yeah, to have the notes there. Yeah. Yeah. It's great advice. Yeah, exactly. Cause people do have to take it over and sometimes they're legally obliged to, if they're to your errors and your freelancer, at least in the Netherlands, I don't know how this works in Germany, for example. Anyone ever wrote up a testament? Who has a testament in this room? Like a half a testament? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. With banks, so with establishing such as a bank, there are really nice protocols. You just go there with your death certificate and they give you access if you're the legal heir. But like with new stuff, and especially, I mean, your Amazon AWS, your cloud accounts, your Dropbox. Like if you don't pay Dropbox and there's a lot of data on there and it expires, what happens? And is that client data? Yes or no? Of course, double backups. Yeah. Yeah. Last pass has it. Oh, wow. Yeah. Exactly. Okay. So last pass and then exporting that to an offline location, make sure your notes are there, emergency access, where you were saying creating the separate fault shared with someone and hope they don't die at the same time as you do. Maya? Well, I read online on some forums that people say like, oh, in my contract, there's like this clause. If I don't answer to something within this many hours, they can set in, well, yeah, 70, like, I mean, 100 hours or, yeah. So a couple of days and they can, you know, find someone or request access to someone else. So you can have that in a contract. You're going to have your emergency access in a contract. Sorry, Maya. So with GDPR, it's personal data. So as long as you don't store IP addresses, names, addresses of people there, I mean, you can still do that if it's necessary for the services you deliver. So I would say that making sure your business can continue is a ground to save data somewhere. And as long as you make sure it's safe, then you should be okay. But you can, of course, in your contract with your clients say, hey, if you work with me, maybe just check here to agree that your data will be start somewhere in case something goes wrong. As long as you document that in GDPR, it's more about making sure everything you have, yeah, people accept that you use their data. But this is, so far, I haven't heard storing personal data from other people yet. It's licenses. It's your own logins. So I don't think it's that big of a problem yet. I don't know if anyone has a, yeah, exactly. But it's also doing business. You need there, you can store it somewhere. And if you store it in last pass, encrypted, and only someone can access this after you die, that's a, no judge is going to be like, hey, this is messing with personal data. Yeah, also, yeah, you don't get the fine, but maybe, yeah. So if you're a freelancer, your company also disappears when you die. I mean, it goes to your debts and your profit goes to your heirs. Yeah, so a one person freelancing thing is bound to your person. If you're, yeah, in the Netherlands, we have all these things like, if your corporation and the corporation is separate from you as a person, then of course it lives on without you. So it depends a little bit on if you're incorporated or not, and how it works in different countries, because I don't know anything outside of the Netherlands. Okay. Interesting. Yeah. Yeah. So take home message. Don't have one single password for Yeah. Yeah. My clients sometimes share their passwords with me, and it's always donkey five. It's, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Exactly. So it's really important. And also maybe what you're saying, like misuse of passwords, how to make sure that after you die, passwords are not misused. So I read somewhere as a, this was old advice, I guess, in your testament, they, in some testament advice, they said, well, you should write down all your passwords somewhere and then put it somewhere where your relatives when you die can easily find it. So they can, you know, make sure that your business continues. So this was, yeah. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Or I think these are a couple of things to realize when you work. Anyone else has, who has stuff in place for after they die? Like, like, who do you have? Do you have anything like how to continue your business after you die in place so people know what to do? That's a really good way. Yeah. Exactly. Or when you register domain names, do it on the names of your clients and just make sure that all the things in the licenses are in their name. That's good practice. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Yeah. That really makes a difference because then, you know, not a lot of things can go wrong because they can give it to the next developer or WordPress management and you don't have all these issues. Oh yeah, that's interesting. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, exactly. Like, this is really, I mean, this is really good best practices. So share best practices among each other. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe we can develop one. That would be interesting. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What would you like to know? Just a set of best practices. How to run your business if you make a website. Like, how do you register a domain name and then say, like, hey, it's best practice to do it in the name of your client. You do, you do what? Roadmap. Oh, roadmap. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. So maybe just general best practices in how to document stuff is really good. Yeah. Yeah. And no one has time tomorrow. So yeah. Yeah. No. Is it what I started doing quite recently is to put in the dashboard of WordPress when my clients log in, I have like a kind of like a help section, like go here, go to posts if you want to change a post. But also if you need help, here's like my details and maybe like in that help section, you can also write, Hey, if you just logged in, you realize I'm not there anymore. Go to this person and they can help you out in case something, you know, you can't get hold of me or maybe I'm just suggesting something. Does anyone else do things like that? Like help their clients in different ways. Yeah. So what I do if I have a new client when their site goes live, I send them kind of like a PDF with information about their account. Hey, hey, you have access to a C panel. Yay. You have access to your WordPress. Your domain name is either self registered or I've registered it for you. So all the information and usually they don't have any idea, but maybe you can, you know, in your contract or in your account information, you can, you know, just write more stuff. And let me ask another question. Did anyone ever encounter like someone who got sick and, you know, shit hit the fan or someone else who had someone die and have like a case scenario like Ramkos just had and someone else experienced that ever? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Of course. Oh, interesting. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Where passwords are. For normal people. Yeah. But like, yeah, so it's a hassle for you to go to a court, make sure you can access also for. Yeah. No. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Nice. Yeah. Well, just, yeah, just talk to the people around you and just make sure like, Hey, have you done anything and to, you know, start the discussion like what I'm doing now? What's up? Yeah. Exactly. Hey, dinner's over. Let's discuss what happens when we die. Yeah. Last pass. Oh, yes. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. But like, but like Facebook, you might know of someone else, but I had a zillion logins of random bank accounts. People might not know I have. So from bank accounts to frivolous social media or random accounts for licenses of some software. And yeah, so one last pass. Yeah. So we had have your account in last pass or one pass. Um, just document everything you have. Make sure you do best practices and make sure that everyone who owns stuff actually has access to it. What else? I miss anything. Yeah, don't share too much. Yeah, start a discussion. Yeah. Yeah. So, and with all this kind of stuff like safety, there's, I mean, if you really want to make sure that, oh, if the Netherlands goes underwater, so all your Dutch friends die, like, I mean, so there's always risk versus effort. And you can do maximum effort and there's going to be no risk. And you have a million people who you have, who will have your password in case something goes wrong. But just think about the risks that are actually going to happen. And yeah, maybe don't do it with the person. They're always at the same, take the same flights with maybe, or maybe you know someone. Yeah. Or for example, if my heirs are my mom and dad right now, and they wouldn't have any idea what to do with my password. So maybe you assign someone within the WordPress community who you fully trust, like Remkes. So everyone, everyone gives their password to Remkes. And so they know what to give it to. Don't burden your, you know, the people who you leave after you die with things they don't know what to do with. Yeah, like Dropbox sync. Yes. Yeah. So these are all just normal best practices. I'm glad to hear that what happens after you die also, you know, the same thing applies best practices. Yeah, swap it. Okay, so who else stores backups in a bank? Because I wonder how many of us stored them in a bank? Yeah, yeah, yeah, somewhere else. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. But you can do two hard drives at different locations, maybe a cloud. So you have like, there are several cloud backup sources. Exactly. So another city, another country outside of Ukraine, like also important. I want to wrap this up. Does anyone have any additional thoughts that they didn't have the opportunity to ask? Say, yeah, Mars. Exactly. Exactly. So maybe we can build something on the moon or like with the seed bank underneath the sheath of ice in Norway, I guess, to store all our data separately. If you have any coming thoughts the coming day, let me know. I would love to write something down about this so people can access the best practices that we shared. Thanks for coming to my improvised talk.