 Hello everyone and thank you for joining us this evening if you're in that time zone or afternoon wherever you are Welcome to the final in the series of movement strategy implementation lightning talks In our session today. We have three speakers I will call out our speakers. Please just raise your hand and wave when I mention Your name Anthony is joining us today. You'll be speaking. Hello, Anthony. It's way Good Also joining us today is Mali from Wikimedia Norway Mali, please wave and also Nikki is joining us from Wikimedia Wave Nikki Anthony is joining us from Wikimedia Tanzania. We use a group In our session this in our session today, um, we will be you'll you'll listen to our speakers talk about You'll listen to our speakers talk about their ongoing projects They'll be Speaking about their movement strategy projects. These are projects that are happening across various communities currently And these are super tangible projects. You might have asked yourself the question if movement strategy is happening What does it look like and what does it actually mean? So in the session today, you'll hear about people who are leading or co-leading on these projects And you'll also learn about what movement strategy actually means in very practical terms Listen out for thoughts that our speakers will be sharing As they share about future goals and projects This is where you might find some inspiration or where you might find opportunities to connect collaborate or even develop some ideas for projects within your own community Some quick reminders that as you're listening and something comes to mind If there's anything you'd like to ask our speakers today, please drop the question in chat And when the speaker is done, we will ask the question or we will raise the question at the end At the end of the session each speaker will share their project challenges learnings and future goals So feel free. Yes as they're speaking to drop in your questions. Without further ado, we'll go to our first speaker this In this session. This is Anthony. Anthony over to you Thank you so much Yop As Yop introduced me, my name is Antoni Intervango from the Wikimedia community user in Tanzania And in my little background is that Um, I joined the Wikimedia movement six years ago And for this time I have been working together of collaboratively with other East African Wikimediants In case you're wondering what are the East African Wikimediants communities? We are about 11 countries Geographically, they are together and some of them are near Near to the East Africa region. So we term them as East African Wikicommunities and these things Tanzania, Kenya, Uganda, Rwanda, Burundi South Sudan, Ethiopia, Somalia, Zambia Botswana, Congo and others so, um When I joined the Wikimedia movement and after realizing that there is this community within our region I realized that the challenge is We lack the collaboration and the coordination among ourselves in regard to Collaboration in doing Wikimedia foundation projects So next slide So the challenges that I saw and we saw and we are trying to solve or address Is community You know in the region we have like as I said Like 11 countries 11 which communities but only three of them are the Recognized user groups, which is Tanzania, Uganda and the Congo So we saw there are An equity in different scenarios such as capacity building and resources Distribution among these communities. So we decided to work together and in 2019 Two scenarios happened We had an in-person capacity building in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania and the same week we met for we met for movement strategy Summit in Kampala, Uganda That's where we now started like coming together. Okay guys, we have to unite and You know explore Some common challenges that we can solve together so Also, we I did some resources that can be and help us to solve the issue of underrepresented languages in our community or in our region currently we have so here is A unifying language that in most of these communities they do speak But here we have other languages that are not represented on the wiki platforms So we are working together using swiggy as a unifying language to make sure that Other languages as well that are underrepresented are being digitized So Is that In relation to movement strategy We are trying to experiment With new methods of community engagement, which is the establishment of East African Journal and the thematic hub regional meaning geographically were somewhat Located in a same area Plus the nearby countries Also thematic for the sense that we have a unified word which is swahili That the same time we thought there is a need to work together around Okay, next slide Yes, so what we learned from Working with these communities was that Speakers of endangered languages Have different ways of speaking and writing. So sometimes it's difficult to engage them collaboratively. So we're trying To reach each community individually through this project Which is east african regional and thematic hub Trying to understand what are the basic needs what are the basic problems The communities are first in areas also The Unstandardized the languages have different Varieties are difficult to deal with Sometimes when you are crying like okay, these communities are not represented in languages these languages sometimes They do lack You know written materials that can be used to digitize them also There are our fellow community members users of sign languages sometimes we are like difficult to engage them in one of the one or two of the Which is Assisted slide on areas Yes, so our future goals and the Projects that we are working on is we are trying to bridge the content And this is uh, we are working in the area of innovating in free knowledge to see what are the big What are the basic level of new ways that we can come up with To tackle the problem of lack of content depending on our local african languages As well as on swahili So we are trying to bring participation in bars From the underrepresented communities by having a structure that Act as an umbrella for all of us to learn Share knowledge share resources and so on Also, we are trying to see what are the topics that Are the matters to our region and as well as uh, as I said innovating free knowledge Coming allow people to come with new innovative ways how we can solve problems in our region east africa Next slide Yeah, so that's natural. That's what I can say and that's what we are doing in east africa currently And to finalize our project currently is only the phase of planning and research We want to investigate more we have we want to do some more detailed research to understand whether the people in east africa being called the east african region on the thematic hub And the what do they think whether it can be a solution to their problems So if you will have some questions, I'll be happy to answer later I can in here for now. Thank you back to you. Yo Thank you very much, antony definitely interesting to hear what's coming out of Um, the research at the moment and how you are planning Um to engage with the communities further down the line. Um, it would be nice to see how The east africa group or the east africa region Sort of comes uh comes together at a later point and what People end up prioritizing I do have a question, but we'll save that for the end of the session for everyone who's listening Don't forget while the speaker speaking don't you can drop in your question And I'll ask those questions When they're done There are no questions when I see in the chat at the moment So we'll go straight to our next speaker And that is nicky nicky over to you Thank you. Thanks for the opportunity to share today And I am working as part of the movement strategy and global relations team at wiki media germany And in that capacity I contributed to the project that we are talking about today And that project is called the capacity exchange Can you go to the next slide? Thank you So the capacity exchange is Which right now is being looked at for doing in europe, but we're also um The concept can be used anywhere and it can be scaled to any region Or in fact to the entire wiki media movement at some point Um So the idea Is Was developed in response or basically comes out of the movement strategy recommendation number six where it says Develop a peer matching platform so people can exchange capacities with each other And capacities here means skills knowledge Resources All kinds of things that you as median may have no Or have access to That another wiki median might benefit from so The idea is really that The wisdom and the experience and the knowledge is in the movement And we just need to find ways to find it And the way Is that we're trying to do that is by creating a a platform So I am dealing with a cat here. That's being very Um so The the the ideas to have a platform the way you can go on and you can enter your information Both files And then And then vice versa that My people who are looking for knowledge for tools for templates A coach or a mentor um Our grant writer example So Basically the exchange facilitates finding each other and then what happens after that We haven't really thought about that part yet too much But what happens after that is basically up to the people so they can support each other So Where we are at right now with this project is we have created a What software developers call a minimum viable product So we have used an existing software platform. That's what's called the open educational resources world map And have to change the categories and The word and some of the interfaces in it It's our own cloud. We can media cloud And we're like this close to having users test it We have to do a few things and a few translations But definitely Next know that two weeks from now we'll have a smaller user group test it and then We also have a little clinic at the wicking yet summit in september where other people can test it And that we do that we can receive some feedback both on How does it work does it make sense to feel all right? and also So for the user experience as well as And on the categories that are in the platform um Once we receive that feedback I think we see the project moving to the next stage where we will probably need some more software development You know improve it make it better launch it for basic hallway comedians want to try using it And i'm finding a fiscal home for the for this next phase. So that's currently our challenge is to find a an affiliate who would like to Be the applicant for a movement strategy implementation grant and take this to the next level Um, and that seems to be harder than we thought To find that affiliate But we really feel like the next phases should be staffed. So there should be somebody taking care of the project and We can no longer do it with a group of volunteers or people who have A very limited amount of time to put into this I now you can go the next slide Oh, this is our logic model. So i'm not going to walk you through that because it's You're gonna have a headache and it's like really small on this too But you can find that logic model and other information about the capacity exchange and how to contact us On our meta page, of course And if you would like to be part of the test user group, we'd love to welcome you We have like a session for that on august 26. So Uh send us a A note and we'll add you to the test user group So challenges I wasn't sure if This question was about the challenges we're trying to address with our project or the challenges that we're trying to Face that we're facing as we're trying to do this project. So um But one challenge that we definitely see and that also has been discussed Um during movement strategy During the writing of the recommendations is Can we get people in the movement to use a platform that is not meta? Um full knowing full well knowing that meta does not have the features that we Are looking for in this platform, you know, we're looking for more interactive features and A certain level of curation as well. So it's not This project we don't see it happening on a wiki Because we want it to be Searchable we want people to be findable And so for for a number of reasons and also because during movement strategy Formation a lot of people who who provided input into the skills and leadership development topics said Please Use something else. Let's not use meta for this The same goes for the knowledge base. That's also part of strategy recommendation six So we're sticking our head out that window and going to see if people will accept the Not meta thing that we're doing um Again, another challenge is finding a temporary home for the project So like a fiscal sponsor or somebody who wants to write that grant and administer and Incubated so to speak through the next phase So if you are running a chapter wink wink to norway And you want to you want to run this project for the next couple of years before then I see it And that's just my vision But I see it being added to a hub at some point or becoming part of a capacity building hub So I see those this next phase as a temporary phase as well So, um That's basically what I wanted to share with you today Um, if you're coming to the wiki media summit, please join our testers if you want to um Do that before august 26 and as a message Through a meta page and we're super excited testing this This project and seeing if it can help Really sort of build the social capital and build mutual aid and solidarity and connections across our movement So we can really become a movement Um Where people have an opportunity to support each other Thank you. Oh, what I meant Okay There's only so much you can achieve achieve as volunteers um That's basically I said this, you know, we're a small group of volunteers wiki media ireland wiki media netherlands Croatia And and germany and at this point we need to move the project onto more solid footing And so we need to be clear about the resources for the next phase of the project But this is all sort of project mechanics. What's important is that we try this and that wiki medians Make use of it Thank you. Now i'm done All right, um, thank you very much niki. This is an interesting project. Um, and you know, uh, I I did get the opportunity to look through um the diagram that um Was too tiny and complicated but for anyone who's interested, I would say take the time to look through that diagram It's a really interesting theory of change. Um, is the way I would put it Um, niki, would you agree? Uh, it's a really interesting theory of change I think um, anyone would do well to take a good look at it, especially if you're um, sort of interested in uh skills in capacity exchange at some level And interested in seeing how your communities can find the best tools and resources to build their own capacities Um and see how that would work taking a systems lens approach within the movement. Thank you very much, niki For sharing that. Um, we will uh, do we have any questions? I think we do have one question here There's one question from tila. Can you can you read it or should I read it out for you? Oh, it's super tiny. Yes, I can read it out. I think I can read it. Um I Zoomed in I got found the trick on feed loop and you can zoom During a session. Uh, so the question niki is regarding not using meta for their project Could ms forum be useful for you in any way? And if yes, how? Hmm Um, I think not because we're we're that's a it's a different Animal, I think ms forum is a forum for conversation Whereas the capacity exchange is basically a database So it's a database of um Of people and organizations and skills and resources um And so in the in that sense, it's not a social network Um, I think I can see it, you know being complementary to the forum for sure And being complementary to the knowledge base whoever is going to hopefully build that in the near future um But yeah, I don't unless the forum has like secret Magic powers that I haven't figured out yet, but I what we're really looking at is it is creating a database All right Thank you. Um secret magic powers to the ms forum. Let's add that to platform upgrades, please Thank you very much niki for sharing and Without any further questions on q at the moment, we'll go to our last but definitely not police speaker In the section mali over Hello Thank you job. Um, thank you for the introduction and I just want to start with niki. I will follow up on that We'll definitely sign up for the user group. It sounds very interesting But for now, my name is mali. I'm from ikimedia norge and today I am gonna present to you the language diversity hub project, so You can go to the next slide, please We launched the idea of the language diversity hub last year And without really knowing what the hub is or going to be or what it is and maybe It will totally change the name Um, it's not so important what we have seen for a long time and not only we in mikimedia norge when I say we We are a group of of many people from different language communities That has been involved in the small and the new language versions of micropedia and what has been clear for a long time Is that there are challenges. There are barriers. It's difficult to be a small language and especially in indigenous language with only extra you might have in the history so There is a need in the movement to take care of those languages and When the movement strategy initiatives came and the hubs was a part of that That is like a open door we grasped it So the language diversity hub might be something else than a hub, but for now we are using that name Uh, just to have that clear And if you want to know more Uh, we had actually a presentation earlier today in one of the other tents. It was my colleague yon haral and uh, also sadik Presenting and they will go more Deep into the research we're into but um Last year we applied for a movement strategy implementation grant and We have this enormous ambition of being a fantastic support structure to make it easy for small languages to have their own wikipedia Um, but uh to get there we kind of have to know What their problems are So we decided we are gonna do We want to identify what the small languages thinks of as barriers When they are trying to use wikipedia um And to do that we decided well, we have to talk to them. So we are doing 13 group interviews Um, I mean with 13 different language communities that we have specifically chosen for this purpose And to make them tell us in their own words Um, what is difficult? What uh, or not only what is difficult but what is working we want to talk to them about their motivations We want to understand How is the process that they write in wikipedia Through this we hope to find Specific technical barriers that we can solve hopefully quite quickly We want hope to find things that Where we can make one solution that fits many And we hope that we might find that someone has solved something in one corner of the world And that solution can be shared amongst other because that is when We are a hub because in the end the hub is Bridges and multiple bridges where traffic and information flows freely So this very much resonate with what nikki has been talking about that we are And I actually I wrote on what you said We have so much knowledge and wisdom in this movement But we don't know how to make it flow well to the ones who really need it and With all the language barriers that are between Those smaller language communities The flow is even harder so So that's it challenges We want to see the barriers that are limiting Smaller language communities to really thrive on wikipedia to really use those fantastic tools that we have We want to explore how we can be a hub a multilingual hub moving between all the continents and all these languages And of course we want to work towards knowledge equity and equity in decision making we want to make The money also flow towards where it needed So it can be used in the way that is best for the communities In whatever ways we can do that so of course everything that Anthony was saying earlier today is I mean we are all we are so many actually working with the same issues, but we are on so many different levels and That is definitely also a challenge. We are trying to Be a part of the solution here. How can All of us that are working with the same thing come together And build the same bridge instead of building many small bridges and not knowing about each other Um Yes, please the next slide And I'm sorry if I'm talking too fast. I have a tendency to do that Uh, what have we learned? Well, we haven't gotten too many research results or interviews back yet So I don't have any like concrete Problems that we are going to fix Uh, but what we have definitely learned is that there are so many other groups Thinking the same thoughts Working towards I mean wanting Something like this language diversity hub Um And we see that we have to do a lot of work aligning To make sure that everyone is included and to make sure that everybody hears About us too. So we are not establishing tons of similar structures When we could actually work together Um, we are getting good feedback Uh, so we are sure that a structure like the language diversity hub Is needed. Uh, but of course we are very open to Develop it further and of course that is what this grant is about. So We are very open for everyone who wants to join for everyone who wants to Um tell us share an idea Yeah We have one more collaboration Going on with wiki tongues. So we have gotten a grant Together with them And I want to invite others who want to do projects and are not sure How to do it alone to to Contact us and maybe we can do stuff together Yeah, because the collaboration is a key here Can you move on please? um Yes, so the the first um The first project the first goal here now is is to be a loud speaker amplifier I feel Uh, especially in the beginning of this process. Um, that it was very common to say We have this problem. We have put it in fabricator. We have been saying this needs to be fixed And no one listens It doesn't come through it Is not prioritized because maybe it's a tiny Little group or a person that don't know enough people that are saying it and they don't come through so we hope that We can be that kind of amplifier to put all the voices together to make sure that um The technological solutions are being prioritized to make to make Changes changes faster to suit the smaller language communities and I have called it short term and long term It might be the wrong terminology, but At least a short term goal is to be bridging the gaps in content bridging the gaps in in participation for wiki projects by Finding solutions to make more people being able to participate. So that is something that we are Working on that we will be working on all the time and and more when we actually know what might be limiting for people The long term goal with this whole project is that it's an independent structure We are many and i'm not going to start naming names because i'm afraid to forget someone but We have handpicked um, like an interim steering committee last year after we organized the arctic notes conference We have chosen people who have Knowledge who have passion who have a track record who have worked with um language diversity for a while so We knew they knew a lot and they had issues they had things they wanted to be fixed So they have already been saying this needs with and this needs with an um And the long term goal is that wiki media and nori gay is not going to be the the the horse pulling this wagon It's an independent unit within our movement that is governed by good democratic structures as a proper wiki media something so um It's an honor to be in a tiny little affiliate up here in the North not so cold at the moment, but colder than most of the world Uh, and to be able to pull this forward like Cornelius was mentioning earlier. This is an important Thing for our movement and I look forward to set the sales and and see More people aboard and see where we are are gonna reach Yes, I think that was all for me. Yep. Thanks you for listening and I look forward for questions Thank you very much as well. Mali. Thank you so much. Um, your work is always super interesting Um, and always definitely interesting to learn. Um, what you are learning as you're speaking and Engaging in our communities Um, I'm looking in the chat. Do we have any questions? um I see one from tiller Is that a question? Oh, okay tiller just added some more information. Um for those who might be interested All right, so we have 15 minutes Uh to go in the session today. I do have a few questions and don't forget you can drop questions in the chat for us because I'll come back to you Anthony From what you shared earlier on while you shared about what you were learning I'm curious if there are any further insights on the users of sign language Um, you mentioned that they're difficult to engage with Are there anything is there anything that you're finding? Are there any pieces that are coming through doesn't have to be Hello, Anthony. Did you get my question? Sorry, yop. I think there was a delay a bit. Can you repeat again? Okay, um, so the question was about you know from what you shared about what you're learning Um, you mentioned about insight. You mentioned something about Users of sign language Um, I find often that sometimes we we mentioned languages sign language is not on that list too often It's like yop is breaking up Is yop just frozen for me or is it all for you for you guys too? Okay for all of us Um, Anthony, did you get the question that uh, she was trying to phrase? No, okay. Anyway, you're she was asking about Language speakers and why it is difficult to work with them and what you've learned about working with them All right. Thank you for the So if carnarius, can you rephrase again the question from yop because she didn't break um She she found it very interesting. She was about to say that the she was interested in the insights on the users of sign language and um And she said uh that you've mentioned that they are difficult to engage with you have said this and so Do you have any ideas how to engage them? in the wikis on wiki all right, so, um, I said, um One of the areas that you are seeking to work on through this project that we are doing currently which is african and one of the matters Is trying to invest on the area of innovating in a free knowledge So the wiki media movement so far is trying hard to include the one within this movement uh irrespectively of the physical status or mental status or something so it becomes Something interesting to find out. I don't have answers yet But it is one of the things that we want to find out through this project like how do we bring this knowledge language gaps Through these people who are not conversing with through the national ways that we use so What I can say is Maybe after this project we can come up with some ideas from people from the community members Because that's what exactly we're going to do engage them Listen to them. What are the other problems facing communities? And how do you think this thing the innovation or the? Regional arithmetic hub can help them So We are trying to find out. I don't have the clear answers for now But it is what we are trying to find. How can we make everyone inclusive in this movement? I don't know if your point did answer your question And at some point it's uh, it's interesting Yes, it's an additional point You find that there is You have the You want to include people maybe let's say on wiki editathons Create some content or something But the problem is how do you communicate with them? How do you teach them? We the trainers ourselves. We don't know Sign languages And there is a real scarcity of these people who knows Sign languages But I hope and I have confidence that As we go As long as we we set some good environment for these people to be found to help us on these areas Someday At some time we can include them on this movement in any way So let's stay tuned for that for innovative ideas around that area. Thank you. Thank you Thank you. Thank you, Anthony. Yes, it's like you said like you said What we're all learning and I've spoken You know with the few people from other communities for instance, um, Tony and carol um In mausadonia trying to address a similar similar issue. I think my network is still a bit problematic But if you can hear me Cornelius you Uh, I know you have a question for mali. Maybe you can ask that I can uh, yeah the question I had was I'm I was interested how you as a as a We can be at Norway as the as an affiliate in And the so-called global north in europe will ensure equity In your future hub structure when dealing with small language communities that um, let's say Yeah, and the so-called global south. How do you how do you Manage the implicit or explicit power dynamics Do you have an idea for that? Yes, yeah, yeah, it's a very It is a very good question and it's a very It's something we are very mindful of constantly So when we were putting together the the steering committee, we were trying to I mean, we were really looking to have a balanced gender global south different kinds of communities and so I'm not sure if it can ever be perfect But I think the most important is that to keep that constant. I mean to keep asking ourselves Who is not represented now and who needs to be here and who is not at the table? and And be actively asking because it's easy to be Easy to be compliant and say hey, but we are doing a good job and this is fine, but we always have to be just Um asking the questions here having the discussions within the group Um At first we are a very privileged country up in the north But an advantage is that we also are a pretty small language. We are good in English Um, so that's a huge advantage being in norway, but we know how it is to be small in some parts. We are Nobody else speaks Norwegian. Why would they? Um, we have two written languages in Norway So we can always, um, somehow know how it is to be kind of on the sideline But we are so privileged in so many other ways and we are trying to use that privilege to Lift up the other voices. So I hope that it will not be me presenting this for many years in the future We need We want others to be representing And we have that. Um, yeah It's a good question though Cornelius No, thank you. Thank you. I hope that's share more next next day as wikimania like interesting to see if you could Besides the work on the hub And share these reflections On that level on that question because I think that's something many others can learn from Um Okay, um, sorry about that. I was saying yes. The conversation is super interesting. So it was um, nice to listen to you um, both and interesting thoughts there Mali John who's um, John who's in the chat says there's a test wikipedia in american sign language In the wikimedia in cubata and there's a link there It would be good for By the way, yarn works with Is coal of coal project partner with Mali on this project. So He's just sharing some updates some more updates from the project Um, I do have a question now for for you niki This is you know, just regarding the next and the plans for the capacity exchange program Um, you you put out a call to action for affiliates that might be interested in in taking this forward. So I'm curious Um, while I know, uh, Mali has said yes Others who might be interested What might an affiliate consider or put take to you know, um What are the criteria what would be needed? What kinds of capacities might be needed to implement this this work and Um, besides perhaps interest, yeah, but what are you looking out for? Um, what do you think of an affiliate should think about if they think of taking this forward? Yeah, I mean We're certainly open to to anyone who feels passionate about capacity building and you know wants to take this forward I'm hoping that we can find an affiliate with asking capacity so One of the things we talked about in the capacity building working group Is that capacity building initiatives for the waking media movement are always so fleeting and they're never sustainably Funded and and they're never sustained and you know Somebody does something on meta and then some people fill it out and then it's gone again and um, so There was a very strong sentiment that this needs to be Um, sustainably funded and for me Part of that is also Sustainably staffed So a person who's more than a contractor, but a person who has some job security through the funding And has you know, maybe a two-year time frame to take it to the next level um That would That would be ideal Obviously, we can't always have ideal so we'll we'll see what happens But I'd yeah, I'd like to see that sort of sustainability and continuity and stability mostly I guess for for the next phase of the project and Yeah, so so an affiliate who has you know, the ability to hire a person and pay benefits and And sustain this project for a couple years all right, okay sustainability and Making sure that this this can be handled for the next couple of years I would You know, we have about two minutes to go and we're about wrapping up on this We'll just sort of throw out something open to our speakers today. Um, if there's mali if there's anything you'd like to Based on the conversation so far And what you shared Yeah, I just I want to pick up this on sustainability from nikki because That is one of the things we see that When we as an affiliate can run can push this language hub forward We secure that sustainability for a while to get it going so For other initiatives, um I see that I mean that is a huge advantage that we have and we are very grateful and very Conscious and I see that yeah for other strategies as important super important to secure that So, uh, I hope you find it At least contact us And Anton Yes, thank you Thank you. Yes. I have something to say And it is the one thanks To my fellow colleagues, uh, who are the core team? on organizing or working on east african regional thematic hub Douglas is a burglar and the weenie cabinte. They have been supportive also to thank all communities that are involved East african communities I encourage them to be staying tuned for the upcoming research and planning For this project. So thank you. That's all from me for now Thank you to antony and final words for me niki My god the pressure Thanks so much for this for the session I want to thank the cobalt conspirators and this capacity exchange project And I hope to have lots and lots of more to join us. Thank you All right Who's listened in today? The session slides will be uploaded on comments and have been uploaded to the programs as well Feel free to reach out to the movement strategy and governance team to discuss any inspiring ideas you might have for For your community Thank you. Cornelius Throwing out some questions my has been my partner and support in all three lightning talk sessions And I tell you it wouldn't go as fantastically at his as gone as it has gone without Cornelius So thank you so much Cornelius. He's the man and the voice behind the slides Um as well, uh, don't forget you can also reach the movement strategy and governance team. You can reach us via email Um at any time to discuss your ideas discuss your plans that are related to movement strategy implementation