 We are riding from Abu Dhabi to Emirates bio farm where this wonderful minister of environmental sciences and also of a climate change, Maryam madam is also there and we are having a small event but riding here at no time. Temperatures are over forty, I don't know, around forty-four I think. Road is hot, engine is hot, the seat is getting very hot, back loads are hot, I'm the only cool one out here. What to do? Everything else is hot. Seat is getting really hot, not able to sit so we took a break. There are no words to describe what it means to be back in India. Well, the safe soil movement has picked up momentum across the world and it has become the subject matter of various governments right now. Seventy-four nations have signed up. Many European nations have already invested large sums towards soil regeneration. Three months ago nobody was talking about soil. Today the world is talking about soil thanks to the support of the people, the media and the volunteers all over the place who work hard for this. Seventy days we've been on the road, fantastic to be back in India. For Highness Mulsura today to have amidst us the saviour of the soil, the one and only Sadguru. He feels sometimes in the middle of the high seas is water, water everywhere but not a drop to drink. And well I'm very sure that Sadguru will not let this statement be ever made for the soil. Seventy days on the motorcycle still living. This is India seventy-five. At least let's wake up now and ensure the future generations, the fundamentals of their life at least must be in place. That is rich food, clean water, pure air to breathe. But if you deny this, this is a crime against humanity. We must turn this around. I'm drinking tea the Gujarati way, okay? Too sweet for me, Gujarati. The sweetness of Gujarati people should not go into the tea, should stay in their hearts. I was really happy to interact with Sadu. Ladies and gentlemen, let's have the loudest round of applause as we welcome the lone rider, dear Sadguru, the one that has single-handedly taken up the difficult cause of safe soil. Come on Poonawalo, thoda aur zordar swagat hojaya Sadguru ka. Let's continue with the event. As the custom, we begin every auspicious occasion by lighting the traditional lamp and that is what we are going to do to get started with the rest of the event. Like the traditional lamp, may I invite Sadguru Jaguwala Jati Vasudev to please join us in the front, along with Chairman of the Lokman Media Group, Mr. Dandaji, Managing Director of Lokman Media Group, Mr. Devan Dandaji, along with extended family members of Lokman who are also strong supporters of the Safe Soil Movement, Mr. Sushakakli, Founder President of the Gravitas Foundation, Mr. Adul Goyal, Chairman, Mr. Sajay Chodhya, Chairman of the Suryadatta Group, Mr. Jay Chok, President to P.L., Mr. Avalokra, Founder President of Topworth reality, and Mr. Santran of the Editor Lokman Surya. Please come. Don't be out of the cameras. You have to come. Now it's time to welcome Mr. Adul Goyal, Chairman of the Suryadatta Group, and Managing Director, Mr. Devan Dandaji, please. And Sadguru, the highest form of respect given in Pune, is by presenting the Pune. Chairman sir, we present it. We request Mr. Adul Goyal to please welcome Sadguru with a token of love. Mr. Adul Goyal has written a book, Real Rich, and that is what he will be presenting to Sadguru today. Yes, Mr. Abhay Loda, Founder President of Topworth Group, present a book of flowers and show our love for Sadguru. Come on everybody, let's keep the applause going. Another token of love that we'd like to present from everybody on the dais to Sadguru. A huge, beautiful garland. All right, we have the save soil placards coming up. We're going to take a quick picture of the entire group holding the save soil placards, Mati Vatswa. That is why we are all gathered here today. Thank you very much. May I request everyone to please be seated and may I now invite Chairman of the Lokmat Media Group, Vijay Dardaji, to please address this august gathering. A journalist par excellence, a politician, visionary, a dynamic entrepreneur, and a spirited social worker. Please put your hands together for Vijay Dardaji. Thank you very much, Mr. Abhay Loda, Founder President of Topworth Group, for the time being. We assured you that we will try to bring the sustainability in the community of the farming, and also we will see that the karma elimination goes down. Here, my son, Devendra Darda, is also sitting here. I would like to mention here, Sadguruji, that this is the only publishing house in the country who is publishing his newspaper on completely on solar, all his editions, dual editions. Not that, but the Devendra has promised me in couple of years, we will come to a zero carbon emission. That was our, go to our readers. I am sure, Sadguruji, in your hectic schedule, you have given us the time, you have precious time, given everybody opportunity to be with you, get some movement, some inspiration from you, and for that I am grateful to you, I will remain grateful to you, and we will be with you. All right, I think everybody, let us have a standing ovation for everybody, all our dignitaries on the stage. For Sadguru, I am sure that over two crore readers of Lokmat across Maharashtra are pledging their support to save soil. May we request Vijayji Darda, Mr. Devendra Darda and Sadguruji to please wait back on stage as we get started with a chit chat and to do that, we have someone very special who has come down to Pune. Ladies and gentlemen, may I now also invite the very gorgeous and talented Kamiya Jani, who we all know as India's best travel discovery, food and recommendation platform by the name of Curly Tales. I am sure you know that name much more, so let us have a round of applause as we welcome Kamiya Jani on the stage. For conversation with Sadguru along with Vijayji Darda and Devendra Darda. All right, we would like to take a quick picture with the placards of four of y'all once again before we start with the conversation. Thank you, everyone. May I request y'all to please take your seats and let's get started with the conversation. Can we have mics for everybody? Sadguru, I wanted to request you for chanting. Friends, very warm welcome to all of you. It's a pleasure and privilege for us to welcome Sadguruji on Lukma's platform. It's very rare that we have someone among Amitsha's who's loved, respected and revered by millions around the globe. So we really feel fortunate and proud to have him here. And while we are sitting here to have an interaction with him, I think I am very small person to question him. It's not appropriate to question a master. So if I may, I will make some humble queries with your permission. So Sadguruji, we've seen recently you've achieved a huge tremendous feat of traveling almost 30,000 kilometers. It's been literally a ride of your life and you've been spreading the message of saving the soil across the globe. As a mystic, as a yogi, we've seen your work of inner well-being, inner engineering. If I may, how did the focus shift from save our soul to save our soil? One person who never talked about save your soul, because that's very foreign to us. In India, in this culture, we never talked about saving the soul. That is a trick. I will save your soul. People have been promising, they will save your soul. Some people have even been promising that if you give all your wealth to them, they will keep it in good faith. And next life when you come back, they will give it to you. So I have not done such things of telling people I'll save your soul. The important thing is see, unfortunately, truth offends most people. If you're straight out truthful about everything, it offends people. So you will have to clothe it for them to hold the hand of truth. It doesn't need any care, any protection, any preservation, definitely not saving. So saving the soul is a trick. That's been going on unfortunately in outside India but now it is in India and everybody has picked it up because you don't know where the source is. So everybody picks up this thing, saving the soul. A lot of people are mentioning this along the way. They were saying this in European nations, I could understand, but even in India they are saying it. Maybe because save soil and soul have a similar spelling. So let's leave the soul business because your soul, if there is one, you don't even know if there is one. If there is one, it definitely doesn't. Something that's not physical need not be protected and saved, isn't it? Only the physical nature needs protection. Only physical nature needs preservation. That which is beyond physical, does it need anybody's protection, I'm asking. It's like save your god. What's the point of that? So, but soil is a different matter. Soil is the source of our physical existence here. When I say the source of physical existence, it's not only in terms of food and nourishment. You're very making, the very evolutionary process you are rooted in the soil. There are over a trillion species out there in the soil. There are replicas we have noticed only up to fifteen, but there could be probably a million, we don't know. That is, there is one super minute microbe. Exactly same, there's a slightly bigger one. Exactly same, slightly bigger one. Like this up to fifteen we have noticed, but people think there could be hundreds or there could be millions because this is the evolutionary process. It got bigger, bigger, then got more complex, more complex, then it became like you. This is the whole thing. So the very foundations of our existence is there to put it in context. See, somewhere around a billion years ago they say, the estimation could be a right or wrong, but somewhere around a billion years ago, for the first time some fungi or algae discovered how to cook their food using the perpetual energy of the sun. You are, I'm telling you because you're running the press on solar. That phenomena today we refer to as photosynthesis. Before photosynthesis as a phenomena started on this planet, the approximate or the average oxygen content in the atmosphere was only a shade over one percent. Today it is twenty-one percent. You and me are alive only because of twenty-one percent oxygen levels. Now this is not just about breathing. The complexity of this life happened and became possible only because of enhancement of oxygen in the atmosphere, not only us. The more complex lives, the mammals and others became possible only because of increase in oxygen level in the atmosphere. That happened because of photosynthesis. But in the last thousand years, we have removed over eighty-five percent of photosynthesis on the planet is gone because seventy-one percent of the earth's land is plowed because it's under agriculture. Four point two percent is paved because it's urban and industrial lands. So totally seventy-six percent of the world's land is either under plow or are or is being paved in the form of roads, in the form of cities, in the form of industry, four point two percent of the land. So totally seventy-six plus percentage of the land there is no photosynthesis of any significance. In your city here and there, one tree is there, that is not really of any great consequence. It matters to you because you can go stand under the shade. It matters to me when I'm riding one tree shade makes a difference. That's different but ecologically it doesn't make any significant difference. So what I'm trying to tell you is the soil and the soil organic activity is the basis and the foundation of our existence. Who we are right now is only a consequence of that. It is knowing this intrinsically from our wisdom, we call soil as mother. When we refer to something as mother, not necessarily a woman, when we say something mother, today we use the word motherboard, mothership. When we say mother, everybody understands it's the source. But today we are referring to soil as resource. Every one of us have fed upon our mother's breast. Shall we call her a resource? The day you call your mother a resource, you have lost the last thread of humanity within you. It's gone. Your mother is your source, that's why you refer to her as your mother. When you say soil is my mother because she is the mother of your mothers. But unfortunately, today we are treating it as a resource. What has been shocking for me in the last two, three years is, I have spoken to various agriculture ministries across the world and at least eighty to eighty-five percent of the nations still treat soil as an inert substance, that they can fix it by adding nitrogen or phosphate or this or that or whatever, that it's an inert substance. No, soil is the largest living system in not only on the planet, in the known universe. Nowhere in the universe is there such a thing. But we are calling it, we are treating it as an inert substance that we can do this. Even in our country, largely most of the states think it is an inert substance and they can add something, take away something from it. It's a living system. You have to keep it alive. It has come to us in a living form. That's why we have lived reasonably well. We have to pass it on as a living system for future generations. You can't just pass it on as a dead thing. In some nations they even call soil as dirt. If it is dirt, all of us are dirtbags. So soil is the source and not a resource. That's an important message we get from your explanation. Satguruji, somewhere in your interview previously with one of the channels, I heard you mentioned that the organic content in the Indian soil is somewhere around 0.68 percent and the minimum required to define substance as soil is approximately 3 percent. So how do we bridge this gap? Are we to depend only on the government? Is there something that all of us can do here? What's your guidance on that? See, right now the most important thing is policy. Without policy, if you and me start doing something individually, it's good but it's not a solution. We have… you know, we have transformed in the last 27 years about 130,000 1.3 lakh farmers into tree-based agriculture. Their incomes have gone up anywhere between 300 to 800 percent. Soil organic content has come up significantly. Water tables have come up. Everything is great. But still it's not a solution. 130,000 is not a solution. Now we are working in the Cauvery basin which accounts for 83,000 square kilometers and 5.2 million farmers. Even if we manage to do that, it's still not a solution because soil ecology needs to improve globally. These state borders and national borders mean nothing for life. It's only a human problem that we draw a line and we believe this line is absolute. For the sake of administration, okay, you rule that one, I rule this one, is a different matter. But you think this is absolute. The planet is a piece of… is a cake and you have cut in these pieces and you're going to take your own piece and go away somewhere. It's not going to work like that because the microbial life is a global phenomenon. It needs to happen that way. This is why this movement is a global effort to change policy. Unless every nation does that, there will be no significant difference. Why I'm saying this is, see even if you improve your soil, let us say you have thousand acres and you make it fantastic. Even if you do that, it's good. No, I'm not saying it's not good, it's good. But right now, according to UNFAO on an average, 27,000 species of organisms are going extinct per year. At this rate, it is estimated that somewhere between twenty-five to forty years from now, it is possible that this slide, which is happening right now, will go into tumble. Once it goes into tumble, there's nothing you can do. So if your thousand acres is very rich, you may survive for another two, three, four, five years more than the rest. But it will also hit you because microorganisms cannot be cultivated just in your thousand acres. It needs to happen all around. This is why policy change is very important. The problem why these things have not happened, the way it should happen is there is no strategic approach. Everybody wants to roll up their sleeves and want to do something today. So what will you do? You will go and fix your kitchen garden. That's very cute, but that's not a solution. So first thing is we must decide, are we doing this for personal satisfaction, or are we doing this because we are genuinely seeking a solution. For me, it's about solution. For me, I don't need any personal satisfaction. If I close my eyes, I'm finished. I don't have to do any damn thing in the world. So I don't need to do these things to prove something or need to do this for my satisfaction. Because as a generation of people, we have a tremendous challenge in front of us. At the same time, we have a great privilege that if we act now, in the next ten, fifteen years time, we can make a significant turnaround. But if you let this go for another twenty-five, thirty, let's say forty years time, after that, even if you try, however hard you try, you will not be able to turn this around. Because the whole world is driving towards a famine. I think the supplementary question, forget about the international community, but let's take about our own government, and recently you had an interaction with our honorable prime minister. So what do you think about the thoughts which you are getting right now? So what was his view on this? See, he is one of the first people who came up with what is called as the soil health card in Gujarat. But people did not really take it seriously. An attempt was made, but it did not become a common thing. There were many issues in it. Many things were not sorted out in the sense. See, one thing is the soil card is generally talking about soil only as agricultural soil. We are not talking soil as life. Okay, to grow this crop not enough nitrogen, so let's put nitrogen. To grow that crop not enough phosphate, so let's put phosphate. In this, this kind of approach, this is like the modern allopathic system, okay? So you go there and your doctor says your calcium is not good, so throw in calcium tablet into you. Your iron is not good, put one iron tablet into you, like this. So this approach to soil, it is okay if you are just addressing one farmer like this, a particular land. But when you're addressing the whole nation, this is not the thing, the important thing is the soil organic content has to rise. That means you must be eating good food, you must be healthy, and top of it, suppose we find your vitamin C is little less, we will give you a pill for a month or two. That's how fertilizer should be treated in a doctored fashion. Right now we are simply throwing it without any other input, any other input means, see what is the… how this problem has evolved, let me tell you. See there are only two sources of organic content on the planet. This is something very important for everybody to understand because wherever I go, especially young people say, my friend has come up with an app, Sadhguru, it can solve all these problems. See, it is like you have food apps, what's your food app in Pune? Swiggy or Zomato? Swiggy, Zomato, Uber, whatever, whatever. Now a lot of young people will start thinking, Swiggy produces food. No, no, Swiggy delivers food to your doorstep, it's a service, we appreciate that. But somebody is cooking it somewhere, somebody else is selling it, somebody else is growing it on the land. Essentially it comes from the land. Whoever delivers it to your doorstep, it doesn't matter, it comes from the land. This is generally forgotten in the sense. See, when we talk about soil organic content, what we are talking about is food for the microbial life. Microbial life is the core life on this planet. Without us, this planet will flourish. Without them, nothing will flourish here because they are the life. We are a consequence. Human beings don't like this. How are we a consequence? We were the ones who were made in the God's own image. All right? No, they are the core life. We are a consequence of that. In many ways, the topsoil is like the cream of this planet. It's come to the surface. Generally, if there was no human footprint on the planet, to create one inch of topsoil, living soil, it will take 600 to 800 years. But with the present level of human footprint, it will take 13,000 years to create one inch of topsoil. But in the last 70 to 80 years time, we have destroyed nearly 50% of the topsoil on the planet, just in less than a century. In less than a century, we have destroyed nearly 50% of the topsoil. This is the most irresponsible way to exist. But nobody wants to talk about soil. Even in the international conventions, everybody is trying to catch carbon dioxide molecules in the air. I thought you breathe oxygen, right? All of us breathe oxygen. Nobody's talking about oxygen. No photosynthesis means slowly oxygen is depleting. And we're talking about global warming. All of you don't go by what I say. Don't go by what you read here and there on internet or whatever. Just walk outside somewhere in open field, where it's simply bare and open. Just touch it and see what is the temperature. Just go where some grass is growing, touch it and see what's the temperature. Little bushes are there, touch it and see what's the temperature. Big trees are there, touch it and see what's the temperature. You will understand what is global warming. There will be a temperature variation of anywhere between eight to twelve degrees from open dry land to what is under a big tree. So twelve degrees of variation. Is this not global warming or global cooling? But no, everybody wants to knock the oil industry, coal industry, automobile industry, because there is money there. Let's come to the point. Because there is money. Nobody talking about soil. In international conventions, nobody talking about soil. For the first time in COP 15, when I made soil as a main pitch, everybody is sitting back like this. I said, why? Is there… is there something wrong? What is the science? Why is the science talking about it for last fifty years and nobody is talking about it? Everybody is walking on the street shouting at somebody or the other. This is not about somebody. Every one of us, knowingly, unknowingly, are partners in this destruction. The only way to turn it around is every one of us become part of the solution. So what can we do? What can we do? Well, I don't want you to get… there are many things you can do but I don't want to talk to you about that because you will start doing self-satisfaction activity. Maybe you will fix your kitchen garden. For many people who live in apartments, their kitchen garden may be two pots. One with some flowers, another with tomato. One tomato hanging there. All right? So you go and fix it and you feel, I've done my job. Because people are telling such things. Somebody… I'm telling you, when I was doing this Cauvery Calling movement, I went and met one of the top industrialists in this country. I don't want to name people. And when people go and say, personally I did not go, somebody went there, our volunteers and they said, this is happening and we need your support and we need your voice for this. He says, I use only half a bucket of water for my bath. I don't have to do all this. Please use two buckets and stay clean, yeah? Using half a bucket of water has nothing to do with ecological thing. Right now, this is a serious mistake that urban populations are making. They are misunderstanding civic issues as ecological issues. Right now there is filth in Pune city here and there, plastic bags are floating around. This is not a necological issue. This is a social responsibility issue. Right now there is… you are using… I'm just joking with you. You are brushing your teeth only once in three days to save water. This is a civic responsibility issue. This is not an ecological issue because ecologically even if you turn your tap and leave it running twenty-four hours of the day, doesn't make a difference. Socially as a city dweller, it makes a difference. It is a burden on the city infrastructure. That's a different matter. Ecology is a different matter. Ecology means it's a life on the planet, the source life on the planet. The source life on the planet is microbial life. They need food. They can only eat organic substances. Organic substances can come from only two sources, plant life and animal life. There is simply no other source. You can go search in all the planets on the… in the solar system or anywhere in the universe. Except for plant life and animal life, there is no organic content anywhere. So there has to be plant life and animal life on our farms. Right now farm means brown piece of earth. If you… if you don't understand what I'm saying, fly from Delhi to Chennai. Every five minutes you look down, you will see a brown desert across the country. Except for western gods and northeastern part of India, rest of the country looks like a brown desert simply because in the last fifty years, we have gotten rid of the cover crops. Cover crop was a simple thing every farmer was practicing. In the summer months when we are not cropping, we used to put cover crops of legumes, pulses. We used to change this year on year or we used to put mixed cover crops. Just leave it there maybe a little bit for the animals. We also used it as a fresh vegetable sometimes in cooking. But the important thing is it went back into the land. Every year 1.5 to 2 inches of humus was building into the soil. The word human comes from the word humus. If there is no humus in the soil, human will not exist. So this twenty-seven thousand species going away, this cannot be fixed by you and me fixing something around us. Whether we fix just one pot or we fix ten thousand acres of land, still it won't make a difference. It is good. It is good locally it'll make a difference. But the real thing won't happen because when the microbial life starts collapsing, everywhere it will go. Because the species are all in communication and in tandem they're happening across the globe. Namaskaram Sadguru and Namaskaram to Pune. I really like to thank you on behalf of Pune for making a pit stop while on your way to Sholapur which is about 400 kilometers, a really long ride. And as a traveler the first thing I really want to ask you is you've been on wheels for the last hundred days riding over thirty thousand kilometers. I take two flights in a week and I come back with a back ache. What is that? And you've been riding a bike that weighs about 450 kilos riding through Europe, Middle East and now India. So how are you doing and how's your back? Oh, this is an advertisement for the yogic back. There's no back problem, back issue. Sadguru, a follow up to that would be how do you take care of yourself? What is it that you eat? What's your diet like? Because we all would want to do things that you are doing at your age. Oh, I wish I had choices like that in my life. Most of the time I've been traveling, so generally what comes my way is what I eat. Food and sleep never comes on time. Never does it come in the quantity and the form that I want. This has been life. See all this thing about you want to eat the perfect food and you will be healthy. This itself is a sickness. Overly concerned about your health and your well-being all the time. Itself is a sickness. But does it mean to say you should not eat well? You should. Well, not everybody's life is organized like that. Some people can eat on time, sleep on time, do those things. But our lives are not like that. When it comes, it comes. And in number of times my dinner is at one a.m., two a.m. in the morning. So, so generally I organize myself in such a way that I, you know, in the last probably fifteen years, twenty years, just one meal so that I have a little more control over it. If I eat like everybody else, three meals, I don't know when it'll come all over the place, it'll be. So I organize myself in such a way it's generally one meal so that reasonably it is coming on time. But not when I'm on a travel like this. About the choice of food also, it is more about, see, food is about one thing is definitely it should grow in rich soil. It's very important. There was, when I was eleven, twelve years of age, I went to, I don't know if you've heard of Maladi Halley Swami, the Yogi. So the only thing daily is one day ragi ball, another day javar ball. There are two types of maize. So three days ball, that ball and greens, local greens, whatever that is there and some pulses mixed. This is it. One big ball and this thing. Well everything that is, that you need, your body needs, it is there in it. If it is growing in a reasonably rich soil, now you're eating food from soil where the nutrients are almost gone. See, this has not been measured in most nations. In United States they have measured these things and saying the amount of micronutrients that was present in fruits and vegetables in the early twentieth century to now it's gone down by ninety percent. You heard me right, nine zero. Ninety percent less. Only ten percent is left in it. If you ate an orange in 1920, today if you have to get the same thing, you will have to eat eight oranges. So the weakness of the soil is also the weakness of the body. So there are many ways that your own microbial strength is taken care of because your body is sixty percent microbial life, only forty percent is parental genetics. When sixty percent is microbial life, you must keep them happy. Right now it's post-pandemic time. Anything that you cannot see is dangerous right now. No, most of them are very good for you. There are a trillion species. At least scientists are saying, I don't know how far these numbers are right. They are saying only fourteen hundred types of viruses and bacteria could cause harm to you out of a trillion, out of one trillion. Fourteen hundred is not even a number, isn't it? So I think we are overly concerned about health. You must eat something. The traditional food in your area, if you eat, you will be healthy. It is just that are you living intensely or are you like a potato sack? That's an important thing. So I was riding to Bucharest. I was to get there at seven p.m. and there was a television interview. But because the weather got very bad and the road surface was not as expected, so we got delayed and I got there at eleven-fifteen in the night. The anchor and the team were still waiting, the television crew. So I walked straight into the interview, nine-and-a-half hour ride I had and went straight into the interview. One-and-a-half hours of interview, finished around one a.m. and then I was chatting with him and this guy says, «Sadhguru, at this stage after nine hours of riding and then you're talking like this, everything is fine with you and you look fine. How is this at this stage? At this stage he mentioned this stage three times. I thought that is enough. I said, I said, see I've lived my life so intensely. I never had the time to get old. You need lot of time to get old, isn't it? When you don't have time, how do you get old? Sleep rest is important. Restfulness is important. See when you just sit here, is your body restful or is it jumpy? There's a question. Right now you take my pulse. I've been riding and all this, but it should be somewhere between forty-five to fifty right now. But if I sit quietly, if I sit quietly it'll come down below forty. So the body is in a restful condition. So it will not need much sleep. If you're on a high rpm all the time, obviously you'll have to rest. So you'll have to sleep rather. When we say sleep, we must understand this, sleep is like a temporary death. Hello? You don't like that word? Sleep is temporary death, isn't it? If you sleep eight hours a day, that means you are going to sleep off one-third of your life. All the best. But can I do that? So it is about how you keep your system, what kind of fuel you put into it, what kind of fuel. Right now what I see is the moment people can afford little, whatever they become little wealthy or reasonably comfortable, they will eat twenty-five different items in their meal. This is sure death only. Yes. Are we eat only one item in a meal? Because the stomach understands the language. It doesn't want to handle complex things. Simple things which release energy quickly, that's what they want. So if you want to eat one cereal, this meal you eat only one, next meal you eat only that or that. No, in one meal you want to because I go and see in these buffets these days, there are twenty-five to fifty items and everybody is taking little bit of everything and eating. This is a sure way to hospital. Yes, even I want to eat healthy but you know world is a very difficult place to live in like you said. There is Sezwan, Masala, Dosa, there's Idli, Chilli, Cheese, Pao Bhaji, lots of temptations there. So, why did you say world is a difficult place to live? There are so many wonderful options for food like Masala, Cheese, Sezwan, Masala, Dosa, Idli, Chilli. Do you never get temptations or cravings of eating unhealthy but delicious food? Oh, in Pune, where did you eat a good Masala Dosa? But like a fusion Masala Dosa. No, no, if you come and eat my Masala Dosa, you will become my slave. Oh, love to try that. Yes. So, I'm sorry, they're reminding me there's another 260 kilometer ride and there's one more event before that, three and three thousand students are waiting somewhere. Please tell me what's the next question. How do you manage your time? Very aptly put forward. We all think we are busy, but clearly, you know, you are also doing multiple things at all times. How do you manage your time? See, for example, crafting a movement like this till third of January. I have not even spoken about a movement like this to the Isha teams, the volunteer, the core group who manage the foundation. I have not even told them there is something like this coming. They're all going about doing their normal management of the foundation. So, only on third January, I announced for about fifteen to twenty people who are in the core group saying that we want to do something like this, which is a shocker for them. What internationally we're going to do this movement? Just like that, in the month of March, March 21st, we must start. That gives us two and a half months. No, Sadhguru, this is not possible. Next year, 2023, we will do it. I said no, 2022, it's fixed and we're doing it. And to the larger group I announced in the Mahasivaratri, which is the first of March, so only twenty days left. Well, the whole movement has gone seamlessly across twenty-seven nations. Seventy-four nations have signed up. We have covered nearly twenty-six thousand kilometers without a hitch and we have moved according to social media metric, leaving the WhatsApp. WhatsApp we do not know. Two point eight billion people have been reached through this movement. Well, how does this happen? We must understand this. Are you making your liver function right now? Your liver, I'm talking about yours. Hello, it's okay, I can talk about your liver, right? Are you making it happen? No, I'm not. Are you making your heart beat? No. So everything is happening to you. You just have to really be here in the right condition and receive the bounty of life. About that you're making a big fuss. So there is an intelligence here which makes your liver work, heartbeat, neurological system work, whole complexity of this body function. There is an intelligence here, no? Which is not yours? Hello? So why are you not using that when it's within you? The moment you use, don't use that. The world is a bloody difficult place to live, otherwise it's just a breeze. Sadhguru, last question, which I feel is very important for today's time. You always talk about the peace, harmony, but in the recent situation we have observed the intolerance and hate. It's not in our contemporaries globally. How do you… what do you feel are… what are the solutions for this intolerance? So in terms of intolerance or tensions between communities and nations and things, today it is much better than ever before in the last thousand years. Much better? Much, much better. Otherwise, just look back on the history of human history for last thousand years. What have we been doing to each other? Time has changed, but I'm saying, are we not living much more peacefully and harmoniously than ever before? We are. So I'm saying, a lot of tension is largely under television studios. If you walk through the streets of Pune, you won't find any tension. I travel across… If you travel across the country, you will not find any tension. There will be a few hotheads everywhere. In every country they have their share of idiots. We have our share of idiots, all right? On every side, I'm saying, who are hotheads who are always looking for something because their relevance is only when there is some kind of confrontation or conflict. They are only relevant at that time. So they are on. So I'm sorry, sir, but you… you are a media house, but I'm telling you, I think the media also should make a serious effort to project the positive aspects of the nation and the society. I have never read your newspaper, but I think I can never read it because it's in Marathi. Me learning that language and reading is long way off, but I do not know what is the nature of the thing. I know, but you've been here since pre-independence time. So there should be some sense of responsibility about the country and the emotion about it. But largely, most media in the world, not just in India, is always looking for sensation. See, you want to get to the front page of a newspaper, you want to be in the headlines of all the news channels in the country, you just have to go and stab ten people. They will put you like you're a superstar. No, that guy should be handled by the local sub-inspector, not by the national media. Hello? I know, I'm okay. I know they are in a rush, my team is. They are concerned about me. But let me finish this. See, that should be handled by a local policeman. He knows how to deal with that guy who goes about stabbing somebody. You don't have to make him a national hero tomorrow morning. He is in the front page of every newspaper, he is in every news channel. So all frustrated idiots, if they want to get to the top, all they do, you see in America it's happening all the time, teenage boys going and simply shooting up people because just the two minutes limelight. Now they've taken this as a policy. American media doesn't show the images of those people because that guy shouldn't become famous. But always it's been so. In India it is still so, we must stop this. Such people should not be given any media space. Local police should deal with it, right? There are many wonderful things being done in the country. People are building the nation at various levels. When somebody builds a business, they're building the nation. When somebody builds different processes, they're building a nation. But will they get any media space ever? So we need to change the way we look at life. We are talking about tension in the country. No, I'm not saying in one particular media, I'm saying generally in the country, we must see this that even in terms of India, now I know this is coming from where because of the last few days of whatever is happening in the country. But you must understand when I was growing up in late sixties and seventies, almost every two months there would be a major communal right in the country. Across in Karnataka, in Gujarat, in UP, in here, there all the time. Have you? Yes or no sir? You know sir. Has such things happened in the last 10, 15, 20 years? One or few, unfortunately have happened. A few have happened. But not at that regularity. It's kind of subtle. That means in many ways tension is going down. Let us all work towards a solution. Let's not keep on scratching the wound. There are wounds in this country. There are deep wounds in this country because this country has been invaded, it's been occupied by people for nearly a thousand years. So there are many wounds. But don't go on scratching the wound. We'll allow the wound to heal and see how to go forward, isn't it? You can't fix everything from the past. Some things yes, but rest of it, we need to go on because if you go on scratching the wound forever, it'll become a cancer. Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Satguru, Vijay Darda Ji and Devendra Ji and Kamiya of course for doing the honors. May I request Satguru to please present a statue of Adiyogit to Vijay Darda Ji, Chairman of Lokmath Media Group. We have Mr. Jay Shroff here. He was stuck in traffic earlier. Request Mr. Shroff to please present a book of flowers to Satguru. Also we take this opportunity to thank the Lokmath Group for being such a gracious host. With that ladies and gentlemen, let's all pledge to save soil. Together can we all say save soil? Everyone ready? Together we will! Together we will!