 We're tired! A three times Super Bowl champion. Coming to a TV booth near you, you, you! They already saw you saying that you would never look good in another uniform. So will you continue to look good in a New England Patriots uniform? I think that is a fact. I will always only look good in a patch uniform. But I will no longer look good in a patch uniform going forward. I'm officially retiring from the NFL. I'm happy for them, but I don't like it because it's playing at such a high level. Why now? I need answers joined right now by newly retired, out three-time all-pro, three-time Super Bowl champion, and a good friend of mine, Devon McCordy. How are you? I'm good. Don't hurt yourself. Don't get too excited. I know it's my first time on here. I love your repping. I mean, it took too long if you asked me, but you've been busy with another great season. You led this team in interceptions this season. Dev, a lot of things to talk about. You're still playing at a really high level. Why now? I would say first off, I wanted to always lead the game, not being like an absolute bum and just thinking it up out there. So for me, mentally, I just had enough. I think it was the point at the end of the year. I kind of knew that I probably was going to retire, but I think I needed to make sure that's how I felt mentally and then physically, seeing that my body wanted to give it a go, but having surgery, getting at a point in my rehab where it was time to start working out and getting ready for the season. Again, I just didn't have it in me, and I knew at that point, probably the last week and a half, two weeks that I was going to make this decision and then I was just figuring out what the best way was to go about it. But I'm excited for what's next, and I'm excited to look back and just have a couple drinks and just reminisce about my career and all the good times. I mean, you have a couple Super Bowls to choose from. I asked these kind of questions to Gronk when he hops on the show. So what is that one memory that first pops up into your head? Like, if you had to frame, you have these frames with your beautiful kids and shout out to them in Daku I love and adore, and it's probably supporting you through this retirement process that can't be easy. What photo are you putting in that frame from your entire illustrious career? Well, that one behind me is a pretty good one at the Super Bowl, but it's there's a time when we beat the Rams in Super Bowl 53. We're on the sideline and confetti starts to fall and Jay Max on a knee. I'm just standing over top of him so excited, so happy for him. So I would say if someone said frame a moment, I'd be that moment. I think I have a big shout out to Jared Rita and our video department took that picture on the sideline. Great picture that to me really captured that whole year of watching a bum like Jay Max come to our team, get his first Super Bowl, and I got to just witness that as a big brother, it was an awesome feeling. And you held the Rams to three points, so it doesn't, it's not lost on me. You would pick, you would pick a 13 to three low scoring. I'm not taking. Sposefest of a Super Bowl to be your absolute favorite. Okay, so you're, you know, the tweet was it's not about the, if something about the journey or where you're going, what is the destination? You have this retirement announcement, which is so cool and amazing that you do it to your brother, Jason. He's clearly focused on his career, which he is crushing on Good Morning Football, which you visited recently. Let's manifest this thing. What is the ideal situation for Devin McCourty? Well, right now it's a good another job. Like you said, you know, Doc's supporting me through this. Doc does not want me home. She hates, but I have extended time at home. I'm at home still being a captain trying to run the show saying we should do this like that. Why are we not waking up earlier? So she wants me gone. So I'm hoping with, you know, making a decision now retiring that my name could be thrown in there for somebody's TV jobs. Just get an opportunity to go out there and just improve. You know, I think that's the biggest thing from watching Jay. I watched his first ever show on Good Morning Football and then being on with him this past that past week. It was just so cool because I'm like, man, this guy's actually good at this. Like he's reading the telepompter going back and forth. I'm like, where's this guy from? Like, how did he get this? So it's just for me just getting that opportunity. I'm excited about it. And I would say that's what's been pretty cool. I didn't think when I signed back to New England the last couple of times that there would come a point in my career that I'll be walking away from football will be so excited about what's next. It's just, I think, hard for us football players to imagine. So to be at that point and to know that, you know, there could be some good things ahead for me is very exciting. And, you know, I'm ready to kind of take on that challenge. I mean, I think your brother learned it from you. And don't talk about how you just realized you're good at media when you worked with me 10 years ago. That was just a random Monday. It was a random Monday. We would pull up to a quick slant. I would have come off a big Wednesday. I had a good time. Roll through a quick slant. You would come with all the energy and candy. We just go out there and share time. We show Tom Korn what to do. So that was good times. That wasn't work though. Yeah. Do you want to do a million things? You do something already. You have a good rep, like camaraderie with guys who are really innovative in the media space. I know that. You could do your own thing. You could do the I am athlete sort of vibe, brand of Marshall thing. You could go work for a network. You're just open to everything. Is there something that you prefer? Do you want to be in the booth? I will say right now, I only got to do that for 10 minutes at the broadcast boot camp that the NFL puts on. Last March. So I'm not a hundred percent sure. I'm most comfortable right now doing the studio shows that I've done. And then eventually me and Jay do want to get back to, you know, I don't know if it'll be the same kind of structure that we had our podcasts going before. But we do want to get back to being able to do some type of podcast or scripted series, something like that of being able to kind of bring out something else that, you know, guys are doing. But, you know, I think between, you know, the pivot and I am athlete, like they're crushing that space. So it's been fun to just watch those guys and see what they've done. So just trying to build off that and kind of use what we've done all of these years and find a different avenue to kind of be. And we have to mention the new hides podcast because you got two brothers there who are skyrocketing rushing the top of these media charts crushing it. So I saw Travis Kelsey last night at an Oscars party here in LA and I saw one other NFL. I mean, Travis is Mr. Hollywood now. Here he is eating an in and out burger. I'll ask you the other guy that I saw that's in an NFL royalty world. Guess who I saw last night at the Vanity Fair Party. Was it Edelman? No, that's such a good guess. I shouldn't have given you options. I saw I saw your I saw one of your favorite people, Robert Kraft, someone who you have so much respect for. And I love seeing him. He's a bright light. He's incredible. And listen, most people don't spend their careers in one place and most people in the NFL have short careers. You did your entire 13 year run in New England. How special was that to you and that relationship with Robert Kraft? He interrupts your press conference. It's so beautiful. Yeah, it was awesome. And I think not only the play there, but the ability because of the extended time being in one place to get to know, you know, RKK, Jonathan, Dan, Josh, like all his kids and to be around their family to me was probably the best part of that. And, you know, towards the end of my career, all some of the special moments for RKK is 80th birthday party is wedding as Jonathan was going through the invitations just think of just to think of me and send me an invite and be able to be there. And, you know, obviously they shared in a lot of great moments for me on and off the field but to, you know, kind of be able to do the same thing as a friend has been awesome. So just being able, you know, from your time, you know, that you spend a year up here to be in this area, just this team, the fans and the fan base like they look at you as like man we love this guy because he was loyal to New England he stayed here. And for me that's been awesome these last like probably month and a half two months of just walking around everybody would see me and a black, what are you going to do you got to give us one more year you have to. So just being able to enjoy that and I love this community is whole New England community has accepted me and I've been able to grow and do so many different things. It's an honor for me to look back on my career and say man for 13 years. I got to not only play here but I got to serve a community that accepted me and was grateful and I was grateful that they accepted me and you know everything that I learned from the New England community. It's really well said and I you know you're talking about this and I'm thinking about free agency and it starts in an hour and I'm thinking about a guy like Levante David who's such a stud played every year of his career in Tampa Bay. He is that he's facing this decision of Tampa doesn't really have the money do I go there on less money do I go take more money somewhere else and and it means something to be in that where company of just playing for one squad. And if you're going to see this or watching this like that's going through his head you were loved up there and are loved and will forever be because you were the heart and soul of the Patriots defense. Tom Brady did his thing and you did it for for all of that. Let's check out some of that leadership on display courtesy of NFL films. As you look around this circle this ain't our plan. We didn't all think we'd be here. You thought you'd be going to free agency. You could have went anywhere. You battled to be on this team. You was in Detroit. You thought you was a billy. You didn't know you'd be back. You got trained in here. You thought you'd get trained. I thought I'd be gone. There's a reason. God plan this fellas. Let's dominate. Take advantage. No tomorrow. Let's dominate today. Dominate on three. One, two, three. Where was that energy Mondays at NBC Sports Boston? I already used it Monday morning. That was the problem. Insane. That is so insane. I would say this. I remember, I think it was my second year. We had veterans, my rookie year, Brandon Merryweather and James Sanders, who really led all of that and led the team. And then the next year they were both gone. And it was kind of me and Pat Chung. And anybody that knows Chung, Chung's looking at me like, I'm not, I'm not getting a speech and talking to guys. So I just remember being in that circle and being like, man, I don't know what I just said to these guys. It was probably terrible. And then I would say being around Matthew Slater and seeing the preparation, seeing the thought that he put in any time he talked to the team. I would say moving forward. I really looked at that time with those guys in that circle as an honor that other men would look at me in a circle. And I would say, man, I can't wait for this guy to get me going. I took a lot of pride in that. And I want to deliver. I want to give them, you know, the extra to go out there and play and remind them why we were going out there to play together as a secondary. And, you know, I think for me, that's probably one of the things I cherish most, the secondaries I played in, because there was so many close connections. We knew each other's kids. We knew each other's struggles. We were there for each other. And to me that, you know, call it minute to two minutes that we got was kind of highlighting why we were going out there to play together and the plan was to go out there and dominate and look good and play good together. I love the idea that you just like black out when you're doing that. Just go out there and have a great game, which I love. Matthew Slater, I believe is coming back for his 97 season this year, which is one of the wildest stories in the NFL because he's such an inspiration. There's no one more beloved than him. But outside of him, who are you handing the keys to that Patriots locker room from a leadership perspective too? I think two guys that stick out for me always think defense, but, you know, obviously I'll start because I feel like if I don't mention this, everybody runs with it. Matt Jones is going to be a leader of the Patriots. He's a captain. He's a quarterback and Dave Andrews. And then obviously the other captains this past year, Richard Wise and Joanne Bentley, but I always like when I get that question, I think the captains are obvious. But I think other guys like depending on what works out with Jacoby Myers and Jonathan Jones to me are two guys that have a ton of leadership qualities. But I think they remind me of myself and I'll throw Kyle Duggar in there as well of you have leadership qualities, but there's leaders all around you. So you don't need to do that. Like it doesn't make sense for you to talk after, you know, either I talk or Slate talks. But I think those guys will now look around and be like, all right, we got to replace the energy, the passion that Deb had when he spoke to the team. And I think those are some guys that will step up depending on how free agency works out. You know, Jay Jones and Jacoby are gone. And I think Doug will look around and say even more now like, hey man, I know I'm quiet, but these guys need me. I know the process of not meeting and who. I expect some of those younger guys at a home grown to really step up. Deb, you're too media savvy. You didn't fall for my Mac Jones thing by, you know, leaving him out of that answer. But are you telling me? Well, you can't, but listen, there's a lot of controversy around Mac. There's a lot of criticism around Mac. So you and how we handle things and what he's like, what do you mean? Cause he's demonstrative out on the field. He hasn't, you know, like he had huge shoes to fill. That's probably why. Are you telling me that Mac Jones is the future of this franchise? Yeah, like, so for me, I don't understand. I'll say this, all these young quarterbacks come in and it's like, they get crushed right away. Then we watched jail and Hearst, we give him time, develop. And now everybody's like, did you see the soup bowl he had? Man, he might have been better than my homes. And it's like, yeah, he got drafted for a reason. We see Tua down in Miami. We finally get some stability around him. Get him with Mike McDaniel, the guy who's run offense, been in San Francisco. Oh man, he's actually a good player. And I look at Mac, who came in, came in as a rookie under Josh McDaniel's show. So much promise, ended up in the Pro Bowl as an alternate played really well for us. Gave us a chance to go compete in the playoffs, which wasn't, didn't go well at all, but gave us a chance to be in the playoffs. Two years removed from the greatest quarterback to ever play the game. We were back in the playoffs. Like you never hear of that. Then last year, it's kind of like a new kind of testing things out with, you know, Maddie P and Joe judge kind of running the offense, which it didn't work. And, you know, the bad thing for Mac is a lot of that goes right to him. Like he wasn't good. He is his fault. His fault. And I just don't see it that way. I think he's a young guy who now get a chance to be with Billy O, a proven offensive mind in this league. And I think he's going to go and I think he's just going to skyrocket. Especially when they get DeAndre Hopkins, which they better do, build, build, better get that kid for Billy O. That would be nice to see those two reunited. Dev, the other thing I'm going to say is let's cut that tape off and send it right to ESPN, to CBS, to NFL Network, to whoever. Because the way that you got just so heated for Mac Jones, I could listen to that all day. You were amazing. You'll do whatever you want to do for now. Relax, have a couple of beers, reminisce and enjoy yourself. I mean, you're ready to party. Come on here with me and Gronk and Edelman. I like that idea. I might come out there and hang out. Thanks, Kay. I would love that. Much love to your family. Thank you and congratulations on an incredible career, one of the best guys on and off the field. And Mac Jones, who knew? All per quarter, but better than Tom Brady. That's what Devon just said. Better than Tom. I'll do that to me.