 Welcome to JSA TV and JSA podcast where we're covering the latest stories trends and innovations in the digital infrastructure space I'm Allison wheeling and joining me is Augustino. Yeah Chief technical officer and VP of engineering and sustainability ambassador for Scala data centers Augustino Welcome to JSA TV. Thank you for having us. Thanks for having me as a matter of fact. I'm flattered to be here So Scala has experienced a remarkable journey and rising to prominence in the Latin American hyperscale market over the last three years Can you share what factors contributed to that growth? Number of factors have contributed, but I would like to point out at least three of them First the fact that we have followed the playbook where we focus on mostly on hyperscalers In single-town buildings. It's a process pretty different from our competition Which has tried sort of have a hybrid approach on mixing hyperscalers with enterprise clients, which are very different clients So the fact that we have been sort of focus pure play Has allowed us to sort of differentiate ourselves Secondly the fact that we do Built the plan as opposed to built to order, which means we don't wait for everything to be secured in order to start building That kind of gives us a head start because this is a this is a business about time to market time to market It's really the utmost thing this business more important anything else So you're able to have something readily available for a client It's really King it really determines whether you get the D or not and thirdly the fact that we're very Verbalized in the sense that we control soup to nuts in this business We have 900 employees. We have more than 400 engineers more than all of our competition combined So we're able to basically Design and build by ourselves basically, you know, we don't have to resort to third parties and that gives us a lot of Flexibility ability to build faster in a build to customize very quickly. Yeah, all key factors Customization and keeping that in house. Yeah, so AI is a hot topic How is Scala? Utilizing AI to keep up with the growing demand for high density computing power It's interesting because at the same time AI is benefiting us in terms of demand but To your question. It's also something we need to leverage as a tool There are a number of ways we're seeing I the most basic one is resorting to Computer vision to basically Control-ass access to sensitive areas like mechanical rooms electrical rooms and such Going upwards we are using AI for things like Pre-processing Basically technical proposal, which is something that's very time-consuming of our engineers so that we can actually Screen a technical proposal be sure adheres to a technical specification And we're also being a pioneer in using a generative AI to actually do designs Just to give an idea Test fit which normally takes three to five days to do to assess the constructive potential of a plot of land We now are able to do it in seconds Okay, and we're now moving to the stage where we can do conceptual designs Which normally take up to two weeks again in seconds We expect to be able to do that so this year and probably next year we're gonna start doing BIM building Information model probably using journey to the eye as well and BIMs might take weeks to design and again We expect to be able to do it in seconds. So this is kind of impact we expect from AI So it's not just something that providing a work list for us providing demand, but also something that's really changing in a very revolutionary way with the way we work and How has the adoption of AI influence the skill sets within the data centers for your employees? I think it influences in the sense that you're gonna have people more sophisticated People might tend to think that because we are you can actually have less educated employees, but it's actually the opposite because You have more other automation, but on the flip side you need to have more critical thinking Which means you're not gonna leave everything to the computer to the automation You actually have the final decision also has to be made by engineer be at the operation level be it at the design level At the end of the day, I want to have a human being review what's being done I want to just remove the toy or from their workload from their time I want to really Save their time for for critical thing critical thinking for noble things. Well, yes It requires a different set of skills in the sense that we actually have need to have more educated people Yeah, and what do you believe is the most profound way that AI is reshaping the industry and what broader Implications does this have for the future of data centers? I think The two more impactful ways that I can think of is first as I mentioned the fact that we can mechanize a number of things Be it in design being operation being in processing a Technic proposal and so forth. So again removing the toil in making us more productive and secondly may be most important the fact that it has increased tremendously our Comparative and growth rate, you know, I mean the the event of chat GPT open AI last year was a black swan event That has basically taken the industry by storm like it has created a backlog of three years of construction So like our presentation just heard today earlier. We all have our jobs secured for three years at the very least No, so I mean, this is probably the most revolutionary thing that has Causes obviously requires us to rethink things like cooling in powering because we used to be Copying with racks of densities of 10 to 20 kilowatts and now there are people talking about 300 and I heard today 400 kilowatts So it's a total revamp on the way you do Call me do powering of the racks. We have to rethink design But fortunately, Scott has done a great job in terms of doing future proofing of data centers of creating design more than just statement Reaction really creating designs crafting designs that we can incorporate in the data centers They were built right now in future data centers and to some extent even their centers that were rex is to retrofit them to some extent I mean, it's a key theme here at the event. It's obviously here to stay It seems like it's gonna be something that we're talking about for a while But thank you so much a casino for joining us and thank you viewers for tuning in to JSA TV live here at DCD connect, Virginia Happy networking. Thank you