 It's exactly 36 minutes past the hour and you're right on time for youth and politics today It's a big day of course to all of us And I know you are at home relaxed cool come and collected but 30 24 for we want to extend the best for you today is International youth day. How did we get all here? Let's take a look on 12th of August was designated International youth day by the United Nations General Assembly in 1999 that was the first one and 20 years down the line We have seen tremendous growth in how the youth and their affairs are looked at in the international arena Of course, we'll be looking at some of these and of course the theme of these years international youths International day is Transforming education. I don't know how much we have feared but we'll be looking in details. Of course with my guest Today I'm joined by two young man Grayson Marwa The program of his ass here's a place and of course the chair person of G activate Thank you. Nice to have you. I sent it and of course here with the guy with the suit No, it was the blue suit. Nice to have you man. He's shot rock or morning. I student KSL Kenya Yes, I usually you know come on one year Can you really son I know it's nice to have you guys thank you. We're talking about international youth day What do you think it is according to when you hear international youth day? First of all happy international youth day to all the youth out there and I think this is a very good day for us to celebrate what young people have been able to achieve over the past one year and Each year the theme keeps on changing last year. We're talking about safe spaces for youth Yes, this year we're talking about transforming education and so it's a good It's a good event and it's been running throughout the week to try and see what young people are doing in as much as education is Concerned and I hope we've had enough deliberations. Yes, and and the celebrations today. Definitely Yes, we'll be coming to that because I mentioned something about last year What do you think about international youth day? I think international youth day is a day when the youth that take cognizance of this strides and step they have taken Yes, development is concerned and most importantly their participation as far as socio-economic and political issues are concerned All right, let's do this and of course you at home can also keep Interacting with us at Y254 channel and of course even on our Facebook page. It's not that big issue You can also interact with us. It's at Y254 coming to you Gresson You've mentioned about last year's theme. Do you think we created enough space for young people in the environment working environment? I would say it's very funny that we discussed about safe spaces a week to the international youth day But all along we've been having spaces that are not good for young people Yes, but I think after the theme last year and the discussions and the events that we had We're trying to create environments that are good for young people to engage and I believe one of these Is where we can give young people platform to talk about the issues freely and especially address them with their leaders So I think we we on the right track though Not they are fully because the youth voice is always looked down upon Vigiana are considered to be rowdy people noisy people They cannot bring substantial things to the table and also there's the mentality that we are we are guns for hire We cannot say anything from our own mindset So we are still struggling but I can say also that there's some there's some effort Do you think we've reached a place that we can say at least we are in growth as parties? Yeah? Yeah, we have we have reached every way because the youth voice is now being taken into consideration I'll give an example like the BBI team. Yes had an opportunity to listen to all the young people were presenting to them So that means that the government and even the leaders are now realizing that young people are very important Demographic that you can't wish away and you need to listen to them, right? Yes You of course a student. Do you think the bodies that are in schools can really initiate so much in terms of growth? Yeah, I think we they they need and some of You've seen like for example when we look at students involvement in politics at school Yes, we see the the democratic process through which students are like the leaders and we also seen the kind of The way they are informed and the way they articulate So at least we are making some good progress at least all right So now I want us to get straight to these years theme Transforming education. We have made quite a long a long journey with ups and downs as a country Of course looking back from the corona times when people used to go to school because they were prominent families and they were wealthy Families narrowing it down all the way coming to today when we're talking about free primary education and secondary education to some institutions Of course, do you think we have really grown to a level like we can say university needs to be free I? Think though it would be a political statement Because you're still grappling with even making Political statements Primer and secondary school because I know there are schools that kids can't go to school because of maybe 50 shillings I understand shillings or even just lunch and so I think in as much as we want to to go that way The first thing to ensure that what is already there is strengthened We have good systems working for primary education for secondary education Then now we can focus on making university better But as of now I can also say that the previous governments like the one that introduced a free secondary education Yes, that was a good move because a lot of young people could not access education now can access it And I think we just need to strengthen it and ensure that their systems working You find schools going for months without money from the government yet There are monies that have been allocated But just transferring the monies from the national government to the schools to ensure that learning takes place has been a challenge So how can we show that these systems that have been put in place work so that the young people this country do not suffer? You're prone to me to mention something about the cbc But we'll be coming and of course having a look at that because it's really engaging as far it is But before we come to the cbc this year's theme of course entails a number of things I would just want to mention to inclusive inclusive and accessible for all you that is education Do you think right now the system that we've been using us the one that we did 844 was really inclusive? Yes I think it was inclusive because For example, we have a farmative action Like for instance the the way that the boy child and the girl child Transist from closet from one is different like the marks are always lower for for the girl child So I think that is inclusive and even in terms of how how trees that that is the truth because look at it also from the Transition from from for the university The marks for the girls is always lower as an affirmative action And then when also look at the disability people with living disability. Yes. Yes, like we have a lot of schools For the special schools for people living disability So for me, I think it is inclusive and then there's not that element of discrimination. Yes, but provided you can perform well You can access all right the point of accessibility because we are looking at some of the institutions or rather the the schools There are in rural areas. They've not managed of course to get some of these things the basic things that students here in Nairobi or other counties around the capital they got do you think we've really managed in terms of accessibility for education accessibility I would say no because you find that The curriculum is the same across the country But the way that students access education in different areas varies. Yes, like there are places that are given I can I can say the environment is very conducive for them to learn But in some it's hard. So you find like you can compare student who goes to a boarding school in Nairobi With a day school somewhere in in his solo or in Mars habit There's not that accessibility for all yet the curriculum is the same but the environment or just for the environment It's not it's not fair for all. Okay, before probably we proceed There's a clip I'd like us to listen to Honour Boraila Odinga was making a mention of He's he's the he's the AUD representative for infrastructure and he was making a mention I don't know whether that clip is really is ready right now. So as we can have a look at it He was mentioning of course about what some of the things that we need to be doing I don't want to think about infrastructure before we go to the Okay, let's first of all listening Highly presentative for infrastructure development in Africa At the UNEP headquarters in Nigeria as Kenya joined the world in marking the International Youth Week It's here where Odinga warned African countries that youth unemployment was a taking bomb that can only be diffused through extensive education reforms if the youth are Left completely unattended to an education without skills Then they become a drug on the society They become drug addicts delinquents and criminals But if they are empowered with proper skills Then they become a proper force for wealth creation in a society He said Africa must create an environment where employers and education providers work closely to design curriculum that meets business needs Education mismatch with the industry remains a big challenge Well, they are more educated young people looking for work Employers say they cannot find the skills they need The labor market is suffering from this Significant skills mismatch the annual week-long conference that ended on Friday was organized to take stock of strides made in empowering the youth Today Kenya joins the world in marking the International Youth Day. All right That's the speech that was given by Honrabah, Rayla or Dinger Of course on Friday last week and he was making a mention of the some of the things that we need to do in terms of infrastructure growth Do you think we have really made a growth in terms of infrastructure development? Infrastructure in general I would say we are we are we are trying as a country though some of the things that are happening Political because you find that the day when a road is being launched It's not to help the people or they don't really want to launch that fraud But they are doing it to gain some something from it But when you look at things like like electricity I would I would I would really applaud because even the remote parts of this country have electricity now You look at things like schools most schools are getting are getting the basic things that they need But then we still have a lot to do especially when it comes to things like Ensuring that there is a good road system in cities like in Nairobi people suffering a lot because of traffic jam We need a lot of planning. We need a lot of planning around infrastructure, but when we're talking about infrastructure growth I'm going to look at some of the cities that we are really really looking at like Consulate city we have tattoo city and some others of course that are really upcoming Do you think young people have been given the opportunity to Grow in all these cities? I don't think young people have been given the position because first of all For you to claim that a young person has been an opportunity. They have first of all to be empowered. Yes And then we talk about unemployment So, do you think we have solved anything? I think we're trying to solve We're not yet there so but still we're making our own efforts in our own ways money to be done Money to be done. Yes. All right That's a good statement of course when you hear young people saying more needs to be done He was usually aggressive like we need to do so much, you know, but that's good Of course, we are moving on forward looking at the competency based curriculum and focusing on Kenya despite ups and downs In the education sector, we have seen several advancements from the colony times at her as I had earlier on mentioned According to an economic survey, this is what I want to listen in 2019 released by Kenya National Bureau of Statistics Expansion of university had had universities rather had seen 81 universities open between 2014 and 2017 and It stood at 168 universities, but 57 universities were shut down after they became casualties of tough exam management rules released by the education CS back then 57 universities closed down The question is why did we create all these universities in the beginning? Because you find that the few that are there if they were 10 and they have been strengthened to operate No, I've operated but the upside that we've talked about between 2014 and 2017 Yes, while a lot of universities were being opened I don't think the intention was to ensure that high education is available to to most young people It was an issue that each and every region each and every count each and every community needed a university Actually, it was it was the aim of the government to have 47 universities I would not agree without a really fault that means because how do you want to have 47 when they feel there are 10 or 9 and Really struggling to operate universities are in debt Universities are in problems a lot of students and this university is the number of Lecturer ratio to two students. It's very high. You find one lecturer has to handle around 200 300 students How many students would understand what the lecture is talking about? So the issue should have been for strength and this universities that are there They're not after we are very much comfortable with all these then we can move ahead and open very many universities You're probably to probably to come to this question about the CS for education professor George Magohar Of course did mention the other day that All lectures must be professors What's it take I Think that would be a good thing if all lecturers were to be professor because then the expertise and the experience they would Send it give it back to the students. But then the question is where we are going where we want to get the professors Where we're going to get them? Yes, the question actually is still even for me remains to be like and I'm gonna ask this to you Do we really or other can we really manage to get all the professors on board? You know our universities before even the major comes in it's possible The only thing is text it has to take time The problem I have with this government of ours is that someone just wakes up one morning and says we want full Professors within it cannot be possible within a day or within a month We need to let it be a process that is gradual and within time we are going to achieve it as he said It's a good thing, but we need to plan properly We need to strategize and we need to know how do you want to go about it? Do you think we're filling in planning because implement implementation for education seems very easy But planning seems to be pain. What do you think? Planning is the problem because we don't seem to be talking the same language You look at the fight between KNUT and TSE for example It's a fight that tells you these people are not reading from the same page We want the same thing we want the curriculum for example, but we are not we are not talking We are not discussing the minister this years would come today and say we want to do a BCD But he has not consulted the stakeholders So the issue of consultation and planning together is the problem that is facing the education industry and once that is done I think would not be having these problems that we are seeing industrial action every now and then Because even now as we go to the third time for high school and primary schools You see teachers strike it's not that they like striking But it's because the teacher service commission does not talk to them the ministry for education does not talk to them And so they feel if you can't listen to us say let's down our tools Our teachers justify to strike They are, we have already supported all their strikes because they usually have a reason to strike Last year they went on strike because there were issues with their pay There were issues with their job, job, job groups, appraisals and things like that Salaries, even this time they are justified to go If you listen to yourself and talk, it's talking about issues that are happening with teachers across this country But the thing is the TSE is not listening And if people cannot talk then it's the one inch, it's the young people who are going to suffer I don't know whether you you are affected like I was by the strikes that are usually happened during that time Because usually paralyzes the examination period and the examination time What are some of the things that we need to probably bring on both sides to deal for once and for all with these strikes that usually I think like my friend has said I think the first thing is that we need to talk And then secondly we need to have some honesty Like for example when teachers agree that they have a CBA with their employer at TSE Then we need to have some honesty and now to implement it You see when we say this today and then beyond boardroom somebody comes with another proposal I think that it is mostly disagreements between teachers and their employers that always cause the strong And at the end of it all you see it's always the students that are affected So I want us to go straight to the CBC And in 2017 Kenya Institute of Curriculum Development designed a new system of education Famously known as competency based curriculum that was laid along in the year launched by the Ministry of Education Probably for you at home it's the 26333 Of course this is what it entails Two years primary education, six years primary education, three years junior secondary education I know for us we cannot even relate to what this is Three years senior secondary education and of course three years higher education I don't want to raise my concern of this, I want us to agree on this particular thing Do you think we are doing the right thing to bring this on board? It is the right thing, it is the right thing and it's the right time for us to move that way My only concern is how it's being rolled out It's being forced on some people's thoughts There are people who don't agree with it And the people who don't agree with it are kids they call us in the education sector And so if you have someone who is an implementer of the system For example a teacher telling you I do not understand what CBC is Then you should question yourself and go back to the drink table and say yes we want to launch this thing Can we have all of you on board and discuss it one, two, three There's something you've mentioned that teachers are key stakeholders but they say they don't know Let me bring you on board about something that I was doing a research on By April this year the government began training 91,020 teachers of the CBC that is And of course another bunch went through the same Is actually going through the same right now in August Of course it will amount to 228,000 teachers How often do we say that they don't know what it's going to be? I'm not sure about the total number of teachers in this country Versailly the 200 that are going to be trained But the thing is if you hear a leader of a union saying that our teachers are not ready Just to be sure that this process is going to face a very very big uphill thing What is being ready? Being ready is people need to understand what it is People need to agree with it And the teachers that are being trained, yes it's a good number, it's a glif can number But listen to their bosses, listen to their representatives Listen to not listen to Kupert what they are saying They don't feel like the teachers have been prepared enough for the role of the CBC You know probably let me bring you on board about this issue Visually say that change is inevitable And change at times can be really really hard Do you think we are fighting between a people or rather a group that is like We don't want this change and still we have another group That is the government that is saying we need this change You said change is good and I will also say that change is good Because for example when we had we brought the 844 system We needed to do what we call some research and analysis As it really achieved what it was intended to achieve Then it meant that we needed to do some improvement So when we are doing improvement we need to change some of these things And then when somebody claims that they are not aware yet They are key stakeholders then it brings a very fundamental question You see talking as a lawyer our constitution at article 10 Provides for public participation Now we have the parents, we have the students And we have teachers and the government Parent claims we are not involved Teachers claim we are not involved Then it rolls back to the government Why are they forcing this on the people Let me ask, Grayson Yes We are talking about key stakeholders involvement Here we are talking about people not being involved How many people can today stand and say that they are not involved in this Because they stand down and agreed on the competency based curriculum It only needs one person It only needs the boss who speaks for the teachers to say We don't want CBC and that will be the end of it That's why you've been seeing them fighting Nat has a position it has taken I do not speak for them but I think their position is They were not consulted and they were not involved fully And that way they are really hampering this process And even next week there is a conference on CBC That is going to happen at Kenyatta University It would be interesting to see what comes out of that conference Because I think now the ministry is trying to bring together all stakeholders To discuss this issue But as of now this issue is being discussed by KICT And the Minister of Education And a few teachers, the 90,000, the 200,000 Who are being trained Are we late for this? We are not late This conference that I think they have organized Would be a good place to go and sit and listen to what happens And I'll be following to see what these teachers now will say After this disengagement Because as is mentioned you cannot do anything without engaging the stakeholders Definitely It will be futile And of course also looking at the strike that was announced last week Not that they said they have given some few days Before they reopen And they have said that according to institution That they have given an ultimatum of several days Before they stage a strike I think the strike they are talking about Is an issue between Nat and TSE They are having issues with job promotions They are having issues with teachers' deployment Job deductions Yes, salary deduction Deductions by TSE from the teachers And you see, I think like that There should have been a meeting to discuss this But if I've been following And most meetings that Nat goes with the TSE They end up without a solution People go there with hard stands And they say if it's not my way it's no way So I think even Nat and TSE need to reconsider And go to these meetings with an open mind With an open heart to go and sit down and discuss the issues And see how to get a solution But if they continue the way they are on the left and right We are not going to move That takes me back to the year 2013 And we had quite It was like we have solved the issue in 2013 After the long extended strike And it was like everything is now cool Do you think we have an issue between Government agreeing with TSE and Nat? I think there is a problem The teacher seems to be reading from a different script You see TSE is like a branch of government Like part of government So they should be speaking the same language The only problem is that Nat They are claiming that they are not involved You see on Friday I had an opportunity To attend the International Youth Week At the UN Yes, we did, yes And one of the directors from the institute The curriculum institute was there And they asked the question How many people know about the new CBC? Almost the whole hall Nobody was aware So it points to a very big issue Of public participation Mark you, these were the finest brains Of young people across this country Who are sitting at UN But if they tell you they do not know about CBC It points to an issue even about How are they sensitizing the general public About CBC How are they doing campaigns For even the local Munaichi machinani To understand what CBC means We cannot be talking about it In boardrooms at KICD But the people who you intend To implement this thing on Are not involved So it's wrong and it's not going to work Let me say this I have not gone for any class To be taught about the company's basic curriculum But I know something Do you think it's a personal initiative To get to learn about the CBC? I understand this First and foremost Are you certain you are to be taught about it? No, I have not I have read about it You have read about it I have read about it Can we call it a personal initiative? To some extent There is a point that it gets To a personal initiative But there is now the responsibility Of the people intending To implement it To go ahead and do it I'll give an example of the sensors I know what the sensor sees But every day in the day list There is a page that has the sensors Shooting and they will tell you It's on August 24th Yes, we know But there are still reminding people That on that day We are going to do that activity It's high time the ministry And KICD came up And sensitized the public Taught the public about CBC Let people understand When if it's media interviews Even if it's newspaper adverts Even if it's the chiefs Going to tell the people E-curriculum in end up Fanyonam Nahi Let people understand What it is Who is failing in all these? I think the back stops with the government Like you said There's need for a lot of Intensive civic education And to maybe tell the parents Because for instance One of the issues about this CBC Is that parents are going to take A very leading initiative Like for example Taking pictures of students When they come back home Helping them doing assignments Taking them through their tablets How will someone do A computer literate From the village For instance That takes a turn Alright From that point Let's merge these two together Probably pro-train agree on these They're talking today About international needs And the theme is Transforming education And now Kenya is bringing Of course the Transforming education theme Seeks to bring new systems That include the 21st century youths Do you think the CBC Education system is bringing Inclusivity and accessibility Of education? Yes it is It's a good curriculum It's something that I would vouch for at any point And we need to run out with it And see if it's implemented And now right now There are a few schools That are doing their first two The two six They're doing their pre-primary And it's a good thing Because we're giving young people An opportunity to choose What they want to do If they want to do art If they want to do music They go with it from a young age It's a good thing I have reservations About how it's being implemented And how it's being sold to us But it's a good thing So exactly We are looking at What will be happening In the next few years Do you think it will affect The current students In high school? I don't think Negatively that is I don't think there will be Any negative impact Because these ones Are actually Transit to university Then those ones I think The way it is rolled out It is face by face So there will be no Media impact We are bringing in a new system Of course as we had Al-Alan said What failed in the previous system That now we need to bring In the new system The previous system was As I said Of course the one That we all of us did That said It's book-centered It's about exams You're being taught About exams Nothing else And so we channeled Students who are generally Very good in books But out here The society The environment Is not book-friendly The environment Out here is street-friendly If you're street-wise smart You are good to go But if you're book-wise smart Very few people Would excel on that line And so the system Was meant to a way That we are forcing people To read things And there are many things That we learnt ourselves Even here today That have never And will never help us But we were forced to Read them Be good at them Get good grades at them But hey What is it going to help You out here So I think this new curriculum Because it comes in The aspect of you Doing what you love doing It's going to improve The way the education system Is going to be this country And of course Yes please Just to answer The same question For me I think This curriculum It was not that bad It was good To some extent Because for example Where I was in high school We did Things to do With drawing and design In your school Yes When was that 2012 Alright These are select schools These are the Yes They are So I think It also depended on The accessibility The question we are talking about That some schools They had things like electricity They had metal works They had woodworks They had art and craft Some schools also had Home science Where even boys Could train as chefs So I think It also depended on Accessibility And so Let's look at Kenya As a whole Most of us are Products of that system Yes Have we all failed? That's a good question Have we all failed? We haven't So at least we are going somewhere We are good So are we stable Exactly with where we are? We are Why then do we have to Change the system? Because we have a higher percentage Of people who are not Comfortable with the system According to you Do you think it will change Anything? The new system? It will In terms of skills It will Because now you will not Be forced to read about Chemistry If you don't love chemistry You will not be forced To read about mathematics You will not be able To read about what you are good at That's why They are calling it Competency best So most Most scholars are saying That countries that have Developed They take most of their time To enhance skills Of their young population Countries like Malaysia Countries like China And Singapore So Therefore I think Kenya Is also just rallying On what developed countries Have done That's why we are going For skills So at least We are going somewhere With skills Do you think right now The 8-4 system Is still within our skills? It has Especially in the universities It has Because now Universities It's even worse Because it's about exams It's nothing else Unless you are an An extra student You'd now go and get An extra skill Before you graduate And have an extra skill From there But if you are that student Of Kitabu And Kitabu You will just get The 8-4-4 And that is it Do you think The market is really To accommodate us From the 8-4-4 system Because some have really Exaggered In their lives That's what they failed And still we have Degree holders Who are saying I'm jobless Let it go fast There was a survey Done by Ipsos You would find that Something which we do here Our high school students Are doing When you take it to South Africa It will go to university Their high school Students can't do it So that tells you That our education system Was one of the best So I don't think Because we have Even this Skill program Some people will still fail So we don't say That the whole system has failed So you will first Live when you have skills Even these skills Some people will still fail You asked a question About the market The market in Kenya Is looking for skills But we are not offering Skills to our students In schools And so when you get out You are being asked What can you do best You will find I am personally Answering that question But the thing is They have the papers already They will tell you I have this I have this But the skills bit That what we are producing In 844 Is not what you want Out here And that's why we find Very many young people Out there struggling Getting a job Because when you go to the Job market They want skills They don't want the papers We are talking about An open space For last year And yet here We are talking about Transforming education Bringing them together Are we really As a country Because we have the CBC that is coming in Do you think the CBC Will transform education To give a better space Than it was initially It will Because now You have to choose What you want from a very young age If you want to be an artist You start learning that From this From pre-prime I assume And so as we grow up We are going to have a space That artists have their own space Musicians have their own space If you want to be A chemistry student You have your own space And so it's going It's going to be Clear from the one side I believe What do you think I don't know I have a problem With chemistry See chemistry was One of those Very good subjects But then I know there's One thing you like Why? To respond to The same question You see I always wonder Why employers seem Not to realize That they have a role To play in terms of skills Like when you First brought here You need to be inducted In what is To be done here And you can't have That kind of induction Without the knowledge So think Some people have neglected Their responsibility But then To offer a solution I think we needed To have had some Kind of internship What the government Has done For internship programs So then You also need to be told That they need to volunteer Most of the time Especially Immediately you are from campus Need to volunteer And get the skills yourself So we are lacking experience Because of people Who don't want to volunteer Yes, some people Don't want to volunteer Because maybe it doesn't pay And then When they take it to the job They also ask for the skills Which they claim To not have Do you think The government by itself Is supporting education As much as it is It is He's mentioned about internships I think right now The government is really Looking to offer Internship opportunities To young people But then also You look at the budgetary Allocations that are given To the minister of education It's quite something Maybe we need to do An analysis If they are getting enough But I believe The government has the good will To ensure that we have We have good systems Working for education Yes, yes Probably just To say something About their location The CS4 treasure This year We are reading the financial year 2019-2020 Where these releasing Gave 97.7 billion Shellings to support University education And 12.6 billion For Helpline Do you think 12.6 Will be enough For all the students? Good figures there The question would be Maybe we need to analyze What is the demand What has been offered By the government But help is one of the things That I think I would love the government Has helped a lot of us Out here To get education But then there is the issue Of I was talking to a friend The other day I was talking about The fines that you get If you default even For two, three days If you are If you employed So we need to have A discussion around it But I think their locations Are good in as much as Ensuring that education Is available for people At the basic level Okay Just to come on board Do you think Help loans Or rather Do you think the students Are aggressive towards Getting the help loans? Yes, students are aggressive You just need to Go to any campus Immediately When people open To the cyber cafes around People are applying for help And I think Help should also be extended For example To where I am At Kenneth School of Law We need An agreement for help To be there Help is a good thing In fact What the government needs To do is to increase it Far Alright Let's go straight to White-collar jobs That's an issue that is Really emerging all over Not only in Kenya But of course in the entire world We are living in the University with a mentality Of I want our white Collar jobs because I'm learned Do you think The marketplace right now Is ready to accommodate Everyone who is Intending to get A white-collar job? We should push The market to accommodate Everyone who wants A white-collar job People who are In white-collar jobs Tell us to go and become To help our communities Who come and she and me That's what job creators I hate it Because the person who is Telling me this themselves They have never been A job creator They have always benefited From the system Why do we want to Benefit from the system But we don't want the system To let other people Benefit from it Because you know Getting employment Is one thing that We should not even be Discussing It is a right for Young people And when they were Writing the Constitution They were very clear That employment Is a right And so if The government does not Want to give us jobs They want us to create jobs Then they need to Provide an environment For us to create jobs It's not easy To create jobs No matter how smart You have a plan No matter how much money You have It's not easy Even to start That small business Let me mention Something When we are talking About white-collar jobs That is We are also having Another issue that Has really emerged I want a well-paying job I am done with university I am straight A well-paying job Do you think That's possible right now I think The answer is yes And no First of all Let me also take it From where I left Our Constitution At call 55 At 155 Yes Contemplates that Parliament should legislate A law To ensure that Youth Among other things Have access To jobs And employment So you see It means This is a government Function It knows That this is a function That's why Concepts like White box Where you Put your ideas And you are giving loans The government Are things like The national youth enterprise Funds And the ways of hands It means The government Knows very well That that is a function That it should be Ensuring But To go back to your question It is yes and no Because Now they have said It depends on your lack Depends Depends on your lack Not on your skills Because Sometimes you find People with Real papers Like The other time The issue of Covenancy They can't access their jobs Alright Unfortunately we are Out of time But before We call it a day And before we wrap up I want to give you guys 30 seconds each What can you tell Young people For today's International Youth Day When do we begin I think I'll go first Alright I think First of all Is to wish all the youths Outside They are Very happy International And Advice Having a conversion As youths I was also privileged To attend The Youth Week At University of Nairobi Taifa Hall And one of those things That came out clearly Is the issue of Civic education Sensitizing the youth Like for example You are a musician And you do not Learn royalties From your music Like for example You have a concept And you sell You give it to somebody And then They take it away Yes Without really having The youth from it So the issue is The youth need to sit down The youth need to organize The youth need to mobilize And to sensitize themselves To be relevant Great Let me have 30 seconds We are the highest percentage In this country So if anything is to happen It has to happen with us And we have to push for it So my challenge For the young people Is that Let's push What we want to happen Let's not even think About pushing it from Nairobi Let's push it from our counties The devolved units Are there to help us Get services So if you can push For something to happen Good Grayson and Shadron Many thanks for making it Here at Y254 That has been Youth and politics Looking at International Youth Day We call it a day PEPAS GLE Tungua Education Entrepreneurship Tuesday Val is coming Injust a few Don't go anywhere