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This is good Well, yeah, well for them we give them the red light special All right, shall we begin? One two The daily technician is kidding literal man strikes again TLC has some great educational program And lemon who is convinced that I only make 90s references until I don't Jumps in out of nowhere and another 90s reference. Oh Come on stop that Tom Tom does not only make I always know Tom is the guy who makes 70s references. Yeah, see I try to I try to spread it around All decades. Yeah, sure. I'll go to Kensie and if I need to oh, damn All right, shall we Yeah, here we go The Daily Tech News show is brought to you by listeners just like me and you not outside organizations to find out how you can contribute Visit daily tech news show comm forward slash support This is the Daily Tech News for Thursday June 22nd 2017 on Tom married Justin Robert Young is in the house and we are ready To interpret the technology news of the day to help give you a greater understanding of what the heck is going on Absolutely, we are we endeavor to bring you a better world. We think better living through chemistry is a phrase that I just came up with Well as uh, was that a chemical brothers album? Possibly another 90s reference. There we go Uh, let's start with a few tech things you should know about Imagination technologies has initiated a formal sale process After receiving acquisition offers from several parties if you were like wait a minute, who are they again? Uh, they are the folks that After news in april that apple would not use their Graphics processing designs in future iphone's said that they were going to sue apple. Well, I didn't say they were going to sue apple They said that apple better proved to them that they weren't going to use their processes because they were pretty sure that that couldn't be possible And today they've initiated a formal sale process So it turns out maybe they are convinced that apple can make graphics processing without their intellectual property Hit up tim cook with that uh one last chance text message and all they got in return was a new phone who dis amazon announced that the echo show smart speaker with a screen will be available to display live streams from smart home cameras including Ring arlo nest august and more amazon introduced the smart home skill api to integrate live feeds with echo devices The amazon echo show cost two hundred and thirty dollars and start shipping june 28 That's uh felicia day's birthday The night i think it's also somebody else's yeah, you're on musks. You're on musk's birthday as well Uh, the governor of wisconsin signed a law wednesday permitting the use of delivery robots under 80 pounds in crosswalks and on sidewalks in the state This is from starship technologies The estonian company that has been testing these delivery robots in the dc area in in parts of the bay area And has been encouraging similar laws. They got laws on the books in virginia and idaho so far Uh, absolutely and uh, you know you you have to assume that they uh You know, they seem to have a good lobbying effort as well as a technology push Yeah, well i'm i'm still a little skeptical that this is going to catch on but but they're they're doing the things that will ease the road so to speak Certainly 1 000 uber employees signed a letter to the company's board of directors asking travis calinic to be restored in an operational role with the company Another group of employees is circulating a petition that calls for calinics reinstatement So 15 000 employees Uh, take that as you will, uh, you've got two efforts underway 15 000 or 1500 15 did what did I say 15 15 000 i think right thousand okay Uh, now you've got me wondering. No, yeah the verge reports that is 15 000 employees It is 15 000 employees, uh I talked to some people within uber yesterday And uh, this is fairly consistent with what uh, you are are hearing from inside I mean a lot of people believe that not only here's here's a lot of what I think the general public did not see is that uh calinic over the last few months has effectively went into the public square of uber's uh, uh hq in san francisco and literally just Got hit with the hair whip by any employee that wanted to hit him in these town hall meetings Asking him tough questions as he repeated over and over. I want to do better. I want to do better. I want to do better Uh beyond that and a bunker mentality that they feel was eventually preached by uh the the board I think that it's it's understandable For these employees to say well, hey, this guy brought us to this point Why are we going away from it because outsiders want that to happen? Yeah, yeah, uh and and the board are always considered outsiders by employees That's just the way of things because the board doesn't walk around Doing town hall meetings and and talking to people every day. So they even though they aren't technically outsiders They definitely feel like outsiders Now here are some more top stories facebook has launched a new feature in india that lets users choose to prevent others from sending Sharing or downloading their profile picture. It also stops strangers from tagging themselves in a profile image Protective profile images will have a blue border and on android screenshots of the picture will not be allowed where possible It's been a problem in india that people will screenshot profile pictures and then Use them in ways that from the just not approved to the harassing And this is an effort by facebook to combat that I'm kind of surprised this hasn't happened earlier I've had friends of mine that have had their pictures scraped and put into different profiles where people are presenting themselves not as The people whose picture they've stolen but other people who would like to pretend that they are Uh the the in this case a lady that uh that they stole the pictures from It seems like kind of a no-brainer feature But you know, I'm sure it's probably on some long list of things to eventually get to and india finally gave them The reason to push that to the top Yeah, I mean what you're talking about is pervasive around the world But it's not the worst abuse just stealing a picture and pretending to be somebody else There's a lot of other things going on. We don't know if facebook has any plans to bring this outside of india Uh, but it is something that a lot of people have been hoping would be implemented there Recode report sources tell it tesla Yes tesla the auto manufacturer Is in talks with music labors labels over launching a streaming service to be bundled with its cars Meanwhile, apple's deal with music labels for apple musics expires at the end of june Bloomberg reports that its sources say apple is trying to get a reduction of the 58 Royalty rate in exchange for a guarantee of subscriber growth so streaming remember A year ago, maybe two years ago The the the tone of the debate was streaming services are ripping us off They're undermining artists and and the record labels were trotting out as many artists They could convince to do it to hammer away against streaming services these streaming services they they don't pay enough we get Tense a hundredths of a cent per song. It's it's nothing. It's horrible until The streaming services finally reached scale Uh at which point the record labels are saying well, yeah, I mean if you can guarantee this many subscribers We'll cut that rate no problem that that that rate that we said was usurious a year ago forget. We'll make it lower. It's fine. It's fine Yeah, that was only if you were going to be a growing company. Oh, well now Well, we'll step right this way mr. Apple mr. Spotify. Oh mr. Musk is so good to see you I hear you have a birthday coming up. What if you started some music streaming we could could we interested in doing that? uh, all right real quick tesla As its own roll your own music streaming service a lot of people kind of gave this a big fat On twitter when the report broke uh I kind of think it's it's it's sort of brilliant that In my household, we already have two music Streaming services in spotify and apple music if I was really rich. I'd probably have one for uh One whose name escapes me just so I could get their album exclusives for rihanna Beyonce and jz, but Uh, if you buy a tesla, why shouldn't it come with a streaming music service as well that you don't have to hook up your phone for I'll tell you why because now I have to manage another service I don't want that I just want the service I use to be available in my car And if I switch services, I don't want to have to switch cars to make it work Yeah, but I guess the idea is it works if it's even easier Right, and I guess Is it yeah, I mean like we know how it's gonna be implemented Just give me access to the music service I have right now Make it easy you can do that But don't create a new service that I gotta sign it I know it's free. I know it came with the car But now I have to manage more playlists and move things over Wait, where did I add that song? Was it in the car or was it all my music service on my phone? No, I don't like that at all All right, I feel like you're being a curmudgeon two corrections number one jz Uh, the the music service that jz has bought into is title and number two Uh, just to correct that that uber story. Uh, we are getting uh pushback that it's Uh 15 000 employees 1000 signatures. That's what I said. Yeah, and I think I confused you and everyone else thousand signatures Yes, out of 15 000 employees There we go Just to be clear you asked me 15 000. I thought you were meaning the employees Yeah, no, no, no, so yeah 1000 signatures 15 000 employees just in case everybody's confused Good. Have we put that to rest? All right, it's rest Waymo added a filing to its trade secrets lawsuit against uber accusing the ride hailing company of contempt As part of the case's discovery process uber revealed on june 5th That back in march of 2016 anthony levandowski told then ceo travis kalinick That levandowski had five disks of google information uber says calinick told levandowski you leave that stuff at home Uh, that uber did not want the information Don't bring it to uber levandowski told uber the disks have been destroyed and uber says it never knew what was on them Could have been copies of windows 3.1 as far as they know No idea what it is waymo claims that the delayed disclosure of the conversation However, still violates judge william alsop's order to turn over any information related to google When the case was first put into court earlier this year We were talking earlier today About exactly how relevant this story is considering that calinick is the former ceo and levandowski is a former employee of uber You see calinick's still a board member though Former ceo. Yeah And levandowski is is former everything. Yes. All right levandowski is on a permanent leave Considering how many how many problems he brought to that company. I feel like everybody all 15,000 employees Is uh address of their address books off their phone You seem to believe that this still is Uh, a bigger thing than than now people are making uh making out of it The media is making out of it because it is so vital to uber's future. Yeah, I think it shows That some people Have an interest in telling a salacious story about travis calinick And when that story is no longer interesting that part they're part of their interest in this goes away But to be honest the importance here is that Waymo the alphabet company could shut down uber's ability to research autonomous cars Uh, it's it's possible now. It's not a foregone conclusion And even if waymo wins the case they could win it in such a way that uber still is able to continue with their research But this is an existential threat to uber's future It doesn't affect what they do right now The existential threat to what they do right now is the entire missing C-level organization and the 14 member committee that's running, uh, the company So it I think this is incredibly significant the case is incredibly significant to uber's future This particular revelation Is interesting it's interesting that this conversation happened whether this ends up playing Significantly in the eventual decision of the case. I doubt plot twist all five disks Were aol copies with over 15,000 free hours I got these I got these 15 free hours from aol that I you know, I picked up a google They're they're google's disk. Don't bring them in man bring them in man I don't care if you got five on it Google glass received a firmware and companion smartphone app update. Hold on That again Google glass received a firmware and companion smartphone app update the first update for the app send september 2014 How young we were the my glass companion app now let's users hook up bluetooth devices Like keyboards and mice to the glass headsets glass is still used by many Enterprise settings Yeah glass never went away Uh, what happened is there was a nice public implosion and google backed far away from What had turned into a press nightmare around it but there were companies that had deployed it into factory settings and enterprise settings and They have continued to use it and work with google on it since that time There's a team dedicated to just that and I'm not surprised that they would say at some point Well, you know a lot of these enterprise companies have developed their own apps for interacting with it But we need to update the app for these other companies. So let's do that I don't know that this means google glass is alive any more than I personally believe google glass was ever totally dead Okay, we got this is another thing Because I I said when they began refocusing google glass for enterprise that this was indeed google glass receding from Most public consciousness and yes, it is safe to say that google glass Is not dead in the same way that rick springfield is still touring throughout the united states And europe you can go to your county fair and you can see rick springfield perform if Want google glass you can still get it you can still use it at a very specific setting But otherwise google glass is dead for all intents and purposes All right, you forced my hand and my apologies to those who watched the twitch stream with me adjusted earlier today But the better comparison is steve largent former seahawks quarterback and eventually head of the ctia Who went from pop? You know sports star Sure enterprise stalwart. That's exactly what google google glass is following the largent plan Oh stop it You are insulting steve largent if you are comparing his contribution to the enterprise world of america to that of google glass Apologize to steve largent He was in that position for 11 years Listen, i'll apologize to steve largent for calling him a quarterback when i believe that he was in fact a wide receiver But i will not apologize for that comparison You should you owe steve largent an apology and i won't stop until i won't I'm resting now. All right. I've already run out of steve. All right fine Uh, but all you want who knew we would be talking about google glass this week, though. Huh? How about that? uh Chinese bicycle sharing company mo bike has set up a subsidiary in fukuoka japan With plans to begin service there later in the year mo bike has launched service in singapore and manchester in the uk as part of its expansion outside china uh, so this is Uh, this is the company to watch. I don't do this often enough I sort of talk about a company several times and figure like you'll catch on you'll you'll get that this is interesting like with line I was talking about line for years I think mo bike is is one of those companies to keep an eye on that they are going to become Quite a lot bigger than you would expect from a bike sharing company because there's tons of bike sharing companies And tons of different ways of doing bike sharing around the world, but mo bike seems to have cracked the code on this So you are saying that this is your tom merit lead pipe lock of the century that mo bike Yeah, mo bike is my is my one to watch Yeah Uh, what what is it about it that that you feel so confident that uh, it has something that the others don't Uh, the ability to create high customer satisfaction And the ability to figure out markets to move into Before people start talking about why you haven't moved into markets. They're ahead of the game and It's it's just typical that if a company doesn't come out of the silicon valley bubble it often gets overlooked Do you think it's limited to places that have a certain kind of bicycle culture though? Obviously china and and and singapore and and even the uk which does not is is its own Uh, uh, you know very specific way of getting around like the a bike is is worth more or less Yeah, no, it's limited to the majority of the surface of the earth where people Are part of bike culture. You're right Uh, not going to play well in texas true calm down. Well, I mean, you know tell that to to lance Except for austin, right Uh, man, I'll tell you what I'll tell everything's we started talking about steve largett. He's got like A confident side of tom A while Uh mo bike Keep an eye on but no, I think this is fascinating and I think it'll be interesting to see Like all right can you know, and they're they're not picking tokyo in london I mean singapore singapore you don't go to singapore without going to singapore because that's all there is there And it's going to get hell of a bike culture and it's you know, very close To where mo bike came up in china. So that makes a lot of sense trying well Secondary markets in japan and the uk is very interesting. Singapore is also rich Which is yeah for sure element is that it is both tiny and rich Which may may not be mo bikes best play Uh, because this is for You know, maybe somebody's like a ride hailing service is too rich for my blood, but a bike hailing service bike sharing service Yeah, I can get on board with that Folks, if you want to get all the tech headlines in each day about five minutes is all you need Go subscribe to daily tech headlines at daily tech headlines.com You can also get it as a flash briefing on your amazon echo and in the anchor app At anchor dot fm. I've been getting lots of cool calls from people on the anchor app, which is kind of a fun thing Yeah, that is a look at our top stories Except Facebook has changed its mission. Justin. Yeah Old mission statement making the world more open and connected New mission statement closing all down No, that's that's not it at all Facebook said, you know making the world more open and connected was good But it had some downsides that we didn't anticipate As far as people isolating themselves even while they're connected etc etc So the new mission statement is give people the power to build community And bring the world closer together. They say it's not it's not enough to just open it up And and make the connection available. You've got to encourage people to get along with each other So their goal is to help 1 billion people join meaningful Communities facebook chief product officer chris cox told tech crunch We're getting to a size where it's worth really taking a careful look At what are all the things that we can do to make social media the greatest force for good possible Now this is interesting and we're going to take this in a in a little bit of a different direction but before we do Facebook is now seen as a company responsible for your social welfare and i'm not saying they're getting a pass They're planning your criticisms of facebook still out there But the old five years ago of like i hate facebook tone has mellowed considerably and facebook mark zuckerberg in particular doing a lot to say hey, no folks. We really want to improve And it feels like people are Receptive to that And part of that as we're going to get into in a second is him trying to take more Active responsibility to his own image personally knowing that that means something as it reflects on his company But there is no doubt that facebook was chased in by the 2016 election And specifically their initial response that they didn't really feel like they had much to do with the outcome That was slapped back uh on and said that no you you know exactly that these Fake news things are spreading and that that you could have done more you could have uh help algorithmically or more specifically helped shape a better discourse in The american democracy and then of course extrapolate that to around the world However, exactly go with the however However Let's focus on zuckerberg The man and his uh shaping of himself as a ceo because You know before he was uh Having his fun little yearly challenges about learning mandarin and only eating what he killed and uh on the Jarvisization of his own house taking a tour to meet the people Or to meet the people uh to meet local newspaper writers in mississippi or alabama. I can't remember doing things that If let's assume that he is not trying to set up a run for president He is certainly doing things that politicians do to bring forth his humanity Put that on display. So the only thing he is judged on is not Just the the output of this larger organization that he is tied to Before that The uh next web writes he bore A closer than passing resemblance to another founder and ceo who has had A less exciting week, right tom. Yeah, brian clark on the next web Wrote an article called mark zuckerberg was travis kolanik before we ever knew the name Now some of the comparisons are a little bit strained in my uh in my opinion, but I think clark has a point zucker the mid 2000s was bro culture of the mid 2000s He played fast and loose with rules the criticism of facebook at the time was they didn't have enough women working there Uh that they moved fast and broke things and that you you had to play along with their rough culture to get along They had plenty of pr disasters in their day. They had legal trouble They have been accused of stealing intellectual property, uh the winklevoss twins and held up as an emblem of what's wrong with tech I think it's easy to forget with the zuckerberg makeover that he used to be considered somewhat of an impending disaster And what clark gets absolutely right is the difference between zuck and kolanik is that zuck got advice from bill gates steve jobs And was willing to let sharyl sandberg come in as coo and provide a stabilizing and helpful influence Here's what I don't want this to devolve into uh Because I think it is a harmful an actively harmful element for people that Uh are are following tech news that care about tech news but Can easily get trapped in what I believe to be lazy narratives because I don't think that mark zuckerberg is the same person as travis Kalanik, I think that they are their own people that have their own pluses and minuses that what they share is What happens when a tech company in silicon valley? uh facebook in uh, you know the south bay and and kalanik in san francisco drawing from the same pool of people Explodes and some of that stuff is uh a symptom of of organizations larger than them As in the gender imbalance and not to say that silicon valley companies can't do better To help remedy that but part of it is a larger culture that's that it goes as far as a public school education and Colleges of higher learning not turning out the same amount of women in these very important fields as they should all that being said when faced with similar issues mark zuckerberg took a different path than than travis uh, kalanik and I don't I don't feel comfortable saying That the reasons why they made the decisions that they did are because Of them reflecting inside of themselves Instead of they were facing vastly different challenges Uh, uh, kalanik for uber to survive It had to be aggressive and fight it had to move fast and break things To be the company that it was now you can do that more responsibly as the board has obviously made the decision uh But zuckerberg did not face that necessarily he did he did not face the idea that every single day He had to make decisions on how to defy city and state governments because of what they felt to be unjust restrictive laws well Sure, maybe although you could argue that in europe facebook has done just that uh, I I think for me the the difference between them is that it's It's tempting to want to say it's the system that's wrong. It's the person that's wrong and it's both uh, the system At in tech does allow for this to happen Don't forget facebook was started because zuckerberg and his friends wanted to look at pictures of girls In college. All right, so this is not a pure intention beginning. Uh, I'm not condemning it either I'm not saying anything one way or another But I'm saying is that this started out of what people often call bro culture It started facebook started right out of that Mark zuckerberg is a different guy than travis kalanick and The advisors around him were different. Does the system allow for these mistakes? Yes, but it takes the people to make the mistakes and so Maybe the system could be modified a little to help people not make those mistakes But if you have the right person with the right personality, he'll convince anybody to do anything And I think that's kind of what you're seeing Sure And I do think it's safe to say that we're not seeing the whole story And and that would probably be an argument by both these people is that a lot of the decisions that we see that are portrayed through the The lenses that we see them are from their perspective distorted if not unfair and uh, uh, these decisions are not for example There is a large thought inside of uber that it is not that that the altruistic idea of of uber has crossed the line and finally it's time for us to get uh, You know a responsible ceo in here because we need to be a more responsible company is a justification for You want to know what this is going to hurt the ipo? So we just need you to get out of here travis so we can so we can move this ipo along on Again when you look at facebook what happened is concerned people stepped in and said let's help you get better What happened at uber was uh, people ignored a problem until it was really bad and then said You know what we're just going to throw the baby out with the bathroom What there was also the idea with uber that uh, they uber felt From as I understand it, uh, uh, calinic felt kind of burned by the fact that he'd we like uber Got different kinds of investors because people thought that his business model wasn't workable That that you couldn't break the tax unions that it was going to be a gigantic money pit and ultimately he was going to fail so There's an element inside of him that says well, then what the hell do you guys know? I built the fastest growing company of all time Yeah, I did it by does it give you a blank check to do whatever you want Uh, but maybe you should After a leave of absence, you know give the ceo a chance to say, okay Let's see what let's see what you can do Uh, and and and I I think we touched on this yesterday, but I think it underlies a a lack of faith in the business model and a Sort of a secondary concern that was there all along and has nothing to do with any of these controversies That says, you know what? Maybe we should just change the helm And this gives us a chance to justify it You know it it it's a very complex Issue and and it's one that I always Personally and this is not me, you know lecturing anybody, but I just know for me trying to understand these stories Is I always want to be open to the idea that I don't know everything and this is not simply about A toxic founders culture, uh, I think that very much it does have to do With an element of gender imbalance, uh I mean What if I if I may I think what you're saying is all of these are problems that need to be fixed But that isn't the only story going well at very least need to be understood before before we we You know as we do in celebrity culture because again these people are celebrities. There's a reason why Mark Zuckerberg Mark Zuckerberg doesn't want to go to a random house in in Ohio and sit down for meatloaf dinner Like I'm sure he could think of another thing that he would like to do on that day Why does he do it because he wants to be thought of better? So his company who he feels Uh a tremendous leadership for Will not be felt worse about because they feel bad because in in large part people feel bad about him And that's the problem that callinic did find himself in is all of a sudden when He's yelling at an uber driver No matter how much He feels ah that was surreptitiously recorded and they really kind of took things out of Context and at least i'm writing in my own service and i'm not taking some other cab or ensuring that people aren't recording me I don't have a private driver At the end of the day people tied that video to The the the sexual harassment letters to every other story he became the symptom That or the root cause of all these other symptoms Uh and he let his personal pr Effect the company and that is a part if not the full story of why he is no longer to see Hey, thanks everybody who participates in our subreddit you can spit stories and vote on him a daily tech news show dot reddit dot com Uh a bunch of quick messages the day do appreciate it when you guys, uh have good concise thoughts A jason from hardly any sunshine minnesota says hey guys you're mentioned about amazon blocking competitors websites It was a patent that would allow that uh in in locations Made me think of our local grocery store switching to satellite radio to prevent ads from the competing chain Blaring in the produce section nothing new under the sun says jason my least least favorite kind of articles ever is let's find patent filings and assign Narratives to them Russell says on yesterday's show you and petrick We're discussing the possibility that twitter could monetize things like superlikes or something similar letting people promote their feeds in other Ways we run a fairly robust twitter feed for our business and think that we could certainly take advantage of something like this to promote clients projects Etc at the individual level it might not work as well, but for a business the cost might be relatively smaller I'll tell you what sounds like a decent way Jupe says ola and good day from the tropical heat in the netherlands As you shortly discussed uber in the railroad era Go watch hell on wheels from amc. Also my suggestion for cord killers contest Yeah, so the uber of the railroad era is apparently the narrative in hell on wheels which takes place in the 19th century There we go big shout out to common And then on wednesday show scott was trying to identify an apt comparison to the current general perceptions of lift versus uber And paul and springfield virginia would like to suggest target and walmart Oh nice Yeah, I guess target being lift walmart being over well walmart walmart Yeah, I mean Although I don't know whenever we get into these these apple just kind of things. It's always Uh, it my my my reaction is always yeah Wait, I mean it's an analogy, right? You can't push it too far Uh, but thank you just robber young as always for joining us what you got going on to tell folks about Well next week. I'm going to talk to you all about my upcoming kickstarter. Uh, wait. No, I won't I'll be already gone during Nurtacular so this week. 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I'm a mo bicky man from a mo bicky zucker bro the prezzy Adapt on no offense though Uh mered explains mo bike tom stop it class number went away No more service silos I like cars as a service but justin asked tom to stop tom won't apologize I do like I we did this with patrick one day. I like these descriptive titles as potential ideas Well, there's also the one with the 90s references That uh, there's just itself a 90s reference to friends. That's amazing Well, right now, uh, justin asked tom to stop tom won't apologize and facebook's new model hashtag portal to heaven Hashtag heaven portal or oh Justin asked tom's done at the top I don't always enjoy flawed CEOs I like to have a colonic We did have an uber title yesterday. So it would be kind of nice to to change it up an uber it, uh to non-uberant Generally some old francisco franco is still dead Yeah, that happens You know, that's one thing that's 100 you can be sure of when someone's dead. They stay dead I wouldn't say that That's fine It's wager on it I had a friend named shelly all top Who had whose heart had stopped and she was legally dead and then she came back When she was a child I thought my dad was dead for 13 years Oh It's just lost in the supermarket Got me lost in a super Motoring tom musk's music Uh I really I really like either justin asked time to stop tom on apologize or the one with the 90s references I I've kind of split between those very two myself Nobody will write a steve large in one which I would have immediately thrown my full and unconditional Even if it had one fun One vote if it was just the one with the steve large in reference but I've run out of patience for someone to do it So I would say either the one with the 90s reference or I'm gonna go i'm gonna go justin asked tom to stop just tom won't apologize for two reasons First reason being I really want to encourage this style of headline where we just describe Because I think that could be our want the one with uh meme But second secondly Uh, I also think that the 90s references don't deliver. We didn't make enough of them Yeah In the episode so I'm I'm with it. I'm with it. All right Justin asked tom to stop you should make a vote apologize Make a mental note drop in more 90s references Oh, yeah Throw in a few more smash mouth It's hell not only two My problem is as much as limin thinks I make them I make them unintentionally. I didn't listen to a lot of uh Mainstream music in the 90s mainstream music I'm sure our local music in the 90s. I remember listening to a lot of jesus jones Really a lot of jesus jones was there that much to listen to No, it was just constant constantly like on looping Or what do they call it row heavy rotation That's the bucket Then there is also the kitchens of distinction And bunch of other really annoying british bands There are a lot the 90s There's republic, uh, there's a lot of one hit wonders that rolled in and out That's right. I remember the 90s Dad and that guy from savage garden With that jacket That leather jacket that seems so popular in the 90s tvz gone Because lunchman is his dreams have been crushed because he he had the one with the 90s references as the title submission Which does have the most votes? And tvz gone says it's difficult when you have the one with the most votes But this show like america is not truly a democracy I am the guy who points out your 90s references Nice I'm gonna try to make more 20s references So like what what what would be what would be a sweet 20s reference like flapper jokes Yeah flappers and Like that gin maybe yeah, well, yeah, yeah prohibition stuff, right, right I'm gonna pop off a few real sweet teapot dome scandal cracks What a f scott fits gerald Also thrown liberally of the use of brother. Oh you kid What do you call hulk hogan? No, it was the term brother was used a lot back then. Well, let me tell you brother It's just the way you enunciated brother. Can you spare a dime? Although that's 30s, but yeah, same area roughly I mean I think I think hulk hogan might have ruined that term because every time you hear brother you might just hear hulk hogan It's like uh macho man randy savage. You can't Help but think that you need to eat some prunes when you hear anything said by that man. Yeah Always say everything twice. Yeah, always say everything twice Yeah And finish with oh, yeah Yeah Then I think I think of that and I also think of um Chewing tobacco like skull Because that was big in the 90s in my college in my community jc Oh, really? Yeah, just a lot of guys chew in a couple of girls to chew Skull was pretty popular in my high school You get the uh, you get the little circular outline your back pocket Yep, because he was a little canister there and red man Maybe we did every man. I don't remember most of it was just skull Skull had a minty What was the one that uh mlb players were doing they were doing chew and um big league chew the bubble gum together Yeah, and so when they were chewing they would blow these like black bubbles whether they're like in the dug It's nasty. What was the thing? What was the thing? What was the uh like Baseball players used to do like amphetamines. Was it greenies? Yes, Sarah, but why does that make me think of daryl porter? He his drug of choice was cocaine, but yeah, oh, um Who was it on the cardinals that was accused of greenies? Now I can't remember p rose no Tony scott, maybe uh, I don't want to say that for sure just in case Tony It was apparently a fairly pervasive thing. I was One of the best I would say the best wrestling podcast that's out there is something to wrestle with Bruce pritchard Who is a former wwe talent executive and writer for years and years and years and years And uh, he was talking about a discussion. He had with uh an mlb Executive for a similar amount of time and how especially in the 70s especially in the 70s and 80s The the drugs that the athletes and the performers and wrestling were using were effectively the same because they had a lot of the same road schedule uh, and it was You know the same kind of uh, you know cocaine and and amphetamines like the trucker pills basically In the morning to get you up and to keep you going, uh, maybe right before the show or the game and then Booze and pot and everything and pills to wind you down. You had to put you down ludes no ludes Without ludes. I mean unless you're you're really trying to party All right, I I know nothing about the off-camera lifestyle of Big name baseball players or professional wrestlers professional wrestlers either one Uh, yeah, I mean all of me All I know is what what I've been told to on the podcast Did you have did you ever have a hankering as a in your younger days to be like a A w w f or w w like groupie. We're not groupie, but like you were just working That uh group is really better. No, you know, I had a friend of mine that uh, uh Went through a few interviews to become a writer Because they do a lot of hiring for writers out of the new york stand-up scene And uh, so he got wind of it and wound up getting a few uh a few levels in to the interview process but uh It it it's it's I've known of you people that have worked there Almost universally It's it might not be the best place in the world to work It's it's a far better place to watch Than to work from from what I hear just because it's uh It's a grueling schedule and it's a mom-and-pop business and uh and ultimately Still it's still a mom-pop It's a publicly traded company, but there is one man who makes all the decisions and uh that I can't remember how much of this story I can tell but There was a I know people that worked on a a television show that uh the wwe was commissioning for their network And they were told very specifically That uh, they wanted one thing right they wanted uh They they wanted this very very specific bill of goods And so they went and they shot it and it was great. The first cut was Awesome it was everything that any wrestling fan could want It was exactly what they asked for they went every step of the of of the way They were like, hey, are you sure you want us to show this? Are you sure you want us to show that all they got back was yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes They put together they're so proud of it. They submit it and uh, unfortunately, there's one man that Was not on board with those those decisions and the people that gave them the yeses all the way along the All along the way all of a sudden changed their mind when the man upstairs said that he was not down with those decisions and The entire thing was spiked and redone Uh from from from that point on and at that point they were like, all right, this is Turns out the rumors were true. This is this is a too unstable environment even for people that create television Wow That's that's a heart wrenching Story or is it stomach wrenching? well These people are in An element of television that is very chaotic and weird and relies on yeah, sure I mean, you know big big re-edits and and projects being killed is not unusual, but It's hard when I think for a lot of you that wind up going to work there It's hard because you wind up as a fan of wrestling you have to defend it constantly And so then you go to work for the cause And this is not unlike a lot of people that go to work in political causes, you know is uh, you you love uh These you know, you love the first amendment and you love animals and you love Uh protecting whatever rights and then you go to work at the organizations that fight on the forefront So these causes and you realize that it's still an office where your boss might just be kind of an asshole and uh Uh You know all the same things that normally happen don't imagine early get washed away because you happen to like the product That's being produced. Yeah Yeah, I think everyone has a similar story in whatever field out there and I think that's probably one of the more so is it what they is it kind of goes in line with the whole thing It's like you don't really want to meet your ears Oh, yeah. Oh for sure and and let alone I think it's it's if we are to combine and braid cliches. It is uh braid. I love that braid cliches You don't want to meet your heroes and you don't want to know how the sausage is made, right? If you if you are sitting back and enjoying this product, then you might not realize how many sleepless nights and uh you know conversations that ended in tears it took to get there and uh Uh, you also don't want to realize that the person that you idolize might just kind of be a wiener penis I by him I've been in the sausage factory and I know all right about sausages Tom's vegan Yeah, yeah, exactly. I'm all right. Uh Thanks everybody for watching or listening and we will speak to you again soon Indeed actually