 by Rich TV Live. Hi, how's everybody doing today? This is your host, Rich from Rich TV Live, and I'm here with a very special guest. It's Greg Safrenski, who is the IR consultant for International Montoral Resources Inc. How are you doing today, Greg? I'm quite fine, thanks, Rich. I'm very excited to speak with you today, Greg. Yesterday we did a video introducing international Montoral resources to our community, the stock went wild, had a really big day, traded millions of shares. Today was up earlier, it finished, I guess it's kind of unchanged right now, but it's traded over 700,000 shares again today. Yeah, I think we're just about to hit the million mark now. Perfect, and what I thought today would be a good idea is to go over some of the materials with you because you're more of a mining expert and resource expert than I am, and maybe just break it down in layman's terms so people can understand exactly how big of an opportunity this is. That's exactly, I consider myself a stock shaman, and what I do is I translate geological, geophysical speak into plain English. I like that. Let's start ahead. I worked on a PowerPoint here, let's see if we can get it going. Sure, so let's get it started, and we're gonna share right now. So this is... This is what happens when you let me play with the computer. So why don't we start with this? What is this exactly that we're looking at right now here? Okay, so this is from the government Ontario, Ontario Geological Survey. It's a Google add-on, and anybody can access this, it's through Google Earth, and what you have there in the center, that that's work, that's the PCORS anomaly. And that that's work you see there is the lines of the geotech geophysical flew with their helicopter over PCORS lake anomaly. Wow. And can you explain the importance of Elliot Lake? I know that there's been a lot of resource companies in that region. Quick history, Elliot Lake for a time was the uranium capital of the world. Wow. I'm sure in the nuclear arsenal in the United States, they still got material from Elliot Lake. It really ran for, there was Denison and Real Algamon, which is Real Algamon is Real Tinto, it was just the Canadian division was called Real Algamon. They mined there for a better part of 40 years. Wow. About 2006, 2007, uranium prices catapulted from nine to like over a hundred dollars a pound. And so we acquired the ground, they don't have the claim groups here, but we acquired the ground that was reserves left over from Real Algamon's mine, which was roughly about 15 million pounds of uranium. So when you have a mine, you wanna have drilled ahead of your production at least two years of production for that mine. So we acquired half of the reserves. Moving forward in 2011, there was a big scare for rare earth. The Chinese delayed shipping the rare earth shipments and so there was a big push to find rare earth outside of China. And we ran our assays for uranium drilling program there and surprise, we didn't have a uranium deposit, we had a rare earth deposit. There was like three times more rare earth in that ore than there was uranium, but we'd never tested for it before. Wow. That's impressive. Moving forward historically, we did, you see the pink, all that pink in the background, that's around behind underneath the snatch, the thatch work there. That's our V-TEM survey that we flew about 2009. Just to get a feel of where we could, the V-TEM is a magnetic survey is found by an airplane. So we get a feel like where, how are uranium ground was? Cause we have more than just the reserves, we acquired a whole bunch of ground in that area. I think right now we're the largest land holder, claim holder in the LA Lake camp. Wow. That's impressive. So we did, so when we flew this, that big pink area, see under the, that's what showed up. And we were very excited, of course. Like, so we went to the Ontario Geological Survey in Sudbury and we said to them, let's go to the next slide. Sure. Let's pull it down. Yeah. Okay, so this, now this is the same V-TEM, which is a magnetic sensing, a magnetic sensing, you're looking for magnetic things. What are magnetic things you ask? I will tell you. There's three primary ferromagnetic elements. One, of course, is iron. The other one's nickel and the third is cobalt. So if you're flying a magnetic survey, and this is the one you showed before was our V-TEM survey that the OGS took from us and put on their database. This is the Z-TEM showing the magnetic fields. So, when you're looking at this thing, you gotta go, that is, between every little line there going north and south, this, between those lines, two clicks, two kilometers. Wow. So you're looking at something in the range of many kilometers long. Wow. The center point there, the key point is where the big one in the middle is. So this is the same data set sensing for magnetic anomalies as a V-TEM, but this was from our recent survey by Geotech in 2018, a helicopter survey. Again, they're looking for magnetic anomalies, and so we've really got a really good picture of it now. Let's go to the next slide. Sure. Magnetic anomalies, I like that. I was looking at this picture, very interesting picture here. So now we, so, you got, this data will have two, you're gonna get two things rich. One is, of course, magnetism, things that are magnetic, the iron, the nickel and the cobalt. Now, when we first showed that V-TEM data to the, well, very, I mean, the people at the Ontario Geological Survey, which is a division of Northern Mines, Ontario, it's a government-run organization. And we told them, hey, you know, we got this V-TEM, it just shows a magnetic anomaly and then it's, and we'll see it in the coming slides, but it's also centered on a huge gravity anomaly. Now, why would a gravity anomaly be interesting? Well, something is buried, buried, below our property is so dense, it affects gravity. And this was a survey done by the Canadian government in the 60s. So what we're looking at here now is, again, the two different things, the gravity anomaly is, we'll see the picture coming up, but what you're looking here is, it shows the magnetic anomaly. We'll go into the other thing later. So this is about five kilometers long, easy two kilometers tall, easy two kilometers across. It is, and I've been in the business since 85, that's in 1985, and I've never seen anything this consequential in size. It's almost biblical. So you can see in this graphic, the red holes are the holes that we drilled in 2015, and the blue holes are drilled by Real Tinto's, you know, Canadian Division Real Algamut in the same spot in about 1956. So in 1986, without all this technology, they figured out to poke some holes there that there was something below there, but they didn't quite find it. Let's look at the next slide. So here's a satellite shot, and this is what it looks like, you know, without all the yada-yadas, the data, and in a couple of spots where we drill our holes, we drilled two holes, one hole we drilled was a kilometer, 1,000 meters, and the second hole, which is the one in the middle, and the 2015 two, that's the second hole, we drilled that one 1,317 meters, that's 1.3 kilometers, it's almost 6,000 feet, and the pain will come in the next few slides. This is our 2015 program, trying to hit that anomaly that we saw in the previous slide. Next slide, please. Again, here's the lines that the helicopters flew, both north and south and east and west. There's a big basket, hangs under the helicopter that when they fly these lines, so you know where they flew, and all back and forth. In fact, they flew this survey twice to make doubly sure that they got all the data correctly, and usually they can do it in an afternoon, but the geotech guys, they wanted to get something that they knew they could tell they were onto something big, so they double flew it. So this data is for about, and they spent two weeks there, which usually take them an afternoon. So that tells you a little bit that what they saw, what they saw, what you're seeing now, is something that they'd never seen before. Now geotech's been around for decades, and we'll go on to more about them later. Next slide, please. So we've, now this, when I mentioned, there's two things you want to sense from these helicopter survey, is the first one's the magnetic. So that's all the magnetic material, the magnetic material, and this one is, as you can see below on the bottom, there it says resistivity. Okay, now resistivity is a measure of conductivity. The least resistance, the material, the more conductive the material. So as when we're talking about magnetic anomalies, that's a different scale, a different sensor. This is conductivity where you're measuring for conductive minerals, not magnetic minerals. So this shows you where there might be conductive metals, and what are those conductive metals you ask? I'll tell you. Copper, gold, silver, platinum, palladium, rhodium, some nice stuff. So this is, in this particular picture, we see superimposed on the, so you're looking at it from the north, basically the tip of the anomaly, you're underground looking at the anomaly in this picture. This is how good the data is. And you can see the front of the beginning tip of the anomaly. And that line that goes down there, that is the 1300 meter hole we drilled. And go to the next slide as we get over the pain. This is very interesting, Greg. This looks really big. It's really good. Now, this is a painful slide for me and directors. We had took the VTEM data, you know, in that first picture, you can see that it's on the, the government of Ontario bought it from us. So there's VTEM data, and then we did the helicopter thing on top of that. But now we've got the data from the ZTEM and the 2D graphic here. Again, we're underground looking at the anomaly. And you see those two lines, those two arrows that come down? That's our drill holes. And you can see on the second hole, we just skimmed the outside of the yellow layer. That's like, we just skimmed the halo of this massive anomaly, which is like five kilometers long. You just missed it. You just missed it. I mean, we just missed it. I mean, it's very agonizing. We downhole probed, and this is a device to drop down the hole and it uses IP and magnetic. It's the same thing as a helicopter, but it uses the same devices to sense conductivity and magnetic elements nearby. And yeah, we're two, maybe 300 feet away from the goodies. That's, and these were not cheap holes. I tell you, in my, and I've been around since 85, never drill the 1300 meter hole. So we thought it was down there, but we didn't hit it, which is bad news for us. Good news for the investor. Let's go to the next slide. Now, in this shot, it's again, you can see this on the Ontario Geological Surveys website, their earth link site. You're looking at the, previous we saw the sort of long banana shaped VTEM. This is the Canadian government's gravity survey. So you can see that there's something massive there. The pink is, it's so dense. It's affected gravity. It can be sensed from a plane flying over. So that's, this is the gravity anomaly in the area where you are, which is again, a measure, basically again to say, why is it important? Because something is so dense in this area that it affects gravity. And so if you have, and this is when we went back to, when we did the VTEM, we talked to the OGS people in Sudbury. We said, well, we've got this gravity anomaly and it's right on top of this massive, you know, a VTEM anomaly. What do you think we got? And they said, don't get excited because that's also what you could have as iron. And no one's going down a thousand feet to get iron. Then we go forward in time. Next slide please. So this is just a historical background. Now, here we have, again, this is the resistivity, the measure of conductivity. And we have the Z2 and Z1 that is discussed in our most recent news release. I do recommend the investors to do as much due diligence as possible. And read the news release is quite a bit of information. We took a long time in composing that news release so you get the stuff. So we see the Z2 and the Z1, again, these are kilometers long. And it gives us a clue. And if we go to the next, it gives us a clue as, okay, if we drill here, there's conductive minerals. And those might be some juicy ones, gold, silver, platinum, et cetera. If we drill over here, we're gonna get into the magnetic anomaly, which we know because going back to the OGS, and I didn't put this on a database, but if investors go to our website, you'll find our PowerPoint presentation. And in 2010, the government of Ontario's geological survey did a geochem above our anomaly, which was very nice. It would cost us hundreds of thousands of dollars. And the result of that was, and I'm quoting from the OGS geochem report. This is by the geophysicist, Dryer is the author of this, very extensive, and again, it's on our website, the OGS geochem. He says, and this is the guy from Sudbury. Now, I don't know if you can know about Sudbury, but at one point Sudbury was a nickel mining capital of the world. There is about 14 mines there. Isn't that where they have that big nickel? Yeah, yeah, that's where they get the big nickel. I've seen that big nickel in Sudbury. Yeah, and they moved it though. I went looking for it last time I was there, and it wasn't by the highway where I thought, where it used to be, they moved it somewhere. Anyways, so we are about, as a crop flies maybe 50 miles to the west of Sudbury. Now we're on the same latitude. So now to give you an idea how rich Sudbury is between how much they've mined and how much they know it's in the ground, it's over a trillion dollars, and that's US dollars. So we got the geochem, and at this point in time, we didn't have, we looked it over and went, holy cow. And then we read in the report where the guy says, at PCORS lies a Sudbury like occurrence, but of higher intensity. It's going back, the wealth of Sudbury, the mining camp is a trillion dollars. Here's a guy that's been doing geochem surveys for the OGS for over 33 years, and he goes every summer all around the, we're in the Sault Ste. Marie mining camp, the Sudbury mining camp is almost on this picture. There's a line there, it's like we're just at the border. So this guy's been doing, in the Sudbury mining camp, doing geochems, and Sudbury's again, there's got 14 nickel mines, so I'm a little touched with the investors about geochem. There's a thing, and it's a thing, it's called mobile metal ions. And what occurs is that you'll have underneath you a deposit of dust matter, it's iron, nickel, cobalt, whatever it is. And over time, well, magically, I don't have any other explanation, over time, ions from those individual elements will come to the surface and get caught in lake sediments or river or extreme sediments. It's beautiful. So these guys went by with using helicopters and dingies and that, and they spent about a month on top of our property, getting samples from all the little lakes and streams, you can see some of them there. There's Hogue Lake, Peacore's Lake, and then above us, where our anomaly is, there's a vast amount of lakes, small lakes, the ponds, marshes, et cetera. And they measure 20 centimeters down into the sediment. And the reason they did that is so, because we're close to Sudbury and we can get pollution that would carry other elements, maybe come over to where we are. And we spoiled the sample. So these guys went down 20 centimeters and took the sample. And like I said, it's the best results the guys had in his career, right above our anomaly. It's very prospective for nickel, copper, cobalt, basically the periodic table. We can look at the geochem and say, if we drill here, the good chance we're gonna find titanium. We drill here, it's a good chance we're gonna find, and this is going back to the conductivity side of things, as you can see that scale on the bottom from 425 to 10,000 or 100,000, 410. What you're looking for is a low number. Low number means less resistance, elements have less resistance, like copper, they have good conductivity. So the geochem shows us some magical things that we're gonna have put on a 3D graphic as well. So you can drill here, if you do it in the first, in the first say, 500 meters, the kilometer of this five kilometers, the conductivity indicates that we, and the geochem indicates that we'd be hitting benedium, titanium, chromium, and then for about a two kilometer stretch, it's bozo box office for rare earth, lithium, and uranium, you know? But in the one end where the gravity's the densest and where the magnetic anomaly is, right above the lakes, above that huge gold platinum, nickel, copper, cobalt, palladium. I mean, beautiful stuff. Our drill hole, when we just skim the side of this anomaly, we got nickel, copper, and palladium and platinum. The ratio of palladium to platinum was four to one. Palladium is, I think, the high flyer right now in the element market, I think it's worth more in gold. So that's it. So we're taking all the pieces. We've taken all the pieces now over time. Magnetic anomaly, gravity anomaly, government sinks, maybe it's iron. They do the geochem, turns out, ate no iron there at all. We drill, we miss. Then we did this helicopter survey and this data is like seeing through rock. What you see in these graphics, go to the next one, Richard, please. What you see from Geotech and their helicopter ZTEM survey. This one here, I think, you see that? Rich, if you go back, please. I couldn't get this to work, but if you can just cut and paste that YouTube video into the browser. I don't know if you can do that. That link there. No one allowed me to cut and paste. And I can't see my thing. Anyways, you'll find this. This is a 3D gift sort of video of that shows both the magnetic and the IP, the conductivity, resistivity anomalies in its completeness. And it spins around and shows where the drill holes are. Please visit the website. It's right there on the Serpent River page. That's the project page that we're on. What I can do is, we can do another video, maybe kind of showing that video. Yeah, okay, I don't know what's this thing here. Anyways, moving along, let's have a look at the next slide. That's the closure. That's the spinning line. I just couldn't get it up here. Talking about Geotech. Now, Geotech is in Ontario, Aurora, Ontario and they do a great deal of work for Valley. And Valley, if you don't know, is one of the biggest mining companies in the world. I think the Brazilian government gets a lot of money from Valley's activities. Valley has a variety of mines. The peak of the bunch in the peak and pack is the Voise Bay mine in Labrador. Voise Bay, the discovery thereof is the biggest single discovery in Canada in the last 50 years. So, having said that, it was discovered late 1999. It was bought by INCO for $4 billion, an unparalleled value. And this took in 1999 for $4 billion. Now, INCO became Valley. So, it's the same, so when they merged together, now they used to be, for a while they're INCO Valley, now they're just Valley. What we're looking at here, and bless we are to have this data, is the Geotex ZTEM survey, helicopter survey of the Voise Bay mine. And you'll see off to the left, there's a red area, a little bit higher in the middle, and then there's another red area to the right. Those are the Ovoid and the Eastern Deep's deposits. Right now, Rich, they are spending $2 billion, or is Canadian, to access those two red dots on the left there. One's about 550 meters down. The Ovoid is like an oval, it's 300 meters in circumference, and about 100 meters thick. The one to the right, that's the Eastern Deep's, it's like a tube about 800 meters long, about 40 meters in circumference. So, they're thinking one chap to get to the Ovoid, and they're thinking another shaft to get to the Eastern Deep's. So, this is where the trick comes in, because now, Valley does not share this data. This went into a scholastic paper written by some pretty prestigious geophysicist and geologist, reviewing, it's probably gone into a textbook somewhere. The Valley allowed for the release of this data, for this paper. So, now we get to look behind the curtain, and this is an absolute blessing for us, and it's a key thing for your investors. So, they're spending $2 billion to get to those two red dots. Okay, those two red dots, and again, we know that a measure of magnetism is what you're looking for, magnetic minerals, and that's what they're looking at here, is nickel, copper, cobalt. There's only the three things, and in the Eastern Deep's, we have the data, it's about 2.7% nickel, half a percent copper, half a percent cobalt, and they're spending a billion bucks to get there. Now, there is a scale, and it's all about the score and the chalkboard, and how many yards you gotta go to the touchdown. This is the thing, Greg, that always worried me about mining and resource companies, and I know you said that resource companies are about to explode. Is the amount of money they spend on drilling and digging? Do you think that's a problem? Well, I'm gonna cover that a little bit later, and it has been a significant problem for the last 10 years, but I'm gonna cover that later. The key thing here, folks, is that we're looking at the Eastern Deep's. You see that little spot there, in the bottom, on the right there, where it's got the arrow that goes down. The picture on the left and the picture on the right, and then the little dot there. That's the Eastern Deep's. It's only 40, 50 meters across. Now, let's go back up again. Let's go back up to one of those awful pictures where we missed the hole. Past this one, that's the gravity. We get to the one where we missed the hole. Okay, here we go, here we go, okay, stop, stop, stop. Okay, so there is a measure of magnetism, and it has the delightful scale of being referred to as nanoteslas, nanoteslas. Small line, big T. Now, Eastern Deep's, we got the nanoteslas on that. It's 41,000. The bigger number, the better on nanoteslas. So we saw the picture from Ballet's Boise Bay, mine, the Eastern Deep's. That one's 41,000 nanoteslas. And we know it's 2.7% nickel, and we know it's a half a cent copper, and we know it's the size of it. We know it's in there, it's a half a percent cobalt. The size of those ones you're looking at, the bigger one on the left here, the one just beside where we missed, is in the neighborhood of a kilometer across and a kilometer thick, as opposed to the Boise Bay, Eastern Deep's, which is about 400 meters tall, 400 meters thick. 40, sorry, 14 to 50 meters tall, 40 to 50 meters across. This one is a kilometer around. It's 10, 20 times larger. I was just enormous, I can't believe how big it is. That's okay, but I can't stress how accurate this geotech ZTEM survey is. It's deadly accurate. You can almost, it can almost, if you have a scale to measure by, you know what you kind of get a clue as to what you're gonna find when you get there. I was at the roundup here in British Columbia. It's mostly for miners, and there's a lot of geologists and geophysicists that go there because they have ongoing learning seminars. So I got to talk to a lot of geophysicists at the roundup about six weeks back here in BC, at the convention center. And I brought my data out and I says like, no. So it says, have you ever heard of something as high as 57,000 nanotesla? Because you know, we know that Eastern Deep's 41,000 and they're spending roughly a billion dollars to sink a shaft there. And we have 57,000. So what does that tell, to make that plain speak? So we are comparing, it's an easy comparison between us and Boise Bay. If we have 57,000, and I've asked about, and I'm getting a paper written actually, just having a conversation with a geophysicist about this and he's gonna go out there and find the stuff I couldn't find, but it is an unparalleled result. No one has gotten this kind of result anywhere on this planet at this time. And I'm gonna get a geophysicist to write a report that's gonna say that. And what do we know if it's got more magnetism, it's gonna have more nickel and cobalt. And we know the size and we know the magnitude of the nanoteslas. So all the buttons are pushing the one thing. This could very well be something as big or not bigger than Boise Bay. And again, it was acquired for four billion bucks. It's been operational since 2005 and they're spending another two billion bucks to get down to the deposits. So what does that mean for investors in this company? Like, do you- The potential, you know- We've been in this game for a long time. This is a six cent stock. I mean, what do you think? Like what kind of upside does an investor have here? I, like I was around and I made a great deal of money and I was used to be palsy with this guy named Robert Friedland and he had formed this company called Diamond Fields. And at the time, Chuck Fipke had discovered diamonds in the Northwest Territories and the stock went from pennies to $72. You know, so Robert Friedland, he comes in, he comes in and says like, if there's diamonds in the Northwest Territories, there's gonna be diamonds in Labrador. So he's staked a section of ground in Labrador about the size of France. And his master plan was to get four geologists and two helicopters and just start flying lines looking out the window, see if they can see a Kimberlite pipe to go looking to find the diamonds. I can't make this stuff up, this is bad. In the course of them flying back and forth, these two geologists see something but it's not on Diamond Fields property. They land the helicopter, took a pic, hit the ground, bang, took a sample. That was it, they discovered Boise Bay. Took them about a couple months and then Friedland bought that claim from them. Even though he was working, these guys were working for him, but they were on his claim, so these guys claimed it. Sold it to Diamond Fields. Diamond Fields drilled it. The stock started at 30 cents at close, by the time it was taken over by INCO, $156 a share. It is probably the unparalleled leave of Canadian stock in the mining sector for that. I don't know how many thousands of percentage points, but I made a great deal of money trading the stock back in the day. So what does it mean to the investors? Well, you can't turn back time, you can't buy that 30 cent Diamond Fields stock before the nickel discovery, but I'm showing you where we have empirical, periodal data that shows that we are right on top of and we're moving forward to drill this target that is much larger than the Eastern deeps or the Ovoid combined from the Boise Bay Mine and has a higher magnetic signature. Again, the numbers are 41,000 for the Eastern deeps, 57,000 for the one you see on your screen. So the more magnetic it is, the richer it will be for minerals that are magnetic and they are iron, nickel, and cobalt. And we know from our drilling and from the geocam, it's not iron. So we could very well, and this is just potential, there's nothing's written in stone, but you can see by the data sets that we put together that it's like a sleuth, it's like a mystery novel. You got clues, right? And like you said, Rich, drilling is expensive. So you wanna be, not like us in 2015, shooting these, we're basically wildcat holes down here for hundreds and hundreds of thousands of dollars and coming up nothing. We can't turn back time to move that drill hole over and we can't turn back time to let your investors buy a diving fields at 30 cents, but here we are at a time that you can participate in the giant potential that we believe that we have. We're not just being, I mean, we're not looking at, we may be looking at here what will become the next biggest single mining discovery in Canada. So that's what I'm saying, there's nothing in stone, it's a lot of risk, get you that, but we've reduced the risk. Got strong geocam numbers, we got the V10 numbers, we got the Z10 numbers, we got gravity, it's all lined up quite nicely. The stars are aligning for the peak horse anomaly. Let's have another look at the slides here, the slide through. Yeah, so let's scroll down here. That's the gravity, it's gigantic. And this is again, this is IP, Conductive Minerals. The video you have to visit on our website, maybe we can tack it in later. A comparison to the Eastern deeps, is you don't know if you can see that. Now here's another shot of the Eastern deeps, gives you an idea the size of it. Again, our core, the indicated core for our data, which is identical data that the geotech used on the Boise Bay mine, so everything's the same. So this is another shot of how big the, this is the Eastern deeps, Boise Bay's Eastern deeps, you can see the size of it. So it's 100 meters across, maybe 100 meters tall. It's an average of about 50 meters, if you take a, maybe a circle, it's about 50 meters. And it's worth, they're gonna spend, like they're sinking two shafts. One of these shafts is gonna cost a billion bucks, it's going down there about 700 to 150 meters. That is insane. They're not money they're spending, it's crazy. Yeah, well, why are they spending it, Rich? Because this is a, this is a money machine. You think that thing, and I, no one, they're not sharing, the ballet does not share this information about how much money they've made on this mine, but if they bought it for four billion, they throw another two billion into it, what, 2000, almost 15 years later, throwing another two billion into it. Yeah, it's, it must be a very nice business. I don't think they're doing it for charity, you know what I'm saying? Sounds like a cash cow. Yeah, let's see what we got next. Ah, just one more thing. Here we go. Next slide, please. Okay, so in the metal sector, in the mineral mining sector, there's always an element de jour. I know, the metal of the day, if you will. And, you know, we've seen in different, gold's hot, silver's hot, you know, uranium's hot, rare earth's hot, then they're looking for scandium, now we're looking for vanadium, then cobalt gets hot, lithium gets hot. And, you know, this, there was no, this is just a natural progression of things, as, you know, shortages occur, demand increases. And what we have here is a nice Bloomberg graphic, indicating the incoming demand for these, all the metals necessary in making a lithium ion battery. And the demand is exponential. It is, it's just beginning to take off. And you can see, you know, as we get into, you know, 2029, 2030 there, how much more nickel, aluminum, copper, lithium, manganese, all these elements you can need to fund the electrification of the car industry. And let's face it, it's happening, it's over, it's gonna happen. I bought a Tesla, get it, you know, got to get with the program. And, you know, you can't remember, do you remember where you put your last flip top phone? Nope. Oh, see, if you had that flip top phone and you flip it over and you think you're Captain Kirk and go, hi, how you doing? I got mine, I found mine in my drawer here. It only took three years for us to go from horses to cars. The demand, the demand for like cell phones exploded and then like, and the Kia was the God, then Blackberry's the God, and then Naples the God. And you know, it's like, these things are constantly moving. But what you don't see in the background, and specifically for the electric car industry, is like our graduate demand that's gonna come for these minors, it's already starting, it's driving the prices up. So, it's the other side of the coin is why investors would wanna look at a speculative stock like ours, even though we're a band's explorer, is that the demand for the metals that we hope to discover is increasing and the value, because of the supply and demand equation, you're going to have, the prices are gonna go up on these metals because in the last 10 years, I mean, we're going back to where you discussed the industry, in the last 10 years, we've been in a bear market for the minors. Peaked out 2010 at about our index, the TSX venture where we trade. Primarily, we also trade in the States. Symbol in the States is IMTFF. If you're in Germany, it's 04-T1 on the Frankfurt, I guess IMT here in Vancouver. But the TSX venture peaked at about 2100 in 2011, 2010-2011. We've been as low as 400 and we're trading, the whole index was the composite index. It's the value of all the 1600 companies divided by how many shares outstanding gives you this index, which we're about 600 now. So in fact, we're not in a bear market in this sector, we're in a double bear market because any drop of 25% is a bear market and we've had two drops of over 25% since 2010-2011. What does that mean to the investor? It says, okay, so you want to get it on the ground floor. You want to buy the stock before something happens. You want to have that knowledge or you're a trend guy and you can see like, geez, you know, I think all these electric cars and windmills and solar panels, they're becoming the norm. And when the ice vehicle, the gas guzzler, goes away to the foot bone, is there a profit to be made? Yes, there is. And you want to buy when nobody wants it. You buy low, sell high. So you're coming into a 100% agree with you, Greg, 100% agree. You know, you don't chase the market. You like that stock, you have five cents. Do you like it at 25 cents? Did you miss 500% profit because you thought about it too long? Did you see the trend? Now here on the next graphics, I'm going to show you the trend. This obvious trend, that's from Bloomberg. This is from a benchmark minerals who's become the leader for the pricing of these. Again, we call it the fourth industrial revolution, electrification of the ice vehicles, green energy, solar, yada yada wind. So here they got the lithium is a, you know, yellow caution. This is the demand from now to 24. This is from like now to the next five years. Nickel's a red light. Why is nickel a red light? Now because in the last 10 years, you haven't done any investment in exploration of nickel because we've been in a 10 year bear market. Nobody wants, everybody wants to throw their money at Bitcoin and Ethereum and pot deals and CBD deals. You know, it's like, and that lack of funding into this area is brought about a near term shortage. And right now that there's only one market for this two markets, you can trade nickel and London metal exchange and also in the New York commodity exchange. It's the same, you're dealing with the same pot, the same warehouse and nickel. Now when we drove in 2015, nickel prices had come from about four bucks and hit a high of nine. And the reason that was was classic supply and demand. That the warehouse was down to about 200,000 tons. Now a company called Roskill, which is sort of a think tank for the mineral industry, they've calculated that the demand for electric vehicles for the production of lithium ion batteries. And if you don't know this, Elon Musk has said this, is that they shouldn't be called lithium ion batteries. They really are nickel graphite batteries. That's the major components in these batteries. And if you, and what they're doing is cobalt being a, let's call it for lack of better terminology, a blood mineral coming from the Congo, questionable mining, children working yada yada. So they increase the chemistry, they put more nickel in and less cobalt. And that's the trend going forward. They started at three, one, one, three parts nickel, one part cobalt, one part manganese. And now they're going upwards to eight and nine parts nickel, one part. So your proportion in that battery for use of cobalt drops as the nickel increases. So that's what it is. There is right now on like Simon Moore from Benchmark and who put this graphic together was speaking to, and this is in our news lease that came out yesterday, was speaking to the Senate subcommittee on minerals and oil, all the senators are brought him in because he's an authority. And he said that there are all these minerals you see there. He said that to the senators says, you produce none of them, it's none of them. He says, and this is the second trip in giving testimony to the senators at this resource commission, the Senate subcommittee. And he says, I was here 19 months ago, there were seven mega factories under construction at that time. As of his, and he only gave this it's just like weeks ago, he gave us his testimony. He says, and this is what he said, there was 17 going, sorry, miscoded, there's 17 mega factories, the biggest one, of course, is Tesla's giga one. And the CATL as one of the same size as China. He says, all these minerals, America produces zero. It all comes from outside of the country. Wow, I wasn't aware of that. And he said we went from 17, he was there like 18, 19 months between the two testimonies. He went from 17 to, and now there are 71 of these giga factories. The demand is Incredible. Exponential. And how do you participate? You can chase Tesla stock or you can buy some other battery deal. But the guys are gonna coin the money or the miners. And we're not a miner yet. But we could be a thousand feet from making a Boise Bay like discovery. The data shows us that. And again, to reiterate, it's the biggest score in mining in the last 50 years was the Boise Bay. So that the potential for upside is there. The entry point in the stock is laughable. If you know this at this price range, you know we only have 27 million shares. So, you know, the upside potential is very, very much there. Let's have a look at the next slide. Nickel deficit is a star rating. He, Scott Moore from Benchmark said that the demand for Nickel from now to 2024 will go 19 times, 19 times. And here in this graphic, we look at the Nickel supply demand and market balance. We're going to go into a deficit pretty soon. Like we were drawing down on the inventories of the London Metal Exchange. In the last, I've looked at the charts, the amount of Nickel sitting in the warehouse that you can buy is the lowest level that it's ever been. I can only see the chart back 10, 12 years. It's never been under 200,000 tons. Ross killed the mineral think tank. They say the demand for lithium ion batteries is going to increase the overall yearly demand for Nickel by two to 300,000 tons. Well, where the hell is this 200, 300,000 tons coming from? Because the warehouse in London has under 200,000 tons and it's going down every day. The price of Nickel has increased 25% this year. It's come from 480 to 6 bucks. So far in 2019, you're going to read the trend, you're going to see the signs. Nickel could go like, go berserk. Copper, again, Robert Friedland, the guy I talk about, the old diamond fields discovered Boise Bay. He made, his company got paid 4 billion bucks for the Boise Bay mine. Guess how much Robert got? 3.8 billion. He owe 97% of the shares. He's a big time miner guy. He's got Ivan Hoys, he's got mines in China. He's got mine, you know, he went to town. We didn't have the problems that Robert did because Robert's childhood buddy was Steve Jobs. So if he wanted some money, he just had to, I don't know if he had the phones, he just phoned his buddy Steve Jobs up and there was money for him. We have to work a little bit harder than Robert Friedland did. So, but Robert said in Forbes magazine here last week that you're going to need a telescope to see copper prices in 2024, 2021. You know, why is because it's the same thing happening in the nickel market's happening even more in the copper industry. The demand from electric vehicles is emptying out the warehouse. And how are you going to fill that warehouse? You're going to have to go out and find more minerals in the ground and you're going to have to open up mines. And it doesn't happen overnight. It's, you know, you make the discovery and you'd be lucky to be in production in four or five years. And what's going to happen in the meantime? Where are you going to get the nickel and copper from? And if the demand is such, the prices for these things are going to escalate and the demand for, you know, explorers that have tough white exploration programs underway. Well, there are prices. We're going to finally get our day in the sun. And we've been waiting for 10 years for that. And, you know, I truly invite the investors to have a hard look at Montoral and see the opportunities that lie where they're with it. Let's have a look at the next one. Again, I'm not quite a hockey stick, but this is China. China's already, you know, a couple of years back, they had a smog again. I mean, they were suffocating in Beijing. People were dying thousands a day in China. Can't breathe, breathing, lacking a breathing brings about cardiac arrest, don't you know? And if you can't breathe, your heart's not beating your dick. And that's what happened. They had a, just a horrid smog attack in Beijing. The people evacuated the city, all jumped in their cars. I didn't know, I saw a helicopter shot. They got like 20, 30 lane highways there. And everybody's in their car, but the cars can't go anywhere. So they're trying to escape the smog and they're trapped in their cars. They were in their cars for two days in this traffic jam. It's an unprecedented, it's just so they can breathe. So the government in China and the infinite wisdom, they said, well, that's it, you know, we can't have a country if we can't breathe in it. And about two years ago, they turned the back on coal and they were building like a coal generated electrical plant, one a day, every day. All the ones that were being built, that construction stopped and they shut down like 1600 more. And this December, you know, we didn't see this, they actually turned the corner. You know why they turned the corner? Cause five percent of the vehicles on the road right now are electric. And the Chinese government is right behind this. And everybody in China is right behind it too, because they like breathing. That's funny, they're funny like that. They like to breathe. Well, it's a need. It's not a want anymore. It's a need, right? So for their survival. Big part of the equation driving us forward, you know, we've had the trade war of China and America and a lot of people thought that that was gonna hurt the demand. But in fact, the manufacturers in China, they didn't, just cause there's a trade war, doesn't mean they're still stopped building things. And surprise, surprise, the copper warehouse inventory's dropped and the nickel inventory's dropped to record lows and the prices are going up. Supply and demand. Finally, that equation is kicking in. And here's the demand for you. I mean, the penetration for electric field, cause you might have signed that a little bit up so people can see it from the bottom. It's part of that chart. No, the other way, Rich. The other way. This is, these are months. Okay, this chart is in years. This is the demand increase over the next year. Okay, we're going to go from 100 to 200. I mean, they are making electric buses like there's nobody's business. BYD, our friend Mr. Buffett bought a big chunk of that. He's a smart guy. He saw the trend. Oh God, the BYD's they're doing, oh, Chili's bought a whole fleet of electric buses. London, they got double-decker buses. They're electric BYD buses. It's, you know, you gotta wake up. You're not, you're not, you're not, you're not ordering grass for your horses. It's just a matter of time until they start having electric motorcycles. I have, I have two electric bicycles. Yep. I'm talking about motorcycles. They're like electric choppers. I bought them, they came from China. Yeah, yeah. Electric motorcycles are really a thing. Absolutely a thing. Harley's turned their back on, Harley's turned their back on the ICE engine. They're going all electric too. Chevy says, the lady running Chevy at GM, she says, you know, we're going to go all electric. That's it. There's no turning back. We're going to lose money for years, but we're turning back or we're going that way. Ford called them into bed with Volkswagen, building an electric vehicle plant in Shenanuga. I mean, the Germans, oh, they, the Germans. You know, after that diesel gate, they really had to dig in, okay? They did some bad, bad things. And they are turning their back on electric vehicles. I've lost track, is it 45 billion, 100 billion? It's big money they're spending to build electric vehicles. And we're going to start seeing, I think, I know that the Volkswagen, Volkswagen and Ford deal, they, we should start seeing some of those electric vehicles, which are kind of nice electric vehicles coming out of that Chattanooga factory, hopefully before the end of the year. But it's the times days is changing. Either you jump on the trend or you get left behind. Let's have a next slide. Now, nothing like a little history lesson for you. And all you pot and, you know, blockchain and Bitcoin investors, let me tell you a little story. And here it is right here. You see this chart? This is a, you got to go up a little bit more, scroll it up a little bit more so you can go to the bottom of the chart. History says now might be the time to rotate and rotate in the commodities. Now, in this chart, it's timing, right? So we see the oil crisis. We see the golf crisis, the crash of 2008. We don't see the crash of 87 here, but that happened right before the oil crisis. The point being is when a bubble bursts, that is your signal, your blinding light. I mean, I've had an epiphany signal that when a bubble bursts, it's time to go into the commodities. And that's what they're saying here. Now, I remember when, I don't have it on here, I have it on the next, the dot com bubble. There it is, classic burst. Now, everybody's buying like dog.com and bobsuruncle.com and, you know, they do, they do IPOs coming out at a dollar. The stock could go to $20 because it was menia. Menia, you know, people are just like, oh, well, when the bubble burst, at that time, all the people put in the money in these goofy dot com deals. I mean, there's big ones that became huge, like you got the Google, the Facebook, yeah, Amazon. But a lot of them would just burn people right out. And at the time of the dot com was running, gold was under $300 an ounce. But you wanted to buy an IPO at a dollar on dog.com. When you didn't see the trees for the forest, it says gold's $300 an ounce. It's like $1,300, $1,200 an ounce now. So when the dot com bubble burst, gold went from 300 to 800 bucks. And then if you held gold stocks, while your multiple factor was like two, three times, those stocks went up. So that led us into, you know, we go to the top here, the financial crisis of 2008, another bubble bursting. Well, we, the mining sector, and when that bubble burst into the crash there, the mining sector had his, right after that, when that bubble burst, we had the biggest run up ever. And that was in 2010, 2011, when the TSX venture got up to 2000. And so many people made so much money, they retired. I got about a half dozen friends I don't talk to anymore because they're too busy spending the money they made after the crash. You know, they just all got incredibly wealthy. Where are we now? Well, I think we can call Bitcoin dead. That bubble burst, 20,000 to 4,000, yeah, that's a burst bubble. And with caution, you're going forward on the plot deals. I like plot deals, I like the whole plot thing. I'm heavily involved, I was heavily involved with normal. To get the plot loss changed, and yeah, we did that. So, and let's just wake up and smell the coffee. I seen the ads in Oregon. So your pot stocks here gone to Oregon. And the way I say Oregon, folks, when after this summer, when Canadians, come on, Canadians are going to get to grow their own pot. Who's going to buy pot from the internet? Who's going to go sit at a government store? Now you'll be trading your pot back and forth for your buddies, I'm growing like, I can grow plants that are three, four pounds of plant. You're going to let me grow four of them? I can't smoke that much pot. I'm going to trade it, right? So what I say here today, gone to Oregon, and caution people about the pot bubble, possibly bursting over the next 18 months, is because Oregon's the perfect example. They got signs on the road there. $40 an ounce, we're paying the tax. $50 Canadian by an ounce of pot. I'm not growing it, I'll tell you that much. And this is a cautionary note. So again, this is a graphic that shows when to rotate into commodities, and which is like mining companies are commodities, and it's the time, the time has arrived. Flip to the next one. This is Bloomberg again, it's like we don't make this up. Another one, the same chart, bang. Bubble burst by the commodities. Bubble burst by the commodities. Bubble burst by the commodities. And you can see on this trend line that where we are, and that's because we've been in a 10 year bear market, that's where we are now. It's time to buy, the signals are all here. These are historical facts, this is from S&P. And you got a double bubble burst. The pot bubble is doing well, but who are the geniuses that had the balls when sessions decided he was going to attack pot to step into the pot market, because all the pot stocks should get a bottom all for a penny for a fraction of what they're trading at now. No one had the colonies to do that, they didn't have this foresight, it was a guess. But the people that held on to the pot stocks, they really made the money. So it's timing into it, and what I'm talking about is the opportunity historical timing for commodities. So the timing is now. The reality is guys that are watching the timing is right now. No, and it's right there on the chart. So let's have a look at another one in this slide. Folks, you can either win or lose if you don't run the race. You don't have to buy, if you're looking at Montoro and you say, okay, yeah, I like that guy's what he's got to say. I like the company, the price is right, the timing's right, commodity sector's just about to blow up. Nickel, come on, nickel warehouses, copper warehouses, they're at all time lows. This is the time. You don't have to buy $100,000 with the Montoro if you want to take a position, but make sure you have a little bit. You have a little bit of a pickup enough, not so you're hurt. So this is your speculative money. This is 10% of your portfolio. I am suggesting to you a strong case to enter into Montoro, put it in your portfolio. Within months, we'll be drawing this thing. We hit, and I could send. Boyzie Bay was 30 cents. It went to $156 a share, okay? So buying our six cents, if we go at $6 a share, I'll be ecstatic. Of course, Greg, if anyone was watching, are there any large institutional investors that are looking for our currently already in international Montoro Resources Inc? No, we have, it's again, 10 year bear market. The herd goes one way, you know, might be off a cliff, but the herd moves one way. And like here, for example, straight up, a CSE at the PDAC, which I attended, made a lot of investors, found a lot of new investors. The CSE had a talk and they said, okay, last year, 2018, $4 billion was raised for pot deals, $200 million for mining deals. So you can't go against the herd, even if the herd's heading off a cliff, but if you, we can stop and watch them. And in that disproportional, $4 billion to $200 million, that, you know, there's not a lot of big thinking in there, but if you just take the money, if they're gonna give you the money, you take it, that's, you know. I remember before this pot stock craze, it was gold. I mean, 10 years ago, it was gold. Everyone was throwing money into gold, gold, gold, gold, gold. Now everyone's throwing money into pot and they're forgetting about gold. They're forgetting about nickel, they're forgetting about copper, they're forgetting about lithium, they're forgetting about vanadium. You know, everything that you're talking about, you know what, I think what you're saying is 100% true. And I love, you're getting me excited. You're getting me excited about buying commodities. I'm not gonna lie. Well, you know, I'm trying to show, this would say, you guys, the timing's right. The historical charts show you time and time again. And now we are at lower, so the bounce for us is gonna be ginormous. And I think 2019 is a turning point that the TSX venture is gonna come out of this 600 point range. If it goes to 1200 or 2,000 points, there's 1,600 companies that are gonna double or triple. You don't have to, you know, if you find the ones that have got a good project, the ones that have hung on to their properties for 10 years through a bear, a double bear market. And it's scratched and cajoled and bag investors that helped fund us to move our project forward, bless them. These are the companies that have earned your trust. You know, we're not two years old. We're not a new shell on the CSE that's got a CBD oil. Montoro's 35 years old. We haven't gone anywhere. We're here to stay and our goal is find a mine. And it's always been find a mine. We've got other properties. We've got Uranium and Saskatchewan. We've got Rareer from British Columbia. We've got some nice property in Quebec that we might have, that we've optioned to a mining company and that they might be taking into production. We're waiting to find out. Be nice to get some revenue that we actually could take that box, mine, yeah. We'll keep our getting mining revenue. We found that property and that mining company option and now they're mining our ground, that's mining. You're getting checks from mining, that's the business. But nothing's going to be to discovery like this. And I don't mean to put the words. You can see from the data set how awfully close we were to making a world-class discovery. And you can look at the data set because we've been blessed with getting the data from Valley for Boise Bay and we can measure ourselves to them. And we're here, they're there. They're 41,000 nanotesla, we're 57 nanotesla. That's 57,000 nanotesla, an unprecedented score for magnetic minerals. It's a beautiful target. It's a beautiful target. I'm truly thrilled and blessed to have this opportunity but it hasn't been coming easy. I worked with this company consulting on it in about 12 years and it's been hard-sugging. Our day in the sun is coming. That's about it. I think that's it. That's all I got to say. If anybody, are we live or are we not? We're just recording. Rich, Rich is lost. Yeah, I'm here, I'm here. Sorry. Are we recording this live or are we on, are we just going to come back and do it? No, we're recording it. It's not live, but we're recording it. Okay. All right. And what I did is stopped the share because we went through the share and we've been doing this video for over an hour. So I think we should cut it out pretty soon. Yeah, I know, I'm fine. I went on too long, but that's a squeeze. What I'll do is I'll edit the video, Greg. So any dead air or whatever, I'll cut it. And what I'm going to do at this point is I'm just going to do the exit. So thank you very much for your time, Greg. Yes, thank you for having me, Rich. I really appreciate this opportunity to tell our story. My pleasure. And I look forward to international Montour resources. We'll be watching very closely. For those of you guys that are watching, take a look at International Montour Resources. You heard the entire explanation of why Greg believes that it is at the bottom and it has enormous upside. Thank you very much for your time, Greg. I wish you the best of luck in your future endeavors. We'll be watching International Montour Resources. Very closely, IMT in Canada. And what's the US symbol? It's IMTFF. Thank you guys for watching. Have yourselves a great day. Remember, if you're not winning, you're not watching. This is your boy, Rich, from Rich2VLive, with Greg Sifrensky, the Investor Relations Consultant for International Montour Resources. I'm out. Peace. Thanks, Rich.