 My name is Sophia Masuka, and I work with Tanzania Natural Resources Forum as the communication and advocacy coordinator. We should first understand that communities are the ones who are being affected by these wildlife, such as elephants. And it is very important for them to voice out their concerns or whatever they are suffering with regards to these animals. And when we talk about IWT, illegal wildlife trade, meaning themselves being living adjacent to those good resources, the wildlife, they know better more than any other people around in those national park or protected areas. So it is very important for them to speak about it whenever illegal activity is conducted in their area or is happening in their areas, since they know better more than us. And that is where we get these concepts and ideas of incorporating indigenous knowledge while addressing IWT. When we talk about sustainability, it embraces its house two folds. The first one, it depends on what kind of a speech in that certain protected area. For instance, I have two experience on multiple land use whereby communities live in harmony with wildlife. For instance, in Gorongoro conservation area, they have that kind of strategy whereby masses has been there in that land and they live in harmony with wildlife, since they don't believe in killing animals. And on the second fold, it is better to clear their ways, the corridors, the areas or the lands that is very potential to them. For instance, elephants, they have the certain route that they always pass through those routes. So these circumstances depends with what kind of a speech that you want to clear or to have a good habitat for them.