 January 9th, 2023, for the Rochester Select Board meeting which has been posted physically in three places and on the website and emailed to interested parties, right? So we can move forward with this meeting and I'd like to start off with the minutes from the last meeting of December 26th. So there was- There was one typo. Yeah, there was one typo and I found another one on the back page, just a little S on the end of your name. Oh yeah, Franks. Yeah, Franks, they want to confuse you with someone else. So, hot dog. Yeah, I would move to approve the minutes with those questions. I second. All in favor? All right. Okay, okay, good. And we've got, well, the first item on the agenda is the Treasurer's Report of December. Thank you for putting that together. And it looked pretty straight up with me. I didn't see any glaring issues to do. No, nothing that- No, I didn't- It won't be addressed pretty soon anyway. Right, right. So I'd move to approve that. I second. All in favor? All right. Okay. And it comes on to the crowd in the room with the library trustees. Treasurer's crowd. Yeah, we've got the majority. Which is exciting, the topic we get to talk about tonight, which is the BDOL Federal Funding Grant opportunity. Do you want to speak with- Sure. Where's that? Hi, I'm Kelly Kelly, representing the, I'm the chair of the library trustees. So back in December, this public facilities preservation initiative grant was signed into law. Long story short, there's $10 million coming to the Vermont Department of Libraries to be used for rural library building maintenance issues, which is us. So we have a very once in a lifetime golden opportunity to access these funds. The grant application has not been opened yet, but it will be anytime. They anticipate sometime in January or February. We need to jump on this immediately as soon as the application process is open. So with that being said, we're going to need estimates for the building issues that I've given you in the handout, which we're all well aware of and these issues are only getting worse. They're, you know, they're never going to get better. We have to deal with this. So why I'm here tonight is, well, first of all, Jeff Gephart has been working on a preliminary bid for a lot of this work. And unfortunately, he had a medical emergency today. So that's why he's not here. So I'm kind of pinch hitting. So bear with me. So what we're here to ask of you is that when he gets this bid packet together or the preliminary bid is for your approval to get the bids out. I mean, I don't know what the process is for you guys to advertise for bids for town buildings, but that's what we need. It's just the commitment that we can do this because we can't let this opportunity pass us by. So that's kind of where we're at. I don't know how the bids will work on something like that because nobody's going to give you a price from what we've checked into already because nobody knows the extent of the damage that's there. So a bid packet is just going to be tough to get that way. I mean, we talked about it at length before with other people and there's just nobody that's going to say it's going to cost you 50,000 to do this because they just don't know what the damage is. Well, I think Jeff has a lot more insight into that because he's been over there a lot. I know he's been dealing with it quite a bit. He might have some more information than I would. Again, the grant application process has not been released yet, but as soon as it is, we're going to need to jump on it. Has there any water shown up in that bucket on the second floor? I don't know the answer to that, Jeanette. Are you on Zoom? Do you know, Tony? She's got her hand up. I've never seen any either where every time I've been up there. So I wonder if that is really an issue with that building. There's no leaks inside anywhere else. I don't know. Go ahead. Jeanette? There's, you can see on the ceiling and you can see on the floor where there are water stains. I'll use the word. About four years ago now, Jim Harvey went up into the attic and removed a trash bag full of sopping wet insulation and identified exactly what the problem was, which has never been fixed. So over this time, I assume we're just getting more soggy insulation in the ceiling. But it- Okay, we need to check on something to check. We'll make sure. Okay. So we don't know what this application looked like in terms of how specific it could be. Yeah, everything that's on this piece of paper is basically what we've gotten. What we've gotten, yeah. So there's nothing that we haven't shown you. So we're kind of in a holding pattern, but the second it gets released, we wanna get on this. Yeah. Well, I vote for it. So I don't know, bids versus estimates, you know, even if it's not a specific bid for the job, if someone could at least have an estimate of what the work would be, it might satisfy it to be able to submit the grant. Potentially, yeah. Yeah, but like I said, Jeff has got more specific. But if they need actual bids, I don't know how long the bid process takes when you guys put something out to bid. I mean, do you have to advertise it and it takes weeks a month? I mean. Depends on the cost. Yeah. Oh, with the amount of. You know, anything over 10,000 have to get three bids on for something like that. And how long do you usually take? You know, you put it out to bid and you have to have the bids by two weeks. Yeah, you get three contractors to come in and look at it and give you three bids. Or you put it out in the paper to see if you can get three contractors to come and even put a bid on it. Right. I did have a conversation with Nailer and Green over there because of that outside, looking at it is gonna take a crew to do something with it. It's not gonna be just some guy off the street that could do that project. It's a lot bigger than just one person. So, you know, we'll do what we can. Right. It says that you need estimates. So, it's not really something at this point where you need to go out to bids before the grant. You would go out to bids after you have the money. Okay. Right now, you do just need estimates and they would just be what they are. Yeah. Estimate something. Just get anybody to estimate it. A basis for it. And then raise it. A little. Yeah. Like 30%. Like 30%. Yeah. Well, I think that's what Jeff is doing is getting together some numbers. Yeah. And that would be your estimate. Well, actually, no, Jeff, what Jeff is trying to do is write up a draft of a advertisement looking for estimates. Right. Right. But that's still not going out to bids, really, necessarily. You're not gonna get it out. I'm sorry. Here in Zoomland, we can't understand Patty in some of the other conversation. It's very muffled. You wanna say what you said again, Potter? Don't know what you said. Thank you. There's still a difference between an estimate and a bid. So going out and seeking estimates, the contractor knows that he's not making a formal do or die bid. He's just doing an estimate for this point in time. Some contractors don't mind doing that and others are a little allergic to doing estimates, but everyone seems to recognize it as a necessary part of getting the job. So if they do the estimate and you get the grant, they potentially could end up getting the job. So, and this one has a 2026 date which could be attractive to somebody, saying it's going out for three years. You have three years to get this project done. So if it was something that needed to be done by the end of 2023, it might be difficult to even get estimates from somebody. But I think that you have a lot of elbow room to help get that done. I think our concern- We have a nice long timeline to get the work completed, but we have an extremely short timeline on the grant application. They expect to do approvals this spring, but then yes, we do have a few years to actually do the work, but without the estimate to put on the grant application, you know, our hands are tied. But Jeff is out seeking those estimates, correct? Putting that package together. I guess I would encourage him to, to in the estimates, you don't have to necessarily put those in the paper. You can go and start calling. They were in green or what have you. Yeah, just let somebody look at it, give you a rough ballpark. Yeah, so I think that's, encourage Jeff to jump on that and whatever support we could offer. If he gives us a list of people to call or if he wants to do it, we could order, you guys do it. I think his plan is to get that done this week. Is that correct, Jeanette? Well, with two family members with critical medical issues, he wasn't able to make a commitment to finish by this the end of the week. Hopefully by next week, but what we're looking for tonight is a commitment from the select board to, you know, immediately put this out, looking for estimates so we can have a very quick turnaround. So you want, you want us to move Jeff's work aside and start doing this? No, I don't think that's what she means. Okay. No, but if we could, if Jeff is tied up, if he could hand off his research and his list, you know, could I'm sure, you know, someone else could pick up the ball and run with it. You know, if he's, I guess it's a matter of, how far he's progressed in terms of, you know, who he thinks is approachable. Okay. I guess my question is Dune, will it be the select board who's contacting these contractors asking for estimates or is it the library that is authorized by the select board to go out looking for the estimates? I would be happy to authorize the library to go out and look since they're very close to these projects and what the issues are. Are you doing that? Yeah, I'm fine with that. They want to do it. I've got enough on my plate, that's for sure. But yeah, if they want to get estimates for that, that's fine. Go right ahead. And if you get in a situation where someone wants to hear it from the select board, not the library, but I would think it's, like I said, it's not a hard bid, it's just an estimate. So, and then also, as we're collecting these estimates, we would be developing a list of who to approach for bids in the future once the grant is awarded. Okay. I'm not gonna say might be awarded. I think you'd have to talk to somebody for the outside there, Jeanette, like, Bredlo, or, I agree. What's that? I agree. We're bringing them. Neil and Breen, Bredlo, so a bigger contractor, that's for sure. Give you an estimate on, one through five, all five points. Yeah. Yeah. They would give you, rather than piece of mail. Plus this money will probably come with federal requirements, demands that a bigger company is more likely to handle than just a small contractor. Right. Now, we have no idea. These are competitive bids. There is $10 million. We don't know how the Department of Library is going to do this. Like if there's gonna be a, well, of course there'll be a ceiling on the amount that you can ask for. But if there is some sort of a match, or if the amount of the grant is not the total amount of the estimate to do the work, I guess the question is, how much can the select board authorize? I don't know how much money is in the current building reserve account or any ARPA funds, but how much, I'll just call it matching money would be available via the select board. We'll discuss it once we know what that number is. Let's cross that bridge when we get to it. That's all we can do on that. Yeah, I think first, we worry about getting our foot in the door for the money. One thing in our favor is, I believe Rochester is identified as economically depressed areas, which is one of the highlighted features of their priorities for allotting this money. But in terms of what we can match, I guess we'll see how far we can go with, what we get from them. You can't really throw that number out now. Well, a lot of grant applications will actually have as part of the application, the understanding of a match. Right, when we see that, then we'll know where we stand. And then when we get the estimates, we'll know where we stand for the other half, the other half of the information. How much is it gonna cost and how much do we have to contribute? Okay, so once the grant application is in hand, outside of a select board meeting, which of course are only every two weeks, who would have the authority to say if the grant application says we need a 20% match? So we know how much the estimate is. We know how much 20% is. I will need someone who can authorize signing off on a grant asking for a percentage of a match. Well, again, that one, we'll cross that bridge when we get to it. I mean, would even though the standard select board meetings are every two weeks, when there are time sensitive issues, we can hold a special meeting and deal with situations like that. Okay, all righty. Thank you, Dune. Yep. Anybody else, anything to talk about there? All right. Thank you. It's some exciting opportunity. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it sounds very, almost like we have to sail without us. Pardon me. We don't want the ship to sail without us. No, I think this is, yeah, I think we have to give it a try anyway. That's about all we can do. Okay, thank you very much for your time. The number three on our agenda is the annual highway mileage certificate, which is for the state just to keep track of whether we've increased or reduced the miles of town highways, which I believe there's been no changes to see. It would change anything, it is. Kind of roll along. So I guess we can set that, send that along. I second that. All in favor? Aye. All right, all right. And that's due February 20th, so we're really on top of that one, huh? Yeah. Yeah. Does that have to be something to do with it? I didn't see a signature on that, I think. Maybe I'm back, so I'll do it now. No, that was okay. We're gonna fill in the blanks, too. Yeah. Okay, that was, I see we missed the number for discussion of the high school vote, but I think that slide in there, we'll call that 3.5. Yeah. Yeah, all right. So we had tentatively, months ago, talked about perhaps folding a vote on whether or not the town would vote to acquire the high school building around the town meeting this year, the spring. And it's, I believe, our feelings now that in light of what we have learned about the building and the fact that it's now in the Brella-Brownfield program and awaiting even more information about what is to be uncovered, that we're still waiting more information, and I don't think that it's time to have a vote yet. And what do you guys think? I have something I can read. All right. These are- Speak up for the hour. Minutes from a high school repurposing committee meeting from December 21st, and I will just read the message. It's not terribly long. Vic introduced Liz to the committee. She is a consultant with much experience in Vermont community development projects. She has been retained for a limited period of time to assist the high school committee with creating a roadmap for continuing this project. Her experience tells her that with this type of project, there are typically many unpredictable twists and turns and that it takes much longer than expected to complete. Dick, Dick Robson provided an update on the floodplain and floodway issues and they have concluded that they have a solution in mind and that would include further subdividing to remove the floodway from the flood and only have floodplain as a hazard. We think we can solve the problem by subdividing and removing the small parcel of high school land that lies in the floodway and giving it back to the school. However, it's hard to know what agency will approve that as a solution and when. Liz advised that we not wait but begin now to pursue the subdivision. The site will need to be surveyed to document the subdivision and again, all of the neighbors will need to be notified with a 30 day notice and then legal will have to take over. So I anticipate that process alone to take up to three months. Liz shared her screen showing a working draft of a schedule for the project having to do with the Dabrella project. It's printed very small but typically there are points that will be going beyond the town meeting day that maybe points that we would not want to have unanswered for the town vote. For the town vote, we would be presenting information that's not complete at that time. The hazmat testing has not started yet. It's going to start in February. It's not going to conclude until May. The Dabrella project goes through the end of April and the hazmat remediation plan actually will take the better part of this year. So it looks as though we really are not in any further information, we don't have any further information than we did a year ago when we decided not to do the vote last year. So I think that it's unfortunate that the wheels of government do turn very slowly sometimes and that we would like to probably proceed but it just doesn't seem feasible that we would be proceeding with presenting the townspeople with any viable information for them to make a decision. If we don't even have this information ourselves and we have our thumb right on what's going on here and we still don't have information that we should. That call was from Catherine Shankman who says she's dialing in and wants to talk. I think it's a possibility that she disconnected because she's not here anymore. That number went away. That number went away? Yep. I just have Martha, Robert. Okay, I'll call her and tell her to sign up. Yeah, and Troy. In the meantime, Rob Gardner has his hand up. Can we take his? Sure. Yep, can you hear me? Hold on just one second, Rob. I'm letting Catherine in now. Are you letting her in? Yep, I just saw her. Okay, so Catherine's joining. Rob's got his hand up. You guys let me know what you want to do. Can you hear me? Yeah, Catherine, I understand you're back and the meeting will let Rob talk and then let you, I understand you have information to share. Okay. Go ahead, Rob. Am I on? Yep, you're on. I want to say it's almost impossible to hear Pat. I wonder if she can move close to the microphone or something. Try moving the microphone a little bit closer to her. Is that better? Thanks. Is that better? I'm trying. Martha's shaking her head now. I think I hit a button. Oh, you did? It looks like a mute button. If it's muted, it turns, the whole thing turns red. Oh, okay. Yep. It's all right. Is there a plus button on there? Like a plus or minus? Can you get the plus up a hundred times? Yep, it's on a hundred. It's showing on my computer. I don't know. But just talk louder, Pat. All righty then. Did she get anything? She's right here. She's only about three feet away from it, Rob. Okay. Can you hear me? Is, maybe I should talk lower. Can I? No? So. And I thought this was just my husband's problem. Maybe you can hear me. Maybe it's in his house. Rob's back on mute. Did you, is that all you had? Is that all you had? Rob was to let us know that. No questions? Well, yeah, except almost all of her presentation about the high school building, I couldn't hear. So, but I don't think she needs to do it again. Just complaining. Okay, can you hear me at all now? Very low, I can hear you. Yeah, I can understand you, but you're quite low. But you're better than you were, thank you. Okay. What I was saying is that I was speaking from minutes from a December 21st meeting of the High School Repurposing Committee. How are we doing? Good. Where they hired a lady called Liz Curry as their consultant. And she advised them that this type of project that they're entering into has many unpredictable twists and turns, and that it takes much longer than expected to complete. The solution for the floodway and floodplain issue can be resolved by going into a subdividing once again. The subdividing will require another survey to take place. And besides the cost of the survey, the adjoining, budding landowners would need to be notified for a 30 day period. And then there would be legal to drop new deeds. So I anticipate that to be another three months down the road at that point. Perhaps that would remove the floodway problem, but we would still be gifted with the floodplain issue in anything that we apply for for grants. So with that said on that, we're also looking at a timeline with the Brella program that is going on. And I'm sure Catherine will probably bring some updated information into this. The hazmat testing on their spreadsheet is starting on February 5th and expects to be completed by May 6th of this year. That puts it beyond the town meeting. And so we would wanna have that information at hand to present to the voters. So we're thinking of delaying the vote beyond town meeting day and hopefully have a vote maybe sometime during 2023 in a special meeting. Thank you. I understood all of that. Thank you. Okay. Catherine, if you can unmute or maybe I can unmute you. I almost wonder Catherine, if once you get on there and you mute your phone if you're sort of stuck that way, I don't know if you wanna get out and I can let you back in. I'm not sure, but you're still muted. So you could just call me back and I could put it on speakerphone here. Or I could go get the other phone. If you wanna call Dune's cell phone, Catherine, he can put you, okay, bye. She's gone. Okay. I bet she'll call you. All right, here we go. Hey there. So I'm just gonna give you an update. Let me just quickly say about the floodway. It was determined that by our own zoning commission that we don't need to do anything more than a property adjustment, property boundary adjustment and the school has voted to okay that. So now it's back to Dubois King and they're doing the survey for that property boundary adjustment. So it's very minimal. And the other thing is the floodway remediation is just putting in sealing off that door where the water came in during Irene, which is the lower door on the left side of the auditorium and then just putting in another door further up that aisle. So I just wanted to update you on the environmental assessments based on meetings this week with Sarah Wright and the crew. So two rivers themselves have used up their grant funds. They're now depleted but we were in there for all of our phase one. The consultants finished that and we are still waiting for the reports which we are expected to get by the end of the month. When we get that phase one report, which should be released as I just said, that it would be best for the town to be fully enrolled in the Brella program. They put in their application and the next step is up for the town to speak with Sarah Bartlett at the Department of Environmental Conservation and do what they call a pre-application interview. So Pat, if you wanna do that, Vic and I will join you in that call to fully support you. But that is very important. They're waiting for us to initiate that call so we can become fully enrolled in the Brella program. So the hazmat assessment will assess the PCBs, the lead, the mold, and any asbestos and that's to be released by mid-March. So upon completion of phase one and the hazmat assessment, phase two can then begin and this involves the physical examination of the property and testing. It will determine if the hazmats are below the established level or not. If they are below the established levels then there's no more work to be done. If they're above the threshold levels then more testing may be required and in that case also remediation options be identified. So the town should definitely be fully enrolled by Brella before phase two begins in order to be eligible for state funding for testing and cleanup. There is plenty of money. It just won't come from two rivers. And that, so the Department of DEC, Department of Environmental Conservation will be a good source of that. So the phase two sampling work should take about three months and if there's no snow cover on the property, therefore if phase two starts in March then the completion of phase two could be expected around August assuming the normal processing timelines. Thus the town's yes-no vote on the acquisition would be better informed with all the information from the comprehensive environmental assessment after August given the timeline that I just gave and we just received this timeline this week. It's the first time it was ever given to us from two rivers. So the cleanup work plan would then follow the sampling work and that would take another three months. And then remediation and cleanup, the time requirement will depend of course on what they discover there. So the town does not have to actually own the site to enroll in Brella. And neither does the site have to make the town have to make a commitment to acquiring the building until after phase two is complete. So there's no risk to the town. In fact, there's every reason for the town to go through this process right on through phase two. Also as we're told having the town as the applicant as the potential buyer of the property for cleanup funds is more advantageous than having any kind of private entity or nonprofit or developer. So then I wanna also speak about the underground 10,000 fuel tank gallon fuel tank. So the removal of that buried oil tank during phase two process is important so that the soil below the tank can be assessed for the presence of oil and above ground replacement oil tank which may not have to be to the extent of the capacity but the ones underground now could be temporarily installed to make sure the building maintains a level of heat. The other thing, all right. So does anybody have any questions about that? That was a lot of information and I will definitely email it to Martha and to the select board for your better digestion of the information that I just gave. Is there any question? No. Did anybody hear me? Yes. Can you explain that very clearly? Martha had to end up on this. So I'm glad I'm not talking to myself here. No, no. I just wanted to say, I think I've been having trouble hearing people a little. I think I heard Catherine say she might be emailing what she was talking about to me and I would really appreciate if that was possible by tomorrow morning because I would have to write it up for the paper tomorrow. To the select board and to Martha and to anybody else who would like to have that email to them, they just have to let me know. Just email me. Thank you, Catherine. Thank you, Catherine. I appreciate it very much. And then I want to just also say that because I'm a member of the RSUD heat task force that I want to announce to the select board that the school district reversed itself about heating the school for next winter. They are including it in the budget. And so far it looks like all three legs of the proposal for the heating are all on board. There'll be no problem covering the heat for this winter. So I thought that might come as a relief to the town to know that that's all being done and covered and that the school board is going to take over next year for heating the building. Great. Thank you. Is that it? That's what I had to say. I'm going to put a report together for Julie's for Julie getting it to her. When was that deadline, Julie? Next week. Next week. Yeah. What day next week? If you can get it to me in the earlier in the week, it's great, but the middle of the week is fine. All right. Well, thank you, Catherine. I'm glad we were able to overcome the technological glitches here and get you in the meeting. Yeah, I don't understand it. Zoom kept saying that the host was muting me, but it sounded like you were unmuting me and I was not on mute, so I don't know what the problem was. Yeah. Oh, maybe automatically mute the phone. I don't know. Okay, but we overcame it. Thank you. Okay. Yeah. I'm going to take you off the phone, but you can still hang to hear the rest of the meeting, I think. Yes, that I do. Yeah. Okay. Well, that's nice that they agreed to heat the building. Next year. Next year. That sounds like they got it together for this year, too. All right. Now we're on to item four on our agenda, which is the... Do we need to vote on anything that we aren't going to vote on that or... We decided that we're not going to be voting. Yeah, we just, I think it's clear and that we're not announcing a vote for that, I don't think we have to vote that we're not voting. Right, well, yeah, I think it's clear to everybody. It's pretty clear that we are voting on it, anyway. The Hey Neighbor Community event, which was announced at the last meeting, has been changed to March 12th to be determined location from 11 till three. And if people weren't at the last meeting, not sure what this is about, it's for people that might be new to the town or that have been here for a long while, or if they have services to provide or business in the community or looking for employment opportunities, looking for employees, looking for volunteer opportunities. Basically, this is just a welcome mat to the community, to newcomers and old comers alike. And that's what that is. So I guess we'll, in a future meeting, we will announce where exactly that will be held. I have a couple items you can put in now or later. Well, go for it. VLCT has informed us that with the legislative session coming in, one of the first things they're going to work on is a temporary act, Act 78, that was put in place for allowing towns to have their meetings by a Zoom. That Act 78, there's 77 and 79 are also part of it. Sunsets, JRA 15, therefore, after that, there's no more actual requirement for Zoom. Although, so our next meeting could be susceptible where we could not do it via Zoom unless we still voted ourselves. But I do believe that the legislature is going to extend that because it seems to be a very popular avenue for people to attend meetings. So they anticipate that these acts will be extended into a permanent Zoom platform, will be acceptable across the board. But at this point in time, we're still in the temporary one until January 15th. And in January 15th, there will be no more Zoom participation. So. Is it optional or it will be not authorized? I think that's what they're going to vote on. They're going to vote on. Yeah. Right. So that's just a tidbit. Martha has a comment on your tidbit. Yeah, I'm sorry. I couldn't hear it very well, but if my understanding that it's possible that after January 15th, you won't have Zoom anymore, Zoom meetings offered anymore unless the select board votes on to do it themselves. Is that what you said? Yes. Yes. Well, can I put in a vote for please, please, please, please? Could you keep the Zoom? I can't, I can't get to the meetings in person because I can't get up the stairs and the lift is unreliable sometimes. So it would be better. I mean, and I know there are other people that prefer to come via Zoom if possible like Jeff Kappart and others. So if it all possible, if you could continue to do it that way, I'd really appreciate it because I can do my job that way. I have the feeling the legislator, your legislators will vote on your behalf. Will vote what? I'm sorry. It will vote on your behalf to keep Zoom platform in the meetings. Okay, thank you. Sorry, I really am not having a hard time hearing you, Pat. I don't know why because, you know, normally don't, sorry. In something else, yeah. Yes, I have to find it to read it. Here we go. I should have printed it. There it is. No one's looking at it, it's fine. Okay. I got a letter via email from Deborah Pierce, State of Vermont today. Congratulations on your project's successful application to the 2022 Safe Routes to School Infrastructure Program. Your project was approved to improve the sidewalk extension and pedestrian crossings at Brook Street and Vermont Route 100 in Rochester. The project was selected among seven applications statewide. So that is a go as indicated in the application guide. These improvements will be designed, put out to bid and overseen by VTRANS. The town will be required to sign a grant agreement that will allow the state to perform work within the town highway right of way and committing to maintaining the improvements once constructed. Your project will be governed by the terms of the grant agreement with VTRANS including all applicable state and federal program requirements. They anticipate, we anticipate having our engineer begin working on the project no later than March of 2023. So this is something that will be 100% funded and is in the pipeline. It's a go. That's good timing because even with the lack of snow we've had that sidewalk is taking a pretty big hit. It sure has, yeah. Yeah, it knew that its time was up, I think. So that's great, thank you. Good, that is good. Right. Tony, did you have anything else from the library or is that we had a lot of library excitement earlier? Yeah, you did, we did. We will have a trustees meeting tomorrow at 5.30 at the library. So we're still working with, we're still having masks when people go in there. Yeah. Okay, that was him. I think yes, they do if they want to, yeah. Yeah, okay. All right. Yeah, anything from the highway? I had John look at, get some, just a look and see what it would cost to get a sweeper mounted on her bucket, a sweeper attachment for her bucket for a couple of reasons. For spring cleanup around the village and in park cleanup long term. And plus with all the new drainage at the bottom of right there by the firehouse and that pavement and what happens is all that silt is going to be running into that wastewater disposal there and it's going to cause a lot more clogging if we don't sew it in attachment. So we're still, I just got it this afternoon. Look at, he got one quote on it. So it's around 15 grand. I'm going to talk some to him about it and see if there's any other costs involved. I think it would be a handy piece of equipment to have and in the spring, especially for sidewalks we can sweep them off and clean up around the village a little bit, plus do the park in the spring when in the fall for leave removal and that stuff. They work pretty good on grass. So they can go through and clean stuff up a little bit. So I'm just weighing whether or not we want to even think about the money that way. So I just have to address that. But other than that, he's how is he keeping things going hopefully and everything's working so far. He's had a few problems, but not too many. Yeah, yeah. Knock on wood. Terry on Zoom or no? No. And Jeff Gipp Hart is out? Correct, no. Any updates on grants? Really just, well, that's a good one, Pat, that you gave. Yeah, Pat took one of my items, but it was yours to present, so good work on that. I have it. Oh, Nancy. So we submitted a tree grant also, the end of December. And we are not exactly sure when we'll hear whether we receive it or not. And that's a match grant in kind, is that correct? Two to one. Yeah, in kind. In kind. Was that for maintenance or new trees or both? It's for some new trees and planting, mulching. What kind of trees? The trees at the east end of the park and the south side of the park are green ash trees. And the state urban tree group feel that they are going to be most susceptible to the emerald ash borer and that we should be considering under planting because ultimately 13, no, is it 11 trees are probably going to be going. So if we start now, we'll have some height on those trees by the time this happens. What kind of trees are you thinking of planting? We're not exactly sure yet, but some of them will be some maple, but we're working with a, what do you call them, arborist. And the state will make some recommendations on trees also. All right. We'll get the money and then we'll go. See what happens, I'm here. They want to mix it up too. They don't want just any one brand around there. Yeah, that's an idea. It's a variety. Kind of put a variety. One of the problems is they're all ash on the east side and going down the south. And so they would like to, they recommend it being a variety of trees. Makes sense. And plus work on the secession planting that really needs to happen there. Some of those trees are in tough shape. And we had a lot of damage out there during that last storm. All right, we don't have anything under old business. Anything come to mind that you guys want to talk about? Any more grants? A little bit of grant stuff. A little bit of grant stuff. On December 30th, we received our second reimbursement for Fisk Road, our final reimbursement of $12,244.42. And then the last thing is we received the final West Hill contract today. We did find, Julie looked at it really quick and found a typo for the final sealed bid due date. It says in there Friday, February 9th, but that's actually a Thursday. And she responded asking if perhaps we could change that to Monday, February 13th for a select board meeting. So we're waiting to hear on that. And then once we get that, then we can get it sealed and sent off and then put up on Friday for the bid to go out. Yeah, so out of the bid in February? No, Friday. No, like Friday. It's like the 13th. Yeah. If you're okay, what? I sent it. We did, yes, thank you. Excuse me, Chris, in the second one, I didn't hear exactly what that was for. You received the final what? West Hill grant contract. West Hill grant contract, thank you. Thank you, sorry to bother you. Nope, it's okay. And Julie did email that to you guys if you want to take one final look at it. He's looking to meet with us on Thursday just to gear us up for Friday's bid release. And that's it. All right, so it was good. Anyone out in the public with any comments tonight? I think we've had enough. Zoom's quiet. Zoom's quiet. Well, thank you all for coming and probably not even an hour tonight. Right. So we'll put more wood in the fire. Thank you. Bye guys. Move to a chair. Thank you. Yeah. Pretty cool. You're making my favorite. Bye. Sorry. Thank you.