 We're glad to know that you're still there, it's still the run-up and this is the final lap of the journey today. And we, before now, we were talking with Badebo Rhodes-Vaivour, who is the governorship candidate for Labour Party in Lagos State. And it was giving us some points, you know, how Lagos can be better and how the youths can take the reins of leadership and what needs to be done and so many other things. And we got so many things that we could have still asked him or could have still discussed, but we ran out of time as it were. Baivour, are you still there and listening? Yes, of course, yes. So it was, for me, it was a very good eye-opener from Badebo, talking with us. I don't know what your take-out points are from the whole discussion with the governorship candidate. Well, he was, from my impression, is that he's quite aware of, you know, the opportunities as well as the challenges, you know, that Lagos presents. And he made some interesting comments on how he sees Lagos moving forward and, you know, especially in terms of improving the infrastructural capacity of the state, delivering a mass movement, transportation, for example, the blue and red lines with the current administration is about to commission. He had some other views on how to deliver sort projects much more quickly and how to expand them to the nooks and crannies. But I was quite intrigued and interested, you know, when he mentioned integrating Equipa diagram into the greater Lagos, because one of the challenges, you know, of every one of us in Lagos, because one of the challenges we face, which I'm sure that even the government of Lagos has been confronted with, is actually how to manage this to spend those populations of Lagos, you know, and how it's both an advantage, this huge population, and it can also be a disadvantage if it is not properly harnessed. So it was interesting to hear him articulating how, if he became governor, he would like to further provide opportunities for that massive population and then to bring Equipa diagram into the mix of things, so to speak, so that when you want to, for example, set up a factory, you are not only thinking of the solo or thinking of Agbara or thinking of other access, you can think of going to the factory or going to Equipa to set up a factory, as long as the infrastructure exists. And the only thing I would add to this would be it would be interesting to hear what other candidates for the, you know, for government position have to say, and I hope that since on Plus TV we are given an opportunity to candidates to come and interact and explain themselves, we will not have candidates dodging such opportunity, but they will take it and come and actually engage and articulate their plans. Yeah, I'm hoping they will be brave enough, other candidates will be brave enough to come around and talk to us how they can make our society better. But back home to us, just your personal opinion, there's also a problem, for instance, the congestions that we're talking about that also translate into what we see on the roads as a hold up everywhere, traffic everywhere. A percentage of this, what we suffer, I mean, on the roads and everywhere is because of the reasoning, the thinking of the average legotian. Sometimes it's not because the road is not there, but it's just because of maybe impatience, maybe a little fight has broken out somewhere between two drivers and all that. What do you think we, or can be done, not just we, what do you think can be done to make sure this small percentage that can be attributed to just the reasoning of the people can be corrected in, because there is this, now legos with this syndrome that we go through every day. People just feel if you are in legos, there's a certain way you have to behave so that people don't see you as not being smart enough and all that. How can we change that? It's worrisome for me as a person. It's really worrisome and whether we like it or not, the government has a role to play and this is where it's interesting because, I mean, like I said, to here hopefully we'll get the Nassongulu himself to come on the run-off, because the government has a role to play, so the candidates have to tell us. But more importantly than that, our orientation has to change. Our orientation has to change. I don't know if it was last year. I actually saw a video of the government of Legos, somewhere in Legos. I can't remember exactly where and there was some vehicles driving against traffic and he came out of his car. Interestingly, he was actually even discussing with them to say, what you're doing is wrong and there was a lady who said to him, this is not what you should be talking about. You should be making sure this traffic is not there in the first place. He took completely different things. He was trying to let them understand that it is wrong to drive against traffic and the other lady was vehement in her position. In other words, indirectly insisting that there was actually nothing wrong in people driving against traffic because they had to get to wherever they were going on time. But what was important was for the government to make sure that the traffic jam was not there. I mean, we've been to many countries. It's not all the time you. It's by your best efforts. You might still have traffic jam either because of an accident, because of people misbehaving on the way and so on and so forth. And I'm not hoping for it. But it just speaks to our orientation. People respecting traffic rules, open traffic rules, don't stop in the middle of the road to greet their friends. I mean, there are some really absurd things I have witnessed in Legos. When the green light went in the middle of the road. Sorry. As it's stopping to carry someone in the middle of the road, especially the yellow crosses and all that. Yes. And then I found somebody who went traffic. He didn't make any move until the traffic light changed to green. And then he stops to buy plantains. I see. And he was not apologetic. You could see this guy was a well-to-do person. So it wasn't a seed. It was educated, well-to-do person. So it tells you that this misbehavior is not the function of class or social strata. It permeates all, all, all, all social strata. But I'm just wondering, I'm wondering, who should drive this cause? Who is it that should be at the fore when we're fighting to change the psyche, that change the orientation of the people? Who should, who should carry that? I think platforms where we have a mass aggregation of people. Okay. I'm using, I'm using that expression God did me. Platforms where we have a mass aggregation of people. In other words, it could be a social media platform. I think we need to remind ourselves, whether you're on Facebook, you have a large followers, large grouping, WhatsApp grouping. We need to just keep reminding ourselves as we, you know, when you say the message, stay safe everybody, you say, we should also be saying, respect traffic rules, churches, mosques, anywhere you have an aggregation of people. Because it's absolutely important because you're right. Some of these bottlenecks are created by the indiscretion of road users. Not to even talk of the commercial vehicles, the agrarians who just jump in the middle of the road. And then you have people who refuse to use the pedestrian bridges. On the one hand, they criticize government for not giving them infrastructure. Then in those situations, we are going to actually not believe as infrastructure spends millions to put bridges there. They don't use it. They cross one under the bridges and they cause traffic jam. Okay. Well, we did, we did say earlier when we started the show, something about NNPC saying that depots do not work. According to the Ipman, the president said Nigeria is not doing enough to reduce population growth. And that is from NNPC population council. This day is saying 90% of Dihar Boko Haram fighters are dead. That's by the government. That's the declaration of the government. On from daily post, we hear that ASU, fresh protest rock universities as federal government remains adamant. That's no work, no pay, I'm sure. 2023, NAMDI Kanu's release will boost APC's chances in Southeast. That is from Adeonju. I'm sure it's Deji Adeonju. Aminu Adamu, Aisha Buhari deactivates Twitter account, Injury Warsons. You remember the young man who criticized the wife of the president and then he was arrested and locked up. And Twitter went agog. Everybody was talking about it. Some blamed her and expectedly some were in support of what she did. The young man criticized the wife of the president and that happened to him. I don't know which of these ones touched you, Bayo, from the ASU to everyone. Which one touched you more? Everything. First of all, the comments that a few depots of the Niger National Petroleum Company, if I could be named correctly, I know the Jindian names, I hope I could be named correctly, that the depots are not working. Frankly, I'm wondering what that is supposed to mean. Because depots, if my memory serves me right, we have like 22 depots. We have in Ejipo, we have in Makoti, we have in Mosime, we have them all over the country. But these were depots built to take stock from the refineries and cross-transfer them across the country. But we know that our refineries have not been working, so we have been importing. So which depots are we talking about? The depots by the NNPC, to me, may not be relevant. I stand to be corrected. May not be relevant in this case because we are importing. So it's actually the marketers who have a few storage depots at strategic places, usually close to the ports, you know, where these things are right. So I really, I was at a loss what this gentleman was actually referring to, considering the fact that we are importing. If the Danbote refinery comes on stream, then we may need to be looking at those NNPC refiner depots across the country, whether they actually are integrated, or will be integrated to the Danbote refinery, which will be fantastic because it will reduce the trucks on the highways. But that's a different thing completely. So if we're importing, I don't see how the 22 depots across the country that are supposed to be fed by the four refineries that are not working have a role to play now in us not having fuel. That's one. The question of the gentleman whose account was who was allegedly picked up because he criticized, allegedly criticized the wife of the president. I think that to eradicate confusion as to exactly what happened, what didn't happen, you see the command and control structure of the security forces has to be, has to conform to what is on ground. You know, I'm not just now, I'm not specifically referring to the first because we've seen many instances where security forces are located for the functionaries, you know, and then you begin to wonder exactly as to who gives orders to them and what kind of orders can be given to them. If I am given a police officer as my orderly, this police officer should have functions specific to his or have been my orderly. Okay, I'm not sure that happens here because I've seen orderly scaring handbags, even male orderly scaring handbags to their madams and then taking food from a buffet to go and give to the madams sitting at table. Exactly, exactly. And that's on the lighter side. But you are making a very funny point, you know, it starts getting much more worrisome and embarrassing, you know, and potentially illegal. If now I can ask my orderly to go and pick up somebody who is OEMI money, what I am supposed to do is to go and report to the police station if somebody is OEMI money and not to say because I have an orderly attached to me by the IGP or by the Commissioner of Police and I'll ask that orderly to go and pick up somebody who is OEMI money and go and lock the person up. So and I think if we don't address these kinds, we don't really streamline the commander control and make very clear what the functions of these officers are. Then we are going to be susceptible to these kinds of allegations that have come that is being denied, that is not being confirmed, that we don't know exactly what has happened, you know, as to whether it's actually true. But what is not controversial is that the young man was picked up. Who picked up this young man? Where did they take him to? Under whose orders? Now that is something in the air with all kinds of dimensions committing to that. Yeah, I believe so because even though everybody points fingers at the first lady, maybe she's not the person who sent, but today we still do not know who ordered the shooting for during NSAS. So we may never find out. All we need to know is that, okay, on the one hand it is bad for people who are in authority to use their authority that has been given to them by the people to oppress people. But on the other hand as well, we need to be guarded. It doesn't mean that because we are given freedom of speech, we can say anything and expect to go scot-free because you might enter into the hands of people who may not take it as kindly as some others with you. So let's share the blame. Let the blame go around. We be careful and the other people be humble enough to take criticism sometimes when it comes. Bio, a final word before we just draw the curtain to Nigerians and everybody else. A final word of course would always be that your vote counts. Don't let anyone tell you that your vote doesn't count. And don't let anybody tell you that, you know, your voting will not make a difference. Your voting will make a big difference. This is why you must vote. And make sure you get your PBC, keep it properly and use it on the day of detection. Thank you very much, Bio. Okay, from me to you, know that if you are in Nigerian that is going to vote, know that you should start seeing yourself as an employer of labor. And so whatever you need to demand for whoever is asking for your appointment letter must be done. If it doesn't pass it, he stays. The one who passes it, the exam, I mean, gets to sit where he needs to sit. So you are an employer of labor. And like Bio said, your vote will count. Make sure you feel and behave like the person who is employing somebody else. If you know what I mean, fine. If you don't get it, forget about it, as they say in today's streets. Okay, my name is Nyam Gula Akaji. It's been a pleasure having you with us on the show. Let's do it again tomorrow. Bye for now.