 Today we're talking volume six chapter six. We have the exclusive clip of next week's episode and we are interviewing the voice of Ruby Lindsay Jones And we'll be answering community questions that you have submitted using hashtag Ruby Roo. This is Ruby Rewind Congratulations, you've made it to another week Welcome out to Ruby Rewind if this is your first time watching the show Then have a seat you know get some snacks whatever hang out with us because what we do is every week We recap and talk about the latest episode of Ruby with you guys. Mm-hmm all the drama. Who are you Chad? Oh? I'm Ellie Mayne and I am Jackie E. Zawa Hello again everybody. We'll be answering your community questions. So excited about that, too. Yeah, I just use a hashtag Ruby Rw Ask us your questions comments things like that. We talked about it here on the show So let's get right into it. Wow. This was a very spooky episode a very spooky episode a horror edition of Ruby Yeah, like I had a moment where I screwed it up onto the edge of my seat I was like leaning forward and I was getting into it Jackie jumped Oh my god, yeah, the part where Ruby's deciding whether or not to drop the relic into the well and then yeah, the eyes glow and Covers her face because then she's like I Do so bad with like jump scares and horror movies, and I love it, but oh How we go any further? I do want to really quick say thank you to Express VPN for sponsoring this episode We'll be talking about them just in a little bit and also as always you can go to roosty.com forward slash play And we'll have a megaphone poll that you can participate along with here in just a little bit. Mm-hmm. Yeah I was gonna ask if you got the literary reference of today's episode The literary reference for mm-hmm apathy town for the entire that sort of theme of like of being too apathetic to do anything It comes from a story called Bartleby the Scrivener, which only a few people got on really on Twitter. Yes We're about a guy who ends up will he ends up perishing because he's can't be bothered to eat Is it like but towards the end of it? But it's all about someone who's like so lazy and can't be bothered to do anything and wastes away Wow, that's that inspired miles for this episode. That's cool. I've never heard of that before I was thinking we were doing like a rip van winkle thing. Mm-hmm first But no it was not they took some creative license with making me apathy into an actual evil creature Which yeah, so cool. It was really spooky. Um, I was curious though if it's a creature of like pure apathy It's a good thing because like if that thing had just ran a little bit quicker or cared a little bit more like they Would have won because they're so like oh, whatever. I guess I'll kill this girl We have a great tweet here from Joe Kenman grimental Their real name is the apathy. I'm calling them mentos and there's nothing you can do to stop me And now we will call them that as well Joe. I love Joe. Hi Joe They're like but the effect that they had on the on the girls was amazing like towards the end of the episode when Blake Just goes it's fine. Yeah, I know and it's weird Creeping dangly little fingers going towards her face. So the fingers also so when Mars was writing this he was like, I don't know what happens when like they get you like when you get got by the apathy and Carrie was the one that was decided that like these three long fingers just like scrambling your insights When you because you can't be you can't be bothered to move anymore, and they just they get you gross That's really gross and now we know that That's what they were gonna do. But yeah, apparently just their apathy radiation It was just enough to make everyone not care enough that they just never got out of bed To do anything I have mornings like that One of my favorite shots was when the like apathy signal boosts out And you get to think it's just like a slow-mo, and you see Yang's eyes just go Man there was there was a lot of that and it was creeping me out like the half-lidded Starting like I was like yeah it started like look at the sleepy eyes But then when all three it was Ruby was talking with the other three Yeah, and I was like, okay, don't like it anymore. No very zombie like really wonky So obviously we got to find out what the cool creature wasn't glad they didn't string that out But there's so much that went down this episode when we were talking we were more addressing of croaks alkalism Yeah, like Ruby smash in that bottle And then I thought they're they're gonna have a moment because like she gave him a hug She got nice again. I'm like no have that moment with uncle man. I just still loves him I just like you know you can I love tons of people if I'm like we're gonna We're gonna have this talk right now because you're you're messing up big. I love people, but I will intervene Ruby's just like hey well I mean there's a weird power indifference that to like an older family member like going up to me like hey You just clearly have a problem isn't the most comfortable of things It seems like we're heading there though where and you're trying to save the world You probably have to address a few things along the way. Yeah, and Ruby's getting frustrated She's gonna snap started with like Really soft touch like hey, and then it was like I'm getting pissed But then I but I do love you and like you can talk to me next time. There's gonna be that hard conversation later I'm pretty sure Yeah, definitely heading there. I remember years ago when gray wrote a journal And he said that Ruby's gonna be going into like these more darker themes and a little bit more realistic I think this is like the episode of the turning point. Yeah of that cuz oh so much I feel so bad for her. She has so much burden on her I know she's trying so hard everyone else got to apathy so quickly and she still was like no guys. Come on It's okay. Well, she has that spirit, you know, I like it like towards the end That's like the scariest bit is when like it almost gets Ruby, and she's like I am tired Yeah But the biggest thing the episode took me so it was hard to hold back until now We've got another look at the silver eyes It's becoming clear what they well they do yes, they are the Cyclops of grim They dissolve things. Yeah, which is really cool, but apparently it's all based around Good feelings. Yeah, which is interesting love right in connection to other people. Yeah, cuz I always thought it was like You know it always happened in moments of like extreme trauma and fear, right? So I kind of figured it was coming from that, you know, I never got that You know it was more like a fight or flight. Yeah, kind of like a fighter flight We like reflex, but actually it's like no, I love those person right exactly Yeah, I always thought it was emotion-based like someone that you care about Significantly because with the whole you know if we can talk about it the whole pure thing But I always took it as like she just got to that point of emotional like like an emotional peak And that's what caused the silver eyes to activate Hmm. I never got like trauma from it. So it's really interesting how we like completely took two different That's very nice wasting. It's really interesting how I was right and you were wrong I really hope that Maria does become this like little like Yoda teacher that I want her to be to like teach Ruby How to use those eyes. Oh, yeah, she totally is and I love the the the justification as to why it's because we got to see through You know her vision and everything's got that kind of blue tint So when she's like she's like what color are your eyes? I'm like that's why she didn't even know we were totally right We called it that she had silver eyes But she didn't know that Ruby did until right then and I was like, oh, that's awesome Do you think it's a connection to having the silver eyes and now needing the glasses? I think so do you think so? Yeah, that's so much power Coming out it has to have like some kind of deterioration attached to it Loft says do you think that Maria's glasses became her eyes because her eyes were removed by Salem's followers? Oh, oh That would be gnarly. That would look like some Blade Runner stuff. That's grim Oh, I didn't think about that Well, we'll see what happens. I I'm very curious to find out more and just to hear now that we know But still the one thing I want to throw out there It's she still didn't come across them by happens dance. No, you know what I mean? She was on that train she saw them and she intentionally placed herself on the disconnected car to be with them So even though she might have just discovered she has silver eyes like she knows something about them And she's there for a reason what if like so Look like the girls mission right now is to get the relic to Atlas, right? Yeah What if this lady is just trying to round up people with silver eyes who clearly like some kind of like you've connected in some Way in order to like harness that power to use it Maybe She's trying to get like a tribe's people of silver eyes together. How many people are there? I don't know with because I think it's got to be familial. That's that's my right, you know Descendants of Ozpin and Salem. Oh, yeah, we talked about that a little bit. We'll see But let's see what you guys want to know. We got some questions from the community Jackie want to hit the first one Yes, of course Here we go when Maria said that she had silver eyes You think she went blind from overusing them like Iggy kitten, too. I say yes, just love too many people She loved too hard too fast, or maybe it's like using three times and then you're done And by the way, you're down to two Well when she said did she says did she say I have silver eyes or should I had Silver eyes, you know what? I don't know had she said I had isn't it obvious I had silver eyes So she now I don't know I don't know. Yeah, I don't know if they're gone or they just changed cheese I really hope we get a reveal of just like sockets. Oh That'd be really creepy and her like nice sweet old woman face Expected for her to take off the glasses momentarily and then you got to see like silver eyes like maybe they just you know I know I don't know. I that means they might be holding back It might just be like the eyes are gone. Oh, we'll have to find out Well I hope you guys pulled up that megaphone poll if you didn't you can head to roosterteeth.com forward slash play because we're gonna ask you a Question right now that you can participate with so we want to know what do you think? Using the silver eyes causes blindness. So again head to roosterteeth.com slash play and we'll check back in on that here in a second All right while you're doing that. Let's see the next question and it comes from Oh, no Next question comes from Red anemones as of now we've seen humanoid grim and cinders grafted grim arm Do you think certain grim were once humans that Salem bathed in the grim pool? That's Cyberman deal like an upgrade for like an evil upgrade. Yeah, just dunk you in the pool Now you're a gross monster like have an accolese moment where you kind of like We learned from the journals that these apathy guys were just like hiding out in the woods And he went like and the farmer went and got to and hit them in the cellar And then they like then the rest came to find them. What are they doing? Just chillin in the woods Maybe They were a whole group of people and how do they reproduce? Perhaps she bathed them all. That's another question Yeah, they reproduced especially the apathy monsters because you think they'd be like Gotta put a lot of effort into dating and you think they just be like Just like Do you think we'll have a mental breakdown and finally tell the truth about so much a ruby 96 I Don't know if I'm a mental breakdown, but he might get real drunk I have so much resentment for crow right now. Jackie's mad at crow. I they're in a fight Part of it. Yeah, part of it was the apathy grim But another part like all the apathy grim did was like bring out like your worst Feelings like they have deep like whatever, you know, even though the girls said what they said that was deep within their minds And I'm like crow come on man. You gotta step up a little bit more It's gotta be rough when your sevens is bad luck. Yes, I will give him that you know like yeah, that is just like life is against you Every day like and you go that bird thing going for you. That's true And you gotta be scared like what happens you turn into a bird and then you get like attacked by a hawk right away Yeah, he's got that bad luck. We saw it which we don't see it a lot, right, you know It comes up into play, you know Sometimes during his fights which is why it works out for him because the other people get bad luck because they're around him But like, you know, I thought it was a great callback when he's already just like I'm tired And then he just goes in the second he touches the trailer the tire just pops and I'm like, oh, yeah And that really made me like man, that must suck like just everything all the time Yeah, you got that'll that'll wear anybody down Jackie throws this last question. All right. Oh, oh, you please represent How do you think John or in red would have dealt in this episode situation? Kinsey official. I think Nora would have really stood out here. Yeah, as like like the strongest against the app I think yes, like what happened? What about John? No, it's like such a positive little bean. That's true But he gets really sad about certain things That's true I feel like he would have like the episode would have turned faster because everyone would have been like, okay What's going on with John? He's just in a corner Yeah, and yeah, I think it would take like cuz you see like Ruby has a lot of I think it would take a while for them to wear it down I think like nor yeah rent I feel would go there right real quick But like nor I feel would have been to stand out there and just smack some stuff with her hammer That's all you really need Or we get to see like a super sad side of her which we've never seen before That would be like that would make that would break my heart Yeah, me too John could have boosted everyone's like semblance and stuff So then maybe they would have been stronger against the apathy off of his semblance because you know he boosts right doesn't heal He boosts everyone to have extra bonus content now He was boosting Ren would that hide them from all of them and would it negate the effects? Whoa? That would have been cool too, but then they would have just been like hiding in there amongst them like saddits Like and then like how they like to sleep apparently is like this, right? And then you'll wake up like Make you guys sleepy That doesn't seem like a very apathetic pose, you know look my jaw at a nap real quick So creepy well done. Yeah team like this super good job on that one. Oh, yeah, really as soon as we all saw them We were like no No, thank you To someone one of you yelled run like out of there Jackie. I think it was you I I don't know what I said It was a very genuine reaction if I was you know when she discovers them you see her eyes go wide I've just been like run like nope. They'll turn it get out. Yeah, we're running away from this immediately Yeah, all right Well, let's check it on the megaphone pole and see what you guys thought Oh, this is the silver eyes cause blindness. I think so either. No, I think there's some been some other Tom foolery behind the scenes That made this lady go blind. Yeah Yeah, I can see that. I I really like that theory about Salem's henchmen like Popping out her eyes as I seem like a Tyrion move. It does. Yeah He probably would do it. She's I didn't make the character that just seems very Grim I'm just saying Hey, speaking of saying things this episode of rewind is brought to you by Express VPN VPN is super important to have without one your internet browsing data can be tracked by your ISP cellular provider add companies and hackers When you use a VPN your public access IP is masked So even the websites you visit won't be able to identify you express VPN has the fastest speeds It's consistently faster than other VPN providers has server locations in 94 countries giving you plenty of options to choose from They have 24 7 customer 24 7 customer support So you can get help whenever you need it apps for every device Windows iOS Android Mac Linux router and more It's super easy to use you can connect with just one click I use Express VPN to keep my data safe and because it's so fast and reliable You can get Express VPN for less than $7 a month with a 30-day money-back guarantee Take back your internet privacy today find out how you can get three months free by going to express VPN comm slash rewind That's EXP our ESS VPN comm slash rewind for three months free with a one-year package Visit Express VPN comm slash rewind to learn more take back your internet privacy today And thank you Lindsey Jones Of course, I love coming on here. Yeah, you were the very first one we ever had on this show. Really, that's awesome episode one of I will say I brought on my sweet little ruby hoodie because I want to watch you But now I just kind of turned into a grandma. I was like, I'm gonna put this on my legs Oh How did you enjoy this like slightly more horror themed like I dug it and I was listening to you guys talk about some of the fan theories and just like your theories in general About what these grim are all about or like how they got started I love the idea of like Salem turning people into grim by throwing them into the pools Or if they did it willingly, that's even creepier. Okay. I want to join your evil grim undead army Salem I feel like Tyrion would have been like the first one in though. Oh, absolutely You know, you know, so this is the boost of my pool that turns people into grip and you look and he's like already in mid cannonball You know, just right into it Like he wanted he would want to grim scorpion tail Oh, right. Maybe he's just dips his little bun. Yeah Just a bit just a dip like a little toe. Yeah, and he's like, oh, this is cool I did like the fan theory also. I mean like so far. We haven't seen it's true But maybe it'll come up in the future of like, okay So Salem is technically Part grim at least because she waited in the pool and jumped in herself But she gave birth to children who were human Right. Well, they had magic powers, but they were human for the most part. What does she gave birth to more grim? And because she hadn't told she hadn't told him anything so just like Consider That's a need you want to talk about the worst who's the father moment? You know, I was like, whoa, what have you been doing standing there like My bad eyes, sorry Well, I feel like she's had a long time like experiment In her evilness. So maybe she's just been like dipping a few people here She's got a lot of projects a lot of potatoes in the oven. Yeah, you think and sometimes creepy grim potatoes in the oven But those grim specifically were awesome And I completely agree like the whole concept of not just a grim attacking like those are creepy Also, you know, you get the bale wolves or an evermore. You're like, ah, I gotta defend myself But like the fact that it makes you not care that you're dying is the creepiest thing in the world It removes your sense of well, yeah, all your well power is gone I love that Bartleby the Scribner is a part of the reference to you And that's so cool because it's called like Bartleby Farms Yeah, yeah, and the guy's name was that. Um, so by the way, we really need to get you into the mocap studio So that you can mocap in the room I actually, uh, did all the apathy It was really nice I saw that I was like, is this Ellie's work? It looks like Ellie's work Yes, definitely. Um, all right. Well, Lindsay, we've got some questions from the community for you Yeah, uh, so Jackie, you want to fire off the first one here? Yep. Yep How does it feel to express much darker emotions in this volume like clungus fungus clungus Forget his question. Let's just talk about that. I'm all about it. Um, I mean, I won't swear because it's this is a ruby show But um, we talk about it like the no, uh, no sh it ruby like we're done Dumb with this crap and a lot of fans have said like, okay I really like that ruby's gone into this emotional depth that wasn't there in volumes four and five She's kind of taking uh, taking control of leadership again and moving forward with everybody else But I as an actor interpreting the scripts. I understood the journey that she went on so volume three Clearly she witnessed some stuff that was not too awesome like the deaths of her friends, etc So volumes four and five. I felt like she was kind of Looking for someone to tell her what to do or like I need guidance. Where can I go? And she had ospin and crow to look after like, okay, I'll follow your lead. Well, now she can't trust either of them So here we are. She's got to step up. Exactly What was it fun getting to do the more? Yeah, absolutely. It was really really cool. Great Uh, next question comes from Yeah Lindsay, uh, have you ever modified parts of ruby's character? Such that it changed what was originally planned for a certain scene or even just in general I get the chance to like tweak dialogue a little bit Which is nice and we were talking about that before we came on the show Like if I feel like a line's kind of been repeated or maybe there's a cooler way to say it or a more ruby way to say something Then yeah, uh, as far as plot goes I mean we've been talking about things like the new grim since volume one So I feel like we got a lot of input in that sense of like, oh, it'd be really cool If we did this or like what if this character went here? What did this grim existed? So yes and no, I feel like again, it's more dialogue tweaks for my part Cool. That's very cool. Ellie, you want to get the next one? Yeah, how do you think ruby will handle having to mature so quickly over the course of volume six? I am excited for it, especially addressing cross alcoholism. She guys talked about I So far there hasn't been a moment like that that I can think of but I'm excited for the like Really deep intervention chat like hey, okay. Everything I'm dealing with here Like I'm literally trying to save the world here and you're making this a big problem with your drinking So let's let's sit down and chat about this for a little bit I'm excited for that to kind of remand some of the friendships that she has too I feel like there's still like a little bit of a rift between her and yang and everybody else because of everything They've gone through so yeah, I mean She's got a lot ahead of her for sure It's interesting because from the very beginning of the show She's been continually told that like she's a leader and she's special and like, you know She was obviously the leader of team ruby and so now it's like she has no choice But to like take that off has to yeah Before she could like kind of sit back and learn how to do it and now it's like, oh, no No, you lead like you have to lead now. Yeah, and actually there's kind of one moment that like I thought played really well and hinted at that too. It's when Um oscar is saying well ospin through oscar is saying like don't talk to jinn You don't want to know what's going to happen, but I'm hiding secrets Yeah, and crow goes, you know, do what you think is right kiddo and I'm like that's awesome Yeah, like he's encouraging her to take the lead. He also had a sword pointed right at She's really against crow right now Oh It just okay. All right on a positive for protecting her. They were like no uncle crow. You stay back there ruby. What you can do? Yeah, uh, well uniform galaxy 37 wants to uh, what's been your favorite part of working on ruby since the show began So, you know very easy to answer question not broad at all one month Um, I just love seeing where it's come I mean we were just at a convention this weekend me and the other ruby girls and vick as well as place crow And just the animation quality is incredible and the plot devices that are being implemented now And I mean not to tutor on horns, but like voice acting as well This has been a huge journey for us too. We weren't voice actors before we started this And now we watched this most recent episode and we're all like great job everybody Like we really expressed the emotions that we needed to a lot of complex emotions, too But we thought we nailed it. Yeah. Yeah And a lot of you are getting other opportunities to do more voice acting and things Yes, I think we've said it before like a really cool part of this show is watching a studio get better at what it's doing Like like every every season has got something new and something really exciting to it like because I to do this I started what from the beginning again and watched all the way through and I'm like, whoa That's a crazy amount of growth in the show. Oh, it's wild. Yeah, we're the first people who are like, hey, can we record volume one? Oh, I know that feeling well when you've been voicing a character for a very long time And you really get better and hit your stride and find out what the character sounds like and what the delivery is And then you look back on those early things that are there forever and you're just like Only I could change great did say it best. He's like, okay We wouldn't be here if it wasn't for those beginnings So even though you might look back and go like I'm not a fan or like you cringe a little bit It's like that's that's the whole journey. That's where we started So it's it's got a special place in our hearts for sure. It's like seeing your high school yearbook. Exactly I wish I knew how to do wings back then Jackie, do you want to grab this last question? Yeah How did you react when you first were told that ruby would learn more about her silver eyes in this season? It's very exciting because uh the character maria was introduced And I didn't know anything about her or her backstory and then miles filled me in a little bit I was like, oh sweet. Like she is her Toyota, which is fantastic I'm so excited for this like and like it's a it's a trope But it's going to be used well Is this aged character who comes in with a lot of knowledge and wisdom that the main character hasn't had before in this experience What i'm interested in seeing is like what her relationship is going to be like with maria Like is she going to get closer to her than she is with crow like maybe crow We'll have some jealousy issues and be like, yo, I trained ruby. What the hell? Uncle is my thing or like she's about to drop a bunch of really important knowledge and then she just dies. Yeah. Oh my god Dude, I can see him doing it. I'm just Ruby's just shaking her like no finish the sentence Yeah, exactly I'm just saying I'm not putting anything faster. We'll see now with her eye theory too I heard your guys's theory about like what happened with her eyes and her blindness There's been some interesting fan theories too The one that I like the most is that not that she went blind fighting Or someone stole her eyes or that the overuse of her eyes made her have blindness Is that maybe she gave up her eyes at some point like to save someone she loved or something else Or to save the world She's like I got to give up this power and we've seen that you can transfer power like the maidens So why couldn't you do with silver eyes? Yeah, I don't know. We don't know what happens when they die and if they're thinking of somebody Do they suddenly get silver eyes, right? Or I guess it would just choose like a random baby Just a random baby I don't know Interesting babies are like all love at that point to be like constantly All right. Well, Lindsay, uh, we like to have some fun with our guests on the show And sometimes we make them go through a series of quick rapid-fire questions. That's good that we call the lightning round All right, Lindsay, you've got 60 seconds to answer all of our questions As best you can we'll let you know if you won or if you fail. Sounds good. All right. Let's bring up the first one and it comes from Somebody, uh, what would rubies a favorite video game be smash brothers All right Recently during achievement, honey, you said ruby was 17. Well, how about they between volumes 5 and 6 her volume Or her birthdays are halloween. So I mean technically was in the middle of it. Yeah, right. Yeah. Yes All right, uh, if all the characters you've voiced we're in a death battle who would win Oh God Would miraculously win somehow If I was good grating the whole team the ability to turn into animals. What do you think each member would become? Oh, that's a rubies very doglike obviously Blake is a cat yang tiny dragon. Uh, why is ferret white ferret nice It's summer rose the summer maiden Uh, I don't know That's a good question. What are we gonna get a t-rex grab soon? I hope As soon as I write it, you're Lindsay on a scale of zero to ten. How much were you afraid during this chapter 20? We were in a fight ruby or metal sonic. Oh ruby, of course. Get out of your sonic Can you give us a quick angry edward l rick s grant on rubies in rubies voice? I'm not short Yes, perfect. All right, uh, let's go to the judges and see if you passed or failed You're hard to please. I thought you did a good job. They don't want the t-rex grim. It's not too much The world's not ready. I'm sorry. I'm just getting did I hear there were 50 questions? What? Oh damn 50 questions for you. I'm not that bad. No hope I'm not like it's perfect again with the mo cap ellie. We're really under like utilizing you here personally embraced ruby semblance I don't have that speed. I'm sorry Well, they definitely set you up to fail there So I gotta come back. I'll finish it next time. Sounds good. All right. Well, that was the ruby rewind lightning round I just really like making that asset play. I know I know you do Cool. Uh, well, thank you guys, uh, so much uh for coming out and watching the show and thank you for being on it Lindsay, appreciate it. Um, whoa chat. That is a really cool hoodie. Oh, is it? Yeah If only you could get your own at the store dot rooster cheetah You could also get some of these really cool things that we're wearing too and this the ruby hoodie Which is my poissonal favorite. Yeah, I saw a lot of questions about these cosplay hoodies. They are available now So you guys can go pick those up. Um Yeah, it is time Let's take a look at next week's episode roll it Now you understand I've got to get the relic before it can be secured in atlas It's the only way that salem It's the only way we can accomplish our goal You're not the only one who wants ruby dead But unfortunately, salem does not feel the same way That was a lot of info. It was and we got to reuse that really cool set Oh, yeah, no kidding. It's beautiful in there. I love it. I love all the falling I don't know what you would call it leaves. I guess it let leaves that look like fireflies. Very cool. Oh, man Well, now I've got many questions for next week. Uh, if you guys have questions for next week You use that hashtag ruby rw You can send us questions comments or even fan art last week. We called out for the knuckle evie pokemon crossover We got some suggestions That's my new favorite ebillution Yeah, it is amazing and it's like look we got this cool like a chugram Stop making grim cute. I got to fight them Guys leave a comment below with all of your reactions theories and questions about the next episode And send us cute stuff like that too. We love that. Yeah, definitely. And uh, then we'll see you next week Hey everyone, thanks for tuning into that behind the scenes look at ruby don't forget volume seven is over on the website And on the website 20% off anything and free shipping on all orders over 75 dollars Did you know green monday was a thing? Uh, I did not but I will google it from the cover of my home while I'm purchasing all this nice merch