 My name is Rongo Ariel, I am a partner in Studio Royal San Fratello. We are the designers of the Teter Totter wall project that we installed on the West Mexico border near El Paso in Juarez. We saw several sites where there were communities along the wall. We looked for places where we could insert a Teter Totter into the wall. We also tried to do this asking permission by Homeland Security and Border Patrol agents working with arts organizations and none of it really came to fruition and then in the summer of 2019 we had the Teter Totters constructed in Juarez. We invited friends on the US side, there was a village and community that we were very familiar with on the Mexican side and this is how the event happened that day. Immediately I don't think there was one second that passed and then just all the kids jumped on these Teter Totters. You know when you think about a Teter Totter in a park, it can be an animal, you could be riding a tiger or a caterpillar or something, but they also vibrant colors. They're meant to be like you're imagining yourself riding on something and so we're imagining what that would be but we've also talked about the this wall being simultaneously a space of joy and a space of horror. Moms and kids playing created a different kind of space right once we were in a space of violence and then we were in a sanctuary and so the play just continued. What does it mean to walk into the spaces of violence and to understand that within those spaces of violence life must continue and within and what is life without joy?