 What they gonna do with me now? I'm still a talk of the town Got me the sisters, I'm hooking them down I'm still a talk of the town Today we have a special guest Not an artist, but No, you are I'm bugging, I'm bugging Cause you do both now That's cool That's cool I like that whole mess up I like the whole mess up I like it Yeah, you're that Yeah, yeah I'm known as JL Shot that More, you know JL Official JL Official JL Official JL So is it an alter ego Or do you feel like There's just a breakdown? I guess it is an alter ego, yeah Okay Yeah Alright, so I'm asking some questions To say the first thing that comes to mind These are not crazy questions But they're questions Okay Okay Shands on an abandoned island Three things you need Food Three things you need Not like to survive Oh, three things I need I need music I need like a music period I need I really only need Oh, I need a studio I need a studio Studio and music Yeah Well, a studio period So the studio could cover the music So I need a studio to release I don't even know what else I need That's all I need All I need is music Music is my life That's it That's I need weed and liquor Oh, I need weed You're right I do need weed I need weed Hooker or some aggressive hooker And I need some Some nice woman Okay, bitches No, no, no, no, bitches I need some nice women Females We need a studio Sounds like a party Yeah All right What's your favorite song right now? I could be one of yours Favorite song? Yeah, tell me what you want About me Yeah, but official Yeah, for sure Okay Favorite album Of all time? Yeah Or right now Currently Currently, I say currently Favorite Let me look at my iTunes Yeah, what's the project you're both in? See, I'll be everywhere Yeah Is it an album? Yeah Some Walker? Brand Fias? No None of those I'm into those I'm definitely into them But favorite album right now Is what? I don't even know I'll probably say Dante Halper Okay That's a good one That's a good one All right What's one artist you want to work with that you haven't yet? Drake See how fast that was? Bye, Lily What show are you watching currently? I don't really watch shows You don't watch TV? No You watch YouTube? I watch YouTube here and there No, I'm not a YouTube guy I'm just like a documentary guy Do you watch documentaries? Yeah, documentaries, stand-ups Last documentary you watched? Oh, um The untold stories They had a new one called Money, Something I Forgot But untold, untold Okay, okay The new episode Most used emoji? That I used? I don't know It's probably like the heart Red one? I love you, no Oh, just a hand heart? Two hands Okay At what age do you want to retire? Never A conspiracy theory you think is real? UFOs UFOs? Yeah Okay, last thing you spent money on? Food But I'm at a game show I got to answer fast What's your biggest flex? Being able to be multifaceted Yeah, that is a flex People don't be thinking that What's your favorite app on your phone? My favorite app? Instagram Instagram? Yeah, you see how bad I said it so It sounds so sad What's a trend that you wish didn't exist? A trend That you wish didn't exist Cloud chasing? That's fair And what songs do you listen to for motivation? That's right It depends on how I'm feeling You know what I mean? Really? No, not one specific song What type of motivation? Like motivation to exercise Motivation to get work done To get work done? That's rough It doesn't depend on what kind of work It will kind of work how I'm feeling You know what I mean? I used to, I didn't go in front of my go-to song To just make me feel a way to want to do anything Is a Ginea Co What's that? 444? Oh Is it 444? Ways Ways? Yeah, Ways W.A.Y.S Just because, I don't know That song just stuck with me after this girl played it for me After a video shoot When I first started She knew I did music as well So I was kind of just opening up Telling her how I felt about You know, not being able to really do it Because I'm chasing another dream And she just played that song for me And hit home So from the gate, you've been wanting to do music? I've been doing music way before this. What is? So like, when did you start doing music? I started doing music when I was a fucking, probably like 11. OK. I was an audio engineer for most of my life. That's why I know so many artists. That makes sense, that makes sense. So like, when was you trying to take it serious? Music? Or was it always serious? It's always serious. Yeah, I mean, I put out my first. OK, so when did you focus on it, I want to say? I focused up in 2008. I dropped my first project in 2008. That was already one. It was a mixtape. And it was, it was, it did, it did, it did, it did. So you did the whole thing, like the engineering and everything? Yeah. You do everything yourself? Yeah. Oh, shit. OK, that's cool. So like, so you went to school, college? No. No, you learned on YouTube? No, I learned just to keep doing it. You're trying to? Well, I was there. I mean, like I said, I started at 11. So I was always in studios. Like my uncle used to have me in the studio. So I always just sit by the engineer and just ask questions. OK. So when did you start? Like, people say you know you're serious about something when you start investing in it. Correct. When did you start buying pro tools and all that? Correct, correct. So when did that happen? That happened around 2008. My boy, Rest in Peace, King Face, me and him went like, I put a little money in for a studio that we started up ourselves and put in his basement. So that was probably my first investment, because I knew I wanted to do it, you know what I mean? But that was my first little investment. But when I dropped my mix tape, I invested all my money into just my money. Like I had the release party. I printed the CDs. This is when we had CDs. I did the covers, did the print. I did everything myself. But all this was all your own you didn't learn this from nowhere? No. This was me. Yeah, just being who I am, honestly. Just going after what I want. Wow. So like me, I learned a lot of like other than shit from like YouTube and shit like that. Back then it wasn't like that. It wasn't used to wear. Yeah, it wasn't really like that. It was more so wear to my friendship. All right, so learn everything through trial and error. Yeah. OK. How did you, I guess, technology always changes? Yeah. So was you growing with it, or you had to take time to get to learn it? Or like, what are you thinking of? I was growing with it heavily. I was always into electronics. Because you use it on an everyday type shit. Well, I was a little fucking skim naked back in the day. I used to do burnout phones and shit. So I was always into electronics. You remember Sheik, right? I used to have the whole hood with burnouts. Everybody had burnouts. He used to cut up my crib, open my drawer. I got mad phones in it. I used to buy refurbished phones from Dad and shit. And fix them and stuff. OK, so music, 2008 project. Walk us through what happened next. Did you pick up a camera next? No, what happened was I didn't plan. I planned up to my release party. And then I'm thinking, I'm just going to get signed. And that's it, you know what I mean? And literally, that didn't happen. And I kind of was just defeated, you know what I mean? And I started doing everything by itself. When you spend all that time on some shit, and it don't hit the way it's supposed to hit. Yeah, that shit definitely probably was born. But the crazy thing, it did hit. That should hit. But it just didn't hit you. That shit was hitting. It just didn't do what I thought. But it was me, though. Me looking in hindsight. I know so. It was me. It was my arrogance. It was who I was. I was an asshole back in the days. I just recently changed, you know what I mean? Within the past two years. OK, I've told you what since, like on some, like, you think you know everything? Or I've told you that you ain't gonna. Yeah, yeah. I thought I knew everything, and what was the next one you was about to say? Because I'm sure it was. I was going to say, oh, you ain't want to, like, politic when it gets. Both. Oh, wow. OK. That's who I was. Yeah, music industry is 90% relationship. Yeah, I didn't know that. You know what politic when it gets. I didn't know that. I didn't know that. Because I did everything by myself anyway. I was alone, you know what I mean? So it's like, I'm kind of used to being by myself, and I don't mind being by myself in a sense, you know what I mean? So it wasn't an urge to be around the mix, you know what I mean? It's just like, I'm going to get my shit done and do what I want to do. I'm not really into all of that in a sense, you know? So after the project is out, you'll get into, I guess, was it a depression, do you feel like? Or do you feel like it's more so a reevaluate in your future? What do you think? I mean, depression definitely came in. Definitely came in. But it was, yeah, I was reevaluating. I went back to what I knew, what it was engineering. And I was heavy into poker, underground poker. I used to run my own games. I used to deal, make a lot of money doing it, like a lot of money. I heard card games and stuff like that is lit in the city. Yeah, I used to do that shit for most of my life. So you're back to engineering now? Are you working on a new project? Or you like to know artists? No, I was. I was working on, I actually came, I recorded a whole new project already too and I never dropped it. So you just was recording and then sitting with it? Oh, I have over 500 records. Yeah, I'm just trying to get through your timeline. So 2008, you project, you back to engineering, poking, making some money. Now you're working on what? Working with other artists. You saved it in another project. You didn't release that one though. No, I never dropped that. So why though? Because you wanted to focus on something else? It was just the way my life was going at that time. OK, personal stuff? Personal stuff. I was living in a squad of crib. The music was OK. It was good. But what I do, I test my music out. I usually go to a certain amount of people, like a good 10 people, say, for instance. People I really trusted judgment and just believed that they know what's best for me. And I played it for them and I didn't get the response I wanted. So I was just. So you went to work on more music or what did you do? At that point in time, I think I was a little over it. I was a little over it. So that's when I turned to the camera. OK, OK, OK. OK, so picking up to your first camera was a what? Do you remember? A T3I. T3I? Yeah. OK. I figured out everybody's first camera. All right, so did you already know cameras at this time, though? No. I can't say that I did. So you was learning again? Yeah, yeah. Oh, you really know some trial and error type shit, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I learned that just taking that first step, that's the only way you're going to ever figure out anything. Of course, of course, of course. So was you asking for insight? Was anybody helping you? Or you really just started to figure it out? This time I was just, yeah, I literally just went out and started shooting and started shooting and just seeing what was happening. In hindsight, once again, I remember always seeing my mother back in the days just with a camera, always just snapping photos. She used to have shoeboxes of photos and shit, you know what I mean? So I think that's where that whole thing came from. Word. OK, so was it pictures first and then music videos and stuff? Yeah, pictures first. Oh, pictures first? Yeah. OK, so but no classes, just trial and error. Just trial and error. OK, so doing pictures first, changing to videos now. Yeah. So you learned how to edit on your own too? Yeah. YouTube University is out at this time. Like, what's up? Was you on YouTube, man? No, I didn't know. No. Because it was probably like ringtone time. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Videos, I didn't start till 2016, 2017. Oh, yeah, so YouTube is all the way out. Yeah. But I just didn't, I'm more of a hands-on type of guy. Hands-on type of guy? Yeah, OK, OK, OK. I mean, but like you said, trial and error, like, literally. Yeah, so as you picked up the camera in 2016, 2017, that means drill artists just kind of out. No, that's when I started doing videos, yeah. Started doing videos, yeah. OK, so Brooklyn Drills kind of like doing, I think the top ones at that time was what, flotastic and shit? The videographers? Yeah. Yeah, flotastic. Stack, peso, I mean, is that peso? Yeah, meet, connect, all of them, yeah, yeah, yeah. So was you wanting to shoot music videos, or did you want to direct, or like? Funny thing is I never wanted to shoot the videos that I shoot, that I shoot, you know what I mean? Like, and that was my thing. I didn't want to shoot. I was in, at first I was shooting fashion, like fashion videos, because a lot of my friends are like clothing designers, one of them think about it, you know what I mean, one about my boy, One Lace. So I was shooting a lot of air shit. And then, you know, of course, all of, I thought, the reason why I even transitioned in the video was because I'm an engineer and I'm like, bro, I can make money doing this shit. Yeah, all at once. Everybody's here. Why not? Just, yo, I can shoot a video for you. And I attempted that with my boy, Skull, and I'm going to tell the story. I told the story like once, but Skull, my boy, Skull, y'all might know him if you're from Queens, but I asked him to shoot a video that he had with, he had. It was just fire, and he turned me down. And he told me, he said, at that point, right there, he said, yo, don't be one of them niggas that get nice and just like, you know, say, fuck you later on. You know what I mean? But I wouldn't say fuck you, but I did get nice. So shout out to you, Skull. All right, so who was the first music video you shot for it, though? I always get this wrong. But I think, no, I do. But it's either it's one or the two, you know what I mean? So I think it was for my boy, Easy. My boy, Easy, it was Easy, Russ and Pease, and Afgan Togh, and my boy, Arson. And it was another guy on it, Scar. I think it was them, or Drutebino, one or the other. OK, so Queens artists. Queens. OK, so Queens, you start shooting your videos now. What was the first video that popped up for you? You feel like? Welcome to the party remix. Welcome to the party remix. Right, that's Brooklyn, though. So when did, so like, did you already know about pop? Or like, what happened? No, this was the remix. This was Fabi. So now, I didn't know about none of them at all. So somebody called you in? It was like, you know? My right hand at the time, Jerry. Jerry is Fabi's manager. We grew up together, childhood friends. Sorry, I can't. Fabi got a lot of people on his team. I don't know. Yeah, well, I mean, his two main managers is Bless and Jerry, you know what I mean? Yeah. So shot that for Fabio. Yeah, Jerry. And that goes viral. That goes viral. Viral everywhere. So now, you're getting booked now? No, I'm still, I'm a loyal dude. So I wasn't even thinking about all that at that point in time. So I was just sticking with Fabi like, what you want to do next? So we did jump in. Didn't have to jump in, we did big drip. But as we shooting big drip, I mean, pop at the studio session with Fabi, you know what I mean? And he asked me to shoot Dior. So I shot Dior and Big Drip at the same time. Had to edit them at the same time. I was fucking getting barked on about both sides. Both sides. Hurry up, hurry up, hurry up. They thought I was going against them. Both of them thought I was going against them. They're like, yo, bro, you putting them in front of me. And I'm like, yo, I'm not. Yo, bro, you putting them in front of me. I'm like, bro, I'm just one man, bro. And it's time I'm not even that nice, you know what I mean? I'm going hard just to try to figure everything out at this time, you know what I mean? Because this is all happening so fast. What? So fast, like a fucking bullet. So from the time you picked up the camera to the time you shot the first Fabio one, how long was that, a couple of months? No. About a year? Yeah, like a year. Oh, so you've been practicing for like, oh, not. Yeah, I wasn't. I wasn't. Not for the demand that they wanted, but she was getting together. Yeah, yeah, I was getting together. Really with the editing, because I didn't edit my first couple of videos. My boy, Arson, was edited into my videos, shots to Arson. But it was honestly my turning point, and I never said this, but my turning point was with Tina Bugatti. She's an artist from Brooklyn. I used to work with her a lot. She's a writer too. But I had to edit her video. I took a whole year to edit her video, video called Lonely. But I couldn't edit it. I just didn't know what to do. I didn't think the footage was good enough or whatever. So she sat down with me. She was like, yo, let's just edit it together. I'm like, all right, bet. And the way she kind of explained what she wanted kind of gave me a whole formula. You know what I mean? And I'm going to give that to you, Tina. Shout out to her. I'm going to give that to you, Tina. I never gave this to her. It's always a female in the mix, y'all. Just know that. I'm going to give that to her. It kind of definitely laid out the formula for the way I edit. All right, cool. But I'm sure you're going to book now. So when was it time to get an editor? And you was like, damn, I'm really busy for this. Oh, this is just recent. Oh, you just got an editor recently? Just recently. But you was very handsome and everything. Everything. I think my last three videos I had editors for. So are you, because at this time, I'm sure it's pressured because Big Drip was going up, Pop Smoke's going up. Was it the pressure of making this a great video? Or was it just the time? That was my, or both. The time was the killer, though. That was the stress. The making it great was just I needed time, you know what I mean? So it was just counterproductive in a sense. But are you satisfied with the turnout? Fuck yeah. OK, I'm going to say, after all that. Big Drip, yeah, I would have done less, a little less with the effects, you know what I mean? But Dior, I loved it because it was cinematic. It's what I like to shoot, you know what I mean? Yeah. So in this time, you're shooting videos. Are you having time to make music still? Or are you so busy with videos? I'm doing both. You don't see me out here? No, I'm seeing. Now, I've been at that time. Oh, at that time, I wasn't even thinking about music. I put his music totally on the backboard. That's what I'm saying. So you took a break from that. Yeah, I cut it totally out of my life. OK, so when did you start adding it back? Is what I'm asking? Because remember, you still got the project that's done, but the music video thing was shooting up right now. When did you know? Like, OK, I can manage both. When I started having free time, honestly, is when just my videos started slowing up. OK. When I stopped getting hit up by 5, you know what I mean? I stopped getting hit up by TJ and shit. So I'm just like, you know what? I'm going to do something I love now. I'm going to just, you know what I mean? And I just started just recording. My boy AJ over here, he heard a song I did, like half of a song I did. And it was shit going on. And he was like, yo, bro, you have to finish this record. Like, you just have to finish it. And I wasn't listening to him until like two weeks or a week for him to really just tell me every day, like, yo, bro, you have to finish this song. And I just finished it one day. And then from that, it gave me the motivation to just keep going. Well, actually, I met some producers from the UK. And that's what really, really sparked it. Once they sent me this pack. And it was just magic from there. It was just like, whoa. Okay. So you linked with some UK producers? I didn't look for them. They sent you packs? Nah, it happened on Call of Duty. What? Yo, I hear that a lot though. Call of Duty. The video game, I'll be connecting. Bruh, man, that shit is worldwide, it's global, you know what I mean? Yeah, I heard that. Yeah, Call of Duty, my boy introduced me to his boy and he hit me up saying he wanted to send beats to Fabi. I'm like, I bet, whatever. You know, I get that all day, you know what I mean? I don't never check it. Is that annoying? Oh, super annoying. So, so, so annoying. But you and Fabi are good though, right? Yeah, cool. Yeah, I'm about to go check them out after this. Oh yeah, I'm checking. But like, yeah, so you got all these inquiries now for Fabio, but you're also meeting people that could possibly help with your music too, right? What do you mean? Yeah, of course, I'm not working heavy. Yeah, not working, really, yeah. So like, so are you also like pitching yourself as well? Never. Like, yo, I'm working on this. Never, never did that once. That's cool, that's really, that's respected. Yeah. Now, music, you have time for both connecting with people. You still have a network of all the people that you've met. Correct. You know what I'm saying? So how are you flipping that to make it work in your benefit right now? Um, I mean, honestly, I don't, I don't know. I don't know. You're figuring it out still. I'm figuring it out. He's hands on with everything, y'all. I'm figuring, it's rough. That's like, you know, people, everybody needs help. I can't do everything myself, you know what I mean? Like, I do as much as I can. And, you know, I give you a product. And, you know, I might need people to help me sell that product, you know what I mean? Of course, yeah. And that's what, you know, that's all it is, really. Do you have like a team of people helping you? Of course you should. You got an editor now, but on the music tip, like, do you have a team of people helping you? Yeah, I have a small team right now. Yeah. I have a couple of managers, yeah. Shout out to AJ, my boy from, you know, Blazin' Bars. I got my boy Clash over here. Management, that's management. Yeah, and he was all media training him, y'all. I got burnt it down. So, like, when did you confirm, like, yeah, I want you a part of my team, I want you a part of my team? Like, how did you, how did you know? Well, AJ, I told you, he was fucking, he's the one who pretty much forced me to... Drop that song. Yeah, you know what I mean? So, I initially was like, yo, and I just, I know him, I've been around him for a few years, and I've seen his air for music, and I've seen his taste for music, and I just knew he has that air. And he has Connects as well. He has his own podcast and shit, so. Okay. Yeah, I was like, yo, bro, just be my manager. My day-to-day and shit. Okay. Take shit. And then Clash, I've always worked with Clash for Visionary Vision from the production side. Okay. He ran that company, pretty much, yeah. All right, so being that you, you know how to engineer, you know how to shoot. Do you know how to make beats too? Yeah. That is like, everything. So, like, knowing, now learning the game and seeing that, you know, relationships and things matter, how is it now trying to delegate people to help you with your craft, and it's not all you now? I've been over that from the production. Okay. The production helped me over that, and that's why I feel like it was God's end. Everything, the whole video thing was God's end. The whole everything was God's end. And I knew, I know in my heart that that was to bridge me to this. I know for sure, like, you know what I mean? And I have no doubt. Because everything you just said, you know what I mean? Everything you just said, literally. I watched the formula. Like, I watched it. I was there the whole way, you know what I mean? And I, you know, I networked throughout the whole time, you know what I mean? I did what I was supposed to do, you know what I mean? But the production, like I said, that's what really broke me out of that whole thing because I had to learn to work with a team. I had to. Because I was so used to being a videographer, you know what I mean? What was the hardest thing, I guess, to let go? Was the hardest thing to let people engineer your shit? Edit. Edit? That was the hardest thing for me to ever let go. But once I ain't going for it, I think George, yeah, George Buford, once I saw his work, I was like, all right, I can let him edit my shit and he'll get it done. And he did. Let's talk about the music set, though. Oh, what's the hardest part to let go? I didn't let go of anything. No, not letting go. I said, what, are you letting people, I'm sure you're letting people engineer you now. I'm sure you're getting beat from other people now. Barely. Yeah, this thing. So, music is really your baby. That's my baby. I promise you it's my baby. But nah, I still engineer myself, but I send my music over to get mixed. It's my boy CJ. Shout out to my boy CJ. CJ, the great, he's amazing. He mixed and mastered my work. That was hard. That was probably the hardest. Letting people engineer or mix? Mix. Okay. All right, so now letting other people mix your music. Was you nitpicking? Was you one of those people? Oh, yeah. I think we got up to like number nine or 10 mix. Yeah. Okay, so. All right, so. Sorry, CJ, I love you, man, I appreciate you. Nah, it's cool. I feel like everybody, when something's your baby and you're passionate, I feel like you was gonna find something wrong with something. So now shooting videos, shooting your videos now, are you directing everything? Like from start to finish of how you wanted to go? Is it hard to like turn the director hat off and be the artist? So I don't direct, I don't direct my videos. I create and direct my videos. So I have a team called the Sparkplugs. They direct all my videos. Okay. And I trust them. I trust them. I trust them with my vision. So yeah, I just let them do what they do. So yeah, it's not that hard. Not with them, at least. Okay, just the music part. It's off. Just hit the remote. Hit the power off. Yep, there you go. Cole, you were jokes. What's your song? I'm a Virgo. Ooh, that's what makes so much sense now. You're a Virgo? Nah, I'm a Leaver. What's that mean? You were so close to being great. Nah, I'm playing with you. Yeah. What is, why am I saying? Like what, what does that mean? Nah, I know, I know, I know how you are. I know your traits. Damn, like good. One of my, my best friends is a trip. Million dollar ride, it's a fucking great ride. Virgos are good, right? We good? Y'all good to a certain extent. Okay, we a little bossy? Yeah. Okay, so now you put the creative vision together. They directing it for you. Are you nitpicking at this, or are you just kind of leveling it? Nah, not at all. Not at all. Okay. You'll be surprised. Set us to the camera. Yeah, like I'm not at all. I'm like, I'm responsive. Anything they want me to do, I'm gonna try it out and everything, yeah. Because I know how it is. If it was on the other foot, you know what I mean? Like I've been with artists. No, I've been with artists what I'm trying to direct and they ain't giving me that energy, you know what I mean? Like, and I wouldn't want to get that to them, you know what I mean? Because I know how that shit feel. I already know. Okay, so your EP is, what's the creative process behind your EP? My EP, the inspiration was from, you know, the first mixtape. If you've seen the first mixtape cover, you probably don't, because it's nowhere anywhere. But that epiphyse RIP, so that was the only place it was living. But it looks very similar to, hopefully I can find it, but it looks very similar to this cover, but it was like digitized as cartoonized. And pretty much I recreated it in real life to show, you know, growth and maturity. And I had my boy, $1,000 Ross Spray paint that already is on the backdrop. Who's, you know, that meant a lot to me for his artwork. I had my boy owner take that photo. Meant a lot to me, you know, it's a lot. So this is a real meaningful project. Everything about it. Even I dropped it on my brother's birthday, who passed, yeah. Okay, so is this the project that you held on to back then, or you added new songs? No, this is all new songs. All new songs? Yeah. So you got Back in the Groove, you're back in the studio, got a new vibe. What's the vibe now going into it? 2008, I mean 2006, something like that, we said. You learned the lesson and learned from there, promoted that, marketed that. So now moving into it, also working with so many artists at this time. So now what's going into it now? What's it, what are your thoughts? And creating this project? I had to, I just had to be as vulnerable as possible. Like honestly, that was my whole mindset going into it. Like yo, just be vulnerable as vulnerable as you ever been and just go for it and don't be afraid to just like, let it go because I had so much music that I held on to, you know what I mean? Just gotta let it go, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. So is music more so therapeutic to you or is it just like? Super therapy, it's probably like, yeah, D therapy for me. So is it you have to be in a mood to go to the studio or? Well, my studio's in my crib, so. Oh, that's whenever you feel like it. That's my living room, yeah, yeah. Yeah, so whenever, yeah, I had to feel something though. Like that album, that EP stemmed from a breakup. You know what I mean? And I noticed like, it's like, cause like all the great, like MJB, you know what I mean? She's one of my favorites. Every time she had a breakup, she came out with a fucking insane album. Summer Walker. Summer Walker, yeah, fucking, you know what I mean? I think it's something, you know what I mean? So like, I noticed like that's probably something. I know I have to go through something traumatic to do something insane. Okay, so what has the reception been like? It's been amazing, like beyond amazing. Okay. The show, the show really like stamped a lot of things. Cause you got to see it in person? Yeah, a lot of people, like the energy, the fucking love was beyond, just like beyond what I could have imagined. Was that your first time performing? No, that was my show, first show back. First show back? So that was your first time performing? I've done a lot of big shows back in the days. Oh, okay. Like I did SOBs, How Long Ballroom. Okay. So that's your first show back. And everybody's fucking with it. Do you see a lot of the fans that you had back then? Yes. And that's the thing that makes me smile the most in, you know, warrants my heart the most is that they stuck around for 10 years. Wow. Okay, so what's one message you want to give to your fans? You're not going missing on them again, right? What's the one message you want to give to your fans? I'm not going to miss it, nah, nah. That was my message. I'm not going to miss it, y'all, no more. I'm here to stay, I'm here to stay, man. It's official JL, JL shot that both. I'm here, I'm both, you know what I mean? Just call me JL, you know what I mean? But you're going to figure it out, you know what I mean? But the same message I give to everybody nowadays, be a good person, man. Because it's better to be a good person than to be a talented person. Because I'm talented, people ain't going to go nowhere, if they ain't good, you know what I mean? So just be a good person. All right, and I was going to say, what advice do you want to give people, but you kind of gave them? Yeah. So, okay, if someone never heard the EP, what song should they hear first? Oh, that's rough. I love Tell Me What You Want. Tell me what you want? I love that record, yeah. So if we- What would y'all say? Oh, just press play, wow, nice. So the first one, Out the Gate. Oh, you're not, Out the Gate slaps. Okay, okay, okay. Future and Nika Morse, that's my only feature on the album. Okay, okay, okay. Have you listened to it? I'm not super, super into it yet. I'm sorry, I'm late to the party, y'all. Okay, you gotta listen to it. Yeah, put me on. That's how I act, was the first one, and I got to hear. Oh yeah, no, once you press play, once you press play, I think you're gonna- I bet, I bet. So next time I see you, I need a little review. Okay, that's fair. Hell yeah. I'm gonna run and pull on you. Nah, you good to see. All right, so tell the people where to find you, how could they tune in? Yeah, find me, you can go to jailshotthat.com, honestly, that has everything there, but if you wanna find me official JL on Instagram, JL Shot That on Instagram, yeah. Everywhere, same thing, JL Shot That or official JL. I kinda linked the two in a sense, so yeah. Make it easier for people. I need to make it easier, yeah. I ain't gonna friend, that's been a downfall of mine so far because a lot of people can't find me because they looked at JL Shot That instead of official JL. Officer JL. What, something's gonna happen soon. So maybe you should make a project called official JL. What, like, name, it's like self-titled. Maybe, just like, gotta find creative ways to do it. Yeah, gotta find a medium, yeah. Medium and not. But yeah, all right, y'all, and me out.