 Okay. Bruce, do you want to go? Yeah, sure. Absolutely. Bruce Budrick, director of facilities at Amherst housing authority. Been here for a few months. So I'm jumping into this project, you know, midstream a little bit, but, you know, I think we're picking it right up. And Chad did a lot of the leg workforce before I came along. And learning as we go and trying to make sure we. Take care of everything needs to be taken care of. Josh from diversified construction. We're in the general contractor. I'm Gus. A dome and project manager. Linda O'Brien. I'm the wage consultant. The town of Amherst. I think Jared Gost is also here. He's going to install the siding. And so is Jared with, is Jared with diversified or is he a subcontractor? He's a subcontractor. Right. So yeah, Roy is the architect Roy. Sometimes you cut out. I don't know if you feeling closer if we can hear you better, but sometimes I feel like there's a little difficulty hearing you. So I guess. And there's Pamela Rogers, the executive director of the Amherst housing authority who may join us. She's not here right now. So Josh, is there, are there other subs on the job or is it. Just the one. We might have a little bit of electrical work to do. Yeah. So what's it Jared's company. My name is construction is the company name. Okay. I'm the a hundred percent owner. Actually, this one, this is first response action. I'm sorry. I have two different companies. This one's under first response. So your first response. Okay. Well, I'm the owner and I'll be there all times throughout the whole project. I'll be there. Yeah, the one that's all exciting as well. All right. Yeah, that's important. Just, you know, Linda needs to interview every trade. Maybe we could have Linda go since that also informs some other things unless then that, you know, is there something else you want to walk through? Just general scope of work, I guess. Well, actually, it's helpful for me to hear some of that. and where we landed with everything? Yeah, sure. Watson Farms siding and actually roof. So the whole building envelope is in need of some repair. We hope to hop onto the roof next. But for the siding, quite a bit of the siding was just falling off all around the building and just in pretty bad shape. And so we have a project to replace it all. That's going to be removing of course all the siding, repairing any damage, water damage underneath because it seems like there was a period of time where the siding was off and water was able to just penetrate to the sheathing underneath. So I'm sure there's going to be some repairs. And that's why it's included in the spec. And I did have a federal React inspection in April. So what I did is in order to pass the inspection, I went ahead and had some siding work done temporarily. It was killing me to put thousands of dollars into something that I'm going to replace anyway. But you'll see that there is what we did is use some hardy board. It's not an exact match, but it's around the project here and there just to button up the areas that was falling off completely. So that's about it. We want to get it all replaced and buttoned up so we have a good building envelope. Could we back up for my benefit? Because I always think of Watson farms as like two distinct kind of developments on that property. The newer building is right by the entrance and then the smaller buildings. Which ones are we working on? Sure. So not the ones right by the entrance. Not the new ones. Not the new ones. We don't manage that. So once you pass that, go past the dumpster, the ones further back. And it also includes building 15 is the unit 15 is the one all the way down. It's almost accessed from the other street from east. I think it is. Matter of fact, you cannot access it like drive up to it from that way. There's a walkway you could get to. But that's a single unit there and that's included. So it's really multiple buildings? Yeah. So for Linda, if everyone, if you come off Main Street here, I'll just back up, it was Watson Farms Drive. So this building here and then that's Main Street Housing, which is not part of Watson Farms. So we're looking back now. And if you go and go to the left, here's another new building. Still part we call it Main Street Housing. And Watson Farms is all these single story, like one and a half story. I guess it's like two story buildings back here. So there's more than one building in Watson Farms. These are six buildings. And we're doing all six. So it's all these buildings here. Yeah. And the sheds aren't being touched, are they? Well, we're not touching the sheds because the budgets have gotten so high. So we're going to dress up the sheds with my own team, my own workers. We're going to kind of clean them up a little bit, make them look nice because we don't want to be an eyesore after everything else is all pretty. And the last building, 15, you mentioned, is this one back here, right, Bruce? It's the one that's in the back too. Yeah, that don't look like it because it's not a two story. So I don't know if you can go any further around the corner. Can you still drive up the road? I'm familiar with the site. I got Bruce was using the word building as a singular, and that's where I was getting off on exactly what's the scope of this. Yeah, well, that's that one you were talking about is further back still. Still further back. OK, is it? Yeah. Wow. Yeah, keep going. And you'll see it through that walkway. See the walkway there? It's that one up to the distance. And then you see that car in the driveway. Right. Oh, so that one too. OK. Yeah, so that building's included. If we're looking at this building, I mean, you're taking off window trim and door trim and everything, but you're not touching the actual window or doors, right? Correct. And then what about like up here, like under the roof? Are you just kind of just doing the up to the fascia or something or the? Just the trim up there. No stopping or anything. Yeah. Now, Roy, was the was the drip edge included? I thought the drip edge was part of it. No. I don't know the roof. OK. And no lead in this, right? So it's already. Yeah, it's all right. We don't touch any lead. Great. And there's no relocation or anything either. So all the tenants can remain. Yeah. All right, I can stop my share then unless. That was Andy, though. Yeah, I didn't realize Google Street View went in there. Poor person, probably thought it was a through road and then realized they had to turn around. And then we have a length of an expected time for how long this would take if, you know, it's like. I'm hoping two to two and a half months total. And so, yeah, I mean, once you have to, we still have to, you know, staff met with Roy and Bruce just the other day to talk about this. But materials still have to be ordered and everything. So we're not, I mean, there may be delays. Until you were actually on the ground. Yes. Yeah. But once you're there, you can say two to three months. All right. Yeah, I'm looking at seeing what the duration for the project is. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. I forget what it said in the in the specs, but. Yeah, I guess. And so part of being on site, you know, one of the requirements is for the contractor to install a sign acknowledging the block grant program. And so, and then also posting the labor standards and wages. And so that can be on. Where is the sign in the bidding documents? I never, I couldn't find it the other day. I think Ben may have just emailed it at the end of his PDF. So we didn't have it. Page two of the PDF. Yeah, I saw what he sent over. I just didn't put any money in there. What if I sent it? I didn't see it in the original bidding. It was in the adepth. Oh, yeah. What are what are the requirements for this set? Like, is there any requirements for the size and material of the sign? Here, like a four by eight piece of aluminum. No, it can be. We just say a laminated piece of paper that's, you know, stapled to a piece of plywood. You know, it does have to be visible. Linda, we'll take a picture. You know, we, you know, if it's like two by three feet, like, you know, just to, yeah, nothing. I mean, it's just meant to last the duration of the project. But as long as we're told when it's up and we can take a nice picture of it, that satisfies our requirement. So it is something that the, you know, the block grant program really wants to know that, you know, the sign and the labor standards and everything I've been posted on the job. OK, yeah, we can make it. We'll put the labor standards or whatever, probably in the trailer or something. Is that? Well, no, probably the labor standards, OK, but the wage rates have to be at a place where the workers can go without you seeing them. They're, that's why we like to put them on the back of the sign. If you put them in like a plastic envelope or something and then throw them in there and just staple it to the back. Because theoretically, they shouldn't need to, you know, be in a space where they can be observed looking at. OK, better. So, yeah, this sign is in it's on page two of that packet I sent out. If you want, I can get it to you again. If you're happy to find it, I have that. I just couldn't find it in the original thing. Gotcha. Yeah. Yeah. OK, do we want to jump into wage rates and labor standards and that conversation? Yeah. OK. So there were two wage decisions in your contract and you're responsible, the contractor record is going to be responsible, ultimately, for compliance. So diversified, you know, you're going to be responsible. And they should determine what the wage rate is by which you ever one is higher. So there's a different wage rate for carpenters. Pick the higher of the two. And, you know, with the state, there are changes. So watch those on the federal side. There are some mandatory vacation. It depends on the trade. You may not hit any of those, but trades are more likely to have unions. They do have days. So if you run into this job runs into Labor Day and you're in one of those trades, you're going to provide anybody who is on site that week who fits that category needs to get a paid day off. OK. I'd like to improve for that. If if you use any apprentices, you can only you pay the apprentice wage. If you're that part of a bona fide, you know, state or federally approved apprentice program can't call somebody an apprentice and then OK, the wage rate. We have to have the backup wages should be submitted to weekly. In past authority, housing authority projects, the housing authority has liked to, as the owner, collect the original submissions. And then we found the best process is to send a electronic copy of that to me. And then I will be on top of where we're at because when your pay ret comes to Amherst to be paid, Nader Ben is going to send me an email and ask me what the status of your payroll submissions are. And I they will hold that payment until we're either current or in pretty good shape. And so I don't if these just go straight to the housing authority. Our experience has been they don't make it to me on a very timely basis. So just CC me and electronic copies in the original. Bruce, maybe you can talk with Pam and see where she wants those to go, whether it's her office or to you or whatever. I just know I there's a I sent out the my little cheat sheet on this process earlier today. And that's got my email address on it. You just email them straight to us. You need OSHA cards. Now, I will say that sometimes so proprietors are subject to prevailing wage for any of their employees. So if you're the only employee, Jared, on site that week, you just put down your the owner. But if any of your employees are still subject to it and so you'd have to provide, you know, pay them prevailing wage. OSHA, yeah, OSHA cards for anybody on site. I noticed that the the form that is in your contract, you have to report on the federal rate reporting form. I think since that maybe the package was put together, there's a new version of that that's out. It's got a new because that one said expired 2018. So if you look at my little cheat sheet, there's a link to the web and that'll give you the current version that you should be using for this. So can you give me an idea what kind of trades you might expecting to have on site? It's just going to be carpentry. Carpentry. Any laborers? Carpentry. What about the roofers? That's a different category. No roofing is happening. That's a project related. Oh, that roofing there. OK, someone said roofing at the beginning. I'm sorry, I did. I did. We're going to be tackling that next. Oh, OK, came out. All right. It's just siding and maybe an electrician, right? Maybe. Maybe. OK. So the state has been telling us that they want us to do multiple interviews, you know, kind of toward the beginning of the project halfway through and toward the end. So I may have to come more than once trying to catch these folks, different people. So I guess just keeping me in the loop as far as schedule. Be really helpful. Just carpenters, it'll be a dream. But like if you do get an electrician, I really need to know that they're coming to have to have an interview. They don't like us doing them over the phone. Yeah, we like to say that from the funder end of this, that side of the state, that they can't come out and look at the project and say, that's a lovely job. They don't have an expertise. So they spend their time nitpicking the paperwork. And that includes this payroll stuff and they just get into the weeds on it. And so I have to pass that tough love on to you guys. I apologize for that in advance, but I have to be really picky because it keeps the town of Amherst and good good graces with the funder. I think we did this with you on a project with Taylor Day. That's over on. Yes, you did. Yep. Yes, you guys. I know I know we got into a flow and it went really well. But yeah. So I mean, please pass that little hand out along whoever does your payrolls. Yep. Wonderful. OK. Yeah, Linda's great. Don't she she looks nice, but she's really tough. So that's why we use her. She's no, she's really good. And it is something that the state, I mean, they really spend a lot of time monitoring the wages. It's it's ironic in terms of, you know, what they look at. But wages are really important. So we thank Linda and you for all the help and cooperation. Because it's something that, you know, if it if there is a problem, we want to make sure we we resolve it before the project is complete. You know, we don't want the state to find it after the fact and then have to come chase everyone later. I think that's it for me. All right. And then I guess, you know, Linda mentioned apprentices, but there is no are there any new hires or apprentices on this job or any anything that's happening? No, I don't think so. Correct. All right. That makes it a little easier. And then, you know, for reporting, the we have to submit quarterly reports. So the calendar quarter, they're due. You know, say, like, you know, so the first quarter of the year, it's due in April, April 15th. We ask the housing authority to send the town something by April 10th. We have to, in turn, submit it by the 15th of the state. And so, you know, typically we base it on payrolls, but also we need images of the project. And, you know, sometimes Josh, you may ask the contractor just to, you know, clarify what's been done or what's remaining. And so, you know, this is our chance just to also say that everything is going according to plan. But if it isn't, you know, for instance, say we order material and it's back ordered, you know, we want to be up front with with our funders because we could get an extension of the grant or thing. So, you know, if there are issues, I'm assuming we'll hear from Bruce or Roy as well. But, you know, it's a it's a chance to just provide an update and be honest. I mean, I think in the past, people try to sugarcoat these quarterly reports. And then you at the end of the product, you say, oh, but, you know, there's actually a problem and we need a year extension. And they'd say, well, wow, you know, the last few reports have been really fine. And so, you know, I think we still want to make it look nice. But, you know, if there is, you know, if there are issues or something, right, if it ends up being a really rainy summer and you just can't get on site. I mean, you know, things that are unexpected, it's great to, you know, have us be aware of that. You know, we can say we're going over the wage and labor standards. There's this, you know, in the pack, we have a civil rights and equal opportunity thing. So I think in the big documents, there are a number of forms that need to be signed as part of the contract state and block grant forms. So I haven't, you know, those go over all those saying that, you know, you will, you know, if you have hiring goals, you know, this is what you'd need for the project, which doesn't sound like it's an issue. You know, you have to post the labor standards on the site and have affirmative practices, which again, seems like that's all set. Yolanda did mention OSHA cards. So that can be, those can be emailed. So any, you know, I think whoever was sent an email for the pre-construction meeting, it's good if that just becomes an email chain. If there's questions or OSHA cards or other things, it keeps everyone in the loop. I'm just going through the PDF that Ben sent out. I don't really have any other immediate comments. You know, the contractor will still have to or the housing authority, you know, we still need building permits from the town or any other permitting will go through the town. So we're not, you know, that's not, we're not waiving any of those requirements. So if there is, you know, a building permit that's needed or anything else. I haven't filled in. I haven't. I haven't submitted it, but it's all filled out. All right. And, you know, for staging and material, I'm assuming, Bruce, that you've coordinated all that and like parking, there isn't, you know, any impact to, you know, like a public right of way or anything. We should talk about it at some point. I'm going to have to have a context box there somewhere. So yeah, if possible, we, we meet you on site sometime for that. Yeah, absolutely. OK. I don't know. I think I think that I don't know. I think we've covered everything we might need to. So in a sense, what's the idea of when this might start? I mean, I don't have my schedule in front of us, but what were you thinking? Well, I'll get to the time, maybe September, depending on the lead time, but I still have to get approvals from the mills and find the eight times there. So that's probably going to be the biggest. I mean, could we say, I mean, yeah, I mean, if we said September one and we think, you know, three months, I'm glad that that's done this season, it's not going to carry over. We're hoping to get it done this season. So like I said, I just once I get I'll send the seminal to Roy either today or Monday, and once I get lead times, I can give you a good answer right now and just be kind of making stuff up. Because you never know. Like sometimes, you know, they'll tell me two weeks. Sometimes it could be 20. Right. So I don't want to get anybody's hopes up or crush anybody's hopes today. I'm assuming you're going to go one building at a time. Are you or are you going to? Me and Jared talked about that a little bit, but yeah, I think, you know, we'll be finishing up one and starting the next one at a time. Don't forget the big thing right now is materials coming in. I mean, they can say they're going to be in first of September and we can say go. But what I've been doing is waiting until they're actually shipped in on the ground and at the supply store, then saying go, there's a big problem with that right now. Wouldn't you say, Josh? Yeah, I agree. Like even sometimes you get material and it's like broken or broken or it's been interesting. Right. I'd rather 100 percent of the time the ground is to roll base it off of when they say it's going to. All right. Yeah, I mean, I think that's good to know just the scheduling as we get closer, especially for Linda, since she has to have job interviews with the trades. It's, you know, if there's, you know, if someone's in, you know, if an attrition is needed, they're only there for an hour, one day. Yeah, you know, we really have to coordinate that. So, you know, if it's, you know, if you're going sequentially by building by building, you know, maybe, you know, Linda, if you can't make one time, maybe there's another time or, you know, I've done interviews too and that people don't like me as much. But, you know, there's a way we have to get it done. Yeah, I'll try to, whatever, maybe we'll see how it goes. I don't know if he's going to try to do more than one service reconnect or whatever he has to do there. Right. You know, there's an order of conditions on the agenda. Is that for real? Yeah, I was going to ask that. Or is that just left over from a previous project where there was site work? I was going to say, there's no site work associated with this, is there? And I think when we did the Watson Farms Paving, there was an order of conditions, but I don't think we needed it for the siding. It's a little bit over. Yeah, good, good. Because there could be another holdup. Yeah, no, I don't. Yeah, that's not as relevant to this, just to make sure. All right. I think we've I feel like we've covered everything. I don't know if there's any other questions or. I don't think so. You know, good, I think. Yeah, and so I guess, you know, after this, you know, as part of the the block grant requirement and maybe from DHT, you know, there'll be a notice to proceed and that becomes kind of like the official start to the contract. And so that will have time of performance and the wage decisions and, you know, have an estimated start date, which could be, you know, next week, for instance. But, you know, as soon as we get the letter out, it'll be available to start. So and then, you know, I guess, like you said, there's some middles and other things that would go to Roy and Bruce. But from our end, you know, we have a notice to proceed. And then it's just a matter of just staying in contact when, you know, things are actually happening. And so, you know, we'd like to be involved with, you know, a job site meeting at first, maybe the first two. And if everything is going smooth, you know, Ben and I from the town don't necessarily have to be there. But just as the project starts, we'd like to be involved with that. And then, you know, see that the signs and everything else are posted. And after that, we don't, you know, we're not as involved. You know, we can just be coordinating through Roy and Bruce. And as far as meeting over there, Josh and is it Jared, is that who would be meeting to work out logistics? Let me know. I think I'm on the email chain. You have my contact info and we can pick a date when you want to go over there and take a look at it and work out the logistics. Sounds good. I'll get the submittals in and we'll get that organized. And then maybe me and Jared can find a day we can meet you over there and coordinate that. All right, Linda, do you have any more questions? Are you feeling all right? OK, great. Thank you. All right, Roy, you all set too? Yes, sir. Great. All right, well, thanks, everyone. Have a good weekend. Thank you. Thanks. Take care. Bye bye.