 This is covering the spread part of the Fandall podcast network We have got a battle of former NFC West quarterbacks going on tonight We got Jimmy Garoppolo heading to Detroit stake on Jared golf and the Detroit Lions in a game that I think is gonna be pretty fun For tonight, hopefully not close for my purposes, but hopefully high scoring is what I need for today We're gonna break down a Raiders at Lions for today break down our thoughts on the Available markets of our fandals sportsbook by talking to Ryan Williams and picking his brain on Monday night This is covering the spread right here on the Fandall podcast network and Fandall research. My name is Jim Sonnis I am a managing editor of digital media for Fandall research joined here as I am every Monday by Ryan Williams Check him out on Twitter at Ryan Alexander Underscore W. Ryan. It is Halloween weekend. How you doing today? Oh? Halloween weekend, you're gonna throw that out there I could be very scary into the to the weekend here. I just had you watch start our local team Bears on prime time. I can't believe they have many more prime time games to go before the season is wrapped up Please bring Justin Fields back hilarious to me that people thought Tyson Baygent was the answer winning over the Raiders team who we're gonna talk about Tonight so yeah Raiders Lions. This should be an interesting one, but but yeah, we're feeling good We're feeling good Jim. My question to you is how persuasive is Matt Eberfluss that he was able to persuade like Chris Collins worth that? Like Tyson Baygent was like someone that Justin Fields should be watching like Chris Collins worth I respect a lot as an analyst I think he's a really good job of being like grounded he can be critical and stuff like that But like the praise of Tyson Baygent last night felt very odd to me Yeah, I the praises You know, I guess yeah, there was somebody in his ear telling him that he needs to be saying that in talking to Collins worth about all the things that Baygent does well that Fields could that Fields could learn from Which I just found absolutely hilarious, but Yeah, you know Whatever Eberfluss needs to do to kind of you know, rest easy and that to make sure that he's still employed Come 2024. I don't blame him. Yeah, absolutely now We're gonna break down this Lions and Raiders game I will say I'm very nervous because I do like the Lions here and every team I like this week how their quarterback get hurt So I don't want to hurt my son Jared golf. 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Let's dig in now to the Raiders at the Lions were right now at Fandall sportsbook The Lions are seven that point favorites in the total in this game So it's a 46 and a half of the point from where it was yesterday two points up from where it was back on Tuesday now Ryan this is a pretty hefty spread The week after the Lions got destroyed by the Ravens But I did still lay the points here at seven and a half myself also had been a teaser with the Chargers So I'm in on the Lions despite a hefty spread here. What's your read on that aspect of this game? Yeah it's It's just a tough number Jim. I feel like so, you know and in the Public money is coming in It's honestly insane like we're close to I was just looking at it 87% of the bets are on the Lions right now 91% of the money is on the lines I don't remember the last time I've seen numbers like this now granted this can start, you know to come down We got a lot of questionable We had a lot of players who are questionable in this game. Um, it is the Raiders. They have not looked great But Jimmy Garoppolo being back in the mix. I think does help some things We got a lot of you know narratives that are starting to brew themselves here, you know what Josh Jacobs Potentially gonna be getting going and Devonta Adams Dante Adams I still feel like has the squeaky roll narrative going in his favor and you know to help you might like they have Pieces on the side to be able to keep up It's also in Detroit, which the games in Detroit have, you know gone exponentially over the total In the Jared Goff era So, you know, we're looking at under 47 on the total like this is a slam dunk play for me on the over I get it's an island game I get where you know the passing and scoring is down I shouldn't say the passing but scoring is down in the league, you know year over year and that's been One of the narratives but at 46 and a half like this is just way too low for me When we're expecting, you know, most of the pieces In the offense to be playing outside of the ones that we already know about heading into the weekend So I'm probably leaning Vegas Seven and a half and the over at 46 and a half if you had to tell me to pick one It's gonna be the total but but yeah I think the Raiders do try everything that they can to keep Involved in this game and and hopefully their defense shows up So I did mention I need points too and that is in part because I do think I agree with you where this this Vegas offense with Garoppolo healthy has been fine like they haven't been great, but they've been fine. And if you give me a fine offense Against a a Lions team that should put up. I would think a good number of points in the spot I do show value in the over my total models has been betting a lot of unders this year But I've got this number of 49.9 Which is pretty high not gonna lie to have it up a 49.9, but It gets there because it's a larger spread Which means it implies there are more points scored in this game. I have the spread as being larger On my end than what the books have it at so like those things combined into being indoors two good offenses You know one pretty bad defense in the Raiders side of things that has up to me liking the over So yeah, it's gone up two points and you would rather have had a 44 and a half So like hopefully you've got it then but if you are just looking at this game now I do still think there's value in the over despite the fact that number has gone up 46 and a half right now Minus 115 if you want the Raiders side the plus seven and a half is minus 112 The Lions minus seven and a half is minus 108 right now over at fangirl sports book Now you alluded to Some potential absence is here for the line. Let's go through those right now because we know David Montgomery will not play frank rag now is doubtful with their center They've got some other injuries or along the interior of the offensive line and a monra st Brown is questionable with an illness now with the a monra thing I'm questioning if that's related to the bijan robinson thing because we saw michael thomas Get out of the injured port with an illness this week Patrick my homes was added and it seems like teams got the memo of hey, these guys are sick add them to be safe and But a monra is also questionable So like I haven't seen the updates on him yet as of today as far as what his status is There are no props of for him at fangirl sports book and that does limit the overall menu But what's your written alliance props given that they do have some injuries? And a monra st. Brown is up in the air. What are you seeing there right now? Yeah, I'm I'm gonna hold For now, I think a monra's playing like I you know, just the way that the weekend went and the the way that these guys will listen now how Sick quote-unquote is he and and things that nature I I guess will wait to find out I mean, you know that that's kind of the narrative of the game because he changes the whole outlook Of this passing attack and and who we want to get exposure to now I will say the guy who is probably least affected by that is sam la porta And I actually kind of really do like this match up even though it won't jump out on the page Paper but like let's you know, we can put the rookie tight ends can't come in and play right away narrative to rest Thanks to sam la porta because he's he's been absolutely amazing His reception profit over four and a half plus 126. Let's just lock that in now because that's a that is I won't say lock, but that is a nice bet to have should a monra be out It's a decent bet to have if on my rod is in And I see you have the the alt reception props up there like I eat It's just a great match up for him to be able to eat Against this defense across the middle of the field So love getting some action on sam report another other guy who would be interesting too would be josh runnels I mean josh runnels has definitely carried over the relationship when they were at the rams with jared gov to have something there It does pain me to you know, look at my jameson williams williams teams and think about you know What could be if he gets a shot? But you know josh runnels has definitely been involved And and I would be interested in getting Some props on him, but probably more so right away When on my raw news, you know come like if there's any inclination that we get early I would just have the sportsbook up refresh and just try and lock them in then I don't hate his numbers now, but I just think he you know, it's more of a slam dunk When he's in because I just feel like I'm on raw whatever his numbers come in that I'm going to take He's just going to be so much of a catalyst of this offense. Now jamir gibbs Is the one and and I know we're kind of talking about the passing game But jamir gibbs is just so interesting to me in this game Just with like the output that he's been seeing with david montgomery being out And really, you know, I think last week carried around 87 of the workload out of the backfield They really have been trying to get him going Rushing and receiving prop coming in at 99 and a half I swore this morning when I when I saw the number I was like, oh like I Like audibly cost when I saw how big that number was for jamir gibbs. It's it's unbelievable And it's like I don't even Is it right yet probably I mean especially like without if there's no I'm on raw like yeah But like then you're talking about okay, like that's probably where I would have it Without the guy being in officially right, right? What's it gonna change to when uh, I'm a rose if he is rolled out It's just that's that's probably a stay away from me. But I would um like to get some action Maybe in his reception Total, uh, which comes in at it's only three and a half at minus 150. But I think if you go to his alt Where do I have him here? Yes his alt receptions there, you know, if you start to get at You know Five or more than we're getting into plus money there and I think that that makes some sense The way that the raiders defense tries to get pressure So I would I would definitely look at that market before I looked at the rushing and receiving prop there Um, but yeah, what are you seeing on the lion side jimma? Yeah, the jimera gives one like I think I would heavily consider an under and either the rushing or the rushing plus receiving probably more so the rushing honestly because They're missing their center. I could see them being a bit past heavy in general in this game anyway Given there's no Montgomery. So I think that if I were looking at Gibbs I'd be looking at the under on the rushing yards a 71 and a half now I don't have my favorite one. I think I want to go to the josh reynolds one that you were talking about now Reynolds has been hitting over 35 and a half. He's hit it in every game except for one so far this year You can remember that like a monro missed a game Jameson Williams was not playing earlier on this year either. So that that is tainted but if we look at the games Since williams came off a suspension and with a monro st. Brown He's had 76 yards and 43 yards and that's heavily dependent on efficiency So like that's why this number is lowers because it's been very efficient, but like Again, if a monro st. Brown is not 100 healthy, it's a good match up for them their offense coordinator ben johnson said this week that Jameson Williams is not there yet And it's still trying to work up Full knowledge of this offense like why would you not consider josh reynolds at 35 35 and a half over his minus 113 I think you'd also consider pairing that with the jameson williams under at 24 and a half. The problem is He could he could double that in one play. So I think if you're looking for an under on Jameson williams, I'd be looking more at the reception prop, which is not currently up probably will be up later on But I would look at the reception number prop for williams look at an under there But for josh reynolds, I think over two and a half receptions is minus 106 That's also pretty enticing again given that there's uncertainty around a monro st. Brown I think that you ryan were on the right page there Honestly, both with reynolds and luporta. I prefer reynolds But I think both those guys are very very interesting whether a monro st. Brown plays or not Yeah, definitely. Uh, yeah this Even just looking at the outlook gem the passing outlook is is just one that uh, I'm really excited about absolutely now let's talk about the raider side of things because they do jimmy garoppolo back and You know despite his flaws He's beneficent and he's pushed a ton of work to divante adams and jacoby mires uh so far this year So anything stand up for the raiders for you right now ryan? Yeah, I think I wish the number was better But I will have some action on jacoby mires at any time touchdown the way he's just been utilized in the red zone on on this team and you know Plus 200 I think it was close to close to three to one When we're looking at this going into the sunday slate Last week and I mean, you know, rightfully so like with garoppolo being back, you know That just gives more propensity to a lot of these guys josh jacobs is interesting too Even though it's a one-to-one there plus 100, but he you know has not been able to find The red zone or not been able to find the end zone and favorable matchups there So I still like getting action To josh jacobs and actually you know on his reception prop coming in at three and a half only minus 115 Like I think there's some merit there josh jacobs has been you know I don't know what's happened in this new look offense with with them, but this is not a guy who we thought about You know years before about catching passes out of the backfield because they never threw to him And now all of a sudden mcdaniels and and company have found a way to you know Get him involved and he's out there making plays with his hand So I do I do think his reception prop is interesting and then it comes down to like, you know, what what you're doing with davante adams I don't think you know any any of these numbers if you want to if you want to take them I can't I can't blame you it's going to be part of the squeaky roll narrative Can they get going again? I expect points to be scored so rightfully so but to me it starts with jacoby meyers I like the 59 and a half number like the anytime touchdown and like getting josh jacob props now the one that's interesting Jim is michael mair and this is you know a bottle of the rookie titans and You know, can we get michael mair to show out now? His reception prop is only at two and a half minus one oh four. I think there's some interesting merit There are also his yards at 21 and a half This lions team, you know has given up decent numbers on the season to titans all year And so to think about michael mair getting going you also love uh that his numbers Just when it comes to the ability of what he saw in the field And I was looking at that so like when you're looking at He'd only topped out around 51 percent over the first four games of the season When we're talking about snaps and then you're seeing it, you know 66 81 71 percent so more so on the field. Let's get him going get more points going here I like his outlook at well for this week as well for this week And the 71 percent from mair last week was because they pulled starters because your browns were your bears were just destroying them So like they pulled starters and he was out there pretty much every snap before that so mair was very much involved there and I think that that does make him interesting. I prefer the mires one. Um jacobi I should clarify jacobi mires because michael mair jacobi mires the michael mire Narrative around halloween might work, but we'll all go jacobi. Oh my gosh I love it because these are mires receiving yardage totals and games like garoppolo has started not finished. He's just started them It's the 81 85 75 61 So he's been above 59 and a half and all all four and he didn't and garoppolo did not finish that patriots game Where he finished 61 his target totals in those games are 10 12 10 and seven They get to play indoors again as they do at home as well. I think that's a bonus for him. So I feel like we're kind of just not Catching on fast enough to how good jacobi mires role is within this offense So he's receiving yardage numbers 59 and a half Receptions total is four and a half minus 146, but if we look at the alternate alternate market here Which could be mires. I don't look at the receiving yardage more so than the receptions. There's not enough there I can't I was kind of we get a better better number on 70 plus, but they They were wise to my games So I think that the baseline number 59 and a half and minus 113 It's probably the better way to go here But just in general mires the guy and the two-to-one touchdown bet also is very interesting. Yeah Yeah, I I do think that uh that does have some merit to it I wish there were some more, you know interesting parts when you have that's what happens when you have concentrated offenses And you kind of know where things are going. Um, the book's able to set, you know, more favorable lines Um on what's to be expected, uh, you know We we talk about, you know, you know how much I love the tight ends jim and if we do get into a situation Where, you know, the raiders are starting with the ball michael maier To score the first touchdown Plus 2,500 uh, 25 to 1 I might dabble on that Just take a shot here. Um, you know with sam laporta being 9 to 1 on the on the inverse of that So, uh, that could be an interesting one. I get behind 25 is not bad He's almost the same odds as jared golf at 30 to 1 at the lines defense of 35 That's a good one. I like that as well So michael maier 25 to 1 anytime touchdown or for sorry first touchdown score michael maier anytime touchdown is 4 to 1 that's not bad either honestly Um, given his involvement given that we do expect some points in this game. So I don't think that's terrible personally I don't see a lot of value in the lion side of things for touchdown props ryan Like josh reynolds is plus 145. That's a pretty obvious stay away from me at that number laporta's plus 165 I don't see a lot of value in the lion side as far as touchdown props go I think the michael maier 25 to 1 first touchdown or the Myers 2 to 1 anytime touchdown or probably the 2 I like most and you've already highlighted both those Anything else you like as far as other props for this game? Yeah, uh, you know, I think we've talked a couple times just about the the prime time island game How that's been going with quarterback storing interceptions Um at at a high rate and so when we're looking at jared golf here It is at home But plus 130 for for goff to throwing an interception and this is not a You know, not a rater's team that turns the ball over. Um On Offenses very often But if they can get pressure and you know make him Especially if we're getting him without almond raw out there, you know And then it's you know changing up the game playing last minute for them It's just one that I I like to have some action on and dabble with because the the interceptions on On these prime time games have been absolutely, you know, just ridiculous and so Getting getting plus money there still let's keep that. Let's keep that ship going Okay, plus 130 for jared golf throw a pick for tonight. I think that's a very good number to get for you Ryan I am not opposed to that one either That is all that we have here for today for this monday night football preview Ryan is not with us for tomorrow is again. We have our breeder's cup preview But ryan appreciates you swinging by for today as always enjoy monday night. We'll talk to you once again next week Sounds good. Jim All right, you can find ryan on twitter at ryan alexander underscore w I am on twitter at jim sonnis j i m s a n n e s want to thank you all for tuning in Good luck to you with your bets for tonight We'll talk to you once again tomorrow to toxin breeder's cup and i'll give a look first look at nfl week number nine This has been covering the spread right here on the fan duel podcast network