 of the final week of the 2018 NCAA Summer Spectacular we just had the limited open derby final taken out by Justin Chalmers congratulations to you Justin. Thank you very much. You're really owning this event you won the same time last year how does that feel? Oh it feels great to get another one. Yeah what does it mean to have two in the bag already? Oh it's just I don't know just feels good I guess any winning this building is a good win. Now you got a two 20 and a half. What was your strategy coming into this final because you've got quite a few rides on this horse? Just be clean and smooth and not getting any wrecks you know just getting shot. Okay take us through your run and describe those three cows. So we had about three black cows that we really liked and first two of them we cut first one kind of drugs around a little bit but give us a shot off second one was they're both pretty good cows and then the third cow was just a field card so we just we knew it was fresh into the top so that's what we went with. Okay now you had I think the second highest score that's going into the semi-finals that making you feel pretty confident must have made you feel confident coming to the event tonight. Oh yes I'm really confident that horse has been outstanding all horseshow long so didn't have any worries about him just didn't want to get him in a wreck. Race style and smooth how long you had this horse? I broke him as a two-year-old when I went to work for Eddie and Bob and so I've had him all along. So describe him as he'd been like to train? He's been a very intelligent horse he moves real good smart on a cow and you know just been pretty fun horse to train. So what's your strategy gonna be for the semis? Just advanced on the clean smooth run. You don't look like you get too bothered and the pressure doesn't get to you. No it gets to me. Try to keep it under wraps if I can. Now interestingly you also had your dad in the final tonight? Yep no he was first horse out. And so tell us tell us your cutting story you obviously started out in Australia who have you trained with? Well I grew up underneath my dad for the longest time then went to work for Tommy Dvorak and Robert Rust and Sean Flynn and then went out on the hunt. Okay well it's going to be exciting to watch you look like you've got a great future ahead. Thanks for joining us.