 Hey, it's time for voiceover body shop tech talk number 64 Dun-dun-dun-dun-dun I remember we just started doing this on that graphic. Yeah, that's cool. It's really impressive nicely done But you got some cool stuff to talk about tonight, I see no, you know I got some equipment that I mean I need to get reviewed ASAP So I'm gonna preview a few things on the show tonight Great, and I have a rant about some stuff that I've been trying to deal with with you guys out there in which case I'll probably lose all my business, but Sometimes it's better to be right than to be you know than to just give in to all these things anyway Stay tuned. It's voiceover body shop tech talk number 64 right now From the outer reaches they came Bearing the knowledge of what it takes to properly record your voice over audio and Together from the center of the VO universe. They bring it to you now George Whitton the engineer to the VO stars of Virginia Tech grad with the skills to build set up and maintain The professional video studios of the biggest names in VO today and you Dan Leonard the voiceover home studio master professional voice talent with the knowledge and experience to help you create a professional sounding home VO studio and Each week they allow you into their world making the complex simple Debunking the myths of what it takes to create great sounding audio Answering your questions showing you the latest and greatest in VO tech and having a dandy time doing it Welcome to voiceover body shop Tech talk Voiceover body shop tech talk is brought to you by voiceover essentials calm home of Harlan Hogan signature products Source elements remote studio connections for everyone voice actor websites calm where your VO website isn't a pain in the butt VO heroes calm become a hero to your clients with award-winning voiceover training J. Michael Collins demos when quality matters and voiceover extra your daily resource for VO success and Now live to drive from their super secret clubhouse and studio in Sherman Oaks, California Here are the guys Well, hello there. Yeah, remember television. You know that sort of thing. I'm Dan Leonard I'm George Whitton and this is voiceover body shop or VO Tech talk talk tech talk tech talk talk talk talk Well, we're here once again to talk about your home voiceover studio Or as I would like to really get you guys to get used to the idea of calling it a personal professional studio Because I keep hearing from clients. Yeah, you got a home studio. I want to talk because they think you know You know, there's lingerie hanging on the doorknob, you know, all you know not on my studio, but of somebody's studio or a sock or kids running around or planes going over and You know, it's a new world guys But if you do it right Those aren't really a problem and you can sound as professional if not more professional than some studios I've heard out there and Yeah, it's surprisingly how many lousy commercial studios Yeah, we won't mention any names. I'm certainly none in my neighborhood Anyway, if you have questions put them in the chat room will be glad to answer those a little bit later on But I also need to remind you But this is what George Whitton and I do we help you learn how to properly Use your home voiceover studio. We get calls and emails all day long Even when we're working on other stuff, but we'll just stop and go somebody's in trouble and So one of the things we do is we troubleshoot and my goodness You wouldn't believe the things that go wrong somebody sent me a file today that was like, you know You What we have it if we ever to fix it we ever to pitch it back up again Well, it seemed well, no, you can't why it's the file was destroyed It was it had been corrupted. It could have been from the transfer service It could have been from a lot of different places, but that's what we do Professionally and but you know, we're not super expensive You know the other problem I think and we could probably talk about this a bit more is that? Nobody is Teaching this stuff when you go to voiceover school or go to an academy or go to some coach They don't know this stuff From you know from a hole in the ground And we hear it day after day after day. Well, they didn't tell me about this I don't understand about setting levels. So why do I do this? Our job is for you to be able to be a voice actor not an engineer It's not required of you to really be an engineer What you want to be able to do is set yourself up properly. So all you have to do is Hit record and sound like you you're not trying to enhance your voice You're not trying to make yourself sound like something you're not You're just trying to sound the idea of a home voiceover studio or a personal professional studio It's not to sound amazing if you're a good voice actor you already sound amazing The idea is to make it sound like you as you exist and that's what George and I do we try to make sure that That's what you'd have to do make it super duper simple Now if you'd like to work with mr. Wittem who is a top professional and we've got some get a big webinar coming up this week To where would they go? Yes, sir a good call on that plug You can head over to George the tech and if you are interested in the webinar come up that Dan is actually going to be guesting on called It's an adobe audition webinar vr. It's vio for vio pro tips And it's just stuff that you don't hear every day the stuff that's gonna make it your your production Process of recording and sending out files Especially getting the more elaborate projects much more efficient. So you'll be learning from Mine my knowledge and Dan's knowledge combined It's gonna be huge and it's on October 5th at 2 p.m. Pacific time You can sign up at George the tech George the dot-tech slash webinars Jump in there Yeah, I know I'm jumping in there ought to be a lot of fun. I use adobe audition every day You know day in and day out all these days, right? Like for 15 years You know and you know, I don't try to overuse it some people like oh, I got all this stuff now and it's like It's a cassette recorder stop play Record rewind, you know all you can see it and hear it as you're doing things So it's just a little bit more sophisticated, but you don't want to overthink it If you'd like to come work with me because I'm a heck of a lot of fun to work with just ask anybody who ever has You can go on over to home voice over studio com and Check out the services that I offer one of the things I have and it's it's always wonderful to hear what everybody's doing out There I have my specimen collection cup offer $25. You can submit your audio. I want it raw I don't want it processed. I want to hear what your studio sounds like with you in it And I will analyze your audio and we'll make sure that it sounds the way it's supposed to sound Or what it's supposed to sound like whistle So go on over to home voice over studio.com and We'll set you up there So and now we can carry on with the most successful unrehearsed show in television It's time for george's tech update I wanted to show you guys some new gear that I got in the studio the vanguard gen 2 This is the vanguard v4 gen 2. This mic was actually sent to me specifically for Just as a review unit. I have to send it back in a few days. So I'll be getting a proper review out shortly um, but this uh microphone is an update to its prior generation the v4 and I had a lucky opportunity over the weekend To record and take pictures of both mics together because I happen to be at rick wasterman's studio Where he has the original v4 and the things that stand out immediately are the physical size This is a physically larger mic than the original v4 Why I don't know But it is my theory is that Maybe the the v13 the tube microphone They sell is based on the same chassis and they just wanted to be Simplify things and manufacturing just have one Microphone chassis for both mics. That's my theory why it's larger than the old one So consequently it's a little bit larger. It's a little bit heavier The other thing that was immediately noticeably different is they changed the types of connections that are physically on the microphone So they they chose to get rid of see if I can do this without creating a total Disaster but then again, that's been the kind of the theme of the show tonight Follow 13 style Come around the very back because I can't talk in the mic and show it to you. There we go Now you can see these these switches were here last time you had a cardioid Figure eight an omni switch But what is different now is there is a pad switch With two positions zero no pad minus 10 and minus 20 And those are the only two switches on the mic. There is no longer a switch to Engage a low-cut switch So you cannot turn off the low-cut or you cannot engage a low-cut and remove rumble Which I find unfortunate I found that was like a really important feature of the prior mic because so many folks have these Ruler flat super sensitive large diaphragm condenser mics I'm in TLM 103 users Here you know what I'm talking about And to be able to have that preemptively filtered out before you even sit down and edit Or if you connect to source connect and they're listening to your studio warts and all Rumble and all in their studio. It sure is nice to get rid of that before it even makes it down the line So I wish they didn't take that out Now in terms of sound quality comparisons I do have a recording of rick and his studio with both mics back to back That'll be part of my review. So stay tuned to that on my george the tech youtube channel where you'll get to compare them Um, so stay tuned Anyway, so that's the v4 gen 2 um I've also gotten to I was broken into a couple weeks ago bicycles several were stolen My car was broken into inside my garage I lost my air my air pod pros my apple air pod pros I was obviously upset about losing a lot of gear But instead of just running out and buying another pair of apple air pod pros I decided to try something totally different. Thanks to my friend Juan bagnell Um, he's got his own tech review channel. He's been on our show. Remember having wan in in a while. Yeah Yeah, he's got a great tech tech review thing that he does Um, anyway, he's been reviewing a lot of stuff from one more. So I decided to try the one more A comp fo bud pro What a great name. That's what it's called Now I know about this company from way back because I was incredibly impressed with their their little in-ear In-ear monitors, I mean, they're they're earbuds, but they're better than typical earbuds. These have Triple drivers inside like three drivers per year, but and they sounded really good But these days I have an iphone and you can't plug the damn thing without an adapter And it's really annoying and I'm in the car a lot making phone calls. So I the air pod pros were good But for $250 they weren't great. The sound quality was mediocre Now what I love about these is the sound quality is dramatically better. I think And it comes with 22 eq presets That the app uses so you can go through them all it takes a while to listen and just change settings But I found a setting that it was so pleasing natural and and clear I'm I'm I'm incredibly impressed and it's it's loading that preset into the bud itself It's not some weird thing. We have to run an app So if you're looking for something that has true-to-life sound that you can set up for Your hearing in other words, you can make it brighter by choosing different presets These are really darn impressive. Here's here's what they look like inside their little their little house They charge inside the case the other thing that makes them tromp all over the iPad iPod pros is battery life You can't even make a transcontinental flight On the iPod pros and have the battery not go dead These can last a trip there and I think almost back again. So like 10 hours So anyway, very impressed with these and these are going to be keepers I tried several different sets from one more different kinds These are the ones that I was really impressed with about 110 dollars Something like that. Not bad. Yeah, like less than half of a pair of the iPod pros um moving on I'm uh, I don't know about you, but I'm very anxiously awaiting apples new macs to come out the new macbook pros They've been talking about for a long time. It's been in the rumor mills forever. Um Hurry up, will you that are saying could be october one might be november You know, I'm very very very much happy with the two mac m1 machines that I do own I have the m1 mac mini Now it's not without issues But I can't blame everything on the mac m1 because I'm using a lot of outboard stuff with it I'm using a thunderbolt dock. That's probably three to four years old And I'm using a usb hub and I just know from experience that the more external Hubs and splitters you have The more chances there are for things to go wonky So while I've had my share of little weird things happening I'm not going to blame it on my m1 yet because I'm I had some of this gear Too many things daisy chain things get weird. But anyway performance of the computer has been stellar And I want to be able to give this mac book air That I've been using a lot more than my girlfriend This is supposed to be here a computer I would have give this back to her and I'm I'm looking forward to the To the new mac book pro 14 inch That's the one I think that's going to be the right fit for what I want to do What do you think the price point is going to be on that? It's going to be a little expensive Because the 13 inch mac book pro is their entry level And that one's like 1299 So it's probably going to be 1600 1700 dollars, my guess Not cheap But hopefully it well it attacks right off and hopefully it'll last It'll last as long as the other mac products that I've owned because they've all had incredibly long lives Like this 2014 that we you know, yeah, I need to I need to replace the 2019 mac book pro 13 inch that I own not because it's a bad computer But now that I've had the new m1 m air you're spoiled spoiled Because the battery life's insane. It never gets hot You can edit and work on your lap literally like a laptop was designed to use without burning your skin There's a lot of pros. I mean it really is quite quite remarkable Um, I also was going to try to get a little first look for you guys tonight But I was having technical issues with my system again getting this revelator Uh to to be able to operate and do everything at the same time, but I stay tuned again I will get a review a proper review of this. This is the personas revelator io 24 and what makes me excited about it is It It makes me tell people you don't need this thing anymore for you don't need this like most of you don't need it Anyway, let's just be honest. You don't need an Apollo But this thing for a third of the price it's Physically very close and same in size like really similar in size It's actually lighter weight $200 usb usb c actually and It has onboard processing that you can Control and set up presets and why that matters is You the most useful thing completely honestly, and I know I'm obsessed obsessed about it is high pass filtering Even if you don't use any of the processing on this thing it has a variable high pass filter. So you can dial it in for your Noise floor characteristics, and I think that's huge. It's hard. It can be programmed into the unit as a preset They do have a control panel that is very flexible and powerful and maybe a little too complicated for some people to get But once it's been preset you can set up preset buttons on here that let you choose Different settings so you could have one that's like Totally bypass everything Flat flat flat and you can have another one this button over here have like a high pass filter Maybe a touch of expander Maybe a little bit of compression little sweetening things that you might like to do and um again $200 We'll see I want personas to impress me with this because they've let me down on with other stuff over the years and So far, I'm pretty excited about the potential of what this thing can do. So now I want to try it Well, when I when I've gotten my hands on it enough to get a proper review out of it I'm happy to Bring it up to the studio and you can you put it through its mill Put it through the mill that I bought that one directly from westlake pro through my rep I was like I I'm personas ain't gonna send me one. So I'm gonna have to buy it So anyway, I'm very impressed with it and I think it's gonna be impressed and really cool tool again The other thing that's really cool about it is the sound driver capabilities. So When it's in multi mode, it creates multiple in uh output drivers So you can send audio to and from different applications all wired into the system So in its little mixer, I can have one fader be your doll for playing back I can have another fader be zoom for just zoom audio or whatever and a third fader For something else and you just tell each application now you you go to Virtual channel b and you go to virtual channel a it sounds a little complicated describing it But it is the easiest setup I've ever seen for that level of features Roadcast pro doesn't do it that way Not nearly as simple and it's not as flexible And the Apollo while it's flexible is mind-numbingly frustrating To set up unless you've learned how to hack that thing This that requires no hacks. It's just built in it's it's really really really smart Anyway, my very very last thing before we get to get to our little uh home source studio rant I watch I love to do with dan um Just a little tip If you've got a sudden scratchy speaker Or a suddenly scratchy recording level going from One piece of gear to another and you're not sure what's going on or maybe you've just moved studios or changed your furniture Now all of a sudden one speaker is cutting out It's probably because you have dirty contacts And it's almost always quarter inch connections like these guys That have the problem and it's a super super easy solution and that is simply Exercising not exorcizing or exorcizing. Well, yeah, that's actually the end what you really want to do But it's exercising your connections like this put the two connections together and twist That's it. Do do exercise your connections everybody. Let's all do it. Everybody exercises Um, and that burnishes or wears away any corrosion that would have formed on these connectors That's the weak spot of quarter inch and eighth inch jacks The contact is a very very tiny point where it touches the metal and it can get scratchy So just twist it around problem solved. Can't tell you often I get paid to do that It's entirely too much money So anyway, there's my little tip for you get before we go on. All right, let's get to that proud source home studio. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, okay. So I you know, I I'm getting samples from people every day And then of course, yes part part of you know part of the specimen collection cup and and I ask people Well, what are you using and this long? List of stuff comes out, you know an apollo twin a um Actually, no actually it was it was an epigee duet But he was feeding it with a dbx 286a Yes, and some other channel strips and a pile of other things and the stuff was like Not over modulated. It was heavily compressed and if he was doing like, you know, sunday sunday sunday be there Sound like no matter what he was doing. He was yelling at you. Exactly. Yeah, right And I'm like what where'd you get all this stuff from and why are you using it? And I must have really insulted him because he didn't write back. Um But that's usually the question I ask is you know Personally, I think there's some people out there that are deliberately Sending people down the wrong track George and I rant about this all the time do not Crowd source your home voiceover studio or your personal professional studio to vote whatever you choose Because everybody's an expert in one studio their own and if they say well, this works great for me That doesn't mean anything because you don't have the experience with that And it's generally not this high-end stuff that they're recommending that makes you a better voice actor I'm always talking about how you know, well, should I get an omen tlm 103 or should I get like a a u87? It's not going to change the way you read copy It's it's not going to change anything in your brain people say well, I'll feel more confident But your income if you're unconfident with a good mic that makes you sound fine Then the issue is not with the microphone Uh people are trying to enhance their voices and they're trying to do all sorts of stuff The only thing you are required to do As a voice actor with a home voiceover studio or personal professional studio A pps and now that's not I got a new acronym pps personal professional studio It's like it's like da and your pps. Uh now it just sounds weird, but anyway What you want to be able to do is keep things as simple as possible I mean this guy was using a dbx 286 a As his power supply for his mic I mean you thought he needed that for phantom power probably. Yeah. Yeah, it's yeah It's only a 300 dollar phantom power thing But you know, you got to understand that any interface Is going to have phantom power on it. Uh and so you don't need all that What does the interface do it takes your analog signal from your microphone? Amplifies it and then turns it into the ones and zeros that your computer can understand And turn into the graphic representation of the audio that we see in our our digital audio workstation and To think beyond that Is not to your benefit keep it simple sound the way you sound in a conversation with somebody It has to do with the acoustics of the room you're in How you use your microphone. Do you use proper mic technique with it? You'll notice I can go peter piper picked a peck of pickle peppers For the entire show and you're not going to hear Why is that because I use proper mic technique and the last thing is setting proper levels which george and I rant about all the time because People don't understand it and voiceover coaches don't teach it Uh, so I'm getting a little upset with everybody saying it's I got all this great equipment Great equipment means nothing unless you're a good voice actor and so Stop buying all this stuff, you know, I already had a discussion with the people at the sweetened water place Uh and and said would you guys stop telling people to buy sm7b's and me too You know, I mean you think that you think they would listen to it You think they would hire us as consultants. No, you're preventing us from selling expensive stuff Yeah, they would rather sell an sm7 and a cloud lifter for five six hundred dollars Exactly, then if I don't then a proper mic that would actually sound good and be easier to use for four hundred dollars or three hundred dollars Right like this harlin hogan via 1a mic that I've been using You know religiously on our show here for years and years and years And it makes me sound like me which is why harlin makes it Now I don't have to run a spot this hour. Anyway uh Anyway, that's my rant any addendum comments george No, I just I just know that people do spend an inordinate amount of time in forums and chats and bulletin boards asking A lot of the same questions over and over again getting a uh, sometimes they get randomly wrong answers Sometimes they get right answers mixed in with the wrong answers. Sometimes they get answers that are just regurgitations of what they've heard from others Right um a lot of times and sometimes they're just our own information that's been regurgitated back to them But so it's very difficult if we were to vet the information they're getting back from the others And that's what makes I think crowdsourcing text stuff so Inefficient. Yeah now if you have a certain level proficiency of technology You know what questions to ask and what the context or You know that you know the constraints like you know that i'm using this equipment I'm using this situation and in this particular scenario this thing is happening. Is anybody else experiencing it with the same stuff Those are questions I ask in groups, right? But the more general questions or is this microphone any good or how do I make this? Closet sound not like a closet Those questions are gonna you're gonna get such a varied amount of information that's um Oftentimes conflicting or over a wide range of budgets and you're just it's just it's just a huge waste of time Yeah, so the bottom one money for the right support The bottom line is is you can't spend your way to a great home voiceover studio. You have to know how to do it It's not the equipment. It's how you use it And that's why we're here to teach you this stuff because we know because we've been doing it a long time And we know what's gonna make you sound your best Anyway, we got a bunch of questions to answer and we want to get to those But we also want to get to some messages from our wonderful sponsors So stay tuned george and I'll be right back with your questions right after this on tech talk Hi, this is bill farmer and you are watching voiceover body shop. It's great They're finally here Voiceover essentials has finally received their shipment of the portabouth pro 6.0 Like every business they had long shipping delays to contend with But those portabouth pros are in their warehouse now and shipping out rapidly They made as usual a number of improvements to the new booth including more reliance on renewable infrastructure material like bamboo They redesigned the cross bracing velcro front tabs for an even more rigid assembled booth And introduced their new clip script light now There are two led flexible lights with two brightness levels for more or less light on your vo copy And for the first time you can power the script clip with batteries or usb Of course, they continue their exclusive use of world-renowned orlex studio foam used by major recording studios everywhere The harland hogan portabouth pro 6.0 powered by orlex if you've been waiting Get over to voiceover essentials.com and get your portabouth pro 6.0 now Well, hello there I bet you weren't expecting to hear some big voice denouncer guy on your new orientation training for snapchat. Were you stick around? You don't want to miss this Power 1039 at target. We want you to come as you are be comfortable Okay, maybe not bathrobe comfortable Pants for the customer on aisle four, please Watch anywhere anytime on an unlimited number of devices sign in with your netflix account to watch instantly at netflix.com The ice cream maker is a big risk that can have huge reward Until you forget to turn it on Well, that's it guys time is up Hey, it's jmc. Thanks for watching the voiceover body shop if you're demo ready or looking to get there Check out jmc demos.com and see a sample of our work now. Let's get back to dan and george and this week's tech wisdom All right It's time to talk about source elements the creators of source connect source live and source nexus Tons of stuff source nexus. Maybe you haven't heard me talk about that much but what that does is allows you to make any Software source or audio source on your computer become essentially an input Into a recording software DAW like pro tools logic adobe audition Studio one reaper those are the top five. I can think of in the world of voiceover Um, and you can take another source and have that being come back in to your DAW And with the nexus pro version you can create as many of these sound drivers as you want to send audio elsewhere So you could also have audio go from your DAW Into source connect So if you want to be able to get tricky and have some processing Without going to buy some new mics or new gear and you want to Get away with it and use a little bit of processing on the input side nexus is something that allows you to do that And it lets you work with many different Applications and allows this kind of universal connectivity between these different systems that works on mac at only at this time But the main thing they're known for is source connect and that allows you to connect the studios around the world From your studio and it is definitely a industry standard I can very safely say that that has been the case especially Since the pandemic So if you want to get up and running with that and learn how to use it get a trial first, it's free Source dash elements dot com Sign up get your account started if you need some extra help There are some resources available on their site. Of course. They've got good training And I also offer some over at george the dot tech slash s See if you need additional help or some videos and different ways I can assist you But we want to appreciate we want to appreciate this appreciation time Appreciate source elements and thank them for their support of our show for gosh five plus years running And let's get to those tech questions. Let's do it You're watching v obs dot tv. I don't know why it's crazy what they do here I think I'm gonna go somewhere else and have a cheese sandwich And we're back. Yay unvoiced over body shop got lots of questions to deal with And uh, I think people are catching on to what we're saying Hopefully uh, we're putting down. Is that what you're saying, man? Yeah, maybe we'll find out. Um, first question from richard green Uh, george a few episodes back. You were talking about building some window plugs I would love to see what you came up with maybe a video or a photo piece in a future episode And two, what do you know about sonar works? Would you recommend it for someone who has a new personal professional recording studio? It wants to sound good because That's what is good and three any thoughts and uad's luna or reaper Anything else? Uh, no, that's about it. Okay No, i'm laughing richard because you're calling me out because I said I was gonna do Just that and put in inserts into my windows and kind of di y them I didn't do it. I haven't done it yet. Yeah I've I've been I've been cheating. I've been getting away with hopefully without you guys noticing A lot of processing My mic and expander gate blah blah blah trying to Mask the amount of background noise I have and I've been successful enough that I haven't gotten to that project But I have the wood frames that I've got I got the weather stripping seal kits or seal Stuff from home depot. I've already spent probably 70 bucks on materials. So It's high time. So thanks for reminding me richard and um, it's I gotta do it You know, it's I have excuse I did place an order for the plexiglass from a local vendor and they flaked on me So I was like, all right, I guess I'll I guess that was an omen not to bother So it's time to put that order in again supply chain issue. So there you go. That's the that's that's the short version I had supply chain issues richard There you go. Um So in our works, you know, it's funny you mentioned them We we actually interviewed the developer of that way back when on our show Probably was e-wabs You type in e-wabs sonar works. You might find it on youtube. Um, that guy's companies. They're killing it now I mean, they're constantly evolving But basically what it is is it's a way to to modify your monitoring to sound Either more accurate or more like some other type of monitoring like If you want your headphones to sound like other headphones Or if you want your speakers to sound more accurate, that's what sonar works does Now tying all this together They actually have a licensing deal with one more the makers of these But it's not this product that has it. They have a newer version called the color buds Which I also bought to test And the color buds actually uses sonar works as technology To tune the way they sound and it does like an eye test But for hearing it's actually really clever I mean I was so tempted to keep the color buds because they but they just didn't sound quite as good as these So I went with these But it actually had say it it would play music that you could choose from a database in the system Whatever style and it would play a phrase of that music on a loop and it would say Which do you think sounds better a or b? And it would go through this test with about 10 different options a or b a or b And then when you got to the end that was your newest hearing profile and it would set up the eq that way It's brilliant actually And the technology in in the system that's embedded using it that's embedded is sonar works So that was just so funny that you brought that up really cool. Cool. Um, and lastly would you recommend uh for someone personal New to no, I would definitely not recommend playing with sonar works to someone new to this That is for someone who's like an audio mixing producer engineer person definitely not for someone who's new and Luna I don't know anything about it other than I've tried it once It's maybe gotten a lot better, but Super not appropriate really in my opinion for voiceover. It's Just it's another multitrack recording doll Like logic and protools and if that's your thing Go for it, but definitely not appropriate And then reaper I also kind of feel the same way But if you do have a trainer that sets you up in reaper that really knows their stuff Like our friend mike delgadio the booth junkie Then give it a try if you follow his setup guidance Um, steve conningham's another fellow. I know Um, I thought I said that right then I said come if I said your name wrong steve. I've gone. Yeah If yeah, if you work with people that know, um, james romick that really know reaper You're okay. Otherwise, it's a disaster You've got to work with it just like the apollo you really need to work with a pro that knows how to set it up Reaper is the same exact way, but once it's set up, it's pretty good Okay, next question. All right Uh Pilar ureba says Have the cable from the mike to my interface causing a lot of crackling so I replaced it It's a lot quieter now, but I still hear something when I move the cable to the side Is there something else I need to check in the chain? Well, that's one of those Jiggle it and see what it's like jiggling the handle. Mm-hmm. You know, it's like, you know, is it leaking? You've got you've got to play with it if you hear it when you play with the you know with the uh Which end does the microphone or the or the interface? Yeah, which end is it that you're having the static because that also has it could be the mike In fact, I had my I was working with Rick Wasserman again over the weekend I noticed that his headphone or the microphone when I was switching mics when I plugged in his 416 It was a little staticky And when he wiggled it and on those mics, there's The very last part of the mic. This is a ntg5, but this part is held on to the mic The jack I guess you'd call it. Mm-hmm. It's held on with a little set screw, right? That comes loose. That's loose. You lose your grounding this thing. It's static city, so Could be at the microphone too. Yeah, we had that problem last week on the show And we placed the cable in the middle and then I went out and bought new cable You know what my cables they are, you know, they are one of those things that if you spend You know 30 to 40 dollars for one cable from like Mogami or One of those bigger companies it should last those connections should not get scratchy at the connector it's usually the The microphone connector itself that I think can get a little flaky Alrighty When I get this one from j. Horace black Sure. Um, oh, he has a question. I mentioned, uh, I was talking about the The new little comfort buds pro. Um, he says how's the noise canceling the noise canceling is insane That is something that one more Uh, really does an incredible job on in fact each one of these Each one of these things has four microphones embedded in it It's unbelievable There's four mics and that they're using that to improve call quality And improve the ANC or the or the um the noise canceling And it is Insane like really really good like freakishly strange It's it's it's so effective Um, and they have noise. They have wind reduction Canceling as well. So if you've used these kinds of things and it's a windy environment You can actually hear the wind being picked up by the microphones and then you hear it in your hearing Here in your ears, which isn't good. So it has noise canceling for wind noise. That's also available. So I am really impressed with it in terms of call quality. I haven't had much of a chance to make a lot of phone calls with them yet Um, I did call my girlfriend once she said I sounded fine Um, but I haven't had a chance to do like a shootout because my airpod pros are gone So I can't really say but so far my limited tests say it worked fine and uh Compa buds are a couple buds pro. These are like a limited edition version So if you're shopping look for the blue ones because these have that extra special preset mode where you can choose from different sound profiles But to my ears even without any Farting who did I say the wrong word? Yeah, I did. I don't care. It's no kids watching the internet. Who cares? Oh, it's the internet without without a lot of messing around futzing around you don't have to Even the flat mode on this thing sounded to me very good like not harsh Not, you know tinny a really really nice sound Alrighty, uh Let's see here, uh larry g from youtube. Thanks for watching on youtube already invested In the h5 recorded. That's the zoom. I assume with a caddy 100 s Problem is ds-ing because I wear full dental appliances Stick with the abbreviation or get a focus right scarlet get a monitor and do some auto ds-ing with reaper I'm not a big fan of ds-ing unless somebody's like really got you know If you have a real lisp problem or a real sibilant's problem That's a physical thing if you want to try and play with it with You know my opinion is is you don't want to start playing with filters to alter things Because if you don't set it right It's not going to help sound word almost always sounds worse. Yeah. Yeah, I mean but I mean the h5 itself is pretty good Uh for uh for recording and and a caddy 100 s great microphone very quiet Yeah, you still have one of those dan I still have one sitting in its little coffin waiting for halloween to pop out again and Come out. I mean I have it. I've used it on occasion Um, it's a great sounding mic I did find that when you use the high pass filter on it though when you was noisy, right? It would make them that microphone no easier and I've noticed that with most if you know e100 s is so Like all of them because they're all the same Um, so but that combination in itself should work just fine But like if you're wearing a dental appliance, you know, I've maybe a little bit more specific information would help like Are you wearing a retainer? Perhaps you could take it out While you're while you're recording or if you're using it to you know for sleep apnea Perhaps you shouldn't be recording while you're sleeping Those are I'm sorry. I'm not making fun of you. I'm just like Wondering what kind of a dental appliance we're talking about if you got phrases There's so much to unpack there in terms of the types of noise. Is it a hiss a whistle? Uh mid-range sound there's a there's a lot There's a lot going on there and without hearing the audio We're just guessing right now. Here's the question I've been waiting for since it just popped up from tim kelly because it goes back to the exact thing We were just talking about about 15 minutes ago. Hi guys My db x 286a has a low physical hum coming from the case It's not affecting the audio only if the mic picks it up any ideas try different wall sockets circuits and try different power leads Here's the answer. Don't use it Yeah, unplug it use it as a door stop. It's all quiet when it's not plugged in Yeah, it really is why you're using a 2b 86a who on earth told you to use that Whoever it is doesn't understand voice over audio Uh db x 286a was not designed for voice over or voice over recording It was designed really for live broadcast to maximize the signal We don't talk to other human beings through db x 286a's And therefore it is going to create a holy I would call it an unnatural sound a broadcast. He sound exactly and guess what when you're doing voice over You're not on the radio and the reason it sounds like it does on the radio Is because what they do at the radio station not what you do in your studio Yeah, so yeah, too. I think he's got the 286s, which is yes the later version of it um Yeah, they're they're very inexpensive, you know, and there's a lot of circuitry in there. So Power supply is probably going bad, you know as my guess and forget what it costs Find out worth getting fixed and I would bypass it I've told a lot of folks to bypass those things and their setups and most of the time it it sounds better without it Right, they're always saying like why wow, it sounds amazing. Why why because You didn't know what you're doing with it until you shouldn't have had it in the first place We just love to pull wires out of people's places. Oh, it's my favorite. Yeah big wad of cables Yeah, uh, you want to get richard greens question? I think we have time for one or two more here Sure, uh whirlwind makes great mic cables. They sure do Um, and they come with a lifetime guarantee. That's also a good sign if you're buying cables that have a lifetime guarantee Probably a good cable. Um, if the cord starts to make noise send it back and you'll get a new one for free So, yeah, that's another thing to look for our lifetime warranties on your cables Jeff our very own Chat room mod who's back from his hollywooding Has been killing it on tv and yeah, I can't wait to see him Dan, who do you recommend for commercial voiceover coaching? Do you coach? Do I coach not in the way everybody else does? Uh, I mean usually when people are talking to me About their home voiceover studio and I'm helping them with their equipment It's a matter of How you're using it and a lot of people over project and I will generally do a lot of physical coaching on how to physically You know present yourself to a microphone Controlling your voice, right? Right exactly because you're a singer too. So you have a singing background Don't tell my don't tell my wife that You know, they keep wanting me in the choir. No, I I can't read music that well So don't don't put me in but I you know, I've done musical theater But that's that's a whole other deal uh, but um Coaches, you know, I could mention a bunch of people and then someone will say well, you forgot me But you know, I one of the top people here in town. I you know, we've had him on our show a bunch of times is Dave Walsh Uh, who's just a great coach and a really wonderful guy and uh, you know He's he understands what it takes to make yourself sound Real and and truthful, which I think is really important. True. Tell is not true. True. Tell method. Yeah, absolutely Whoever it is you got it You got to spend at least one full session with them working with them And no if you gel right it's literally like dating you have to just go on a date You know, you have to do a coaching date Exactly, you just don't you don't know you can anybody could be recommended to you and It's just it's not you got to try it. Yeah, it's like trying to find an agent Who's gonna who's gonna work with you who gets you that sort of thing your buddy Rick Wasserman's really good. Yeah bookable com And uh, you know, I'm vio.com. So, you know, if somebody is really just getting going I you know, I might refer him to mark cashman, you know, and you can work your way up You can work with a lot of different coaches. I mean I I have I've you know, I've Debbie Dairyberry is fabulous for for doing animation coaching Laurie those characters to Larry. Yeah. Yeah, so there's a lot of great people out there But if you really want to understand good commercial voiceover, I think Dave is probably Dave Walsh is one of the one of the best. So You know, I'm waiting for the check in the mail And we're waiting for all the emails. What about us? What about this guy? What about that guy? I like this person That's fine. Sorry. That's the great thing about what you and I do those. We know everybody If we don't know them They're like, well, that's because they're not here You know, don't hear about a lot of coaches back in New York Uh, we're back east in Boston or one of those places But you know, most of the good ones are here in LA But I know there's got to be some good ones out there who are you know, they're all over the place I hear all the time someone's like I work with so-and-so in my city and I'm like Great, how's it going? Are you are you booking? Do you feel like you're being supported? You know, it's I mean I know the name of that coach doesn't mean I can't recommend them I just I'm real careful to recommend coaches because I'm not a voice actor So I don't get hired and work with voice over coaches, you know, I don't want to recommend somebody I haven't worked with as a coach. I'm so I'm really careful about that Right, you know, and there's a few others out there as well. So, uh, you know, like check it out, you know The best thing to do is when you is to do your due diligence Who are their clients? Who are their successful clients? Are they just, you know? Are they are they dragging people through the the voiceover mill and ask for referrals? Absolutely. Absolutely Alrighty Well, that's all the questions we have for tonight Uh referrals, sorry. I'm correcting myself references As for references referrals and as for references, okay. 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Um, uh, so Yeah, no if yeah if you want to throw your hat into the ring If you have some open 10 to 20 hours a week of flexible time you like to supplement your income And you're good on the phone good written correspondence. Maybe you have a little bit of computer savviness and Social media expertise, you know the more the better you are and the more versatile you are the the rate could go up So anyway, do reach out to me. Let me know george at george the dot tech Alrighty, uh, let's see here. We need to thank our donors of the week. Let's alternate. Let's start with Jill goldman rob rider subscriber. Yes Uh patty gibbons ant land productions michelle blanker christopher epperson sandra manwheeler philips apir trey moseley thomas pinto Greg thomas shana pennings and baird martha con don griffith steven chandler robert ledham michael cairns and Spicer all right. Thank you all, you know, you can donate to the show too. 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