 Welcome to WRC 19, the World Radio Communication Conference in Shamashake in Egypt, where I'm very pleased to be joined in the studio by Daniel Obam, who is the Secretary for the National Communication Secretariat for Kenya. Daniel, welcome to the studio. Thank you very much for having me. Now let's talk a little bit about WRC 19. What have been your main areas of interest here at WRC? Thank you very much for the question. Quickly, we are interested in Agenda Item 1.13, which is looking at a spectrum for IMT 2020 or 5G. We're looking at HABS, high altitude platforms, because we think this can provide coverage in the remote areas and the rural areas of Kenya. We're also interested in Satellite Issue Agenda Item 1.4, which will allow African countries and similar countries that had their situation and not possible for them to launch satellites in their broadcasting satellite service. So for us, if that agenda item is passed, it will allow us as Kenya and other developing countries the opportunity to have what they say in technical terms an improved reference situation for their BSA systems. We are also interested in future agenda items for IMT, and it's called HABS, similar to high altitude platforms, but this operates on IMT bands. So that is another agenda item we are interested in in the future. What difference is IMT 2020 or 5G going to make to Kenya? In Kenya now we are embarking on something called the digital transformation of our economy. And we have released a document called the Digital Economy Blueprint for Africa, where we are looking at the using of ICT to transform our economies. We are told that the digital economy grows much faster than the normal economy, so we think this is one avenue of transforming economies and creating employment for our youth. So we think that 5G as a technology that will help connect platforms, connect say hospitals, be deployed in manufacturing, in hospitals, in farming can help in the digital transformation of our economy. Now there's been a lot of talk of high altitude platform stations here or HABS as you mentioned and it's also very much on your agenda. How would that also help in terms of connectivity in Kenya? We have areas in Kenya which are quite remote and it's quite difficult to say to pull fiber up to cable and deploy base stations. So we think that HABS when they are deployed in the sky can be flown to these areas and be able to deliver services much, much faster than if we were to deploy terrestrial base systems. And in terms of this conference, what does it mean for Kenya and Africa? It means that we are able to use the results out of the conference to improve the livelihood of our people. I've already talked about the issue of digital transformation. So for example, if we get spectrum for 5G, we can use that in improving broadband. The issue of eSIMS, Earth Stations in Motion, we can use this to provide connectivity continuously in aeroplanes, in trains, we are building railway lines across the country, in buses running across the country and in motor vehicles that are... So we can use spectrum identified in this conference to help in increasing broadband penetration in remote areas and in areas that currently don't have broadband penetration. And so you're feeling pretty confident, pretty optimistic for the end of this conference here that you'll be going home with the expected results? Yes, ideally should ask me this question at the end of the conference but yes, we are sure that in the usual tradition of ITU, even where we are still having discussions, we are confident that we'll be able to bridge the gaps that exist as we negotiate with our colleagues and on Friday when we sign the final act, we'll be able to achieve what we propose the conference and therefore we can go and apply those and help uplift our citizens. You've talked a little bit about a number of different aspects. I just wanted to ask you if you had to choose one, what do you think would make the most difference for you when you go home? We think that the IMT will make a big difference because many operators and operators are waiting for the 5G spectrum, especially in terms of what we call use cases. In Kenya we have got what we're calling the big four agenda. These are tied to the SDGs. So we think that we can deploy 5G in improving healthcare, universal healthcare, food security, manufacturing and affordable housing. So for us we'll try and use what we've gotten from here and apply the big four as use cases for the technologies that we hope to deploy using Spectrum that we'll get at the WRC 19. Well Danny Webham, thank you very much for joining us in the studio and giving us a few valuable insights into your perspective and the situation in Kenya and Africa. We look forward to catching up with you again at some stage in the very near future. Thank you very much for having me.