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You can do so by going to humanistreport.com slash support to join us via PayPal. You can support us at Patreon. If you go over to patreon.com slash humanistreport or underneath any one of our YouTube videos, you can click join and easily support us that way. So this week we kind of randomly have a gigantic episode and I'm pretty stoked for it. Here's what's coming up. Kirsten Sinema was confronted by protesters in a bathroom. We'll talk about that. And we'll also talk about how she was confronted on an airplane and at an airport, which led to the far right rushing to her defense. I wonder why they're sticking up for her. But she wasn't the only one to feel the heat because Joe Manchin was confronted by protesters while he was on his luxury yacht. Also on this episode, a Facebook whistleblower exposes how the company deliberately uses his algorithm to promote hate for purposes of profit. And we'll also talk about why Senator John Hickenlooper seemed very concerned about that. The Pandora papers exposes how elites hide their wealth. Dave Rubin's grift begins to unravel, but for it not because a new grift from Russell Brand has emerged out of the ashes of Dave Rubin's old grift. Anti-vaxxers protest New York City's vaccine mandate by destroying the COVID testing tent. Okay, makes sense. New studies reveal that the COVID-19 vaccines not only reduce transmission, but have already saved hundreds of thousands of lives. Caitlyn Jenner reveals that Republicans were embarrassed to be seen with her in public. I mean, this story is just shocking to me, frankly. The Alabama governor uses COVID relief funds to build prisons. And finally, we end the show by talking to 2022 congressional candidate, Isaiah James. And also I will talk to Sam from Reset Race about reparations. So that's what we've got on the agenda for today's episode. It's a lot, but let's get right to it if you don't wanna watch the stories as they come up. You can use the bar to fast forward here and choose topics if you're watching this on YouTube. So yeah, folks, let's dive right in. So last week, the Democratic Party was trying to hash out details of the reconciliation proposal named the Build Back Better Act. And Kirsten Sinema stated that she was opposed to it. So rather than trying to state why she's opposed to it or pick at any particular provision within that package that she doesn't like, she chose to just abandon negotiations altogether and she left DC. Now, her spokesperson claimed that she had a good reason, right? She had a doctor's appointment. Turns out that was actually a lie because she was doing something else. So as Brian Tyler Coleman explains, Kirsten Sinema has left DC amid negotiations. Her spokesman says it's for a doctor's appointment for a foot injury, but a hotel just confirmed she will be at her pack's retreat with donors for cocktails and dinner at a high-end resort and spa in Phoenix. Yeah, so that's why she wasn't in DC. She is abstracting her entire party's agenda, refusing to even engage in negotiations. She's not even saying what specifically she doesn't like about the Build Back Better Act. She's just choosing to not participate altogether, holding up everything for everyone. And she lied about why she couldn't be there. She was with her donors. So it seems like the only way you can actually get access to Kirsten Sinema is if you're one of her multi-million-dollar donors, which is why confrontations like this become a necessity because if a politician is refusing to even meet with members of Congress, then of course they're not going to engage with their constituents. But when she was at ASU, her constituents found her and they decided to confront her and this was incredible to watch. Enjoy. The moment that our people need in order for us to be able to talk about what's really happening, we need a Build Back Better Plan right now. We knocked on doors. We need solutions to the Build Back Better Plan. We have the solutions that we need. We knocked on doors for you to get you elected and just how we got you elected, we can get you out of office if you don't support what you promised us. We need seven million citizenship for seven million. We need the Build Back Better Plan right now. My name is Blanca. I was brought here to the United States when I was three years old and in 2010 my grandparents both got deported because of SB 1070. And I'm here because I definitely believe that we need a pathway to citizenship. My grandfather passed away two weeks ago and I was not able to go to Mexico and visit him because there is no pathway to citizenship. And if we have the opportunity to pass it right now, then we need to do it because there's millions of undocumented people just like me who share the same story or even worse things that happened to them because of SB 1070 and because of anti-immigrant legislation. And this is the opportunity to pass it right now and we need to hold you accountable to what you promised us that you were going to pass when we knocked on doors for you. It's not right. I'm a survivor of human trafficking and it's because of the lack of worker protections that we don't have in the gay economy. I need you to stand like workers, lots of people who are like me who came home with us. That was absolutely amazing because you know that she was seething but she was trying to hold it together. You know she was uncomfortable. And look, here's what I would argue. Anytime Kirsten Sinema shows her face in public, she should be worried that more protesters, more constituents are going to confront and heckle her because people's lives are on the line. Those folks who were heckling her, they were actually very polite. They had real issues and they actually helped get her elected. One of them was a dreamer who was brought here when she was three years old. Couldn't even leave the country to see her grandfather who was dying because our immigration system is completely broken. You had somebody who was a gig worker at the end there and to her, this is all a game. She's lying about why she can't negotiate and get this done because she's meeting with her donors. It's despicable. This is all a game to her. So since she's not taking this seriously, you have to find her, confront her and force her to take this seriously. Force her to explain why she's against this and she's not gonna answer you but hell she needs to be ashamed to show her face in public. And until she buckles, until she does what her constituents want her to do until she does what she promised she would do when she ran for Congress, you absolutely do things like this. I think it's absolutely necessary and I love it. But she was mad. She was not happy about that and she released this statement, which says, yesterday, several individuals disrupted my class at Arizona State University. After deceptively entering a locked secure building, these individuals filmed and publicly posted videos of my students without their permission, including footage taken of both my students and I using a restroom. In Arizona, we love the First Amendment. Oh, I'm sure you do. We know it is vital to our democracy that constituents can freely petition, protest or criticize my policy positions and decisions. The activist group that engaged in yesterday's behavior is one that both my team and I have met with several times since I was elected to the Senate and I will continue engaging with Arizonans with diverse viewpoints to help inform my work for Arizona. Yesterday's behavior was not legitimate protest. It is unacceptable for activist organizations to instruct their members to jeopardize themselves by engaging in unlawful activities such as gaining entry to closed university buildings, disrupting learning environments and filming students in a restroom. In the 19 years I have been teaching at ASU, I have been committed to creating a safe and intellectually challenging environment for my students. Yesterday, that environment was breached. My students were unfairly and unlawfully victimized. Oh my God, this is wholly inappropriate. It is the duty of elected leaders to avoid fostering an environment in which honesty held policy disagreements serve as the basis for vitriol, raising the temperature and public rhetoric and creating a permission, structure for unacceptable behavior. So really, she's just angry that her students were victimized. First of all, why are you teaching at ASU? They should fire you. You have nothing to offer your corrupt politician. You are a case study in how money and politics destroys democracy but you shouldn't be the one teaching that class. It should be someone else who's using you as the basis for informing others. I mean, nobody cares. This is all just bullshit. She doesn't like that she was heckled. It seems as if those protestors struck a nerve which is all the more reason to do it again. Keep protesting her if you see her at a restaurant, confront her, protest politely, of course. You're not going to endanger her or assault her or anything but I think that politicians, if they do things like what she's doing, brazenly disregarding what her constituents and all of America wants, the Build Back Better Act is incredibly popular. If she's gonna do things like this, then I think this is the only way you really get their attention and it worked. I mean, that's proof that it worked because she had to release a statement. Now in terms of what the president thinks about this, his response was honestly amazing because he was not outraged and she's obstructing his agenda so he should be mad. And it turns out he didn't care that she was protested and protestors followed her into a bathroom. This was awesome to see. President, you're talking about how you have 48 Democratic votes right now. The other two have been pressured over the weekend by activists. Joe Manchin had people on kayaks show up to his boat, T.L. Adams, Senator Sinema last night was chased into a restroom. Do you think that those tactics are crossing a line? I don't think they're appropriate tactics but it happens to everybody from the, the only people that doesn't happen to people who have secret service stand around them. So it's part of the process. Yes. It happens to everybody, it's part of the process. Precisely, it's happened to Joe Biden and as people in America continue to get desperate, these sorts of protest tactics are going to become more and more common. But if you don't like your constituents who helped you get elected following you into bathrooms, one thing that you can do is you can stop fucking them over perhaps. That's one thing, but she's not. She's going to continue to get heckled in public. She's gonna cry victim and she's gonna claim that other members of her party, i.e. left Islam makers are the ones who's encouraging it. When in actuality, this is her own actions. Had she not left DC and actually tried to engage in good faith and negotiations with her party, perhaps this wouldn't have even been necessary. But she chose to leave to go to a retreat with her donors. So I'm sorry. Crimea River, cope, get fucked Senator. And she's not the only one, right? Because Joe Manchin, there were protestors that showed up to his yacht and we'll talk about that in a different video. And they confronted him for obstructing this agenda as well. So this is great. I hope that we see it again. Unless she actually stops being a corrupt corporate shill, then this should continue to happen so long as she's a member of the US Senate. You serve the people, but you're only serving your donors. So they're gonna get more desperate and things like this will become increasingly necessary if you continue to do what you're doing. And that is screwing them over at the behest of your corporate donors. So I've talked about why I absolutely love the protests that we're seeing of Senator Kirsten Sinema. I love the protest of ASU students following her into a bathroom confronting her about her refusal to support or even negotiate with other Democrats about the Build Back Better Act. I think that that is all necessary because if you refuse to hold a town hall, if you refuse to meet with your constituents, they have no other means of actually communicating with you. So they have to do things like this. I mean, they can leave you voice messages, but you're not gonna return their calls. You're not even gonna listen to them. Staffors will listen to them. So this is the only mechanism that they have. It's the only tactic that they have that's effective. And we know that this is an effective tactic because it actually led to you putting out a statement to talk about how much you hated this tactic. She released a statement claiming that this is not a legitimate form of protest. But I mean, protest is supposed to make you feel uncomfortable. So if you don't want them to follow you around on airplanes and at airports and in bathrooms, meet with them and stop refusing to negotiate with your Democratic Party colleagues in order to head to private donor retreats. Just do better and maybe this will stop. But you know, most people actually seem to be against Kyrsten Sinema and they're in support of these protesters. One of the protesters was a dreamer. But do you wanna know who is siding with Kyrsten Sinema here? The far right and they're rushing to her defense. Hmm, I wonder why that's the case. One of them is white nationalist Stephen Miller who used to work with Donald Trump's administration. He tweeted out support saying, as you can see below, illegal aliens are unlawfully harassing a US Senator to demand passage of Biden's budget reconciliation bill because it will give them amnesty. A confident country would not allow lawbreakers to criminally harass lawmakers to reward their lawbreaking shameful, shameful. But this is exactly who Stephen Miller is and this is one of the allies that Kyrsten Sinema is making. Someone who is against immigration, period. If he had his way, he would close off all borders indefinitely. He doesn't want anyone here who doesn't look like him, who doesn't have the same complexion as he does. And now he's defending Kyrsten Sinema because she is an obstacle to passing immigration reform and any priority that would benefit normal Americans, including that dreamer who is an American. And Mike Lee also came to her defense saying Senator Sinema is a friend. I am appalled by this behavior. There is no place in civilized society for the type of harassment she suffered. First of all, she was not harassed. They were incredibly polite and there's no place in civilized society for this much suffering, which is being caused by individuals like Kyrsten Sinema who's refusing to act. I mean, this is all the result of her own actions or inaction I should say, had she actually took the time to meet with her constituents and hear their concerns, they wouldn't have to follow her into bathrooms. This is a public servant. She serves them. One of the people who confronted her helped get her elected. They canvassed for her. And you're gonna say that this is terrible and this behavior is so appalling. You know, but save your pearl clutching. If you're gonna clutch your pearls, clutch it at the suffering that we're seeing in this late stage capitalist hellscape that far right wingers like you helped build. But that wasn't all because Turning Point USA's Charlie Kirk also chimed in and he somehow had a worse, more disgustingly egregious racist response than white nationalist Stephen Miller. I wish I were kidding about this. He told you that the Democrats are going to eat their own, that they are gonna go into a widespread Democrat civil war very, very soon. So now here you have a Democrat senator from Arizona on a college campus, which is like a home turf that is being followed into the restroom by illegal aliens. These are illegal aliens. These are trespassers in our country. They should be deported immediately with all of their friends, which won't happen. And the question is, how many Joe Biden have realized, how many Joe Biden voters have now realized that build back better is actually just a Marxist incantation. I know so many people that voted for Joe Biden that are now regretting it for good reason. Senator Sinema has responded to the left-wing protesters who recorded her inside of the Arizona bathroom, calling it a lawless demonstration, which it was, and they should all be arrested. But they won't be because if they get arrested, well, they might get arrested, but they definitely won't be deported. What would happen if a Republican chased a Democrat senator into the restroom? Insurrectionist, domestic terrorist, we would know their name and they would be arrested. If a Republican did what the illegal alien Democrat activist did at Arizona State University, they would be indefinitely incarcerated in solitary confinement. That was absolutely deeply offensive, but totally on brand for a racist piece of shit like Charlie Kirk. He says illegal aliens, these trespassers in our country, they should be deported immediately with all of their friends, they should be arrested. If I had my way, I would take 100 Dreamers like that girl who confronted Kirsten Sinema in exchange for you. If we could send you to some other country, just anywhere, I would prefer that. I'd prefer that Dreamer over you. She's the real American. You're not the real American. You're the traitor to America. Fuck you, Charlie Kirk, you're a piece of shit. And notice how embedded in everything that he says, it's always this persecution complex, this right-wing victim complex. He said that if a right-winger did that to Kirsten Sinema, they would be indefinitely incarcerated in solitary confinement. No, they wouldn't. No, they wouldn't. They've done this before. In fact, just a couple of years ago, Alex Jones harassed Bernie Sanders in an airport and he didn't have a legitimate reason to harass Bernie Sanders. He was just following him around, just spouting off random nonsense about how he has three mansions and how socialism is bad and it's destroying the country. Was Alex Jones arrested? No, it happens all the time. But Charlie Kirk really wants to believe that right-wingers are always the victims. But in actuality, it's the people who he called an illegal alien, the human being who he called an alien. That's the victim here. They're victimized by right-wing senators like Kirsten Sinema who refuse to act. Now, this became such a huge thing for right-wingers that one actually questioned the White House press secretary about Joe Biden's comments because he was pretty unsympathetic and his response, I think, was perfect. He said, yeah, it happens. This is part of the process. And Ducey's son, I'm blanking on his name, is it Steve or Doug? It's one of the Duceys, the failed son, the imbecile. He questioned Jen Psaki about this and look at the feigned outrage. It's so insufferable. A group of activists followed Senator Kirsten Sinema into a ladies' room screaming about to build back better plan yesterday. The president said today, I don't think they're appropriate tactics, but it happens to everybody and it's part of the process. He is an expert on the process. Has he ever been chased into a restroom? By activists? Let me be clear here because I think the context of what happened here is very important. And Senator Sinema put out a statement this morning. So as she said, and I would reiterate from here, the protection of the freedom to protest, to speak out and to criticize is fundamental to our democracy. The president believes that. Maybe he shorthanded it, but he wanted to make that clear this morning. What happened this weekend was that her classroom, her students and the safe and intellectually stimulating environment she's worked to create during the years she's teaching at ASU was breached. That's inappropriate and unacceptable. And I think the context of what happened here is important despite the fact that of course we stand for, the president stands for, the fundamental right of people to protest, to object, to criticize as they often do outside of the gates of the White House. So does the White House condemn these protesters who chased her into the right? I just said it was inappropriate and unacceptable. I think that pretty much. Not to do that again. I think that's pretty clear that they shouldn't breach the classroom and make the students feel like their privacy, their intellectually stimulating classroom and their time as students in college is being broke. Okay, I can't take anymore. That was a weak response from Jen Psaki. Don't back down, never back down. Only double down when it comes to right-wingers. See, they're pretending as if it's Kirsten Sinema who's the victim. That's the narrative that the right-wing media sphere and right-wingers in general are trying to put out there, right? They're trying to make it seem as if Kirsten Sinema, she was victimized. She was falled into a bathroom. This is so terrible, except that's not the case. She wasn't victimized. She's the victimizer. She's victimizing people like her constituents who were forced to confront her because they had no other means of communicating with their senator who represents them, nobody else. You know, these right-wingers, they'll call that dreamer an illegal alien, which no human being is an alien. But they'll say, you know, she should be deported and anything she says is invalid because she's not a citizen. But yet, she pays taxes probably. I'm assuming she's a worker. She's been here since she was three years old. She pays taxes. She's more of an American than most billionaires are in the United States who dodge taxes. But yet, they get representation. The corporate donors who give thousands of dollars to Kirsten Sinema, she hears them out. I wonder why that is. So, I mean, long story short, Kirsten Sinema has made a bunch of new friends with the far right. So, she needs to be primaried and excommunicated from the Democratic Party and anything that they can do to punish her in Congress, they should do that. Meanwhile, her constituents need to continue to keep the pressure on her and confront her and heckle her every single day, everywhere she goes. So, in response to Kirsten Sinema getting confronted at ASU with protesters following her into the bathroom, I, of course, endorsed that protest. It is a legitimate form of protest because she's left her constituents with no other means of engaging with her. And I also stated in the video that I did talking about that that I really hope that it happens more everywhere Kirsten Sinema goes. She should be heckled. She should be confronted. And guess what? That's happening. So, on a plane, one of her constituents decided to ask her whether or not she would commit to passing reconciliation. And as you're going to see, she said nothing. Senator, I don't know if you remember me. I just want to know if you can commit, as my senator, if you can commit to passing a reconciliation that could provide a pathway to citizenship for immigrants. We have been waiting for this for too long. I need to know if you can commit to passing a budget reconciliation that would include immigration and citizenship for people to be protected like me and many others. Can you commit to that, Senator? I'm gonna watch it. I mean, I'm vulnerable right now to you. My back passed away. If you, but at the same time, I just want to see if I can get a commitment from you, Senator. This is my life and the life of millions in the line. I just need to hear from you to get a pathway to citizenship through the budget reconciliation to protect me and millions like me. Can I get a commitment from you? No answer. Refusing to engage at all. Just blank face, completely unmoved by the protestor, trying to get her to answer a simple question. And she doesn't even have to commit right then and there. She can say, listen, I understand your concerns. I'm working on something. We'll try to get it done. She doesn't say anything. She doesn't even attempt to placate her constituents as Joe Manchin even does. She just ignores them. But that wasn't all because off the plane, she was also confronted by protestors and they asked her again, will you commit to support and reconciliation? If not, what do you want to cut from the bill? Take a look. I'm planning on cutting from Joe Biden's built-up letter plan. Do you want to cut climate priorities? Is it elder care that you want to cut? Or is it child care? Senator, please. Are you asking for your help? Senator, we need you. What are the priorities? I'm going to come to you. I'm just trying to get an explanation for the American public now. Great pass. All I want to know is, what does this say? Well, I don't know what's working. Senator Cineva, I just want you to read me the news. Senator Cineva, my phone call is really hard to be on. So I'm gonna refiner, I'm just gonna get the newsbook. What are the things that you would like to cut? Senator, my phone call is hard to be on. Senator, we need you to read me the news. I'm gonna refiner. I just want you to read me the news. Senator Cineva, my phone call is really hard to be on. That is awesome to see and that really is the perfect question. What do you want to cut? She's not saying what she doesn't like about the $3.5 trillion build back better plan. She's just saying that she won't support it. So do you want to take out climate priorities? Do you want to take out childcare? What do you want to take out from it? But she refuses to answer and you can tell that she's irritated. She's not really showing it, but you can tell she is seething. But it didn't end there. Protesters followed her up the escalator as well and out the door of the airport. Watch. Senator Sinema, who would you cut out from build back better? Who would you leave behind? Senator Sinema, who would you leave behind? Senator Sinema, who would you leave behind? Who would you leave behind? The seniors? The immigrants? People without dental care? Who would you leave behind, Senator Sinema? We just want to have a conversation and you're just ignoring everybody. It's just what you think leadership is. Senator Manchin talks to people. Senator Sinema, all we want to do is have a conversation about who you would leave behind. Who would you leave behind? Who would you leave behind? Who would you leave behind? Who would you leave behind? Who would you leave behind? I love this so much. I love this so much. These activists truly should be commended. This is how you put pressure on senators. What do you want to leave out, Senator Sinema? Do you want to leave behind seniors, immigrants? Who do you want to leave behind? You're ignoring us. That person even pointed out that even Joe Manchin engages with constituents and everything that he says is disingenuous and he lies to them, but at least he engages at a minimum. That's the bare minimum that we should expect from public representatives, but she just she doesn't care at all. Now, there was a woman holding up a sign as she was going up the escalator. And if you're wondering what that said, it reads hot bisexual against Kirsten Sinema. And I love that so much. I love that so much. Anything that they can do to embarrass her, hackle her, put pressure on her over, I'm all for it. Because guess what? This is what is necessary when she refuses to engage. And as people for Bernie points out, she hasn't held a town hall in three years. So what does she expect if she's not talking to her constituents refusing to even negotiate with her colleagues in the Democratic Party because she is leaving D.C. to go meet with her donors for a private retreat? How does she expect them to reach her? They have to have some way to communicate with her. There has to be some line of communication. And since she's refusing to talk to them, this is what they're doing. They're desperate. This is what they have to resort to. This isn't just some sort of a game contrary to popular belief. This is people's lives. This is the future of the planet. This is the lives of so many immigrants in this country, so many people who just want a chance. And she's just, she's, she's callous. She's cold. She doesn't care. So guess what? If you don't like this Kyrsten Sinema, tough because I suspect that this is going to be her life from now on until she agrees to support the bill. Because if you hold so many people's lives in your hand, that is a tremendous amount of responsibility. And you should be expecting this. And the fact that you have refused to communicate with anyone, this is just going to keep happening. And I'm here for it. I love it. Keep it up, activists. Don't, don't back down. Just, just keep giving her hell wherever she is. Heckle her, make her life a living hell if she doesn't actually buckle because there's got to be a breaking point at some point, right? She's got to get tired of this at some point. So keep it up. This is phenomenal. So I've talked a lot about the protesters at ASU that followed Senator Kyrsten Sinema into a bathroom. But before we got that epic protest, we got the protest at Joe Manchin's yacht. So there were climate activist protesters who kayaked to his yacht and they confronted him about his refusal to support the Build Back Better Act. And I think that this is perfect. This is exactly what activists should be doing. And you're going to see that he actually did choose to engage with them, unlike Kyrsten Sinema. But he also tries to placate them and lie and they call him on that immediately. Take a look. There's a lot of poverty. What are you going to do for the poor in West Virginia? We're going to be working everything we can to create good opportunities. And we need to tax the rich. Well, I agree with that. I definitely agree. That's the one number thing we should be doing is fixing the tax goats. Everybody pays their fair share. We should be also negotiating for lower drug prices. We should be doing all these things. They say that. Holy, they're not accountable. I agree with you 1,000%. We're all on the same page, gang. We really are. Well, we have here. Let me just explain on that one. We will get to that eventually. But right now we can't even take care. I just want to go broke in 2026. Let us fix it. We're taxing the rich. I agree. We're going to make the rich and the famous pay. $6 trillion. How much do you think that we spend every year on non-discretionary, basically non-defense? Not enough. Really not enough. Let me just give you all this. Wait, I got one little bit of information for you. The Republicans are likely to take over the Senate. This is our one chance right now. They're not going to pass things like this for the people. They're not. This is our chance. I love this so much because these senators, they're also oligarchs. These are very, very wealthy people. These are multi-millionaires who chum it up with elites. They think that when they go to their yachts, there's not going to be any peasants around. It's a peasant-free area, but they actually invaded his safe space. They went into his bubble. That's really, really effective because that makes them uncomfortable, which is the point of protest. You go there and you make these elites feel uncomfortable. It's not like he's just some detached billionaire or millionaire. This is a U.S. senator. He's in a position of power and influence. What he does or doesn't do directly impacts the lives of millions of Americans, hundreds of millions of people. I don't care where they are. A yacht, the bathroom, protest them wherever they are because they hold all the cards right now. If they choose to not support the Build Back Better Act, how many people will go hungry, become even poorer? How many people will die if they don't get that Medicaid expansion? It's not what we wanted. I wanted Medicare for all, but it's better than nothing. It's a marginal thing to make a slight difference in people's lives. And if they can't even support that, they deserve to feel uncomfortable. They deserve to be heckled every single where a place that they go. Now, the good thing about Joe Manchin is, I mean, he at least talks with them. Kirsten Sinema, she was followed through an airport, and she just didn't even say a single word to them. She keeps saying, oh, well, I don't negotiate in public. Okay, well, your job is to serve the public. So I think that you owe it to them to explain your position. But one thing about Joe Manchin is, even if he is engaging, it's not a good faith conversation. He says it is, but it's not an actuality. He's trying to placate them. He's trying to tell them what they want to hear. Because unlike Kirsten Sinema, I actually do think that he wants to remain in D.C. for a while. Kirsten Sinema, she might literally want to be a one-term senator, so she can then go cash in and become a lobbyist. I think that's highly likely. So he wants to at least keep up the appearance that he cares, but we all know that he doesn't. Now, he said a lie, and they called him out on that like this. And I love that. He said that Medicare would go broke in 2026, and they said that's not true. They called him out immediately. We keep hearing this lie about Medicare, about social security, that it's becoming insolvent, and we have to make changes to it in order to save the program. That is bullshit. And whenever you see or hear a politician rather talk about how social security or one of our social safety net programs is going insolvent, call them on that lie. Because what they're basically saying is, I really want to open the door to changes, i.e. privatization. And that's basically what he's saying there. And we don't need more privatization. We need less privatization. Now, one person there, that last person said that Republicans are likely to take over the Senate. This is our one chance. This is our last chance. And that to me, I think that is something that can potentially persuade Joe Manchin. I think he thinks about that. And this is a really great point that Hassan Piker made. He said that Joe Manchin loves the attention. He loves being the swing vote. He loves being in power. So I actually don't think that he wants Democrats to lose power. He wants them to keep a really thin majority in the Senate so he can kind of be the power broker. You know, he's the one who can green light deals. He can kill them or save them unilaterally. But one person there made a great point that we spend 6 trillion over 10 years on the Pentagon budget. And he made some points about, oh, well, that's half of our discretionary budget. You want to know how much of our budget is not discretionary? The other half. I don't care what you're saying. The point that she's making is that we spend a lot of money on the military. That is our discretionary budget. Most of the time, most years, it's more than half of our discretionary budget, meaning the money that Congress can control what they do with it. Why are we spending more money on killing people as opposed to spending more money on helping people? It's ridiculous. And nothing that they say, really, I don't know that it's going to resonate with him. He doesn't at least listen to them. But I think it's going to fall on deaf ears. It really depends on what is in his best interest. If he thinks that this will help him maintain his position of power, he'll support it. But if not, I don't know. I mean, think about where this man makes his money. He's essentially a modern-day oil baron. As Mark Hertzgaard of The Nation explains, it turns out that the senator wielding this awesome power, America's climate decider-in-chief, one might call him, has a massive climate conflict of interest. Joe Manchin, investigative journalism has revealed, is a modern-day coal baron. Financial records detailed by reporter Alex Koch for the Center for Media and Democracy and published in The Guardian show that Manchin makes roughly half a million dollars a year in dividends for millions of dollars of coal company stock he owns. The stock he held in EnerSystems, Inc., a company Manchin started in 1988 and later gave to his son Joseph to run. So he knows that all of the investments that the Build Back Better Act makes in clean green renewable technology, that's going to hurt his bottom line. And he's a greedy oligarch. So the money that he's making, it's not enough. He wants more. But maybe he'll sacrifice it if, for whatever reason, he thinks this is going to be beneficial to his long-term political career. It's the same reason why he didn't support an increase of the minimum wage, because I believe he has stock or he's a shareholder in one of the West Virginia and La Quinta Inns. So if it were the case that those workers got a $15 an hour minimum wage, that would hurt his own bottom line. So this really is about him and nobody else. Although, side note, there was a weird substory that emerged out of this yacht confrontation and journalist Matthew Chapman, who's basically just a Democratic Party loyalist. He wrote this, which I think he believed was important, but it isn't. He says, people need to stop calling this a yacht. It's a houseboat. It is worth $220,000, which is pretty much exactly the median home price in the United States and considerably less than what most senators spend on their second DC residence. My house costs more than this one. Okay, I mean, it looks like a yacht to me, but I'm no expert. The point is that what he's on is very clearly a luxury item that most Americans can afford. It's called almost heaven. It's supposed to be a luxury thing. So regardless if it's a houseboat or a gigantic raft, it doesn't matter. The point is that it's a luxury item that he was at away from the rest of the peasants. He thought he was insulated and they broke his bubble. They invaded his safe space. So I don't get what Matthew's point was, but good job being a hack. I don't know if you want some sort of award for it, but shut the fuck up. Stop protecting the powerful people like Matthew Chapman and Axios, who keep writing these fluff pieces for Kirsten Cinema. It's just so bizarre, but that's kind of like a different point. Point is people have to keep doing this. They have to keep exerting pressure on U.S. lawmakers. I don't care where it is, bathrooms, yachts. Again, it doesn't matter to me. I'll reiterate that point because it's important. It doesn't matter where it happens. If they're at a restaurant, heckle them. If people like Joe Manchin and Kirsten Cinema are going to obstruct an agenda that would improve the lives of millions of Americans, they deserve the pressure that they're facing right now. And there's really nothing left to say about this. It's deserved. It's warranted. And most importantly, this is necessary. This needs to happen. Otherwise they're not going to listen. I'm not sure how many of you noticed, but on Monday, Facebook and its family of apps were down for hours, causing Mark Zuckerberg to lose $6 billion and also leading to the company's stocks tanking. Now, for some additional details, we go to The New York Times, who explains Facebook's apps, which include Facebook, Instagram, WhatsApp, Messenger, and Oculus, began displaying error messages around 11.40 a.m. Eastern Time. Users reported within minutes, Facebook had disappeared from the Internet. The outage lasted over five hours before some apps slowly flickered back to life that the company cautioned. The services would take time to stabilize. Technology outages are not uncommon, but to have so many apps go dark from the world's largest social media company at the same time was highly unusual. Facebook's last significant outage was in 2019, when a technical error affected its sites for 24 hours in a reminder that a snafu can cripple even the most powerful Internet companies. But it is now over, and when it came back, Facebook's CTO, Mike Schrofer blamed the outage on, quote, networking issues. But, I mean, if I'm being 100% transparent here, I really wish that Facebook never came back. If we could delete Facebook from existence, the world would literally be a better place, I think. And not just delete it from existence, but we need one of those flash pens from Men in Black so we can make all of humanity forget that it ever existed. That's how damaging to the world Facebook is. Not only is it a cesspool of misinformation, but on top of that, Facebook is profiting off of hate. And that's not just hyperbole, that's not speculation, that's confirmed by a whistleblower who explained in a 60-minutes interview how the platform's algorithm literally prioritizes hateful content above all else because that's what keeps people engaged and it keeps them on the platform. Now, that revelation isn't necessarily surprising. In fact, it's pretty obvious, but it runs counter to what the CEO of Facebook, Mark Zuckerberg, said. Everything that the whistleblower is alleging here, Mark Zuckerberg claimed that that's not actually the case. So take a look at this video of Mark Zuckerberg juxtaposed with the whistleblower's interview on 60 Minutes, courtesy of the recount, and it shows you that this man was lying to everyone about his platform and the way that it operates. Do you believe your product can be addictive? We certainly do not design the product in that way. Facebook has realized that if they change the algorithm to be safer, people will spend less time on the site. They'll click on less ads, they'll make less money. The research that we've seen is that using social apps to connect with other people can have positive mental health benefits and well-being benefits. Facebook's own research says that as these young women begin to consume this eating disorder content, they get more and more depressed and it actually makes them use the app more. The way we design our algorithms is to encourage meaningful social interactions. Its own research is showing that content that is hateful, that is divisive, that is polarizing gets engagement, our reaction. But election interference remains an ongoing threat, so we continue to improve as part of our ongoing commitment to supporting the civic process. They basically said, oh good, we made it through the election. We can get rid of civic integrity now. We strengthened our enforcement against malicious and conspiracy networks like QAnon to prevent them from using our platforms to organize violence or civil unrest. But after the election, Facebook was used by some to organize the January 6th insurrection. Now for some additional context, apparently the platform got worse as of 2018 when it changed its algorithm and from there, that's when they really began to prioritize hateful content because that's the thing that gets people coming back. And just for a moment before we go to what the whistleblower says here, think to yourself how these social media platforms keep you engaged if you're arguing with someone. If you see someone that says something racist, even if you yourself aren't racist, but if you confront someone who said something that's insensitive, you wait for that person to respond, you respond back, it's almost addictive in a sense, in some weird way. So those things, the algorithm picked up on and they knew that that's what keeps you on the platform. So that's why they prioritize hate, they prioritize misinformation, which is why we see so much anti-vax misinformation. They prioritize things that keep people coming back to the platform, even if it's detrimental to humanity, even if it's detrimental to public health, even if it makes society worse off. The whistleblower explains this. You have your phone. You might see only 100 pieces of content if you sit and scroll off for, you know, five minutes. But Facebook has thousands of options that could show you. The algorithm picks from those options based on the kind of content you've engaged with the most in the past. And one of the consequences of how Facebook is picking out that content today is it is optimizing for content that gets engagement or reaction. But its own research is showing that content that is hateful, that is divisive, that is polarizing, it's easier to inspire people to anger than it is to other emotions. Misinformation, angry content is enticing to people and keeps them on the platform. Yes. Facebook has realized that if they change the algorithm to be safer, people will spend less time on the site. They'll click on less ads. They'll make less money. Yeah. So Facebook profits off of making people more hateful, off of making people more misinformed. It's just truly a terrible platform. And again, I want to reiterate that I was disappointed to learn that Facebook came back. Now, you might think that I'm a hypocrite because I am on Facebook. We post two minutes reported videos to Facebook. And I've actually thought about leaving Facebook, but at the same time, I decided against it because with how much misinformation is on Facebook with how popular sites like The Daily Poster and Ben Shapiro is on Facebook, any additional voice that's trying to debunk these conspiracy theories about the vaccines, debunk right wing misinformation, I think it's important. I think that Facebook overall is a net negative for society, but so long as it remains a very popular platform, I do think it's important for leftists such as myself to occupy that space to try to combat it at least a little bit. Maybe somebody shares one of my videos about COVID-19 with their anti-vax uncles and it gets through to them. I don't think that the success rate is that high because again, the platform is accessible. But if it helps a little bit, then I think that it's worthwhile. But still ultimately, I think that the platform is horrible. That's not to say that no good has come out of it because there has been a lot of people that organized on Facebook. It's a way for people who have disabilities to communicate with others. So it's not all bad, but the way that they designed it specifically is to bring out the worst in people, to misinform people, and that's where the issue comes in. That's why Facebook needs to be broken up. If I had my way, it would be nationalized and these social media companies, they have to be regulated. They're basically unregulated and that's why they're doing things like this. Of course, a multi-billion dollar multinational corporation is going to prioritize profits over people. That's not surprising. We're seeing it with all types of industries as it relates to climate change. So this shouldn't be a shocker, but what it should do is catalyze action from lawmakers and they should force Facebook to change their algorithm or at a minimum be more transparent with their algorithm. I don't know what else to say about this, but Facebook is awful and if you have the option, you should definitely delete your Facebook account. But for those of us who are trying to produce content to counter the right-wing misinformation, I think at least for now it's important to remain on there, but I don't know how much longer I think it'll be worthwhile. Facebook is truly just awful. The International Consortium of Investigative Journalism published what they're calling some wallpapers on steroids. I'm of course referring to the Pandora Papers. Now this shows that elites hide their wealth. Not necessarily that shocking of a revelation, but still what they published here is truly substantial and I suspect that not a lot of mainstream news outlets are going to talk about this. So what is the Pandora Papers? Well for a summary, we go to Brett Wilkins of Common Dreams who explains what's being called the biggest ever leak of offshore data, a cache of nearly 12 million documents published Sunday laid bare the hidden wealth, secret dealings, and corruption of hundreds of world leaders, billionaires, public officials, celebrities, and others. The leaked documents reveal how some of the world's wealthiest people avert the financial consequences of their misdeeds by using offshore entities. Dozens of current and former world leaders feature prominently in the files including Russian President Vladimir Putin, Jordanian King Abdullah II, and former British Prime Minister Tony Blair. While most of the richest Americans do not appear in the files, the Washington Post reports that perhaps the most troubling revelations for the United States center on its expanding complicity in the offshore economy. Chuck Collins, author of The Wealth Hoarders, how billionaires pay millions to hide trillions, and co-editor of Inequality.org at the Institute for Policy Studies said in a statement that the US has become the weak link in stopping global crime and wealth hiding. States like South Dakota and Delaware have morphed their laws to attract billions, sometimes illicitly obtained from around the world, he said. We in the US should be embarrassed that we've become a magnet for kleptocratic funds. Collins added that the Pandora papers show it is time for US lawmakers to shut down the hidden wealth system that allows for such aggressive tax avoidance and the sequestering of wealth. Now, I want to show you this graphic which demonstrates how US trusts play a role. As you can see, South Dakota with 81, Florida with 37, Delaware with 35, Texas with 24, and Nevada with 14. They also explain how America's biggest law firm, Baker McKenzie, drives global wealth into tax havens and there's millions of documents here. And the Pandora papers is basically if you go to their website, I'll link to it down below. This is the ICIJ website. It's basically a bunch of different articles that explain some of the findings here. But the TLDR version is that rich people are tax cheats. Not necessarily the most surprising thing in the world. The Panama papers kind of already proved what we already knew. But this is just further confirmation. The sad part about this is I suspect nothing will come of this. We keep hearing about things like this and nothing happens. We've basically seen not just the race to the bottom in the United States, but the race to the bottom around the world. Oh, and by the way, Shakira was named in the Pandora papers as well. Another tax cheat, yeah. I'm not a fan of her, but I know a lot of people who are fans of her and that's going to hurt. So Shakira is canceled, folks. But I mean, look, in all seriousness, this is serious, but I kind of feel a sense of ambivalence. But that shouldn't be the case. We shouldn't be numb to this kind of corruption. And maybe I'm projecting, but when we see this, we should feel a general sense of outrage and frustration, but this is just the norm. And I think that everyone knows there's a problem. Most Americans, according to public opinion polls, see that there are issues here with global wealth inequality, but nothing has changed yet. And I feel like there's going to be one catalyst. There's going to be a moment where the dam bursts open and perhaps this is that moment. But I mean, I think that this will continue to happen and most people will live their lives and the wealthy will continue to do things like this, hoard their wealth. And that's really sad, but it is an inevitable consequence of capitalism. And when you're in a late stage capitalist society, this kind of thing is exactly what you'd expect. It's not some sort of inadvertent consequence of the system. This is the intended outcome of capitalism always. Capitalism always gets so big to where it overpowers governments and eats itself. And I mean, this kind of confirms that. But I don't know what to say. I'm not shocked by this at all. And I think that so many people see this and I think, yeah, that's what I expected, but nothing is going to change, so why should I care? And they may be right about that, but this is important. And as desensitized as we all are, we still should care about things like this as unsurprising as it is, especially to those of us who've been following the corruption of elites for years. So I hope that people actually read some of these details or some of these summaries because this really is unacceptable, regardless of how desensitized we are. It kind of seems as if Dave Rubin's grift is starting to fall apart a little bit. I don't think it's going to hurt him financially or in any way shape or form, but I think that he's kind of inadvertently revealing himself and part of this is his own problem, right? He had so much more room for his grift to grow what he still identified as a liberal, but he came out as a conservative and as a conservative, you have to say certain things. There's this expectation that you will toe the line, but if they think that you're a liberal or a classical liberal, you have more room to kind of reason out of difficult situations. So let me give you a couple of examples of that. He was on a television show and he was debating someone and she asked for his vaccination status. They were debating vaccines and vaccine mandates, I'm assuming, and watch the way he melts down like a triggered little snowflake. I'll tell you why he got so offended. Yes, children could transmit the disease, although they rarely do, but parents are all vaccinated if they're good, decent citizens. So I don't really understand the connection, actually. Are you a good, decent citizen or are you vaccinated? It's nobody's business whether I'm vaccinated. That's like me asking you the last time you got laid. I mean, it's just irrelevant. All right, so you know what's really relevant is that it's one thing if you have the right to choose for your... My medical history is not your business, nor yours is mine. That hit a nerve. That's a question. And I think we all know the reason for that. It's because Dave Rubin is vaccinated. Dave Rubin is vaccinated 100%. The second he was able to get the vaccine when he was eligible, he was first in line, guaranteed because he knows that the vaccines are safe and effective. But he doesn't want his audience to know that and that's why he's pushing this line. Oh, it's nobody's business whether I'm vaccinated. I mean, when's the last time you got laid? Is it though? Because I don't think that that's the same thing. That's a false equivalence and you sound really stupid making that point, Dave. We all know that you don't want to disclose your vaccination status for the same reason that Tucker Carlson doesn't want to disclose his vaccination status because that undermines your credibility and I use credibility very charitably. You undermine your credibility among the anti-vax community that you're pandering to. So if they know that you're vaccinated, then when you tell them that the vaccines are bad, they're going to think, well, wait, if you say that the vaccines are bad, why are you getting the vaccine yourself? Why did you get the vaccine? And the more smart people in his audience, there's not many of them, but the more smart ones might put two into together and think, wait, maybe this person is not walking the walk because what he's saying is bullshit. Maybe he's telling me what he thinks I want to hear and maybe the vaccine actually is good. Maybe I should get the vaccine because he got it. Does he think I'm stupid? Not many people are going to realize that. But still it makes you look like a fraud if you talk about how bad the vaccines are when you were vaccinated yourself. So that's why he doesn't want to reveal his vaccination status. It's not because it's a deeply personal thing to him. He doesn't care that much. He just doesn't want to give up the game, right? And this is why I say that he had a lot more room for his grift to grow had he remained a public liberal. I don't think that Dave Rubin really has an actual political ideology that he cares deeply about. He's just going to follow the money and wherever that leads him, whatever makes him the most dollars. But I think that if he pretended to be a liberal, he could then say, look, as a liberal, I got the vaccine, but I'm for people making their own medical decisions. I'm for medical freedom. He could use that bullshit line, but instead he's backed himself into a corner by coming out hard as a conservative, coming out hard against the vaccines, and he doesn't want to disclose that he's vaccinated because he looks like a fraud. So here he is. I mean, look, I am more than willing to disclose my vaccination status. I am fully vaccinated, probably so, and that doesn't impact my viewership at all, right? You know that I'm vaccinated. You know where I stand entirely. I got the vaccine because I know it's safe and effective and I want you to get the vaccine because I want you to protect yourself and those around you. I also support vaccine mandates because it's either we mandate vaccines or we have basically this permanent state of plague because anti-vaxxers who are misinformed by people like Dave Rubin, Tucker Carlson, Jimmy Dorr, they would keep us in a prolonged state of plague forever if that were possible because they know that anti-vaccine misinformation if you're mongering about the COVID-19 vaccines, all of that is very, very lucrative. You can monetize that on YouTube and Facebook, whatever platform they're using and, you know, you build up support and trust among your right-wing audience. So they love that. But listen, this is how you know that Dave Rubin is a total fraud because he's using one set of talking points to describe the vaccines when this whole freedom talk contradicts what he says. So he was on a libertarian podcast and they questioned him, why are you talking about personal liberty as it relates to vaccines if you're not in favor of legalizing drugs? I thought this was about bodily autonomy and individual liberty. Take a look, he has no idea how to respond. So you describe yourself as a classical liberal and as such you're against, I'm assuming, mandating masks and vaccines even if they can be effective in protecting public health because that can interfere with personal liberties of what to do with your body and life. Yet in your book you oppose the legalization of Schedule 1 drugs because addiction hurts communities. Why are you willing to sacrifice the civil liberties in one case for the public good but not in the other? So when I talk about the drug part, it's like, yeah, I'm for legalizing marijuana. I'm not for mandating that everyone smokes it. I'm for the most psychedelics. But then there's another class of drugs basically that are so highly addictive. We all know about, I'm sure you guys cover the fentanyl problem we have in the United States, the heroin problem. I was just in New York City, the amount of people that you see on the streets that are just laying there that are obviously on drugs. You go to San Francisco, I mean go to most progressive cities that you just unfortunately have to balance people's ability to make choices with some level of public good. Here's the thing, Vincent Dave, like the classical liberal position is that individual liberty is paramount and there's nothing more that has to do with your own liberties and freedoms is what to do with your own body. So if you are going to say that I can't ingest whatever it is in my body, I think the classical liberal position would be where does it stop? Can I not drink a big gulp because it may harm my body and they say sugar is addictive? Where does this actually stop? So my question to Dave is really about how he identifies as a classical liberal or even a libertarian when you're saying that there should be the strict guardrails and then again when we're talking about ingesting drugs, that's what I'm putting into my own body, but when we're talking about COVID, that is something that could affect the people around me. So that's a little bit different and so I'm trying to understand how it is you marry those things. That was embarrassing and whenever Dave Rubin is challenged even slightly, his entire worldview just collapses, which is why he doesn't usually bring on people who's going to challenge him and it's not just that he gets embarrassed when he brings on other people who at least are more intellectually curious and honest and know what they're talking about, he embarrasses himself on a daily basis. Here's another example of him just saying the most idiotic thing he could think of. Some people who don't even work in offices nor ever have worked in offices because they won't get jabbed. I got an email from a guy who's a hospital administrator who has been working at home in his basement for years before COVID. He has now been laid off. Give up a few more of your rights, guys. Why not, you know, give them access to your bank accounts and your phone records and all that stuff. It's for your own good. They're looking for somebody, a bad person, you know. So just give up some of your rights and don't worry. I just don't know how anyone could take Dave Rubin seriously. Even right-wingers. If I were a right-winger I would feel insulted. I would feel like this man was pandering to me. I would feel like he's trying to insult my intelligence. But most right-wingers, to be frank, are rubs and they just want to be told what they want to hear. They just want their worldview to be reinforced. That's why they tune into people like Dave Rubin and Tucker Carlson. So I'll leave that there. Dave Rubin's grift, it's kind of unraveling. It's kind of unraveling and it's kind of uncomfortable to watch because we know that he's vaccinated. We know that deep down if you really could hook him up to a lie detector test or give him a truth serum, he would say yes, the vaccines are safe and effective because that's what facts dictate. I mean, that's objectively objectively true. But he's not going to tell his right-wing audience that because then he looks like a fraud. And I love this. Whenever there's an opportunity to expose or embarrass Dave Rubin somebody should take that opportunity because this man spreads misinformation. He monetizes hate and the spread of bigotry and misinformation and overall he doesn't believe a single word that's coming out of his mouth. He's making the world or making the country rather a worse place and he's doing this because it's profitable. What a piece of shit. I don't know how he sleeps with himself at night, but it's probably on a gigantic bed of money and it's really gross. I mean, there are some things that are more important in life than money. One of them is living with yourself being honest with yourself and with your audience but that's not what he prioritizes. So that's why things like this happen where he looks silly because he doesn't believe in anything. He just is a fucking shameless grifter. Lately we've been talking more about more unorthodox forms of protest following senators into bathrooms showing up to their yachts on kayaks to confront them and I think that's all really important if these people in power refuse to meet with their constituents if they're actually doing things that hurt people but not all protests is made equal. Some protests are actually bad and quite frankly they're stupid. So there have been protests in New York City over the vaccine mandates and the vaccine mandates for teachers went into effect officially this week and people are very angry about this. So they were marching in the streets and approximately 8,000 teachers or people with the Department of Education of New York City are going to lose their jobs as a result of this. Now that sounds like a large number but it's actually a minority of the total people working for the education system in New York but there was a large protest they're marching through the streets of NYC and at Union Square there is a COVID testing tent. Now people who were supposedly against vaccine mandates decided to target the COVID testing tent. You think that this wouldn't be relevant to what they're protesting about because if you're against mandates in theory you should be in favor of testing right because testing is what many people can do in lieu of getting vaccinated if they refuse to take the vaccine but that's not what these people did they chose to target this COVID testing tent. It's a mobile tent that is popped up to help people to help slow the spread and they trashed it. Take a look. It's really bizarre to me because these people are supposedly against the vaccine mandates specifically but yet they're booing a COVID testing tent and they're chanting shame on you but wait is this about vaccine mandates or COVID testing because you claim that you're protesting vaccine mandates but yet you seem to be pretty offended by a mobile COVID testing tent and shout out by the way to the guy who was doing the running man that nurse is truly incredible that is a Chad move right there there's really no other way to respond to these people these people are freaks these people are genuinely misinformed and this isn't an image of that protest my knowledge it's from a different event but look at how misinformed they are NYS freedom to fascism so they believe that city was in a state of freedom until the vaccine mandates took effect and then all of a sudden boom fascism that's the way it works apparently except vaccine mandates have always existed they've always existed they just don't like the COVID vaccine and maybe many of them are anti-vax period they don't like any vaccines either way this isn't some new phenomenon so these people don't know what they're talking about and even the thing that they were ostensibly protesting vaccine mandates well they chose to target a COVID testing tent which has nothing to do with mandates if anything that COVID testing tent helps them in many instances not necessarily here because there's no test out option when it comes to the vaccine mandates pertaining to New York teachers but still getting tested is the way that you avoid the vaccine if you're an anti-vaxer but yet they trashed the tent I mean this is why it's not about the vaccines it's not about the vaccine mandates this is about them believing that the government has no responsibility or authority to take any measures to try to mitigate the spread of the virus they're just COVID deniers period and they can hide behind medical freedom they can hide behind what they believe is a violation of the Nuremberg codes which it's not they can hide behind their aversion to vaccine mandates and freedom but these people are just COVID deniers at this point and they are functionally fighting on the side of the virus otherwise why else would you attack a COVID tent you just want the virus to spread you want less people to get tested and you want more people to be exposed and the reason why so many people are against vaccine mandates is because guess what they work so as AP reports a COVID-19 vaccination requirement for teachers and other schools affected New York City sprawling public school system Monday in a key test of the employee vaccination mandates now being rolled out across the country Mayor Bill de Blasio said 95% of the city's roughly 148,000 public school staffers had received at least one vaccine dose as of Monday morning including 96% of teachers and 99% of principals some 43,000 doses have been administered since the mandate was announced August 23rd. Bill de Blasio said vaccination rates rose in the city school job category after the mandate was announced District 37 of the American Federation of State County and Municipal Employees which represents some 20,000 city Department of Education employees said 93% of those workers had provided proof of at least one COVID-19 vaccine dose as of Sunday up from 68% at the beginning of September in other words vaccine mandates don't just work they work really damn well they're very very effective and this isn't the first time that Americans have rebelled against some sort of a mandate in the name of freedom we were having a really good conversation about this on Thursday on my Patreon chat where before the last thing before seat belts of course was public smoking right people were so up in arms when they couldn't smoke indoors anymore then there was segregation functionally there was smoking sections and non-smoking sections and they were angered about that because they felt as if they were inferior to their peers because they had to be quarantined in some smoking section but eventually smoking was just banned in all indoor spaces and we still have freedom does anyone deny that we have freedom in America because you can't smoke indoors no it was a big deal and then people moved on the same thing with seat belts there were literally people who claimed that they wouldn't drive through states with seat belt laws because they would not condone that violation of their freedom do you see anyone protesting seat belt laws now I mean when it comes to the original vaccine mandates that are required for your children to be enrolled in public schools that was controversial not really a thing anymore so this is just another chapter in the long history of Americans being dumb fucks and using their entitlement to not do what is in the interest of public health but these people are the fringes they are the minority and history will view them as such history will look down upon them polls show that there is broad support for vaccine mandates so don't let these fringe lunatics trick you into thinking this is some new authoritarian thing or that it's unprecedented for our country George fucking Washington supported vaccine mandates and I don't think that these flag humping fuckwads would say that George Washington founder of the country is against freedom would they as they chant 1776 this is not a new thing it's not a new thing vaccine mandates are good and they're good because they're effective and one of the main ways we're gonna get out of this pandemic is by vaccinating as many people as possible not just in the united states but around the world and it's especially grotesque to know how petulant Americans are being when you consider there are so many people billions of people in other countries who are begging for a vaccine and yet Americans are taking that for granted this life-saving medical miracle for lack of a better word they're protesting it and the reason why they're so hostile towards that New York vaccine mandate is because it is more strict than other vaccine mandates it still provides medical and religious exemptions medical exemptions are a necessity of course but religious exemptions that's that shouldn't be a thing that shouldn't be a thing but one reason why they're mad is because this doesn't allow you to test out so unlike other mandates like the one that Joe Biden instituted and is using doing through OSHA you can test out you can get weekly tests but still that isn't sufficient and that's not a good way to contain the spread of the virus because in that seven day period you can get exposed to COVID contracted and spread it to other people so really the surefire way to contain the virus is to get vaccinated and when you consider that a University of Oxford study just found that when it comes to the Pfizer and AstraZeneca vaccines they actually reduce transmission of COVID-19 including of the Delta variant albeit to a lesser extent vaccinations isn't just about protecting yourself it's about protecting others it's a public health crisis so vaccine mandates are good and those people there are absolutely petulant imbeciles they're morons and history will remember them as just that alright so I am well aware of the fact that whenever we talk about COVID-19 on this channel it's almost always negative and there's a lot of bad news it's a public health crisis a global pandemic of course there's not going to be that many rosy stories having said that though this time in this video we're going to break the cycle because we actually have some genuinely encouraging news so first of all COVID-19 cases in the United States are in fact down and they're down substantially so we've seen a 24% decline in new cases over the last two weeks which signals an end to the Delta variant surge which is great news now second of all we have multiple studies now confirming just how effective the COVID-19 vaccines are and they are very very effective so in early July researchers at Yale University and the Commonwealth Fund estimated that the COVID-19 vaccines have saved 279,000 lives because of these vaccines incredible and a report from the Department of Health and Human Services found that nearly 40,000 elderly lives were spared between January and May because of the COVID-19 vaccines and they also prevented hundreds of thousands of new infections now as Kenny Stensl of Common Dreams explains under the study on the relationship between county-level inoculation rates and COVID-19 outcomes among Medicare beneficiaries which was conducted by researchers at the US Department of Health and Human Services vaccines helped ward off 265,000 infections 107,000 hospitalizations and 39,000 deaths during the first five months of 2021 that is absolutely incredible hundreds of thousands of lives saved because of the COVID-19 vaccines and 40,000 elderly lives saved during January and May that is truly remarkable the vaccines work and they're not just beneficial for you as an individual but they're great for society as well in fact they're really good for society because new research by British researchers at the University of Oxford found that they also reduce transmission if you've been fully vaccinated you are less likely to spread COVID-19 to your peers now Dr. Akshai Sahel gives us the breakdown about this new data in an NBC news article and explains people who are vaccinated against COVID-19 are less likely to spread the virus even if they become infected a new study finds adding to a growing body of evidence that vaccines can reduce transmission of the Delta variant British scientists at the University of Oxford examined national records of 150,000 contacts that were traced from roughly 50,000 to 60,000 in initial cases the samples included people who were fully or partially vaccinated with either the Pfizer, Biontech or AstraZeneca vaccines as well as people who were unvaccinated the researchers then looked at how the vaccines affected the spread of the virus if a person had a breakthrough infection with either the Alpha variant or the highly contagious Delta variant both vaccines produced transmission although they were more effective against the Alpha variant compared to the Delta variant they were 5% less likely to test positive if the person from whom the exposure occurred was fully vaccinated with two doses of the Pfizer vaccine with AstraZeneca a given contact was 36% less likely to test positive if the person from whom the exposure occurred was fully vaccinated the risk of transmission from a breakthrough infection was much higher if someone had received just one dose of either vaccine so this is really, really encouraging it's great to hear it's another reason to take the vaccine if you don't care about yourself then you should take the vaccine if you care about other people now this study has not been peer-reviewed as of yet but researchers are confident that this is actually a very high quality study in fact Dr. Aaron Richmond of the University of Pennsylvania says this about the study it's the highest quality study we have so far on the question of infectiousness of vaccinated people that are infected with Delta so this is really, really encouraging news the vaccines are saving hundreds of thousands of lives and we're really privileged to have them to have them not just be free but widely available especially considering there are people in developing countries that still haven't even been able to get their first dose so the fact that we have this here this truly speaks to the innovations and the amazingness of modern medicine thanks to government funding as well but it's important so the reason why I'm talking about this is because if you're one of the few people who watch the show that aren't vaccinated and you come here just to troll for whatever reason I mean the data speaks for itself this is actual science unlike the memes that you're sharing on Facebook by your racist aunts and uncles this is data, this is evidence so at this point we know with all of the data that we have available anyone who's discouraging you from taking the vaccines any other YouTuber whose video catalog looks like this they are not to be taken seriously in fact with the evidence that we have confirming how effective these vaccines are this kind of misinformation at this point is bound to get someone killed but I mean when you have a conspiratorial right wing audience who appease you have to make some sacrifices and if you gamble with people's lives some people are willing to pay that price but for me, no I'm not willing to pay that price I want you to protect yourself and others I want you to get vaccinated I don't care who you are if you're a right winger if you're apolitical, if you hate me if you hate the humanist report I don't believe you should die when we have a cure we have a vaccine that isn't just highly effective as this research shows it's incredibly safe millions of people in this country have taken it billions of people around the globe have taken it it's fine, I took it I'm fine, I haven't spontaneously combusted but you know, some people have an agenda like Jimmy Dorr, some people are incredibly irresponsible with their platform and they don't care if people die in fact, I don't know what Jimmy Dorr believes but he might believe that he's the one who has the truth but he doesn't these studies show that the vaccines are incredibly effective and anyone who's telling you to not get them isn't looking out for your best interests they don't care about you they care about views and clicks but this is a public health crisis and for those of you who are tired of all this talk of lockdowns and masks, the quicker we all get the COVID-19 vaccine the faster we all go back to normal which I desperately want because of the pandemic and if you're as tired of this nonsense as I am get the fucking vaccine so we're not in this perpetual state of plague forever now thankfully, again, cases are down so I don't want to turn this into a negative video so I apologize for digressing but we've got to get the vaccine it's available, it's safe and the best part about it is it fucking works really well so I think that most of my longtime viewers know that when it comes to pop culture topics, I'm pretty illiterate in fact, I would argue that I'm totally clueless most of the time however, when it comes to this particular celebrity that we're going to be talking about today I actually do have some insight because I used to consider myself surprisingly a pretty big fan of Russell Brand I love his movies for getting Sarah Marshall get him to the Greek is probably one of my favorite movies ever and I actually used to watch his YouTube videos all the time I don't necessarily agree with everything that he talked about, some of his views were more unorthodox he would talk about spirituality which doesn't resonate with me but he was solidly left leaning at least when I watched him but eventually I stopped watching his YouTube channel not necessarily for any particular reason just because I kind of lost interest but now I've learned that he may have taken a very, very bad turn to the right at least according to this article published in The Daily Beast titled Comedian Russell Brand has become a powerful voice for anti-vaxxers and the subtitle reads the comedian seems to have found a loyal fan base and conservatives and anti-vaxxers who have flocked to his YouTube and Facebook accounts for his rambling vaccine skeptic views so after not watching his content for years I will admit it's a little bit heartbreaking to see him take this turn and I have read through this article already obviously in preparation for this video and I do have some disagreements with the concerns raised by the author here having said that though when you actually look at his channel there's a lot left to be desired to say the least if I being incredibly charitable and we'll look at his YouTube channel but first I want to get to the arguments presented by the author in this article so she writes the forgetting Sarah Marshall actor has always presented himself as a contrarian a free thinker who isn't afraid to challenge established views or spout off at the government both UK and US but recently brand who has always seemed to skew left in his political beliefs has found a loyal fan base in right wing conservatives and anti-vaxxers who have flocked to his YouTube and Facebook accounts hailing the 46 year old as a so called voice of reason he's played heavy to this fan base interviewing right wing trolls Ben Shapiro and Candice Owens although he does disagree with them on certain points in June he asked his watchers if he should accept Fox News's invitation to appear on the network most agreed he should I would suggest Tucker he's very fair one fan commented the titles of his videos are often designed to delight or infuriate depending on the viewers political stance leaning heavily on incredulous clickbait titles such as thought Biden couldn't sink any lower think again did liberals use feminism to justify Afghanistan clusterfuck shocking Wuhan evidence did Fauci lie and so Trump lied about Clinton and Russia but for the past few weeks brand has taken issue with the vaccine casting doubt on the trustworthiness of the FDA asking if vaccine mandates aren't assault on people's bodily freedoms calling the vaccine a gold rush and pondering whether people could trust Bill Gates most recently brand declared that there was a vaccine apartheid going after CNN anchor Don Lemon after he called out people who refused to get vaccinated while these videos don't necessarily flop and only recently found his core viewership when he began discussing COVID-19 and political hot topics after Donald Trump left office so I'll explain to you some of the objections that I take with the author's argument here but just that last paragraph it really says a lot it speaks to a phenomenon known as audience capture which is when you have this YouTube channel you've had it for a really long time and all of a sudden you post a video that gets lots and lots of views it just ends up so then you see the positive feedback you do it again and the same result happens so you enter this sort of feedback loop where you give your audience something that they want and in return they reward you with views clicks and engagement which is everything on YouTube the issue with audience capture and the issue with this feedback loop in general is that in the long term ultimately cultivate this audience makes you to give them a particular thing and the more you do it the more difficult it is to break out of that cycle and that's an issue having said that though I don't agree with all of the points made by the author Bill Gates is a trash person who's untrustworthy I think that you can be pro-vaccine and also hate Bill Gates and think that he's a scumbag especially if you are pro-vaccine because he doesn't want to release the patents for the COVID-19 so developing countries can manufacture their own versions generic versions of the COVID-19 vaccines so I don't take issue with that the clickbait titles I mean this is something that we're all guilty of on YouTube it's just part of the game I don't blame him for that a lot of the topics I don't really find interesting but it's general anti-establishment type of topics that he talks about on top of that when it comes to him platforming people like Candace Owens and Ben Shapiro I don't really care if he is in fact challenging them which the author does say that he does now some of the portions of this article that I actually take issue with and disagree with is how they pick out certain comments and they essentially attribute these bad comments to Russell Brand now I will say that you can kind of get a sense of what the creator talks about pretty frequently by gauging the audience and how they talk about things so it can be useful but the couple of anecdotes here it's not sufficient to lead me to believe that he is as bad as the author is implying at least just by reading this but there's a big but here if you look at his YouTube channel it does point to a really really bad trend there's a lot of things in here that give me Dave Rubin vibes to say the least now this is a sample of videos that he posted from the last month and some of these titles were actually named in the article but I mean just right off the bat you can see how clearly all of his videos overall are skewed towards the right just based on the titles alone that doesn't mean that all of his videos are bad but just overall I mean what is the message that you think he's sending who do you think he's appealing to based on this superficial glance so far at his video titles so I mean look at this one Joe Rogan and Ivermectin should COVID be politicized well no it shouldn't be politicized obviously but this title suggests that Joe Rogan isn't the one who's politicizing the pandemic by making his refusal to get vaccinated about freedom and by opting for alternative treatments that haven't been proven to actually be successful at treating COVID-19 like Ivermectin so who's the one that's politicizing it I mean that's left up to interpretation but if you look at all of his videos and some I mean I think you kind of get a sense let's look at some of these titles here is the vaccine an assault on your bodily autonomy question mark no can we really trust vaccine fact checkers COVID and health why can't we talk about the science this is why you can't trust big pharma and you see the FTA logo right there implying that maybe the emergency authorization sufficient enough for us to trust it because you see some sort of a pay-to-play thing going on on the you know that thumbnail so without even clicking a single video just by browsing his catalog you can easily deduce that he's appealing to one particular crowd of people anti-vaxxers by looking at all of these titles if you step back in some you kind of put them together like pieces to the puzzle when you see the complete puzzle there's this tacit implication that maybe the vaccines are bad if the FTA is lying to me and COVID-19 is being politicized and Fauci is lying maybe the vaccines are bad now he doesn't explicitly say that so he does give himself plausible deniability having said that though when you actually watch the videos which I have a couple that we're going to take a look at here he's not doing himself any justice here so take a look at exhibit A this is the video titled our vaccine mandates and assault on your bodily freedom vaccines are now being mandated for businesses with more than a hundred employees this is going to affect 80 million American people is this an intrusion on your rights do you trust your government to have that amount of authority are these necessary measures or is this situation being mobilized for political ends now as ever when talking about this subject it's necessary for me to express my neutrality I am Switzerland when it comes to this subject no view at all I am merely a floating series of molecules spores in space that through the spike protein got attached to something now I'm completely neutral let's see what this New York Times journalist Robbie Sove had to say in December 2020 the prospect of imminent mass vaccination against COVID-19 was becoming a reality and Biden said he would not force anyone to get the jab no I don't think it should be mandatory told reporters I wouldn't demand it be mandatory so Biden however you see Biden and increasingly post Afghan war withdrawal situation he is receiving a little more criticism even from his traditional supporters is changing we're seeing that ordinary process campaign promises what takes place in action you know what my position is this is an area where I can declare what I feel I'm neither left nor right because I don't believe in centralized bipartisan democracy so I'm not a socialist or a Marxist I agree with kindness compassion sharing service supporting one another and I can talk about the administrative underwriting of those emotions because all governmental systems are ultimately leaning into an emotion somewhere along the line they have to because I thought you know what is humanitarianism why protect human beings at all so just by watching the short clip you kind of get a sense of what he's doing here he's not explicitly saying that vaccine mandates are an assault on your freedom he's not saying that vaccines are bad but he kind of gets you to think about these things he gets you to a certain conclusion by using innuendo and priming and I think it's really slimy especially because you can see what he was doing there he was presenting himself as an enlightened centrist I'm not left I'm not right I'm neutral except no you're not you can try to pretend to be neutral but when we look at your video catalog and in particular your titles you're very clearly creating this content for one particular group of people and when you title a video vaccine mandates an assault on your bodily freedom and the entire setup is that Biden went back on his promise I mean even if you don't explicitly say that vaccine mandates are indeed an assault who is this supposed to appeal to and the person who you're obviously appealing to what do you think their conclusion is going to be when you present them with this question I think it's pretty obvious what he's doing now let's go to another video I present you with exhibit B the left versus right culture war conflagration continues to increase in temperature and many people are asking are we on the brink of civil war well Tim Poole when I spoke to him on my podcast under the skin available from Luminary you can get it on Apple link in the description says we're already in a war the war has begun it's just being practised on the level of psyche we're in the middle of a psychological war being subtly fought through media and sometimes not so subtly fought an invasion of the mind policeman of the brain Tim Poole is a great and influential orator have a look at this clip from under the skin let me know what you think in the comments below stay to the very end because some interesting points are made actually there's a story right now a journalist was attacked by anti-fascists and I believe it was in Portland there's a video of it you can actually watch the video of them calling her a slut shoving her to the ground spraying her with paint and and and macing her and right now if you go on Twitter all of left Twitter says it was actually the proud boys they're they're so tribalist on on on their worldview they will not accept fault for their own side and obviously I think the right has its faults I think the proud boys who show up to fight are causing you know equal trouble to a certain degree and people have just they have their sides they want to fight they're they're not interested in what is true they're interested in what they believe and they're interested in confirmation bias I think when independent voters start swinging away from Biden which they are and they might vote for Republicans which I don't necessarily think solves any of the problems you'll end up with a massive reaction on a scale much worse than we saw in 2020 with the riots because people are entrenched you know they don't want to back down from what they believe to be true or their worldview and I think just one final thought on this a simple way to explain the difference I do not think you will ever see a large movement of Trump supporters embracing critical race applied principles critical race praxis you will see that you know the left will obviously be very much in favor of their vision of equity and equal outcomes and racial quotas the right won't do that and so long as you have two governments fighting over control of one centralized system where they want to implement their moral framework I think it ultimately ends up with some kind of implosion so ask yourself who is this for is this for left wingers you have Tim Pohl here attacking the left saying that they're as bad as proud boys and that they're tribalistic and they're very biased and the right has their problems too but I mean the left let me tell you about the left with their critical race theory peddling non-sense racial quotas who is this for come on this isn't for left wingers this is for right wingers right wingers who are tuning in because now they realize that Russell Brand is going to tell them exactly here he's gonna reinforce their world views and maybe he doesn't reinforce their world views explicitly but he gives them enough presents them with enough information to where they can make their own decision even though they've kind of been led to that particular place now one last clip that I want to show you this is from the Nicki Minaj covid vaccine testicle discourse that I thankfully missed when it was taking place take a look is there to have an opinion on a controversial subject and is now getting the ire of the government and commentators everywhere should public figures and celebrities and that be able to say stuff or is it irresponsible and should it be stamped out or does it depend if they're parroting your perspective or not let's work it out right now and became impotent after getting the covid jab also like this news is framing it as a series of anti-vax tweets ie it belongs to a genre which I think is a little unfair because some of the most personal and particular information I've ever read in text form I should clarify at this point that I have no opinion on any medical crisis or pandemic treatment of what you should do as an individual or any opinions about anything see me as sort of like a glass sphere floating through space the information just goes through so just pray on it and make sure you're comfortable with your decision and not bullied now that suggests that Nicki Minaj's general view is that it should be an individual choice made by each of us individually cool Nicki Minaj I guess it's like Nicki Minaj is being utilized by any side on this argument people that are circumspect, hesitant cynical about the vax concerned about the reporting of anomalies will think ah Nicki Minaj freedom fighter people that are like no just get vaccinated this is an unprecedented crisis Nicki Minaj she stepped out of line if a celebrity says something that's a bit mad they're a celebrity and if you agree with them cool you're into them and you like them if you disagree with them well you know they're a celebrity everyone gets all serious oh no but with your platform with your platform you should be saying what I would say if I were your platform that's not how reality works people are all different no see that right there is what I take issue with using your platform responsibly doesn't mean that you can't share your own opinions even if they're spicy but using your platform responsibly means that you very clearly differentiate between what are facts and opinion if I say it's my opinion and people know it's my opinion no harm no foul but what Nicki Minaj did there is she didn't just dare to share her bold opinion she presented an anecdote and made it seem as if this is some widespread phenomenon she implied that there's a cause and effect relationship between the vaccines and impotency that's not her just sharing her opinion that's her sharing incorrect facts or what people will perceive to be facts about the COVID-19 vaccines that may persuade people to not get the vaccines themselves and what we know so far based on facts is that the vaccines have saved hundreds of thousands of lives so by her saying that having one of her impressionable fans view that they might think wow I don't want my testicles to swell up I guess I should probably avoid getting the vaccine that's dangerous and again he presented himself as a neutral arbiter of information here but when you look at his channel he's obviously deliberately trying to appeal to a very specific group of people so I find it especially disingenuous and slimy if you're going to clearly pander to anti-vaxxers that's what he's doing come on but yet still claim oh well I'm neutral no you're not you're pretty clearly taking a position you don't have to take a position explicitly to take a position you can take a position implicitly you can say things without saying them directly and that's what he's doing here it's pretty obvious so I've seen enough this is not good Russell Brand I mean I'm not going to say that he's as bad as Tucker Carlson or even Jimmy Dore for that matter and I don't agree with all the points of contention in the article but I mean he's undeniably a powerful voice for anti-vaxxers given how big his platform is at this point and how famous he is and even if it could be a lot worse than I was expecting after having read that article it's still not helping us during a public health crisis this isn't helpful you're pandering to anti-vaxxers he knows it he could be in denial but this is the result of audience capture and it's bad overall you're not helping us get the virus under control by implicitly discouraging people to take the vaccine and during a public health crisis I don't appreciate that and I find it especially gross when you very clearly present a particular skewed image to people and a narrative to people but yet you claim that you're just some neutral arbiter who's sitting in the middle you're not taking a stand you're not left you're totally above the frame no you're not you're now functionally in the camp of right-wingers at least on this issue and it's not a good look when it comes to John Hickenlooper there's two things that everyone should know the first is that he watched porn with his mom I'm not kidding about this so I took my mother to see deep throat told you and the second thing you should know there's some reason conspicuously concerned with the profits of Facebook so during the Facebook whistleblower's testimony before the senate commerce committee he inquired about Facebook's profits and at first this isn't necessarily too weird but I'll show you his question followed by her answer obviously Facebook can manipulate its algorithms to attract users and I guess what do you feel in your humble opinion that you know simply maximizing profits no matter the societal impact that is justified and I think the question then would be that's the short question which I think I know the answer what impact to Facebook's bottom line would it have if the algorithm was changed to promote safety for change to to save the lives of young women rather than putting them at risk Facebook today has a profit it makes approximately 40 billion dollars a year in profit a lot of the changes that I'm talking about are not going to make Facebook an unprofitable company it just won't be a ludicrously profitable company like it is today engagement based ranking is one of those amplification problems that leads young women from innocuous topics like healthy recipes to anorexia content if it were removed people would consume less content on Facebook but Facebook would still be profitable and so I encourage oversight and public scrutiny into how these algorithms work and the consequences of them okay so in short yes Facebook would indeed lose profits if they changed the algorithm now this isn't the most bizarre question for a lawmaker to ask knowing that these private companies have a fiduciary responsibility to increase shareholder value of course they're not going to willingly do something that hurts their bottom line so you need to know whether or not this is the case so you can figure out the right course of action to take and in this instance of course you should do regulations because knowing that Facebook is a greedy company with one goal to make money they're not going to willingly change something that makes them so much money so that means you have to force them to make this change via regulation so at that point in time you get your answer of course you move on to the next topic except John Hickenlooper stays on the topic of Facebook's bottom line a little bit longer with another question I'm a former small business owner I started in 2008 and really it was always we worked very hard to look again we weren't doing investigations but we were very sensitive to whether someone had had too much to drink whether we had a frequent customer who was frequently putting himself at risk and others obviously I think the Facebook business model puts well it poses risk to youth and to teens compared to cigarette companies which I thought was rightfully so I guess the question is is this level of risk appropriate or is there a level of risk that would be appropriate okay so that's kind of a weird question this is the former Facebook product manager not an expert in sociology John so I guess I just don't really follow what your point is are you implying that overall it's worse for society if Facebook loses their profits I what are you getting at right and she made a pretty solid point about the fact that you know it might hurt them in the short term but in the long term if they change this algorithm and they don't willingly promote hate for purposes of profit it could help them to revenue because if less people are leaving the platform because it's so toxic maybe that helps them in the long term so you think alright we've got two questions about Facebook's profitability it's time to either yield back your time or move on well no he brings up profits again I also thought that the the question of how do we assess the impact to their bottom line we had a representative Facebook in here recently who talked about that 8 out of 10 Facebook users feel their life is better and that their job is to get to 10 out of 10 maybe this is the 20% that they're missing I don't know how large that the demographic is of people that are caught back up into this circuitous circuitous sense of really taking them down into the wrong direction how many people that is in the idea okay this is strange you no longer sound like a politician who's inquiring about a company's policy you sound like a businessman who's weighing the pros and cons about the short and long term profits of a company it's almost like he has stock in the company that's what it sounds like to me except that's exactly the case he's asking these questions he's so concerned about Facebook's profits because he literally has stock in the company as Donald Shove sludge reports while inquiring on Facebook's bottom line Hickenlooper is invested in the company the senator's Facebook shares are worth as much as $500,000 so he was presumably concerned about Facebook's profits because it also impacts his wallet as well this is an obvious obvious conflict of interest and lawmakers shouldn't be allowed to have stocks why are they allowed to own stocks in companies that they're supposed to be regulating doesn't this seem kind of fucked up doesn't this seem like a system that is designed to fail and skew towards the business class of the United States that's exactly the case and it gets worse than that because it's not just that he's overly curious about Facebook's profits it also influenced him as a lawmaker it influences what he chooses so Shah adds the senator is not a cosponsor of the major democratic antitrust bill the competition and antitrust law enforcement reform act introduced in February by senator Amy Klobuchar the only bill Hickenlooper is cosponsoring in the science technology communications policy area according to congress.gov is a bill from republican senator Roger Wicker that according to a summary from senator Hickenlooper and Wicker would require the national telecommunications and information administration establish a testbed to develop and demonstrate innovative supply chain technologies and applications and establish a grant program to promote the participation of US companies in international standard setting bodies. The bill is intended to help US companies develop new products to compete with Chinese competitors Hickenlooper was worth at least $7.8 million on stock in several other tech companies including Microsoft automatic data processing alphabet, Amazon, Apple Intel and Nvidia so there you have it that's why he's so concerned with Facebook's profits that's why presumably he's not signing on to legislation that would hurt Facebook because it would hurt their bottom line so this is why these sorts of conflicts of interest shouldn't exist this is why lawmakers shouldn't be allowed to own stocks in companies that they're supposed to be regulating but it's sort of a difficult situation to get out of because how do you convince lawmakers who all own stocks in different companies and industries to pass legislation that bans them from owning stocks in industries I mean it's like them cutting off their own noses to appease everyone else and they're not going to do that they're not going to do something that would impact them and their bottom line and John Hickenlooper is a multi-millionaire he doesn't need to be concerned with Facebook bringing in additional profits but this is the game this is the way that it's played and it's sickening but it's not surprising so by now I'm sure that most of my audience is kind of tired of these Caitlyn Jenner gubernatorial run stories especially considering that she barely got one percent of the vote but I want to talk about this story because it's just one of those stories that I enjoy so much for no particular reason maybe it's a shout in Freudia maybe it's just that I like seeing dumb people get proven wrong when things are pretty obvious either way she basically explains that she had a lot of meetings with Republican politicians and many of them did not want to be seen publicly with her they were embarrassed of her I wonder why why would Republicans who are transphobic not want to meet with somebody who's transgender why even if she's a Republican perhaps it's because they're bigots but either way what she says is it's fascinating to me to say the least so LGBTQ nation reports Caitlyn Jenner said that during her failed California gubernatorial campaign some Republican Party leaders and elected GOP officials refused to be seen in public with her despite supporting her in private I had elected officials and party leaders who would gladly take private meetings with my campaign team and me but would balk at the mere notion of being seen publicly with me Jenner wrote in a recent USA Today column she would have been the first transgender governor in the United States had she won to a point I understand they have to protect themselves from their voters and base who might not be as open minded as they are she explained noting that the problem for someone like myself is partly generational but leadership means standing up for what is right and if you thank me privately for running for office you should be able to do it publicly despite association with her being treated like a dirty secret Jenner assures readers that she is still a Republican and will fight for inclusivity in the Republican Party that's going to go well she even complains that coming out as a Republican was more difficult than coming out as transgender so I just love that even as she explains to all of us how Republicans were literally embarrassed to be seen with her in public even if they privately supported her she's still a Republican she's still loyal to the party she still is making sure that that Republican victim narrative is a thing no it's harder for me to come out as a Republican than it is to come out as transgender is it though is it though really okay maybe that's true in her case because she is a multi-millionaire and she's older and she's not living with her parents who you know you may rely on for housing as is the case with trans youth I just we're to a point where I can't do anything but laugh at this what did you expect Caitlin what did you expect this is a classic Leopards ate my face situation where somebody was totally surprised that a leopard ate their face after they voted for the Leopards eating people's faces party I just I don't understand how you would expect something like this it's like you are running as a Democrat and your your number one thing is that you want to ban abortions the party kind of is against that so what are you trying to do here I mean perhaps when it comes to economic issues she is conservative because she's rich and she's looking out for her own self-interest but still I mean you can't pretend to be surprised that this transphobic party that made it their mission especially in 2021 to demonize trans youth they're against you how is that surprising to you this party has always been bigoted this this party has always used social issues and culture war issues to get elected they offer voters nothing so what do they do they prey on people's bigotry they prey on racism and xenophobia and transphobia and homophobia that's what they do they've been doing this forever so for you to be shocked to have a surprised Pikachu face when they're like I don't want to be seen with you in public what did you expect Caitlyn what did you expect Jesus Christ she's like a less self-aware version of Blair White it's just she's insufferable now to make matters worse I want to remind everyone that it's not just that she was transgender as part of the reason why she lost and didn't even barely reach one percent or she did but she barely got one percent either way remember how bad her campaign was and that also tells you a little bit about why she wasn't successful so during her campaign she pulled at six percent for public support lied about not voting for Trump in the 2020 election had an inconsistent stance on COVID-19 mask wearing complained about seeing homeless people in the streets expressed some support for Texas has bounty hunting anti-abortion law left her campaign to go record a reality show in Australia and ended up having to fund her own impoverished campaign I mean you might think that she's just a really bad candidate but I'm sure she'll use the footage that she shot from her campaign to make some reality show she might already have a reality show that I'm unaware of maybe it's like in its ninth season I don't know but she's just so insufferable so clueless so insufferable I don't know what else to say so I mean when she says things like this yeah I can't believe that the Republican Party is transphobic they literally chased you out of CPAC chanting transphobic bullshit at you this party doesn't want you Caitlyn Jenner so you have to choose do you actually care about transgender Americans and their suffering and the bigotry perpetuated by the party that you identify with or do you care about your own personal wealth so what do you care more about class solidarity or solidarity with the LGBTQ plus community well I think that she's already made that decision she's already stated her position loud and clear so now she shouldn't be surprised when her party rejects her because they're against you they don't support you having the freedom to be you they're against you their bigots this is kind of obvious so don't be surprised when they treat you like shit so I wanted to share a story with you out of the state of Alabama it's a really encouraging inspiring story and it really demonstrates what's possible if political leaders actually listen to the will of the people of course I'm just kidding it's Alabama it's a train wreck the story is depressing it speaks to how morally depraved our late stage capitalist society is and I mean I don't even know what to say about it I can't really supplement this article that I'm about to read to you with much commentary because I think it kind of speaks for itself the details here they're gross enough to where there's not much to be said about this but still I can't not talk about this because it's just it's so it's so egregious it's so gross so CNN's Rebecca Reese and Devin M. Sires reports Alabama governor KIV signed into law Friday a number of prison infrastructure bills that will use coronavirus relief funds to build new prisons in the state calling it a pivotal movement for the trajectory of our state's criminal justice system how inspiring Ivy a Republican had convened a special session of the Alabama legislature to discuss how to fix what she has called a decades-long problem of prison infrastructure challenges the governor said Friday's bill signing was the culmination of hard work and conversations between lawmakers on both sides of the aisle I like to personally offer my thanks to the legislative leadership who are standing behind me right here for a successful special session and what we believe will yield untold benefits to all Alabamians in the days ahead Ivy said you can't be serious earlier this week Ivy defended her proposal to use the state's allotment of COVID-19 relief funds to build prisons after receiving criticism from Democrats their proposal included using up to 400 million of federal COVID-19 relief money up to 785 million in bonds and no more than 54 million from the state general fund to add prisons and renovate others the state legislature gave the package final approval on Friday yeah that's the story now I shouldn't have to say this but there are virtually endless possibilities for that money I mean she should actually be using it for COVID relief Alabama has one of the lowest vaccination rates in the country with only 43% of residents fully vaccinated and 53% with at least one dose of the COVID-19 vaccines so she could have used this money to set up mobile COVID vaccine sites in the most rural areas of the state you could do that you can do a lot of things you can put it towards education housing you can set up a fund for low income residents to give them health care if you know Medicaid isn't doing the trick there's so much that you could do she's using it to build prisons I just what do you even say that really speaks to her priorities as a governor and this is kind of just microcosm of a bigger issue we always spend more money when it comes to killing people at least when it comes to what we're allowed to change right the discretionary budget in Congress most of the time more than half of that is spent on killing people and blowing up people and in Alabama they're using it to send people to prison when are we as a society going to stop accepting this from politicians what are we going to stop electing politicians that prioritize locking people up and killing people over actually helping people I don't know but there's not much left to say about this I just wanted to share it because this is kind of not the most shocking story to see out of a late-stage capitalist society and it's never been a shocking story as it relates to Alabama because it's Alabama but having said that though I could not talk about this because Jesus Christ what what a fucked up thing what a ridiculous thing to use COVID-19 relief funds while the pandemic is still going on to build prisons just Jesus Christ I'm here with Sam aka the Khaleesi from the Reset Race podcast and she is here to talk about a really important issue and that is the disappearance of Black Wealth in the United States of America and there's a really clear solution for this it's preparations and she has all the details that I think you need to know so Sam thank you so much for coming on the program thank you so much for having me like I'm really excited to be here like I was telling I'm a casual watcher so I'm like thank you to Brian because Brian when you ask he jumped in right away so I want to make sure I say thank you to Brian shout out to Brian Brian is very excited that this is happening Brian is great I love him he's one of my mods so yeah thank you so much for the recommendation I've heard of the Reset Race podcast before I didn't know that it was Actify but rebranded but yeah I've known Michael Graham for a while I brought him on the show at one point to talk about reparations so this isn't necessarily reparations 101 for my viewers but since then I've had more people tune in and I casually will mention reparations here and there but I think from time to time it's really important to revisit it and dive back in because every once in a while what I'll notice is that there's people that will talk about reparations but it's not necessarily an intellectually honest conversation or if they talk about reparations it's their interpretation of reparations which isn't the interpretation of the people who actually are fighting for it on the ground Eidos 101 the Reset Race podcast so I want you to kind of give my viewers the precise definition of reparations because there's and maybe it's not necessarily maybe it's hard to do that but oftentimes what I see is reparations broken down into two different distinct categories reparations is either one distributing wealth into black communities that's missing or two cutting a check and as my understanding is it should be both but ultimately the bottom line is you should cut a check a check is really what's owed not just morally but legally and there's so many different ways that you can attack this argument they're all compelling to me but in your view what is reparations and if somebody doesn't necessarily know how should they understand it so I'm going to actually pull up the official definition and then I'll go in deeper there we go because I think we should just start with a good old-fashioned encyclopedia that's always the safest bet yeah I think it's just easier for people right because yeah everybody's like you know these days people are like oh we should do some we should do a we should do a housing program that's reparations it's just everything separates itself reparations just the basic the making of amends for a wrong one has done by paying money to or otherwise helping those who have been wrong the action of repairing something so reparations the way that black Americans who descend from chattel slavery the ados movement us freedmen we are looking for we are actually looking for multiple programs and also a check to be involved as well because the thing about the racial wealth gap is you can't close it with just program because this is the thing so everybody's like well let's give people free college which you know it sounds great right free college that's the gateway to opportunity well black college graduates have less wealth than white high school dropouts so that's not the equalizer we try that for 3040 years so it says there's a bunch of there's a bunch of different things that people like well if we do this we'll give people free college oh well we can help people with down payments for homes well that sounds great but if I have a 450 credit score your 25 or 30 thousand dollar assistance is not getting me into anything because I have bad credit or I don't have a good enough job or I'm not stable so basically what reparations would do for black Americans is basically just make us stable so with Darity's numbers he's talking about seven around 17 trillion dollars per family 17 trillion dollars total so for that I like to look at it as a down payment but you know people should go with Darity first because you know the rest of us are like no we want more so go with the man who's trying to go with the man who's trying to be sensible because we like Thomas Kramer's numbers and he's talking about quadrillion so you know maybe I should listen to Darity a little bit more but it would basically be about eight hundred thousand dollars per family give or take and that actually when somebody hears that they might think oh that's inconceivable but a lot of people don't realize that we actually did distribute reparations before not to descendants of slaves but to the families of victims of Japanese internment and the individual who signed that into law the president who signed that into law was Ronald Reagan of all people so to think that it's inconceivable it's not just in this political context that we're in I feel like we're made to believe that this is such a weird absurd tricky concept but it's not just a necessity because Black wealth is disappearing at a rate that should alarm everyone but it's also morally necessary and the legal argument is sound it is what is owed and it's a debt that has never been paid and I think that there's a variety of ways that you can reason yourself into supporting it legally, morally out of necessity but either way it's something that to me is non-negotiable and with how fast Black wealth is disappearing I don't see how this isn't a really huge topic now one thing that I wanted to ask you about is for the first time ever in the House of Representatives there was actually a hearing on HR 40 which was originally not the hearing the hearing was last was 2019 that was the first one the markup was the first markup okay right we got it to a markup because it's the hearing first then a markup then if they vote or you hit 218 cosponsors and they have to vote which is honestly it's incredible to know that it got that far and we're far behind but the fact that it's there is great talk to us about the significance of that process and your thoughts on how it played out overall because I think this is really important because this is the first time we've seen movement and all that I expected from politicians to try to placate supporters of reparations but this is a little bit different we have members of Congress actually pushing it which is incredible so talk through that process so I'm going to start off by giving Evette Carnell credit so Evette Carnell basically motivated a lot of people across this country to get active so basically what happened from there is people started organizing they started doing campaigns I literally berated my congresswoman on twitter for about four weeks she was like no no no I already signed HR 40 they just haven't added my name to the list like because originally I think when it started when we started dealing with it had like 40 or 50 cosponsors we're up to 196 that's incredible we did a campaign we would call their offices we had scripts we were not playing around so we still haven't gotten where we need to be with it but to be honest it was a grassroots joint effort of a bunch of 80 OS people who were like you were going to pay attention to us and our issues and we haven't gotten it to the vote yet but you know if we could get what I think we have 196 you need 218 the force of vote so we can get more people to start calling their congressmen and asking about why they haven't done HR 40 and it'd be great if they're not all black people if they start hearing from white people about this too it's going to matter because a lot of times they feel like oh white people don't white people aren't going to like this so I'm not going to talk about it so if you start calling them and talking about it they're like uh-oh this is going to be something that I have to add into what's going on so I'm excited about the movement but we're still not where we need to be yet yeah yeah exactly and what I wanted to ask you is in terms of having conversations about reparations white people how do we and I mean I'm the white ally so I'm the one who should be trying to facilitate this but it's difficult because at the same time I want to be an ally but I don't want to talk out of turn so how do you think we bring people on this is one thing that I find that is kind of the issue is that people there's this tendency even on the left especially on the left they kind of prioritize universal policies and anything that disproportionately helps one group of people they tend to think you know what that's not going to be popular it's not going to gain any momentum but I think that we've really kind of misconstrued what reparations is to an extent at least as leftists broadly speaking I don't view this as a race-based policy even though it is that right um this is basically a program that does more than help ados this is a program that would boost the economy overall if black Americans have wealth then unlike billionaires they reinvest that into the economy into their communities and kind of like this is like the inverse of trickle down where a rising tide lifts all boats where if you actually invest money into the economy black people will spend that money in white businesses in black businesses and so it's not necessarily just a policy that exclusively benefits ados but at the same time there's almost this assumption that we can't walk and chew gum at the same time there's this implication where it's like if I support reparations that I have to put Medicare for all in the back burner when we need all of it we need universal programs and that I feel right now I'm just like listen we can no longer do piecemeal anything we're reparations first but we want to bundle we're like give us reparations in the same day put the other bill next to it federal jobs guarantee and some Medicare for all and some housing as a human right like we are down for the fight we are down to everybody to get everything that their families need but reparations is the cost of doing business because historically so this is the thing right when Thomas Kramer who is a I think he's like a historian but he also works on he does some economic work with he talks about reparations and he did calculations that's how he got to the quadrillion number so he talks about the reason why he likes likes America because he's from Germany the reason why he likes the history of America so much is because of the fact that there was always white resistance there was always like the abolitionist people don't understand that abolitionist there are white people who died fighting to protect and to secure freedom for black Americans this country has a rich history of white people fighting with black people but the problem is we don't really talk about in the history books it's not something that's really promoted but this has happened and we just have to get back to coming together working together again you can look at Bacon's Rebellion when everybody came together like they rioted for a year there was a whole rebellion for over a year that it took them to quash and if we would have won it would have been a very different thing so I think instead of it's frustrating for me as as an ADOS person as US Freedmen it's very frustrating for me because like I want reparations but I have four white God sisters and they all pretty much have children except for one I want their kids to have a wonderful life too I want their kids to have access to good education because they live in the country so they're not city kids and they're not rich people either so like I want them to have access to healthcare I want them to have good resources I want them to if they decide they want to go to college be able to go to college if they want to stay in their town and work in their town I want them to be able to do that so I just don't understand how I can want so much for so many people and it's just such a fight for people to want reparations for us even if you're not down for reparations why don't you just say okay well if you'll fight with us for this we'll fight with you for that and let's just call it a deal and that's such a good point to bring in I mean the problem with a lot of American politics maybe not even politics maybe just American cultures every single thing is presented as a zero sum game if you get something I lose something if I get something you lose something when that's not necessarily it so when you brought up how this is kind of all part of a package but you put reparations first that makes sense to me because I mean anyone who's watching this they're gonna be left as socialist communists and they know I mean if I could make a list of all the things that we need to do yes to fix this country it would be long so we need a gigantic package and we're kind of seeing this build back better plan 3.5 trillion and it's it's nice to see not enough at all but it's nice to see a bunch of things to do without the racism can we bring back the new deal without the racism it would be perfect it would be perfect they had writer's projects you and I could get some money to do this people can get money to to take care of their grannies you get money to read to old people write films open juice bars food trucks like yeah bring it back yeah yeah and that's what that's kind of like something that we need on that scale where we there's so many issues you can't just address one thing or incrementally address lots of things we need Medicare for all we need climate change reform we are not reformed but action we need reparations guarantee so we can start rebuilding the infrastructure of the country because we're gonna have to move whole groups of people from one place to another in this country like we gotta stop fighting each other start getting ready for what's coming right and and I love the way that you put it it's like if you fight for me with me on this I'll fight with you on that that's the thing that's missing in modern day politics and I don't know if it's just the product of the era where there's social media and we're all kind of decompartmentalized we're all in our own bubbles and so we don't necessarily speak with each other anymore but I think that solidarity is really lacking especially with leftists and really what we have to do is reconnect again as a movement and it's tough because it's in my opinion having a movement flourish it really does need leadership but there has to be some point where all these different groups come together Ados the sunrise movement and they kind of have the solidarity and they flex their muscle because together I think that it actually is doable if there is enough noise and maintain pressure and that's what I wanted to ask you about with Ados because this is the first time that we've ever or at least as long as I've been alive noticed sustained talks of reparations sometimes it would come up in presidential campaigns and a politician would signal support for it or they'd shoot it down but it's only a conversation once every four years this is the first time where the conversation is still going on and part of that is I think the persistence part of that is saying this is what I want first period end of story and that level of relentlessness I think is truly a blueprint for getting things done keeping it on the agenda so talk through the Ados movement in general and why this is issue number one because I think that a lot of people with white privilege or who are non-black they can't understand it but put it all in context for us well I get what you're saying so I know a lot of people are like well why can't you just do universal policies so the best way to explain it is we would be the bottom stable poor in your new socialist society because that's pretty much how it would work out because unless you're so listen this is my thing with the socialist I don't have a problem with socialist but some of y'all are democratic socialist and some of y'all are socialist socialist so you democratic socialist y'all are not talking about wealth redistribution so until you're talking about really going up and really snatching some money from the top and shifting everybody's numbers I don't want to hear anything because that's the only thing that would actually change it's just it's perfect example right if we live on the same block and they say okay we're giving everybody $10,000 to fix their house right if you already had $10,000 in the bank you have 20 grand to fix your house if I had a dollar I have $10,000 and one that may not be enough to fix what I need in my house but this is really simple it's we are so far behind and people don't even understand I think people in this country think black people are behind because like we're kind of lazy or we don't really have a good work ethic but you can trace everything through so after slavery we got it together like we went off we started you know we started building little towns we started getting our stuff together next thing you know boom people come in they're burning down the town there's so many books that are written there's this book called Buried in Bitter Waters where he just talks about racial cleansing where he literally was like okay first so basically he only talks about where people over like I think over a thousand people got expelled or over a certain percentage of the black population was expelled because originally when he first started doing it there was too many areas he had to narrow the search so he could actually write a book and I think he got it down to like 10 places so like Forsyth County there's a lot of some some incident with a young white woman and next thing you know they're killing people in town and rushed and ran everybody out so that's also like okay that's a long time ago right well we literally were we literally had black codes into the 1960s which means you couldn't necessarily you couldn't buy your home certain places you couldn't live certain places there was an actual threat of danger because people could just lynch you and then on into the 50s in the late 50s so like if you got too successful like there's people who literally would get successful and hide their success because they wouldn't want to draw attention to themselves because they wouldn't want people to think they were upbeat and then we just keep going so then after that you have the 70s the 80s you have all this redlining still like and then we get a little bit of something like you know after the 60s like they opened up a little bit we they're like okay we're gonna give you guys access to jobs something next thing you know the industrialization like and we're back here down the we never got a chance to build real well I guess that's what I'm really trying to say like people the black we've never had a black middle class we've always only had a few token people who were able to make it out but for the most part most people are just down and we sorry give me a second it's just it gets frustrating sometimes yeah it's so hard because like 50% of the homeless population in this country is black like and you have to understand after they release us from slavery they release us to nothing so people died of exposure small pox like where do you go so here we are now and our people are still homeless plus the 80s we have the crack epidemic where we know that they allowed you know the iron contra to pump drugs into our our inner cities like all of this affects everything that is happening to us then so there are a few people who can work their way out of it but that's the same way for white people like yeah you know as a white person you might be a worn buffet maybe but the odds of it are very you know what I mean so people just don't understand it's it's it's a lot when you start looking at the numbers and you see the data you start to understand so it's not too far to our own like we go to school we get college degrees then we either don't get hired or when we do we make less money you know we try to buy homes but the neighborhoods that we buy our homes in they don't appreciate in value the only way they appreciate in value is if white people move in and then our property taxes go up and we can't afford it and we end up having to give up our homes gentrification like everything we try to do to we try to start a business but we can't get the same loans we can't get the same help like if you have people look up what's going on with the black farmers like you know the farm subsidies pretty much keep farmers alive and they're being denied for these loans they can't get this like we can't get a leg up even when we try even when you're at your best and let's just say you are at your best right let's say you succeed one mistake one thing goes wrong you lose everything you're back down to the bottom with everybody else I'm sorry I know that got a little long-winded no it's it's perfect it's there's also this heightened vulnerability it goes to the drug war where if you're a successful black American well you may do drugs or smoke pot at the same rate as your white peers but who's more likely statistically to get locked up and it's not a coincidence that's what I think people need to realize is that we have to broaden our horizon universal programs are great but if everybody rises and you have white people here and black people here they just all rise at the same time but you still have people who are down and part of the problem is that our entire system has been designed to disadvantage black Americans and that's not some unintended consequence our institutions are white supremacist institutions and any policy that has been delegated to basically try to alleviate these issues it's like plain whack-a-mole you need systemic reform because every single time there's been opportunities for growth for black people they're there it's like two steps forward one steps back and I'll give like my own personal example so I used to commute when I lived outside of Portland and this road that I would drive on very very busy highway I have never seen a cop a single time not once not a single so I would speed I would go fast not even worry about it and then I talked to my niece who's a Latina and her partner's black and every time they drive that same road they get pulled over wow every time and so to me being someone who has never had to think through these things now think about where I am where the police might be that really I mean it's not like I wasn't aware of this but white privilege is a thing that you always have to constantly put in check because this is something that you can't turn off like you can't you can't not be black this is part of your experience so I just imagine like I kind of try to broaden that if you are someone who's successful you're making six figures you own a house well all that can go away you can lose your job if some racist cop pulls you over and you get arrested for some bullshit reason yeah so at every turn even if you make it you might not keep it and that's that's the problem and it goes but this isn't just like a new phenomenon it goes back to the history I mean this is one thing that I try to get across to people whenever reparations come up is that if you have an entire group of people who are slaves and you just let them go I mean it's like we see this kind of now and why the recidivism rate is so high when people get out of prison they have no families they have nowhere to go so if you do that to an insane family bonds I was watching some weird I watched random stuff I was watching something in Spanish on Netflix about this woman in Brazil who killed her husband but she gets to go home for a week a year and spend time with her family yes they literally let people go home they get furloughs for period of time every year could you imagine if like all nonviolent drug offenders to be let out but could you imagine nonviolent offenders were able to go home for a couple of months a year and if we weren't price gouging their people so they can't talk to them on the phone we're breaking those relationships those relationships could be maintained but we make it so expensive that you can't even do that and I want to go back to your question what is black people black people don't have boats we are jet on the little wooden little wooden door with rolls trying to climb up and that is our dinghy boat so we don't have dinghy boat we literally have driftwood that's a good that's a good analogy we might fall off the driftwood and drown there's no guarantees we're going with it but what I want to put out there too is because I'm glad that white people are confronting their white privilege but I don't want white people to feel like this is a guilt thing because if you learn the history of this country they taught you to hate black people there were consequences so queen mother Audrey Moore okay so I'm going to go a quick little thing so after I love history I love the way she was a former slave she literally went around and started organizing formerly enslaved people to try to get slave pensions from the government this is less than five years after slavery she had organized over 300,000 people at that time five years after they were telling her slavery is over get over it we don't need to give you nothing there was literally money there was literally a big cotton stock where they had seized from the south they had used to have the money they were like yeah we have the money then they tried to sue to get the money like oh there's no money so this reparations fight started a long time ago and it could have been paid a long time ago so the people who were in her movement they ended up going into the Garvey movement and from Garvey we had queen mother Audrey Moore and there's an old recording of her talking about after slavery things were starting to get a little bit better for black folks a lot of black folks and white folks were working together and then there was the turn that's when the black code started so white people who would work with black people they would tar you they would feather you they would make it where you couldn't have employment you would have or they would kill you there were real consequences so when you think about that for generation after generation let's talk about redlining right let's talk about that let's say you are a good white person who doesn't hate black people right but if you let people move into your neighborhood in the 60s your stock your housing price plummets because of white white scare and you could end up with a home or end up living in a neighborhood that's going to have no resources so are you were you a racist or were you a person so like they incentivize you to anti-black it's a setup right and if you really think about it's a setup and all of us have to not like not catch people going to those traps right but you have to understand that there was traps that were created to condition people to become this way and that's why you have to know you have to read history I do so much history on the recent race podcast like we literally have watch parties where like we watch lectures which I'm amazed because like 100 people will like watch a lecture and I'm just like okay good we're nerds I like this that's incredible that educational information information is really really incredible yeah yeah so I want to go back to your thing about white privilege and one way that I heard it explained really well which is because people don't with privilege there's this like inherent assumption that oh I'm not guilty I never did that my ancestors you know what I mean but one way to kind of frame it is it's not necessarily anything but a disadvantage that you don't have so for example I could be impoverished just as any black American can be but when I apply apply for a job statistically I'm not going to get rejected because I have an African-American sounding name which studies have shown that is the case or if I'm a white woman in America I am unlikely to be viewed as unprofessional because of my hair choice I mean all throughout the country there's been disadvantages in every single facet of society and it takes a very long time to unravel them and the way that I think about it is the first step to actually building true equality is to put people on society in equal footing and that's why I think that reparations is so crucial not just as a social policy but also as a legal debt that's owed I brought up a long time ago when I was talking to Michael Graham about reparations you know my father my family didn't have much intergenerational wealth but my dad's great uncle died I don't know if my dad even met him and between my dad and all of his siblings they got split in money for his property that was sold and so they all got like $5,000 and it was a really good demonstration of how generational wealth works I was so glad you got that so there was a Wall Street Journal article and they're talking about how a bunch of Americans have stockpiles trillions of dollars and they're about to give it away to their Gen Xers and Millennial grandkids and they're talking about somewhere around $272,000 no, $212,000 that's going to be passed on to people reparations is $272,000 so please don't fight me for my reparations when a lot of you are going to get the same money that I need I'm not coming for your inheritance so leave my money alone unless you want to trade if you want to give up the inheritance if everybody wants to start over every generation like black people we can have a conversation but that sounds like a terrible idea yeah well and you know it goes more than just like that example it goes I think deeper than showing how generational wealth transfers but I think it kind of serves as a good basis for the legal argument because there was no question like when my dad got that money he got a phone call from one of his siblings who told him and he's like oh okay he didn't have to fight for that he didn't have to petition lawmakers for that he just got it because it was illegal debt that was owed to him and this is a way that I want people to conceptualize reparations it's something that was promised but never paid and it doesn't matter that time has passed that doesn't mean that it's any less owed in fact if time passes the more that time passes the more that it should be paid I mean there's late fees for regular citizens if they miss their rent payment you know if they miss their bills so that shouldn't necessarily be a pursuit I used to work at Blockbuster you're welcome but yeah I mean it's so one thing that I was really hoping that you could put into perspective and we do have some charts here I love my charts I love that you're a nerd because this is I'm a visual learner so to have this is really important yes so basically black wealth is disappearing that's what we started this with but the rate to which black wealth that exists not that there's much but that it exists is disappearing should be frightening to every single person um so can you talk to this I do have some figures I'll bring this up just for context here but this is something that I feel like should give people that extra sense of urgency for this issue if they didn't necessarily think that this should be a priority well this is good for people to see right because some of our favorites on YouTube they say that the black white the black white wealth gap is only like in the top 10% of um of Americans but if you look at this you see at every rate black people have less than white people even when white people have very little so if you look in like the first quintile you'll see like white families have 950 but then black families will have negative 12,000 you go to the next one you know almost 67,000 then black families will have less than 2,000 and it's at every level even when you get up to the top black families that are in the top quintiles will have like 324,000 and then a white family will have a million so these people don't even live in the same neighborhoods or live together so the thing about it is even though white white numbers like we do need we do need we need programs to help with the disparity in white communities as well but when you put them side by side you guys have class black people really don't have class the first three quintiles are under 25,000 dollars in wealth that's not class that's poverty and then after that 85,000 that puts you that puts you still under the third quintile for white people again so you're a little bit so are doing well black folks wealth wise or somewhere like in the second quintile for white people are right above that like people really don't understand that like the best and the brightest of black people are struggling and their families are struggling and then another thing I like to point out is for you to be in the top 5% of black families all you need is $350,000 I need people to understand that because there is no way in life that you could reach the top 10% of white people the top 5% of white people by having 300,000 like $350,000 so if you're a black person and you own a home in like Los Angeles or New York or one of those big markets you are in the top 5% of black people even if you are literally struggling to pay your taxes every year like that's how bad what's going on in our community is and again it's not the failure of people not working hard it's the system the system has worked to literally take many black people and one thing that I wanted you to kind of touch on is or kind of expand on is systemic racism I feel like leftists know that it's a thing but it's hard to visualize it if you haven't seen it and one example that I use is COVID-19 I mean with this pandemic it's not a coincidence that black and brown people have died more from COVID contracted COVID more this isn't some random it's not like when you're exposed to it more we're all doing the same thing but the reason why this is happening is because of the systems in place at every step of the way black people are disadvantaged in this country in ways that are not even conceivable to many people ways that we don't think about and this is because it is embedded in our institutions and you can't take that out easily it has to be ripped out and it's a difficult process but I think that that really like you can't so when it comes to unemployment rates or anything any other data point you can try to come up with some bogus argument well it's because black people they don't work as much because there's fathers in the homes that's a racist trip that comes up but when it comes to COVID-19 this is a new thing that we all learned about a couple of years ago how do you rationalize that if you're a right-winger do you say oh well you know black people just like being exposed to right it's systemic racism so I mean could you talk more about systemic racism because I feel like people don't necessarily like they understand it but it's kind of a morphist can you give like a concrete example of this the best way to describe is like systemic racism let's talk about the school system right the school to prison pipeline right right you shut or there's so many things but let's start with the schools right so you start shutting down schools or you don't put enough funding and resources into these schools right so you have schools that are under recess underfunded plus the communities are under resourced and underfunded so then when kids act up in school because a lot of times like I didn't do a lot of acting up in school but I was really smart and really bored so I you know but I saw other kids be punished for what other kids would do but this is the thing with it so you have kids in next thing you know these kids are getting in trouble like you have school resource officers in there and they're you know locking up kids and taking kids to jail and these kids are getting records in school and it starts to translate like what future does that child have so you're in school your schools underfunded so you're not learning anything they pass you along and if you are smart and bright you're still dodging your community and if you're lucky enough to be smart enough to get out you have to hope you were smart enough to get scholarships you find a job where you got to go like there's so many facets to it but for the kids who don't make it you just pump them into the prison system and you warehouse them until they're in their 40s or 50s and then you send them home to their families to take care of them for the rest of their lives because you're not going to give them opportunity like that's one way that the system works I remember I saw this really good tiktok video I wish I could remember it where this gentleman went through and he showed like the levels of lynchings and when the levels of lynchings go down the prison system numbers go up so they literally switched one thing with the next yeah it's so that's a good way I feel like that's a good way to describe it and a lot of there's just a lot of other things like just the way the communities are set up right if there isn't a good bush transportation or good public transportation to the nice white community with the jobs how do I work because there's no jobs in my community like this is before we even talk about if a white person will hire me there might be the best white person ever who's there who wants to hire black people but if I have transportation to get there every day they can't help me like so this is like I said there's so many facets like it's just a lot it's a system that's why I need white people to understand it's a system like nobody's saying that every white person is racist but you live in America so you might be a little racist and I say that as a black American who grew up in the suburbs it makes you a little racist like I had to learn anti-black shit like sorry excuse me I don't know you can curse like I had to learn a little bit of anti-blackness like I had to learn when I walk into an elevator with a big black man not to be scared why am I scared I'm with my people but I had to unlearn that just from growing up in the suburbs like people don't understand we all watch TV the news bars it's like visual you don't understand the things that just shape the way you think without you even trying to as I said it's not about blaming you it's just about start looking around and if you don't know like just take some time to look up and read some stuff like I went to private school times in the 8th grade then from then on I went to public school so I had a public school high school education nothing that I know about black history and to be honest nothing that I know about the majority of American history did I learn in school I had to take time to educate myself on my own so like don't be a don't don't feel upset or bad like I have people like oh my god I can't believe I didn't know this I was like I can't believe I didn't know this till 5 years ago like I just read it in the book like just people have to people if you want to know you just have to start making the steps and try and then you know to talk to some black people that's another thing a lot of y'all don't talk to regular black people don't talk to rich black people don't talk to rich black if she grew up in the suburbs with you don't talk to her go talk to somebody else you need to talk to somebody who grew up in the inner city or person like because once you do you start to understand what's going on but I think a lot of times like oh I have a black friend well your black friends in the top 5% of black people so you're talking to a rich negro I'm sorry but like you're talking to the wrong person well in my response to the black friend thing is if it comes from a millennials you don't have a black friend we don't have any friends we're millennials we don't talk to anyone anymore so don't lie you're you're bullshitting me so basically you're you've kind of given us just a little sneak peek of what you discuss on the reset race podcast you have history lessons you have really in depth conversations and basically everything that I know I know from Michael Graham at least the intricate details so can you tell people basically where they can find this podcast what it's about what you do and why they should watch it most importantly because I feel like people if you're hearing about reparations at length for the first time you might not necessarily understand it you might have questions but that's okay this is a learning process and we live for what 80 years if we're lucky as human beings you're not going to get all the knowledge in the world it's you're constantly learning and this is part of the process and reset race is an incredible resource and I love that you do media critique media analyses you take what is being said the discourse and you break it down I think it's it's invaluable so explain where people can watch this set and kind of let us know what you talk about okay so you can join you can come find us at the reset race network because we have a lot of shows but our flagship show is the reset race show so that shows basically we go and we we go through a lot of the I say like the leftist the leftist progressives a lot of their talking points because a lot of them have some good ideas but when it comes to black people and black issues they just fall off the cliff it's it's embarrassingly bad yeah so our whole thing is kind of go through and critique so we can let people who are fans of them like for a lot of them some of them yeah we want you to go away but the majority like we just want you to talk about us a little bit too so we're hoping from people watching us they'll start encouraging the people they watch like hey you know you can talk about black issues too we're okay with that like we like black people too I think that's all we're looking for so we really break down the argument the reset race show is a little raunchy there's a lot of fussing and cussing so definitely be ready for it but it's also like data and analysis we pull out everything we'll pull out articles we'll pull out charts but we'll also pull out like clips from a movie like I pulled out the weekend at Bernie's two clip talking about Joe Biden how they dusted him off and resurrected him to win and I had we get I had Bernie doing the weekend at Bernie's thing for weekend at Bernie's you know I know I feel like these days like people like some people know what you're talking about some people don't but just Google it you'll see it so we just try to keep it fun for everybody and then we just launched a couple more shows so well Bitterdose has been with us from the beginning so the Bitterdose TV show has great analysis as well and when you were talking about Reagan doing a doing reparations for the Japanese and the things that they were talking about mud did a whole Japanese internment campaign internment camp issue where for reparations and they actually went through the hearings and everything else oh it's so good they literally use the same excuses now that they're giving that they gave the Japanese about why they shouldn't pay them reparations of the same excuses they're giving them now even though white people won't like it and they might come for you and attack you again it's too divisive interesting so we have Bitterdose then we just started the John Brown leftist and that is all accomplices and Ados people so we I think the total crew is like 14 but we average we average around 10 okay great like we have like a good coalition everybody is there it's for reparations but we're also trying to work on ideas for like how to our goal with Reset Race the network is to start translating all of this stuff offline we want to actually switch people how to organize how to not only just not use our ideas but how to come up with their own ideas as well so we really want to see this translate onto the ground so that's what we're trying to do with that group because it's a nice coalition of people so we're going with that I'm excited and then we just got another show that was added which is called the Hero Hunter which is by Cash and he literally goes through and he he takes down like the George Washington myth the Thomas Jefferson myth so that's something that's really if he doesn't like in a fun interesting way so he has like anime clips in it and like different that's awesome it's really good it's really entertaining and then we're going to have an interview show that's going to be starting around Thanksgiving so that's everything that should be coming out or is out this year so we have a lot going on at Reset Race like you should definitely check this out that's incredible I didn't know you all had expanded that much that's really incredible that we we move kind of fast so when you see a need you kind of have damn it sorry my dog my mom's going to have to go get my dog I can hear oh it's okay I have dogs too so I can totally understand if you want to if you want to bring the dogs on camera that will score bonus points for the viewers for sure this is my noodle she's a German Shepherd she's beautiful how old is she she'll be three months and two days oh she's a puppy wow oh my god well here's one thing I'll recommend for Reset Race if you do live streams do a dog cam so I started doing that on Twitch streams and people show up for the dogs more than they show up for me well that's good to know I'll just have her sit there and abuse everything yeah sorry no well Sam it's been so much fun bringing you on hopefully you can come back at another point in time yeah I love the I would love to I would love to and let me just say one thing so people who are watching this they might tune in and see criticisms of their favorite media personalities but here's one thing that differentiates Reset Race from other other podcasts it's good faith it's actually constructive and it's about learning not for clickbait which is really really important people might see it in the like oh you're attacking this person but it's not really an attack it's more of a correction and I think that that's so important because when it comes to issues like this that oftentimes get co-opted I mean reparations with politicians for example gets co-opted in those oh I support reparations when you press them on it do you so it's important that you guys take the time to explain because I do think that that is crucial to the learning to the learning process but Sam is there anything else you want to say before we wrap your dog is so cute thank you so much I just want to thank you for having us everybody come check out the Reset Race Network and you know bear with us like I said we do beat up on your favorites a little bit but we just want them to be better like the thing that it is the only way you guys are going to win is if you get black people to join you like you don't understand like black people we don't have to fight against you all we have to do is stay home so like if you want to get people excited like reparations is a way to get black Americans excited you want Obama numbers for people you want then you we got to push them and to be honest we got to push them to do better for all of us because all of us are struggling so yeah but you fight with me I'll fight with I'll fight with you know if you fight with me for what we need I will do the same and like I said I'm here for it like people don't understand like we we watch all of the content creators you all don't even understand like how many black people watch y'all and we'll start watching it something like oh man they don't like us we'll just fall off it we'll never leave you a comment we'll never say anything about it we just go away and that's worse because you don't even know that you're losing people so yeah you know yeah well well here's one last thing so one of the ladies on the John Brown left as she said when when reparations came up when Bernie was running that it caught her completely off guard and she didn't even realize that there had been a reparations conversation going on so for me but I understand because you know there's black Twitter white Twitter so she just didn't fall into black Twitter but I think going forward for these next elections like there's gonna have to be a mixing of what's going on because why people when you hear black people are trying to fight for something you can't just automatically dismiss us it's it doesn't it doesn't make us feel good about trying to work with you so even if you're not even if you don't like what somebody saying just give them a minute to talk it out you know have asked them questions and ask them you know and like you know okay I'm just sometimes it's okay just like look I just want to ask a question to get some understanding this is not an attack just and people will give you the information but you have to actually start talking to us instead of just dismissing us like oh you're just a fight or oh you're just a neoliberal oh you just listen I hate Joe Biden Joe my my uncle literally this is the longest he's ever been out of prison since he was 18 years old he is 56 years old he was a nonviolent drug offender he was just a drug addict he was been in and out of prison his entire life and Joe Biden son is the same has those same kind of issues and he had a life so I hate nobody so people like oh you're just neoliberal and you're just for the democracy no I'm for my people I would like to see my people do better and to be honest I'd like to see the whole country do better because you know I don't want the hunger games nobody wants to live in bad max and for those of y'all who watch the walk and dance black people don't do well in this stuff like like yeah y'all got too many guns and y'all are already ready for the end of the world like we a little behind on that so I'm gonna need us to come to Kevin now well and let me just say that as a gay dude I'm not an alpha male so I would be one of the first to die in that scenario man you better find you a friend hello everyone I am here with Isaiah James running in New York's ninth congressional district he's running again he's been on my show multiple times and he is one of the best congressional candidates Isaiah James welcome back thank you so much for having so I I've got to ask the question and we've talked since you've launched again what on earth made you want to run for Congress a second time because the first time sucks the life out of you every congressional candidate that I've spoken with says it is the most grueling the most tiring thing that they've ever done you're doing it twice in a row what made you want to do it well first of all this is not the most grueling or tiring thing I've ever done I've been to war three times that's a good point so this is actually pretty easy compared to getting shot at and blown up every day you know so not that not that grueling it's very time consuming but what made me want to do it again you know I don't want to say do it again like it's just like some endeavor what made me have to do it again is because the situation that we're in in this country is getting worse by the day it's getting worse by the billionaire created it's getting worse by the company that fires somebody you know lays them off instead of wants to pay them a living wage nothing is getting better everything is getting worse and it's not hyperbole for me to say that things are getting worse people know that so nobody's stepping up the few people that do step up the voices are drowned out so you know what do we have to lose by standing up and fighting for our community if I was to say you know what screw it and sit back the corporations aren't going to stop the billionaires aren't going to stop police violence is not going to stop housing injustice is not going to stop so I might as well have some skin in the game and try to fight for the things that I believe in and things that I know that will make my life and my community's life better and in turn every working person and poor person's life better so you better get up off your ass and get to it yeah yeah hey fair enough so I've got to ask you because you're running a second time and everyone who I've spoken with who has run multiple campaigns they always say round two is it's different because you have a lot more insight you know the district even better you know kind of what you were lacking last time what's different this time to you I feel like now you kind of have the additional insight that you need to actually win and bringing home what do you think has been the biggest thing that you've changed with this second run it's not really I haven't changed anything my message is still the same it's still you know economic message for the people but the thing that I am not as gullible as I was last time I'm not as you know rose colored glasses as last time you know last time believe it or not I was running I was like I didn't want to tell anybody I was running I thought I could do it in secret and like you know sneak up and be the insurgent that nobody saw I didn't really want to raise money because I don't like asking poor people to work and people for money I'm like yeah I don't really need money I don't have a good message and a good voice and you know good volunteers I'm not as naive as that this time so I know I just I grew up a lot from 32 year old Isaiah so I'll be 35 in two weeks so I grew up a lot happy birthday thank you October 13th I turned 35 I can't okay so yeah I grew up a lot since then you know I mean and it just it just shows me that it shows me that this fight is worth because when I was young and idealistic at 32 thinking I can change the world now I'm at 35 and I know that we have to change this world yeah and I turned 35 next year and I feel like with each passing year I get more and more cynical but not necessarily in a bad way I mean some of it is demerism but I feel like I just know more I know what to expect I know how to view the world better and I feel like with age it really does come wisdom not for everyone because oftentimes the trope is that when you get older you get more conservative but that certainly hasn't been the case with me and I don't think it's the case with you so it's interesting one thing that I wanted to ask you about is and we talked about this the last time you're running for Congress is you are running against Yvette Clark this is the incumbent and we don't hear very often about Yvette Clark you know the rotating villain for the Democratic Party if you will is Manchin Cinema and so she's definitely not as bad as someone like Henry Cuellar or other corporate Democrats so why do you feel as if she needs to be primaried I want to correct you on something she is just as bad as all of them she's just quiet she doesn't do anything she doesn't make any waves she just takes the corporate money and doesn't do a goddamn thing so they're just as bad let's not equivocate on her taking farmer money let's not equivocate on her taking defense money and big gas and big sugar and big agra and big insurance that we're not going to equivocate on that she's just as bad as the rest of them she just doesn't do anything that's why you never hear about it at least Joe Manson's a piece of he's a POS but he takes his stance Yvette Clark she's a tissue in the wind she goes wherever the wind blows she doesn't want to ruffle feathers she votes for anything military she votes for anything you know Nancy Pelosi says and as we can see look what's happening in Congress right now even some of the Democrats don't want to you know bolster the social safety net so all of these folks they're just as bad what makes me know that she needs to go is that dude if you walk around my district right now alright as the same homeless people on the streets they were on the streets three years ago if they didn't die from the pandemic if you walk around my district right now there's more drugs there's more crime excuse me there's more children who are hungry there's more people getting evicted from their homes I'm like what the hell is going on in two years during a pandemic you had the world at your feet you could have done anything you could have put forth any bill and got people rally into your side and you did nothing you did nothing I mean dude we can't afford to have feckless milk toast middle of the road whatever acronym or adjective you want to use we need bold transformational leadership and we need it now look at the look at the world as it stands you know I mean the ice caps are melting the amazons on fire the people are there's a goddamn pandemic that is killing millions of people and we still have half the country who doesn't believe it's real the other half of the country who just wants to go and bury their heads in the sand because they've been dealing with it like the rest of us now is not the time for us to take our eye off the proverbial prize which is a more equitable and more just and a more more egalitarian society and we can make it so we just have to have people in office who want to make it so yeah and I think that the point you're getting at is that if you're complicit you're part of the problem and I totally agree with that she's not putting herself out there she's not being a leader and I think it's actually bad if a politician isn't trying to strive to have a more say more national name recognition you don't have to just put yourself out there because you have broader political ambitions and you want to run for president you can put yourself out there because you have something to say and that's really what I think is lacking and it's the lack of effort from a lot of these lawmakers that is sufficient to warrant a primary challenge but you know you are someone who's a leader and so here's what I want to ask you I actually want to pose a hypothetical question to you because if you're in congress it's going to be challenging it's going to be tough I have no doubt that you can weather any storms whatever they throw at you but I'm curious as to what you would do in kind of peculiar situations where there's really no right or wrong answer let's say that you just introduced some bill that you really want passed this is kind of like your go-to issue and in order to get support for it in order to get more cosponsors for it you have a group of democratic party lawmakers who say we're not going to give you a committee hearing for this unless you vote for this other bill which you don't actually agree with ideologically you're opposed to it so the question is in that type of a scenario which is bound to come up if you're in congress how do you balance out the pros and the cons doing something you don't like to possibly benefit the greater good how do you navigate those types of situations can you just kind of speak through your thought process yes so I'm glad you brought that up somebody has to take a stand if you keep equivocating then it you're bringing up a scenario that's not a hypothetical dude it happens all the time it happened that's how we get all these pork barrel defense spending rich keep getting richer and tax breaks keep going through because that happens all the time look what happens when there's a group of people who say we're not going to vote for that bill unless you make the social safety that bigger it's it's national news they're like what is going on because finally somebody's taking a stand no if it's going against what I believe ideologically I'm not going to vote for it I'm sorry I'm not well I told you this the year and a half ago the lesser of two evils is still evil all right I do not want to prescribe to that I don't want to sign my name onto a bill that's going to give Israel more iron dome funding while our schools are failing I am not going to sign on a bill that gives a corporation a tax break while a single mother is struggling just to make ends meet and can't get help from the damn government I cannot in good conscience do that I would hope that the people of my district would vote for me knowing who I am and where I stand on the issues sending me to congress to represent their best interest and to do what I think is right on their behalf because I'm not some rich kid who just wants to run for office I am one of you when I take this suit jacket off I walk down Flatbush Avenue I go to the bodega and I buy a sandwich because I am one of you so I would want you to do what's in the best interest of me and I hope they understand that anything I would do would be in the best interest of them not the rich and not the powerful yeah I really like that that answer because it kind of gives people a sense of what you're going to do in congress you're going to be one of the legislators who's this immovable object listen you have to be that immovable object because if you capitulate here and then there and then there and then there and then there listen a ship does not sink because all of the water around it a ship only sinks when the water gets inside of it so if you capitulate in a little crack here a little crack there and there's just a little bit of corporate money gets in here and a little bit of corporate money comes to your coffers there and you're invited to a cigar tasting here and a whiskey sipping there and then you become corrupted just like all the rest of it yeah and I think the issue is that if you make many compromises here and there I think that sometimes that's acceptable but over time if enough lawmakers do it enough I mean we get into a situation where you can't really break that cycle and so I think it's really important to have people like you that kind of get in there and you're wrecking balls you won't necessarily play by their rules and you don't want to be part of the establishment or their club you don't want to make friends with your colleagues you just want to get things done I'm not going there to have to make friends I'm going there to solve problems I don't want to be any of those people's friends I don't want to go to your parties I don't invite me to food listen if you know me if I'm not working I'm at home reading a book I'm watching YouTube I don't want to be your friend I don't want to hang out with you I'm your co-worker and that's where at 1700 five o'clock we walk out of this building that's where that stops yeah okay so I want to I want to ask you a different hypothetical question so it's about policy details and you're one of the few people who I think really explain the fundamentals of certain policies that you support really well like the intricacies and sometimes you can get presented a package that is seemingly good but when you dive into the details it doesn't look so good so for example there's a couple variations of paid family leave going through congress I don't know which one will ultimately land in the Build Back Better Act the reconciliation bill but Kirsten Gillibrand surprisingly has a really good paid family leave plan it just takes from Social Security and people just they get that federally but then there's also a corporate version of that same plan where it's privatized and you go through a certain company sort of like insurance I don't know which one will ultimately land but let's say that that was taken out of the bill that was decoupled and there was a vote for paid family leave all of a sudden you have these independent media progressive personalities saying Isaiah James just voted against paid family leave he's a sell out how do you handle that situation because it's really difficult like we're in and this isn't I used to think that this was just a mainstream media problem where sometimes we have standards that are either too high or we don't understand things so how do you change the narrative as a politician when you're not necessarily able to come on shows as frequently as usual and explain yourself how do you how do you handle that type of situation because optics is everything in politics and what you kind of lose support if you were to lose support how would you try to regain trust among not necessarily your constituents but people who have been following you for years my viewers for example people on Twitter how would you respond to that because I genuinely don't have an answer but I want to know what you think well the thing about me is you know I'm an accessible person so I would like you know what I would hold Christians cinema or Chris or Chuck Schumer or hold alive on on Instagram or Facebook our generation we are the millennials so I know how to use our stuff so one don't don't look what I say look what I do have that I ever voted for anything that you know goes against the interests of working people and poor people no I would never do that I would never ever do that so if I've ever done that and you call me on that but it'll never happen and two I'll address the people I'm a I'm a man of the people if you have a problem with the way you think things are going and I'm your representative you could talk to me send me a DM right now even right now to this day Mike and you know this I have thousands of followers on all my social media I have the blue check marks I have all that stuff there's not a single person that writes my tweets that does any of that stuff whoever does that is me I see everything I respond to everything because I if something is going out in the world I said it and I meant it so just reach out to me and talk to me you'd be surprised somebody wrote me an email to the campaign email the other day they said hey Mr. James I saw you on a show I wanted to make a donation here's my phone number I was like okay I called them wasn't a big donation it was like 27 bucks they were shocked that I actually called them I was like you told me to call you so I'm calling you I can devote five minutes out of my day to call you and to tell you what my platform and policies is about it's just being accessible to the people people get mad at at AOC but she doesn't she gives you like once in a once a month she'll cook something on live and answer a few questions a representative is literally the voice of the people so you just have to talk to people you have to make people see that I'm not voting against I'm not voting for anything that's against your best interest because right now people get so mad because they don't understand anything in Washington it's all a bunch of you have you ever read like people you say I break down policies I went to school both undergrad and graduate for public policy and political science so I understand the minutia it's about breaking down these complex subjects into simple easy to understand things for everyday people like this is why this bill sucks it sucks because it's going to give corporations you know huge tax breaks and it's going to hurt you the working person and they understand that you're that you not only can tell them that but that you're fighting for their interest because you're one of them believe that's why if you look last cycle you remember all the policies that were going out all my opponents were attacking each other none of them said a word to me brought me or to me to my stuff all they said was I had lack of experience but they couldn't attack my policies because every one of my policies is written by working people my wife is a teacher that's why we talk about education my wife is Puerto Rican her family is Puerto Rican that's why we talk about independence from Puerto Rico my father is an immigrant this day he's not a citizen that's why immigration means a lot to me I talk about veterans issues because I'm a veteran talk about student loan because I have student loans LGBTQ mean something to me because my little sister deserves the same quality as everybody else so these aren't just amorphous topics to me all of this stuff actually mean something to me and mean something to millions of people across this country and that's where I'm going to fight for them yeah yeah and I love it and the reason why I'm bringing up these hypotheticals is because by now I feel like most of my audience knows you so I think it's interesting to get the insight to what it would really be like to visualize I want to do a live with you so people can just ask questions right then and there you know I mean I don't want people because I know we say like these questions aren't scripted but people I know somebody's out there gonna be like they probably rehearse these questions which we did which we did it though I promise you did not but yeah live like even like a 30 minute live on Twitter or something where people can just ask questions just ask me whatever you want to ask me as I guess I'm a public figure now I had to google myself the other day and it said public figure which I never thought I'd be but whatever just ask me whatever you want to ask me I'm just saying regular old Isaiah I told you like most of you don't know this I have on a nice blazer I have on sweatpants and crocs I'm not playing with you people right there open my crocs right here dude so don't let the glasses in the nice suit fool you I love it I will say rule number one when you become a public figure is never google yourself I learned the hard way that's a very bad idea yeah I google myself I was like oh okay I was talking about me like I was 40 years old I'm 40 I didn't know I was 40 yeah yeah I found very very weird stuff I actually broke down one of the celebrity biographies written about me and it was very strange I don't know where these people get this information some of the stuff they wrote I'm like that is absolutely not true I've never lived in Massachusetts I don't know what the hell you're talking about but okay I was 40 years old I was like wow I didn't know any of this stuff it's news to me news to you as the person is reading this about you yeah it's it's bizarre it's bizarre well Isaiah let's people know what you need specifically currently is it donations is it canvassers and just kind of like give us your last pitch I feel like you don't have to win many people over on this channel but if you're a newcomer here what's your message to them my last pitch to you would be I'll tell with millennials I'll tell it to the Gen Zers we're in the in game now I've seen 14 million different scenarios one of them we win and the one we win is by electing like actual progressives and people who are democratic socialists and people who don't take corporate money to congress every other scenario every single one results in a failed America results in the rich getting richer black people getting treated like crap immigrants women LGBTQ everybody getting treated like crap if you're not a rich white man there is one scenario in which we win and that's by putting people in office and actually giving them about you and me because they are you and me so that would be my pitch my pitch would be listen you're broke I'm broke everybody's broke if you're not rich you're broke there's no middle class in America anymore are you the rich or you're broke I get that if you can donate $27, $50, $100 by all means I would love for you to do that because every single dollar is a door knocker we can hang on somebody's door a T-shirt we can print up for a volunteer it's the staff we can turn from volunteers into paid staff you know what I mean because we want to pay people for their work so those dollars actually matter and they actually count and they actually do a lot for our grassroots campaign and if you can't follow me on social media and share whatever the hell I say blast it out if you agree with it blast it out to your circle your circle because six degrees of separation you'll never believe who sees that I'm telling you right now I've said some stuff on Twitter and I've had people hit me up I'm like how the hell is this person who's a famous actress or actor see this because somebody somewhere shared it and they got to them and we made that connection and that's what it's about it's about making the connections because I promise you your problems aren't just your problems the things you're going through it may feel like it's just yours and we only win by becoming the collective just think about it I always said this to you I think it was two years ago Mike a single snowflake it falls and it hits the ground and it melts has absolutely no effect if enough snowflakes get together when they fall they can create a mighty avalanche they can wipe away anything in a goddamn path so that's what the collectivism is just think of it like that so that's my pitch you can follow me on Twitter, Facebook, Instagram and then you go to Isaiahforconference.com if you want to sign up to volunteer get our newsletter buy some merchandise which is coming soon shirts and totes and stuff the counts of the donation and read my platform that's it All right well Isaiah James it's always a pleasure I'm sure that you'll be back at some point in time before the primary good luck we'll be following your campaign Thank you so much for having me same same all right you take care well that's all that I have for you today thank you so much for watching if you've made it this far in the program thank you so much to the people who tuned in and made it this far in the show I really appreciate your patronage and your viewership it means so much to me and a special thank you to all of our Patreon, PayPal and YouTube subscribers who help us not just to survive but thrive as well I can never thank you all enough so that's all that I've got for you and I'll see you all next week my name is Mike Figueroa this has been the Humanist Report take care everyone