 Well indeed we are facing a major famine in the northeastern part of Africa currently so these issues are right at the top of our daily existence. Here at the climate change conference I think that what we've been able to emphasize is the the gaining role of evergreen agriculture as a means of actually tackling these problems and in our learning event here at the agriculture and rural development day we just had the opportunity to analyze the impact of evergreen agriculture over millions of hectares of land in countries throughout western eastern and southern Africa and get feedback about how we can actually improve the effectiveness of campaigns to scale up evergreen agriculture in many other countries. Basically it is all about developing ways in which trees are integrated into the crop lands of Africa and with the amazing species of trees that exist here that are so compatible with crops we are able to see enormous dramatic increases in crop yields, fodder production and the production of fuel, wood and timber for households all over the continent and so we've been trying to really bring this to the fore because so many policymakers are totally unaware of the potential role of trees in adapting to climate change. The role of agroforestry is being recognized as a tremendous fundamental part of what we see as the solutions for both adaptation and mitigation in Africa and we've been very happy to see how the international organizations as well as governments are gearing up to support these efforts and we're working in countries with governments all over the continent to actually take advantage of the many years of research that have developed solutions that farmers not only can use but are using on millions of hectares of land and it's our vision that we could reach now the most poor and desperately hungry people who are the rural farmers that cannot actually grow enough food for the entire year. Well red has been limited in its discussions mainly to the conservation of forests and the reiforestation of plantation forests but indeed this is only a part of the solution and agriculture is the cause of deforestation predominantly throughout the tropics and what we find is that unless farmers have the trees that are producing the products and services that they need on their farms in their communities they're going to have to have access to those products and services in the forest whether it's timber or other forest products and so indeed agro forestry which is the growing of trees on farms for the benefit of farm households is a major way of deflecting deforestation if you can employ these techniques in communities they don't need to use the forest resources to the extent that they would have had to and they can cooperate and collaborate with governments to actually protect those resources.